On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:18:59 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-08-31 6:40 AM, wrote:
>
>>>> I have relatives that live in Saskatchewan, they come here though.
>>>
>>> I know Australians who are about to go to Saskatchewan for a holiday.
>>> When they've told Canadians friends, the Canadians didn't understand
>>> what on earth there is to see in Saskatchewan.
>>
>> They'll be surprised. I love how the lands rolls on forever and they
>> have some of the loveliest skies. I wonder if those Canadians had
>> ever been there. I've been three times in traversing the country by
>> car and each time loved that aspect of Saskatchewan.
>
>I have not been Saskatchewan but I have several friends there.
>Correction... are from there. They left. It is a big area and the
>scenery is diverse. Most people find the prairies boring, especially
>the really flat part. There is an old joke about a guy ins Saskatchewan
>watching his dog run away for three days.
>
It's a myth!!! The prairies are not flat, they are undulating and
when the wheat is grown a slight breeze makes it reminiscent of an
ocean. That topped with a never ending sky, with little puff ball
clouds plus the unusual lack of trees, makes for very different
scenery.

> wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:18:59 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2018-08-31 6:40 AM, wrote:
>>
>>>>> I have relatives that live in Saskatchewan, they come here though.
>>>>
>>>> I know Australians who are about to go to Saskatchewan for a holiday.
>>>> When they've told Canadians friends, the Canadians didn't understand
>>>> what on earth there is to see in Saskatchewan.
>>>
>>> They'll be surprised. I love how the lands rolls on forever and they
>>> have some of the loveliest skies. I wonder if those Canadians had
>>> ever been there. I've been three times in traversing the country by
>>> car and each time loved that aspect of Saskatchewan.
>>
>>I have not been Saskatchewan but I have several friends there.
>>Correction... are from there. They left. It is a big area and the
>>scenery is diverse. Most people find the prairies boring, especially
>>the really flat part. There is an old joke about a guy ins Saskatchewan
>>watching his dog run away for three days.
>>
> It's a myth!!! The prairies are not flat, they are undulating and
> when the wheat is grown a slight breeze makes it reminiscent of an
> ocean. That topped with a never ending sky, with little puff ball
> clouds plus the unusual lack of trees, makes for very different
> scenery.


My relatives love it there.

Cheri

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:28:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Very probably, but I enjoy driving in my old Pajero. I am not being mean,
> not buying something flash, I am just not interested. As you know I've had
> some flash new cars in my life but now I just love what I have and don't
> need to be flash)
>
> I think your daughter and I have something in common) That Jeep SJ does
> not look unlike my Pajero)

I made a mistake. The Jeep Cherokee is called the "XJ" not the "SJ." You're right about the resemblance between the XJ and the second generation Pajero. The proportions and the fender flares being major design elements are quite similar. They both have that skinny rear door with the skinny roll down window.

Getting into that rear seat through that skinny door is similar to mounting a horse - you have to have a plan on how to do it in order to accomplish it gracefully or even successfully. It was shocking to see that it had a straight 6 engine as well as a solid front axle. The most shocking was a rear tire mounted inside the vehicle against the driver's side window. That's just plain goofy! OTOH, if you want to get a totally non-shocking, boring, vehicle you can always get a Toyota Camry.

31 Aug 2018 Druce wrote:
>Cheri wrote:
>>Druce wrote:
>>>tsjoannotjoann wrote:
>
>>> Dave's Canadian by the way. I know virtually nothing about Canada.
>>
>>I have relatives that live in Saskatchewan, they come here though.
>
>I know Australians who are about to go to Saskatchewan for a holiday.
>When they've told Canadians friends, the Canadians didn't understand
>what on earth there is to see in Saskatchewan.

I've been to Saskatchewan I think five times in my various drives
across Canada... there's plenty of very intersting sights to see
there. Don't forget to visit Regina, and be sure to pronounce it
correctly or you'll be corrected as I was, like Vagina, not Regena.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatchewan

On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 20:35:27 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>
>I am sure there are some First Nation sites to enjoy, if one is interested in that kind of thing...
>are there?
>
>I want to take the Amtrak trip across southern Canada but haven't managed it yet. I am sure
>there is some beautiful scenery, and I absolutely LOVE trains. ;-))

You'll see a whole lot more driving... the train doesn't take the most
scenic route, doesn't stop at interesting places, and a good part of
the train ride will be in absolute darkness. I've driven accross
Canada a few times from coast to coast, each time a different route...
a very long drive, one way is like crossing the US twice. Everyone
must see the Canadian Rockies... and hike around Lake Luise. takes
about four hours:
https://search.aol.com/aol/image;_yl...t=loki-keyword

