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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:49:26 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"Druce" > wrote in message >news ![]() >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:33:34 -0700, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> >>>"Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >>>news ![]() >>>> I was pretty poor growing up, and we usually bought sliced loaf bread at >>>> the "day old" store of a local bakery (sunbeam or colonial brands), and >>>> kept it in the fridge. It was very cheap compared to the same branded >>>> bread at the grocery stores, and often no more than a day or two older. >>>> >>>> They had those damn junk cakes too, and they *never* go bad, what with >>>> all >>>> the chemical preservatives. Ma would let us have a few. You couldn't >>>> tell >>>> the difference from a fresh one bought at the fanciest stores. >>> >>>My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar >>>back >>>then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >>>served...period! >> >> You sound proud. > > >I am, very...and blessed. Oh no, not blessed again ![]() |
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Cheri wrote:
> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message > news ![]() >> I was pretty poor growing up, and we usually bought sliced loaf bread >> at the "day old" store of a local bakery (sunbeam or colonial brands), >> and kept it in the fridge. It was very cheap compared to the same >> branded bread at the grocery stores, and often no more than a day or >> two older. >> >> They had those damn junk cakes too, and they *never* go bad, what with >> all the chemical preservatives. Ma would let us have a few. You >> couldn't tell the difference from a fresh one bought at the fanciest >> stores. > > My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar > back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was > served...period! > > Cheri It was probably less than that in my childhood. I remember buying moms cigarettes for 30 cents or less, and later, when I was old enough to drive, gasoline was about 25 cents. That's how life was then, and I didn't have a problem with it, and I still don't today. We were never forced to eat anything, but if we didn't want the food we could walk away. Sometimes, if I wasn't very hungry, I would only eat till I was full. We were never punished for that. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:50:16 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: > wrote in message ... >> On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 6:34:34 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote: >>> >>> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >>> news ![]() >>> > I was pretty poor growing up, and we usually bought sliced loaf bread >>> > at >>> > the "day old" store of a local bakery (sunbeam or colonial brands), and >>> > kept it in the fridge. It was very cheap compared to the same branded >>> > bread at the grocery stores, and often no more than a day or two older. >>> > >>> >>> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar >>> back >>> then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >>> served...period! >>> >>> Cheri >>> >> Dang, same way here! Did we three grow up in the same neighborhood?? >> > > >Hell, I think we might just be cousins at least. ![]() When my grandmother would get her hands on some very rare white bread in the Japanese war camp, she'd put it in a jar, to let it go mouldy and double in size. Then she'd divide it and hand it out. Her children were only too happy to eat it. |
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Druce wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:33:34 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >> news ![]() >>> I was pretty poor growing up, and we usually bought sliced loaf bread at >>> the "day old" store of a local bakery (sunbeam or colonial brands), and >>> kept it in the fridge. It was very cheap compared to the same branded >>> bread at the grocery stores, and often no more than a day or two older. >>> >>> They had those damn junk cakes too, and they *never* go bad, what with all >>> the chemical preservatives. Ma would let us have a few. You couldn't tell >>> the difference from a fresh one bought at the fanciest stores. >> >> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar back >> then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >> served...period! > > You sound proud. > You sound like an ass. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:08:40 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote: >Druce wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:33:34 -0700, "Cheri" > >> wrote: >> >>> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >>> news ![]() >>>> I was pretty poor growing up, and we usually bought sliced loaf bread at >>>> the "day old" store of a local bakery (sunbeam or colonial brands), and >>>> kept it in the fridge. It was very cheap compared to the same branded >>>> bread at the grocery stores, and often no more than a day or two older. >>>> >>>> They had those damn junk cakes too, and they *never* go bad, what with all >>>> the chemical preservatives. Ma would let us have a few. You couldn't tell >>>> the difference from a fresh one bought at the fanciest stores. >>> >>> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar back >>> then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >>> served...period! >> >> You sound proud. >> > >You sound like an ass. My comment was positive. Your comment was negative. I win. ![]() |