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 15:32:57 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 20:35:27 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I am sure there are some First Nation sites to enjoy, if one is interested in that kind of thing...
>>are there?
>
>Saskatchewan sure sounds First Nationish.
>
>>I want to take the Amtrak trip across southern Canada but haven't managed it yet. I am sure
>>there is some beautiful scenery, and I absolutely LOVE trains. ;-))
>
>Me too. Best form of travel

Not for seeing the sights, half the trip is in total darkness. If you
don't feel up to driving Grayhound is better. Driving you can plan
what to see and where to stop. Driving only during daylight and
stopping here and there took me a week, NY to Banff... of course if
you really want to see the sights figure two weeks. I hear it's a lot
more crowded now than when I went in the '60s... I had the western
National Parks pretty much to myself. I drove through Yellowstone
west to east on Christmas day, had just started to snow and was about
an inch on the ground, I made the first tracks... gorgeous in winter
with the geothermals steaming... drove my Triumph, just me and my cat
Marbles.

"dsi1" wrote in message
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On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 3:28:12 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>
> Very probably, but I enjoy driving in my old Pajero. I am not being mean,
> not buying something flash, I am just not interested. As you know I've
> had
> some flash new cars in my life but now I just love what I have and don't
> need to be flash)
>
> I think your daughter and I have something in common) That Jeep SJ does
> not look unlike my Pajero)

I made a mistake. The Jeep Cherokee is called the "XJ" not the "SJ." You're
right about the resemblance between the XJ and the second generation Pajero.
The proportions and the fender flares being major design elements are quite
similar. They both have that skinny rear door with the skinny roll down
window.

Getting into that rear seat through that skinny door is similar to mounting
a horse - you have to have a plan on how to do it in order to accomplish it
gracefully or even successfully. It was shocking to see that it had a
straight 6 engine as well as a solid front axle. The most shocking was a
rear tire mounted inside the vehicle against the driver's side window.
That's just plain goofy! OTOH, if you want to get a totally non-shocking,
boring, vehicle you can always get a Toyota Camry.

==

Hmm I think I will stick with my old motor and I will leave that Toyota
Camry for you <g>

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 02:01:19 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 9:55:58 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> Our cars are old by choice. I don't want to have to deal with all those
>> 'nutty symbols' <g>
>
>My daughter has an old Jeep SJ. It is some pretty old school stuff. She enjoys driving that old thing. I think that's admirable. She also enjoyed our old Dodge pickup. I enjoyed driving that Dodge too. It made me feel special. Old cars are cool but in the near future we'll all be moving around in self-driving electric go-go mobiles.

I think that will be a long time yet and only in densely populated
areas. We still don't have city water/sewers and may never. There
are no fire hydrants either. Here its a long distance beween homes,
would cost a fortune to install all that infrastructure for a handful
of homes each mile. Most of the roads here are windy twisty up and
down hills, and how will self driving cars avoid deer, and black ice?
I don't think self driving cars can be insurable, can't make the
owners liable, they are passengers.

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 1:54:46 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I've driven across
> Canada a few times from coast to coast, each time a different route...
> a very long drive, one way is like crossing the US twice.
>
>
????????????????

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 03:32:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 4:50:14 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>> On 8/30/2018 4:21 PM, wrote:
>> > On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That's why I love the long hoses at Costco, it doesn't matter
>> >> which side I pull in.
>> >>
>> >> I also love sitting listening to the radio in the cool or warm
>> >> air while someone else worries about my gas cap situation, but
>> >> that's another topic.
>>
>> > I honestly don't know if the hose would have reached to the far side
>> > of the vehicle or not. My first inclination was to move to another
>> > pump with the gas door within easy reach of the hose.
>>
>> I understand older gas stations but when they are renovated, why
>> not get the long hoses so people don't have to jockey around to
>> one side or another?
>
>Safety. It makes it less likely that they'll be run over, and less
>likely that someone will drive off with the nozzle still in the
>filler tube.
>
>I can't figure out why manufacturers put the filler anywhere but
>the driver's side.
>
>> > (Sigh) Everywhere I get gas I have to pump my own.
>>
>> I imagine it's a matter of time until we have to pump our own
>> as well. It comes up every couple of years.
>
>I've been pumping my own gas since the 1970s. Yes, it's a drag
>doing it in the winter.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I prefer pumping my own gas. I don't want some moron over filling with
gas running down the side of my car, ruins the finish and having to
smell gas in the car for a month before it disapates. I don't want
anyone putting air in my tires either, they under/over fill and don't
replace the cap.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 13:08:40 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:18:59 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2018-08-31 6:40 AM, wrote:
>>
>>>>> I have relatives that live in Saskatchewan, they come here though.
>>>>
>>>> I know Australians who are about to go to Saskatchewan for a holiday.
>>>> When they've told Canadians friends, the Canadians didn't understand
>>>> what on earth there is to see in Saskatchewan.
>>>
>>> They'll be surprised. I love how the lands rolls on forever and they
>>> have some of the loveliest skies. I wonder if those Canadians had
>>> ever been there. I've been three times in traversing the country by
>>> car and each time loved that aspect of Saskatchewan.
>>
>>I have not been Saskatchewan but I have several friends there.
>>Correction... are from there. They left. It is a big area and the
>>scenery is diverse. Most people find the prairies boring, especially
>>the really flat part. There is an old joke about a guy ins Saskatchewan
>>watching his dog run away for three days.
>>
>It's a myth!!! The prairies are not flat, they are undulating and
>when the wheat is grown a slight breeze makes it reminiscent of an
>ocean. That topped with a never ending sky, with little puff ball
>clouds plus the unusual lack of trees, makes for very different
>scenery.