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On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 7:50:42 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
> > > wrote in message > ... > > > > Dang, same way here! Did we three grow up in the same neighborhood?? > > > Hell, I think we might just be cousins at least. ![]() > > Cheri > :-)) |
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On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 8:03:19 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > I remember buying moms > cigarettes for 30 cents or less, and later, when I was old enough to > drive, gasoline was about 25 cents. > I remember my brother sending me to the store about 4 or 5 doors down and buying cigarettes for him for 25¢ and him complaining when they went up to 30¢ per pack. > > That's how life was then, and I didn't have a problem with it, and I > still don't today. > Me, neither. > > We were never forced to eat anything, but if we didn't want the food we > could walk away. Sometimes, if I wasn't very hungry, I would only eat > till I was full. We were never punished for that. > Here, it was "if you don't like what's on the table you can leave." But no coming back later and prowling in the kitchen for something to eat. |
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On 9/20/2018 9:03 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> It was probably less than that in my childhood. I remember buying moms > cigarettes for 30 cents or less, and later, when I was old enough to > drive, gasoline was about 25 cents. > > That's how life was then, and I didn't have a problem with it, and I > still don't today. > > We were never forced to eat anything, but if we didn't want the food we > could walk away. Sometimes, if I wasn't very hungry, I would only eat > till I was full. We were never punished for that. > > In the mid fifties, My mother used to send me to a store a block way that had a machine for cigarettes. You put a quarter in the machine and the cigarette pack had two pennies on the side, under the cellophane. They also had penny candy. Bread was about a quarter too. |
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Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 20 Sep 2018 12:50:00p, l not -l told us... > >> >> On 20-Sep-2018, wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 1:41:15 PM UTC-4, Sheldon >>> wrote: >>>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:38:59 -0600, graham > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-09-20 10:34 AM, Cheri wrote: >>>>>> "graham" > wrote in message >>>>>> news ![]() >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we >>>>>>>>> slice as needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us >>>>>>>>> 4-5 days. When we buy packaged sliced bread it's kept >>>>>>>>> in the fridge... if frozen the entire loaf is defrosted >>>>>>>>> in the fridge. >>>>>>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it >>>>>>>> in the fridge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NEVER keep bread in the fridge! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheri >>>>> It stales faster. >>>> >>>> Faster than??? >>> >>> Faster than room temperature or freezer. >>> >>> In case you're interested in the science: >>> <https://www.thekitchn.com/food-science-how-bread-stales-83062> >> You are quite the optimist aren't you? I can't imagine Sheldon >> being interested in anything that challenges his expert knowledge >> of, well, everything. >> > > Sheldum is "Challenged" about everything. > Show some respect! Admiral Popeye is the finest officer in the US navy today. Our beloved president trump asked him to stay on duty a few more years, though he could have retired in 1950. You must be prejudiced. Is it because the admiral is married to a dark brown lady from another ****ry? Is it because the admiral's brother is a raving homosexual? Is it because the admiral is a walking sphincter? |
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"Hank Rogers" > wrote in message
news ![]() > Cheri wrote: >> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >> news ![]() >>> I was pretty poor growing up, and we usually bought sliced loaf bread >>> at the "day old" store of a local bakery (sunbeam or colonial brands), >>> and kept it in the fridge. It was very cheap compared to the same >>> branded bread at the grocery stores, and often no more than a day or >>> two older. >>> >>> They had those damn junk cakes too, and they *never* go bad, what with >>> all the chemical preservatives. Ma would let us have a few. You >>> couldn't tell the difference from a fresh one bought at the fanciest >>> stores. >> >> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar >> back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >> served...period! >> >> Cheri > > It was probably less than that in my childhood. I remember buying moms > cigarettes for 30 cents or less, and later, when I was old enough to > drive, gasoline was about 25 cents. > > That's how life was then, and I didn't have a problem with it, and I still > don't today. > > We were never forced to eat anything, but if we didn't want the food we > could walk away. Sometimes, if I wasn't very hungry, I would only eat till > I was full. We were never punished for that. We weren't either, but they did have one rule, you could take as much as you wanted, but you had to eat what you took. I only got caught on that one once with home canned cherries, I sat at the table for a very long time before they gave in. LOL Cheri |
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"Druce" > wrote in message
> When my grandmother would get her hands on some very rare white bread > in the Japanese war camp, she'd put it in a jar, to let it go mouldy > and double in size. Then she'd divide it and hand it out. Her children > were only too happy to eat it. I imagine if you're truly hungry anything would taste good. Cheri |
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"Druce" > wrote in message
... > On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:49:26 -0700, "Cheri" > > wrote: > >>"Druce" > wrote in message >>news ![]() >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:33:34 -0700, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>>"Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >>>>news ![]() >>>>> I was pretty poor growing up, and we usually bought sliced loaf bread >>>>> at >>>>> the "day old" store of a local bakery (sunbeam or colonial brands), >>>>> and >>>>> kept it in the fridge. It was very cheap compared to the same branded >>>>> bread at the grocery stores, and often no more than a day or two >>>>> older. >>>>> >>>>> They had those damn junk cakes too, and they *never* go bad, what with >>>>> all >>>>> the chemical preservatives. Ma would let us have a few. You couldn't >>>>> tell >>>>> the difference from a fresh one bought at the fanciest stores. >>>> >>>>My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar >>>>back >>>>then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >>>>served...period! >>> >>> You sound proud. >> >> >>I am, very...and blessed. > > Oh no, not blessed again ![]() Blessed in my life is enough, no need for sainthood. ![]() Cheri |
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U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 16:59:47 -0400, wrote: > >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 11:21:18 -0600, U.S. Janet B. > >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 09:58:05 -0700, "Cheri" > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "graham" > wrote in message >>>> news ![]() >>>>>> On 2018-09-20 10:34 AM, Cheri wrote: >>>>>>> "graham" > wrote in message >>>>>>> news ![]() >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as >>>>>>>>>> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy >>>>>>>>>> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... if frozen the entire >>>>>>>>>> loaf is defrosted in the fridge. >>>>>>>>> If I could go through a loaf in 4-5 days I might keep it in the >>>>>>>>> fridge. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> NEVER keep bread in the fridge! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why not? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>> It stales faster. >>>>> To regular bread bakers, that's Bread 101! >>>> >>>> >>>> When I make my own it's gone quickly, within a day. I don't make my own >>>> often anymore, but I will agree that it would stale faster for sure in the >>>> fridge. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> >>> I grabbed this explanation from the Web. Just search 'why does bread >>> stale' and you'll get lots of hits. >>> >>> "The crumb (the part inside) gets hard and stiff and the crust loses >>> any crispness it might have had. Most people attribute this to drying >>> out, but the opposite is in fact true. The bread is actually absorbing >>> moisture, as shown by an increase in weight as the loaf goes from >>> fresh to stale. The moisture absorbed by the crumb causes the starch >>> granules to crystallize, hardening the bread. This is why the fridge >>> is a bad place to store bread, even when it is well-wrapped, because >>> low temperatures speed up the starch crystallization process (although >>> freezing bread is fine because starch crystals don’t form at freezer >>> temperatures). It’s also why a brief visit to the oven can improve >>> stale bread, because the heat drives out some moisture and helps melt >>> the starch crystals." >>> https://kitchen-myths.com/ >> >> Total nonsense... depends on storage duration and perssonal hygiene... >> a week in the fridge harms nothing, months in