Actually the prairies are quite flat, you can see the curvature of the
earth same as at sea.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:20:57 -0400, wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 03:32:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 4:50:14 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 8/30/2018 4:21 PM, wrote:
>>> > On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> That's why I love the long hoses at Costco, it doesn't matter
>>> >> which side I pull in.
>>> >>
>>> >> I also love sitting listening to the radio in the cool or warm
>>> >> air while someone else worries about my gas cap situation, but
>>> >> that's another topic.
>>>
>>> > I honestly don't know if the hose would have reached to the far side
>>> > of the vehicle or not. My first inclination was to move to another
>>> > pump with the gas door within easy reach of the hose.
>>>
>>> I understand older gas stations but when they are renovated, why
>>> not get the long hoses so people don't have to jockey around to
>>> one side or another?
>>
>>Safety. It makes it less likely that they'll be run over, and less
>>likely that someone will drive off with the nozzle still in the
>>filler tube.
>>
>>I can't figure out why manufacturers put the filler anywhere but
>>the driver's side.
>>
>>> > (Sigh) Everywhere I get gas I have to pump my own.
>>>
>>> I imagine it's a matter of time until we have to pump our own
>>> as well. It comes up every couple of years.
>>
>>I've been pumping my own gas since the 1970s. Yes, it's a drag
>>doing it in the winter.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>I prefer pumping my own gas. I don't want some moron over filling with
>gas running down the side of my car, ruins the finish

Cars have a finish?

>and having to
>smell gas in the car for a month before it disapates.

Just go to a gas station where the staff aren't drunk.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 06:34:23 +1000, Druce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 16:20:57 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 03:32:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 4:50:14 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> On 8/30/2018 4:21 PM, wrote:
>>>> > On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That's why I love the long hoses at Costco, it doesn't matter
>>>> >> which side I pull in.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I also love sitting listening to the radio in the cool or warm
>>>> >> air while someone else worries about my gas cap situation, but
>>>> >> that's another topic.
>>>>
>>>> > I honestly don't know if the hose would have reached to the far side
>>>> > of the vehicle or not. My first inclination was to move to another
>>>> > pump with the gas door within easy reach of the hose.
>>>>
>>>> I understand older gas stations but when they are renovated, why
>>>> not get the long hoses so people don't have to jockey around to
>>>> one side or another?
>>>
>>>Safety. It makes it less likely that they'll be run over, and less
>>>likely that someone will drive off with the nozzle still in the
>>>filler tube.
>>>
>>>I can't figure out why manufacturers put the filler anywhere but
>>>the driver's side.
>>>
>>>> > (Sigh) Everywhere I get gas I have to pump my own.
>>>>
>>>> I imagine it's a matter of time until we have to pump our own
>>>> as well. It comes up every couple of years.
>>>
>>>I've been pumping my own gas since the 1970s. Yes, it's a drag
>>>doing it in the winter.
>>>
>>>Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>I prefer pumping my own gas. I don't want some moron over filling with
>>gas running down the side of my car, ruins the finish
>
>Cars have a finish?

Petrol dulls the paint.

>>and having to
>>smell gas in the car for a month before it disapates.
>
>Just go to a gas station where the staff aren't drunk.

Don't need to be drunk to be lazy... even the valve caps they put back
are not tightened and will eventually fall off.

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 10:09:08 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I think that will be a long time yet and only in densely populated
> areas. We still don't have city water/sewers and may never. There
> are no fire hydrants either. Here its a long distance beween homes,
> would cost a fortune to install all that infrastructure for a handful
> of homes each mile. Most of the roads here are windy twisty up and
> down hills, and how will self driving cars avoid deer, and black ice?
> I don't think self driving cars can be insurable, can't make the
> owners liable, they are passengers.

There were motorcars long before paved roads and highways. That didn't stop the future. This is just the natural evolution of automobiles. Technically, I don't think it's that big of a deal. OTOH, society will be changed enormously by the new age of the automobile.

Insurance for self-driving cars will be not necessary nor desirable. It would also be a mistake to think that humans are very competent at driving on twisty roads and avoiding deer and black ice. The motor car is likely the worst consumer product ever invented as far as safety goes. It kills hundreds of humans every day. People are in a panic about exploding blender blades but how many people have been killed by a blender? Mostly, we're irrational.

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 10:06:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Hmm I think I will stick with my old motor and I will leave that Toyota
> Camry for you <g>

I have owned a Camry - it's the official car of old folks!

As far as the Jeep goes, I really like that straight six engine. Straight six engines sound just awesome. They remind me of sewing machine motors. Unfortunately, they're pretty much an anachronism in the modern world.

On 2018-08-31 12:08 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:18:59 -0400, Dave Smith

>> I have not been Saskatchewan but I have several friends there.
>> Correction... are from there. They left. It is a big area and the
>> scenery is diverse. Most people find the prairies boring, especially
>> the really flat part. There is an old joke about a guy ins Saskatchewan
>> watching his dog run away for three days.
>>
> It's a myth!!! The prairies are not flat, they are undulating and
> when the wheat is grown a slight breeze makes it reminiscent of an
> ocean. That topped with a never ending sky, with little puff ball
> clouds plus the unusual lack of trees, makes for very different
> scenery.
It is not a myth that a great deal of southern Saskatchewan is flat. The
whole province is not flat, but the most of the south is. Take a
virtual tour on google maps.

On 8/28/2018 11:13 PM, wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 8:56:19 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 20:51:16 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> My house is 90+ years old and everything is all on one floor and am I ever
>>> thankful! I do have that daylight basement and it has been a full year
>>> since I've been down there. Hopefully, it will be another year before I
>>> have to venture down there.
>>
>> That's because you pay techs to monitor your utilities... because like
>> most you haven't a clue haw to maintain your utilities/.
>>
> What ARE you blathering about? What utilities am I paying these mythical
> techs to maintain? What gas cap are you raving about? My car has no gas
> cap.
>
> Have you been in Kuthe's Prozac?
>
I don't know about the gas cap thing (my admittedly old car has one,
doesn't bother me a bit) but paying *techs* to monitor utilities?! What
techs?! Is he perhaps talking about oh, the employees of the utility
companies?

Sounds like he's still irritated because not everyone has, can have or
wants to have, a basement. As for drugs... I think one might need some
to follow this logic.

Jill

On 8/30/2018 11:23 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 07:23:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 11:19:53 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:13:15 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> My car has no gas
>>>> cap.
>>>
>>> Then you have no car, every car ever produced has a gas cap.
>>>
>>>
>> Nope, no gas cap at all. It does have the door to access the gas tank
>> but no cap on that tank just a membrane that the gas nozzle pushes out
>> of the way when filling.
>>
>> It probably wouldn't hurt you to do a bit of research before you make
>> unfounded statements. Or better yet, go take a look at the new models
>> to see what they offer. It might broaden your horizons instead of your
>> butt by sitting on a tractor day after day.
>>
>> https://s22.postimg.cc/au6nm21fl/2017_Gas_Cap.jpg
>
> Oh come now, you KNOW Sheldum can't be wrong
>
The gas cap was a ruse to throw the thread off track.

Some folks don't want to go up and down stairs, don't want a basement.
Sheldon's response to having everything on one floor was, "That's
because you pay techs to monitor your utilities." WTH does that mean?

Jill

On 8/30/2018 2:23 PM, wrote:
> I remember when cars had the gas cap behind the back license plate. Do any
> car makers put it there now? The only complaint I ever heard about that
> location was getting a gas can to empty completely if you used one if you
> ran out of gas.