the fridge harms all >> foods. I store bread in a countertop bread box for a week and it >> stays very edible. The only time bread stored on ones countertop gets >> moldy in under a week is in a filthy kitchen. Some store blocks of >> cheese in their fridge for a week and it gets all moldy, soley because >> they handle cheese with unwashed crotch hands... it's amazing how many >> don't wash their hands after wiping because there's no restaurant sign >> in their shit house. Janet B, get yourself a surgeon's scrub brush >> and a bar of brown soap. > > I will report your findings to the food scientists who study these > things. They know people like you exist. They may be interested on > your findings regarding diseased chicken parts > Ah, let it go. If he gets caught humping a chicken, he might do time in sing sing. The poor mexican woman would suffer more than Popeye. |
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On 2018-09-20 5:33 PM, Cheri wrote:
> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message > news ![]() > > My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar > back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was > served...period! > > Cheri We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread was bought every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a long time ago). I don't know how Mum did it on Dad's wages but we always ate well. Always butter, never margarine, and *never* mince/hamburger. |
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"graham" > wrote in message
news ![]() > On 2018-09-20 5:33 PM, Cheri wrote: >> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >> news ![]() > >> >> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar >> back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >> served...period! >> >> Cheri > We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread was bought > every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a long time ago). I don't > know how Mum did it on Dad's wages but we always ate well. Always butter, > never margarine, and *never* mince/hamburger. We ate pretty well too since we lived on a ranch with pretty much fresh everything, beef, lamb, pork, chicken, turkey, and so on, but mom and grandma did not bake bread often at all, too many other chores came first with seven kids and not all the modern conveniences we have these days. They never discussed money with us kids, but I don't think we were rolling in it by any means. Cheri |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 18:56:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote: >"Druce" > wrote in message > >> When my grandmother would get her hands on some very rare white bread >> in the Japanese war camp, she'd put it in a jar, to let it go mouldy >> and double in size. Then she'd divide it and hand it out. Her children >> were only too happy to eat it. > > >I imagine if you're truly hungry anything would taste good. I think so too. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:05:18 -0600, graham > wrote:
>On 2018-09-20 5:33 PM, Cheri wrote: >> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >> news ![]() > >> >> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar >> back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >> served...period! >> >> Cheri >We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread was bought >every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a long time ago). That's very French. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:36:16 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:05:59 GMT, l not -l wrote: > >> On 20-Sep-2018, U.S. Janet B. > wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 23:28:53 -0500, Sqwertz > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've always wanted a real meat >>>> slicer. You know, 400 RPM with the the automatic shuttle and feeder >>>> kind of like they use (or used) at Arby's back in the dayz. Just >>>> set it and forget it! >>> >>> we could go in together on the meat slicer if there wasn't a 1,000 >>> miles between us ![]() >> >> Well, I'd be willing to join in. Perhaps we three (or more if others join >> in) could be the, um, er, uh - Siblinghood of the Traveling Slicer. 8-) > >We could rent it an apartment in, say, south central Colorado and >visit it any time we wanted? > >-sw that works for me. ![]() |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:29:57 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:00:30 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >> we could go in together on the meat slicer if there wasn't a 1,000 >> miles between us ![]() > >It would end up in a long, drawn out custody battle that wouldn't be >fair to the meat slicer. > >-sw can't we all just get along? |
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Cheri wrote:
> "Druce" > wrote in message >> When my grandmother would get her hands on some very rare white bread >> in the Japanese war camp, she'd put it in a jar, to let it go mouldy >> and double in size. Then she'd divide it and hand it out. Her children >> were only too happy to eat it. > > > I imagine if you're truly hungry anything would taste good. > > Cheri YES! I've heard folks say: Ewe ... I would never eat that! It is a phrase I will never say. I'll never say I won't eat a rat, for example. I've never had to, but the time could come. Fortunately, I was never in a Vietnamese prison camp, but if I had been, I imagine I would have eaten anything I could get. One of my uncles was a POW in north korea. He lived on a few fish heads boiled in a pot of rice for a long time. It was all they gave them, and damn little of that. He survived. Some didn't. |
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On 2018-09-20 8:44 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 20 Sep 2018 07:05:18p, graham told us... > >> On 2018-09-20 5:33 PM, Cheri wrote: >>> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >>> news ![]() >> >>> >>> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a >>> dollar back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We >>> ate what was served...period! >>> >>> Cheri >> We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread was >> bought every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a long >> time ago). I don't know how Mum did it on Dad's wages but we >> always ate well. Always butter, never margarine, and *never* >> mince/hamburger. >> > > A loaf of bread a day is a lot of bread unless you have a large > family. > Dad took sandwiches to work and I think a lot was wasted as stale. |
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On 2018-09-20 10:58 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2018-09-20 8:44 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> On Thu 20 Sep 2018 07:05:18p, graham told us... >> >>> On 2018-09-20 5:33 PM, Cheri wrote: >>>> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >>>> news ![]() >>>> >>>> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a >>>> dollar back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We >>>> ate what was served...period! >>>> >>>> Cheri >>> We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread was >>> bought every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a long >>> time ago). I don't know how Mum did it on Dad's wages but we >>> always ate well. Always butter, never margarine, and *never* >>> mince/hamburger. >>> >> >> A loaf of bread a day is a lot of bread unless you have a large >> family. >> > Dad took sandwiches to work and I think a lot was wasted as stale. Furthermore, the baker sold small, one pound loaves as well as the standard 2lb. |
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"Hank Rogers" > wrote in message
news ![]() > Cheri wrote: >> "Druce" > wrote in message >>> When my grandmother would get her hands on some very rare white bread >>> in the Japanese war camp, she'd put it in a jar, to let it go mouldy >>> and double in size. Then she'd divide it and hand it out. Her children >>> were only too happy to eat it. >> >> >> I imagine if you're truly hungry anything would taste good. >> >> Cheri > > YES! > > I've heard folks say: Ewe ... I would never eat that! > > It is a phrase I will never say. I'll never say I won't eat a rat, for > example. I've never had to, but the time could come. > > Fortunately, I was never in a Vietnamese prison camp, but if I had been, I > imagine I would have eaten anything I could get. > > One of my uncles was a POW in north korea. He lived on a few fish heads > boiled in a pot of rice for a long time. It was all they gave them, and > damn little of that. He survived. Some didn't. I have a cousin who was a POW in Vietnam for over 5 years, he would have eaten, and did, just about anything he could get his hands on. Thankfully, I have never known true hunger. Cheri |
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![]() "dsi1" wrote in message ... On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 10:15:04 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote: > == > > Why not?? I make our bread for D because I eat very little. He never > seems to complain. My wife is on a low carb diet so I don't feel like eating bread in her presence. I'm at work so I had a coffee and a doughnut i.e., "Breakfast of Champions." Champions of what? You don't want to know... ![]() == Why do I get the impression it would be better for me not to ask? |
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![]() "l not -l" wrote in message ... On 20-Sep-2018, "Ophelia" > wrote: > "l not -l" wrote in message ... > > > On 20-Sep-2018, U.S. Janet B. > wrote: > > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 23:28:53 -0500, Sqwertz > > > wrote: > > > > >On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 14:32:40 GMT, l not -l wrote: > > > > > >> On 18-Sep-2018, Sqwertz > wrote: > > >> > > >>> Do you have metal replacement gears for the more "modern" KitchenAid > > >>> mixers? :-) > > >> > > >> Sorry; but, I do not. The parts I provision, some newly made, others > > >> recycled, are for Rival and Magic Hostess (metal bodied) meat > > >> slicers, > > >> Kitcheneer and Shred-o-matic appliances of the 60s-80s. > > > > > >That