I don't know about filling a tank with a gas can on one of those things.
Never had to do that <whew!> But the license plate was on springs.
It tended to get in the way when you were trying to pump gas. Could get
downright hornery, if the springs were too tight. LOL

Jill

On 8/30/2018 3:40 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 2:03:29 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-08-30 2:23 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> I remember when cars had the gas cap behind the back license plate. Do any
>>> car makers put it there now? The only complaint I ever heard about that
>>> location was getting a gas can to empty completely if you used one if you
>>> ran out of gas.
>>
>>
>> At least you knew where to put the gas when you pulled up to a pump.
>> When I was working we were constantly changing vehicles and I often had
>> trouble remembering if the gas cap was on the left or the right.
>>
> A few weeks ago I had a rental and agreed to return with as much gas as when
> it was given to me. I go to fill the tank and pull up to the pump thinking
> the tank is on the left side like my car. Running around searching for the
> gas door I found it on the right side of the vehicle. That prompted a U-turn
> in the lot to another pump.
>
Rentals can be interesting. I had a rental car a number of years ago
after someone hit my car, an unwittnessed accident in a Walgreen's
parking lot. The car went to the body shop.

Thing is, I've driven a standard shift most of my adult life. The
rental car (they picked me up!) was an automatic. Full power steering &
brakes. It takes me a few miles to get used to driving an automatic
again. The extra sensitivity in the steering and the brakes.

I automatically reach (without thinking) for the shift or feel for the
clutch. It's like muscle memory. You have to retrain your brain
slightly when you change from years of a standard to an automatic. IMHO.

Oh, and it's a good idea to listen when they tell you where the
windshield wipers and the headlights are. It started to rain when I was
driving the rental home. LOL

I really couldn't wait to get my car out of the bodyshop. They did a
great job and I was more than happy to turn that rental car in. Ah yes,
I can drive my car home.

Jill

On 8/30/2018 4:50 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 8/30/2018 4:21 PM, wrote:
>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>> That's why I love the long hoses at Costco, it doesn't matter
>>> which side I pull in.
>>>
>>> I also love sitting listening to the radio in the cool or warm
>>> air while someone else worries about my gas cap situation, but
>>> that's another topic.
>
>> I honestly don't know if the hose would have reached to the far side
>> of the vehicle or not.Â* My first inclination was to move to another
>> pump with the gas door within easy reach of the hose.
>
> I understand older gas stations but when they are renovated, why
> not get the long hoses so people don't have to jockey around to
> one side or another?
>
>> (Sigh)Â* Everywhere I get gas I have to pump my own.
>
> I imagine it's a matter of time until we have to pump our own
> as well.Â* It comes up every couple of years.
>
> nancy
>
I still find it weird that it is not permitted in some states to pump
your own gas. Not a criticism, just different.

Jill

On 8/31/2018 5:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 10:06:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>>
>> Hmm I think I will stick with my old motor and I will leave that Toyota
>> Camry for you <g>
>
> I have owned a Camry - it's the official car of old folks!
>
> As far as the Jeep goes, I really like that straight six engine. Straight six engines sound just awesome. They remind me of sewing machine motors. Unfortunately, they're pretty much an anachronism in the modern world.
>

Easy to work on too. You could change six spark plugs in six minutes.
Before I put plugs in my car I would trade it in. I have no idea where
they are or how to get to them.

On 8/31/2018 7:02 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>>
>>> (Sigh)Â* Everywhere I get gas I have to pump my own.
>>
>> I imagine it's a matter of time until we have to pump our own
>> as well.Â* It comes up every couple of years.
>>
>> nancy
>>
> I still find it weird that it is not permitted in some states to pump
> your own gas.Â* Not a criticism, just different.
>
> Jill

Some claim it is a safety issue to have untrained people handling a high
skilled job and equipment. It is also a jobs issue. Plenty of kids
made spending money, as well as some older folks. One station I go to
has an old guy four hours a day

wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 03:32:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 4:50:14 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:
>>> On 8/30/2018 4:21 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, August 30, 2018 at 3:11:12 PM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why I love the long hoses at Costco, it doesn't matter
>>>>> which side I pull in.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also love sitting listening to the radio in the cool or warm
>>>>> air while someone else worries about my gas cap situation, but
>>>>> that's another topic.
>>>
>>>> I honestly don't know if the hose would have reached to the far side
>>>> of the vehicle or not. My first inclination was to move to another
>>>> pump with the gas door within easy reach of the hose.
>>>
>>> I understand older gas stations but when they are renovated, why
>>> not get the long hoses so people don't have to jockey around to
>>> one side or another?
>>
>> Safety. It makes it less likely that they'll be run over, and less
>> likely that someone will drive off with the nozzle still in the
>> filler tube.
>>
>> I can't figure out why manufacturers put the filler anywhere but
>> the driver's side.
>>
>>>> (Sigh) Everywhere I get gas I have to pump my own.
>>>
>>> I imagine it's a matter of time until we have to pump our own
>>> as well. It comes up every couple of years.
>>
>> I've been pumping my own gas since the 1970s. Yes, it's a drag
>> doing it in the winter.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I prefer pumping my own gas. I don't want some moron over filling with
> gas running down the side of my car, ruins the finish and having to
> smell gas in the car for a month before it disapates. I don't want
> anyone putting air in my tires either, they under/over fill and don't
> replace the cap.
>

Yep, they see yoose coming Popeye! They also **** in yoose glovebox and
take a dump in yoose trunk.

After the first encounter with yoose sorry ass, they stays awake at
night thinking about what to do the next time yoose comes.

We had one station that had one full-service pump, but it has been gone for probably a decade now.
We all around here have pumped our own gas for decades now...and checked our own oil, and washed our own
windshields. It is the norm.

N.

In article >,
> wrote:

> Don't need to be drunk to be lazy... even the valve caps they put back
> are not tightened and will eventually fall off.

When I was sixteen, I drove my girlfriend to pick asparagus along some
irrigation ditches. The picking spot was thirty five miles away. I
stopped into the full service gas station and needed a quart of oil.
After servicing, we proceeded to picked asparagus, and on the way home,
the engine seized.
The full service guy had forgotten to put the oil cap back on, and the
oil had blown out inside the hood. Dad kind of blamed me for that. It
is one of the few things he blamed me for that I didn't do.

[OBFood] leftover Papa Murphy's combo pizza and a simple salad.

leo

"Leonard Blaisdell" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> > wrote:
>
>> Don't need to be drunk to be lazy... even the valve caps they put back
>> are not tightened and will eventually fall off.
>
> When I was sixteen, I drove my girlfriend to pick asparagus along some
> irrigation ditches. The picking spot was thirty five miles away. I
> stopped into the full service gas station and needed a quart of oil.
> After servicing, we proceeded to picked asparagus, and on the way home,
> the engine seized.
> The full service guy had forgotten to put the oil cap back on, and the
> oil had blown out inside the hood. Dad kind of blamed me for that. It
> is one of the few things he blamed me for that I didn't do.
>
> [OBFood] leftover Papa Murphy's combo pizza and a simple salad.
>
> leo


I really like Papa Murphy's combo, sounds good.

Cheri

In article >, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> Easy to work on too. You could change six spark plugs in six minutes.
> Before I put plugs in my car I would trade it in. I have no idea where
> they are or how to get to them.

Subaru?

leo

On 9/1/2018 1:17 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Easy to work on too. You could change six spark plugs in six minutes.
>> Before I put plugs in my car I would trade it in. I have no idea where
>> they are or how to get to them.
>
> Subaru?

Not that I've looked under a lot of hoods but for the past
however many years, it's clear you're not meant to work on
your own car. There was a time I could have done a few things
like change the spark plugs. I'm not complaining, spark plugs
last 100G miles now and I do not need to look at the engine
and sure don't care to mess with anything, the computers least
of all.

nancy

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 10:06:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> ==
>
> Hmm I think I will stick with my old motor and I will leave that Toyota
> Camry for you <g>

I have owned a Camry - it's the official car of old folks!

As far as the Jeep goes, I really like that straight six engine. Straight
six engines sound just awesome. They remind me of sewing machine motors.
Unfortunately, they're pretty much an anachronism in the modern world.

==

Is my Pajero different?

"Nancy Young" wrote in message ...

On 9/1/2018 1:17 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Easy to work on too. You could change six spark plugs in six minutes.
>> Before I put plugs in my car I would trade it in. I have no idea where
>> they are or how to get to them.
>
> Subaru?

Not that I've looked under a lot of hoods but for the past
however many years, it's clear you're not meant to work on
your own car. There was a time I could have done a few things
like change the spark plugs. I'm not complaining, spark plugs
last 100G miles now and I do not need to look at the engine
and sure don't care to mess with anything, the computers least
of all.

nancy

==

That is what puts me off modern cars. There is too much to go wrong!

"Nancy2" wrote in message
...

We had one station that had one full-service pump, but it has been gone for
probably a decade now.
We all around here have pumped our own gas for decades now...and checked our
own oil, and washed our own
windshields. It is the norm.

N.

==

Sounds normal to me)

On 9/1/2018 1:17 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> Easy to work on too. You could change six spark plugs in six minutes.
>> Before I put plugs in my car I would trade it in. I have no idea where
>> they are or how to get to them.
>
> Subaru?
>
> leo
>

Genesis G80. But true of many cars today with all the shrouds and tight
fit.

On 8/28/2018 10:18 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:00:27 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/27/2018 8:55 PM, wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 10:48:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/26/2018 7:38 PM, wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:19:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/26/2018 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually it's very easy to build a house with a basement in areas with
>>>>>>> high water tables and/or very rocky areas... same way they do in many
>>>>>>> large citys, they make a higher foundation with perhaps 4-5 steps to
>>>>>>> the front door. They dig down to a certain depth and perhaps the
>>>>>>> basement is half above ground.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But one reason we are moving is to avoid steps.
>>>>>
>>>>> We live in a ranch, no steps, and rarely have a need to go in the
>>>>> basement
>>>>
>>>> Then why all the fuss about having one?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Many houses have attics that are rarely accessed but add greatly to
>>> living comfort. Our basement is not finished for entertaining guests,
>>> we go down to the basement perhaps four times a day, mostly to clean
>>> the cat's litter pan twice a day, also to store and retrieve
>>> groceries. There's a 2nd fridge and a high capacity washing machine
>>> in the basement, and clotheslines. Our utilities are in the basement,
>>> makes for easy access to plumbing, etc. A basement offers a lot
>>> of storage space for bulky items. A basement makes it easy to
>>> hardwire computers/TVs. But mostly living directly on a cement slab
>>> in direct contact with the ground is not healthful.... it's like
>>> living in a camping tent.
>>>
>> Nothing you wrote makes me want to live in a house with a basement. Nor
>> does it explain why all houses should have one. I don't want a walk in
>> attic, either.
>>
>> Jill
>
> You never purchased a house, you inherited one, you know nothing about
> houses, absolutely NOTHING!

Just because I never bought a house doesn't mean I haven't *lived* in a
bunch of them. The only houses we lived in (there were a lot of them)
when I was growing up that had basements were in Virginia. One in
Woodbridge, the other in Annandale. The houses I rented as an adult in
Memphis didn't have basements, either.

I'd much rather live in an apartment. Everything is covered by the
rent: property taxes, appliance repair/replacement. The apartment
before I moved here was great. 1100 sq. ft., 2 br/2 ba. with a 22 sq.
foot fenced patio. When the HVAC unit broke, they replaced it. Ditto
the water heater. They even changed the smoke alarm batteries twice a year.

> And I know that for a fact from all the
> SOS emails you sent me half a dozen times a day that you will forever
> deny. You are a FAKE!!!
>
What the hell is an SOS email? SOS implies needing rescue... WTF?

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/28/2018 10:18 PM, wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 22:00:27 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/27/2018 8:55 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 10:48:03 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/26/2018 7:38 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 13:19:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/26/2018 12:00 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually it's very easy to build a house with a basement in areas
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> high water tables and/or very rocky areas... same way they do in
>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>> large citys, they make a higher foundation with perhaps 4-5 steps
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the front door. They dig down to a certain depth and perhaps the
>>>>>>>> basement is half above ground.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But one reason we are moving is to avoid steps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We live in a ranch, no steps, and rarely have a need to go in the
>>>>>> basement
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why all the fuss about having one?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> Many houses have attics that are rarely accessed but add greatly to
>>>> living comfort. Our basement is not finished for entertaining guests,
>>>> we go down to the basement perhaps four times a day, mostly to clean
>>>> the cat's litter pan twice a day, also to store and retrieve
>>>> groceries. There's a 2nd fridge and a high capacity washing machine
>>>> in the basement, and clotheslines. Our utilities are in the basement,
>>>> makes for easy access to plumbing, etc. A basement offers a lot
>>>> of storage space for bulky items. A basement makes it easy to
>>>> hardwire computers/TVs. But mostly living directly on a cement slab
>>>> in direct contact with the ground is not healthful.... it's like
>>>> living in a camping tent.
>>>>
>>> Nothing you wrote makes me want to live in a house with a basement. Nor
>>> does it explain why all houses should have one. I don't want a walk in
>>> attic, either.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> You never purchased a house, you inherited one, you know nothing about
>> houses, absolutely NOTHING!
>
> Just because I never bought a house doesn't mean I haven't *lived* in a
> bunch of them. The only houses we lived in (there were a lot of them)
> when I was growing up that had basements were in Virginia. One in
> Woodbridge, the other in Annandale. The houses I rented as an adult in
> Memphis didn't have basements, either.
>
> I'd much rather live in an apartment. Everything is covered by the rent:
> property taxes, appliance repair/replacement. The apartment before I
> moved here was great. 1100 sq. ft., 2 br/2 ba. with a 22 sq. foot fenced
> patio. When the HVAC unit broke, they replaced it. Ditto the water
> heater. They even changed the smoke alarm batteries twice a year.
>
>> And I know that for a fact from all the
>> SOS emails you sent me half a dozen times a day that you will forever
>> deny. You are a FAKE!!!
>>
> What the hell is an SOS email? SOS implies needing rescue... WTF?
>
> Jill


It means (to him) that you were asking for help/questions with different
things about your home ownership, at least that's the way I take it.

Cheri

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 14:12:50 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, August 31, 2018 at 10:06:23 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> ==
>>
>> Hmm I think I will stick with my old motor and I will leave that Toyota
>> Camry for you <g>
>
>I have owned a Camry - it's the official car of old folks!
>
>As far as the Jeep goes, I really like that straight six engine. Straight six engines sound just awesome. They remind me of sewing machine motors. Unfortunately, they're pretty much an anachronism in the modern world.


My 1990 Landcruiser has a straight six, runs great, never had a
problem.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 17:27:38 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-08-31 12:08 PM, wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 10:18:59 -0400, Dave Smith
>
>>> I have not been Saskatchewan but I have several friends there.
>>> Correction... are from there. They left. It is a big area and the
>>> scenery is diverse. Most people find the prairies boring, especially
>>> the really flat part. There is an old joke about a guy ins Saskatchewan
>>> watching his dog run away for three days.
>>>
>> It's a myth!!! The prairies are not flat, they are undulating and
>> when the wheat is grown a slight breeze makes it reminiscent of an
>> ocean. That topped with a never ending sky, with little puff ball
>> clouds plus the unusual lack of trees, makes for very different
>> scenery.
>It is not a myth that a great deal of southern Saskatchewan is flat. The
>whole province is not flat, but the most of the south is. Take a
>virtual tour on google maps.

I've driven across a few times, most is flat as a billiard table...
you can drive an entire day and not come to the end of that table.
There are huge tall graineries (painted green) every 17 kilometers,
can see the one you just passed in your rear view mirror sinking into
the curvature of the earth just as the one ahead begins to rise...
just as ships do on the ocean.

On Saturday, September 1, 2018 at 6:42:20 AM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
>
> Not that I've looked under a lot of hoods but for the past
> however many years, it's clear you're not meant to work on
> your own car. There was a time I could have done a few things
> like change the spark plugs. I'm not complaining, spark plugs
> last 100G miles now and I do not need to look at the engine
> and sure don't care to mess with anything, the computers least
> of all.
>
> Nancy
>
The only thing under that hood that I mess with is adding windshield
washer fluid.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 20:15:05 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote:

>We had one station that had one full-service pump, but it has been gone for probably a decade now.
>We all around here have pumped our own gas for decades now...and checked our own oil, and washed our own
>windshields. It is the norm.
>
>N.

I remember when some stations still pumped gas by hand by turning a
crank. And now I do the same with my diesel tank. Back then motor
oil was hand pumped into quart glass bottles that had a metal spout.
They didn't have canned oil yet and certainly no plastic bottles.. The
gas stations filled the quart bottles with a hand crank pump on a 55
gallon drum.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 22:10:18 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >,
> wrote:
>
>> Don't need to be drunk to be lazy... even the valve caps they put back
>> are not tightened and will eventually fall off.
>
>When I was sixteen, I drove my girlfriend to pick asparagus along some
>irrigation ditches. The picking spot was thirty five miles away. I
>stopped into the full service gas station and needed a quart of oil.
>After servicing, we proceeded to picked asparagus, and on the way home,
>the engine seized.
>The full service guy had forgotten to put the oil cap back on, and the
>oil had blown out inside the hood. Dad kind of blamed me for that. It
>is one of the few things he blamed me for that I didn't do.

Your dad likely suffered the same problem. Everytime I bring my
vehical in for an oil change before I leave I lift the hood and check
the oil that's it's fresh oil and properly filled. Some two years ago
I needed a new battery installed. Before leaving I raised the hood to
look at the new battery and there were the mechanic's tools sitting on
the air cleaner cover,

I hope next you have any work done on your vehicle, especially
involving oil, that before leaving you raise the hood and do some
inspection. Once you drive off it'll be very hard to blame the
service station.

>[OBFood] leftover Papa Murphy's combo pizza and a simple salad.
>
>leo