seems to ring a bell now. I've always wanted a real meat > > >slicer. You know, 400 RPM with the the automatic shuttle and feeder > > >- kind of like they use (or used) at Arby's back in the dayz. Just > > >set it and forget it! > > > > > >> I assume you have checked the usual suspects, Amazon and eBay. There > > >> are > > >> presently beveled gear sets available on eBay, however, they may not > > >> be > > >> what > > >> you seek. When searching for hard to find parts, I set up an eBay > > >> Favorite > > >> Search with email notification, which eventually turns up what I > > >> seek. > > > > > >I don't need them ... yet. I just know it's a popular item that > > >people frequently ask for. I used to be able to get them locally at > > >a hardware store here, but that store just went out of business > > >after 80 years. So I suspect I'll need them shortly! <grrr> > > > > > >-sw > > we could go in together on the meat slicer if there wasn't a 1,000 > > miles between us ![]() > Well, I'd be willing to join in. Perhaps we three (or more if others join > in) could be the, um, er, uh - Siblinghood of the Traveling Slicer. 8-) > > === > > LOL Well I have a small one, nothing like the automatic ones you are all > describing ![]() > > He > > http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7078372?cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59157|acid:480-316-7430|cid:199888833|agid:17471076873|tid ![]() > > It works fine enough for me and think of all the travelling time you will > save <g> Since you showed me yours, I feel obliged to show you mine. 8-) Well, actually it is only a photo of one that looks like my old workhorse. Not automated slicing; but, it does meet my actual needs, vs. my desire for wonderful gadgets. http://assets.suredone.com/2094/medi...cer-639-2.jpeg === Wow that looks like a pretty solid bit of kit!! Does it have a handle then? |
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On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 3:53:40 AM UTC-4, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Thu 20 Sep 2018 10:00:02p, graham told us... > > > On 2018-09-20 10:58 PM, graham wrote: > >> On 2018-09-20 8:44 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote: > >>> On Thu 20 Sep 2018 07:05:18p, graham told us... > >>> > >>>> On 2018-09-20 5:33 PM, Cheri wrote: > >>>>> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message > >>>>> news ![]() > >>>>> > >>>>> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for > >>>>> a dollar back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. > >>>>> We ate what was served...period! > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheri > >>>> We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread > >>>> was bought every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a > >>>> long time ago). I don't know how Mum did it on Dad's wages but > >>>> we always ate well. Always butter, never margarine, and *never* > >>>> mince/hamburger. > >>>> > >>> > >>> A loaf of bread a day is a lot of bread unless you have a large > >>> family. > >>> > >> Dad took sandwiches to work and I think a lot was wasted as > >> stale. > > > > Furthermore, the baker sold small, one pound loaves as well as the > > standard 2lb. > > That all maks perfect sense. I just wondered. There were only the > 3 of us and we didn't make a lot of sandwiches. I don't think we > went through more than one loaf of bread week. My mother did a lot > o baking...quick breads, cakes, pies, etc. Every faily is > different. > To be sure. I grew up in the 1960s, in a single-parent household in the Detroit suburbs. I saw a lot of convenience foods (to the extent we could afford them on my mother's pay as a secretary). No village; no village bakery. Shiny modern grocery stores. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote: >On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 11:00:37 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >> we could go in together on the meat slicer if there wasn't a 1,000 >> miles between us ![]() >> >You could have 'custody' of the meat slicer for one year and then Steve >can have 'custody' the next year. HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA sorry, I couldn't >resist. It would make more sense for them to live together. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote: >On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 12:39:47 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote: >> >> Since discovering this brand it's mostly all we buy. >> http://www.heidelbergbread.com/bread/ >> >New York state only. And sold in a fairly localized area close to their bakery. It's a better product than many neighborhood bakeries. |
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On 2018-09-21 12:58 AM, graham wrote:
>>> We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread was >>> bought every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a long >>> time ago). I don't know how Mum did it on Dad's wages but we >>> always ate well. Always butter, never margarine, and *never* >>> mince/hamburger. >>> >> >> A loaf of bread a day is a lot of bread unless you have a large >> family. >> > Dad took sandwiches to work and I think a lot was wasted as stale. We usually had home made and it was nothing to go through two loaves a day. I had three brothers and Mom packed sandwiches for the four of us and for Dad. We had toast with out breakfast and bread and butter with dinner. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 penmart01 wrote: >>On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>>I grabbed this explanation from the Web. Just search 'why does bread >>>stale' and you'll get lots of hits. >>> >>>"The crumb (the part inside) gets hard and stiff and the crust loses >>>any crispness it might have had. Most people attribute this to drying >>>out, but the opposite is in fact true. The bread is actually absorbing >>>moisture, as shown by an increase in weight as the loaf goes from >>>fresh to stale. The moisture absorbed by the crumb causes the starch >>>granules to crystallize, hardening the bread. This is why the fridge >>>is a bad place to store bread, even when it is well-wrapped, because >>>low temperatures speed up the starch crystallization process (although >>>freezing bread is fine because starch crystals don’t form at freezer >>>temperatures). It’s also why a brief visit to the oven can improve >>>stale bread, because the heat drives out some moisture and helps melt >>>the starch crystals." >>>https://kitchen-myths.com/ >> >>Total nonsense... depends on storage duration and perssonal hygiene... >>a week in the fridge harms nothing, months in the fridge harms all >>foods. I store bread in a countertop bread box for a week and it >>stays very edible. The only time bread stored on ones countertop gets >>moldy in under a week is in a filthy kitchen. Some store blocks of >>cheese in their fridge for a week and it gets all moldy, soley because >>they handle cheese with unwashed crotch hands... it's amazing how many >>don't wash their hands after wiping because there's no restaurant sign >>in their shit house. Janet B, get yourself a surgeon's scrub brush >>and a bar of brown soap. How does refrigerated bread absorb moisture... I doubt anyone refrigerates bread without wrapping it in plastic... perhaps you. >I will report your findings to the food scientists who study these >things. They know people like you exist. They may be interested on >your findings regarding diseased chicken parts You really believe that livestock doesn't develop cancers/infections.... especially common with poultry. And when you buy preground mystery meat they ground in the tumors, infections, and all kinds of nasties. |
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 20:32:05 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote: >On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 12:02:23 -0400, wrote: > >> I found that when sliced bread is frozen the slices stick together. >> When we buy bakery bread we don't have them slice it, we slice as >> needed, a loaf goes in the fridge and lasts us 4-5 days. When we buy >> packaged sliced bread it's kept in the fridge... > >Bakery bread in the refrigerator? TIAD! Every moron knows not to >store bread in the fridge. It stales 7 times faster in the fridge >than at room temp and loses proper texture within a day. > >TIAD! > >-sw Living in tortilla land you needn't worry. |
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> And when you buy preground mystery meat they ground > in the tumors, infections, and all kinds of nasties. ====== No, I don't believe that at all. Cheri |
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On 9/20/2018 11:39 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:29:57 -0500, Sqwertz > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:00:30 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> >>> we could go in together on the meat slicer if there wasn't a 1,000 >>> miles between us ![]() >> >> It would end up in a long, drawn out custody battle that wouldn't be >> fair to the meat slicer. > can't we all just get along? We could all just share at the rfc retirement home. nancy |
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On 2018-09-21 7:40 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says... >> >> On 2018-09-20 5:33 PM, Cheri wrote: >>> "Hank Rogers" > wrote in message >>> news ![]() >> >>> >>> My mom always bought the day old, something like 4 loaves for a dollar >>> back then. There were a lot of us, so it saved money. We ate what was >>> served...period! >>> >>> Cheri >> We lived only 30yds from one of the 2 village bakeries. Bread was bought >> every weekday, possibly Saturday as well (it was a long time ago). I >> don't know how Mum did it on Dad's wages but we always ate well. Always >> butter, never margarine, and *never* mince/hamburger. > > Were you raised in the UK? Butter was rationed here from 1940 until > 1953 (two ounces per adult per week). > > Margarine was also rationed, 4oz per week. > > Janet UK > > I come from Suffolk. Butter was rationed as you say but you forget that in rural areas where there were dairy herds, butter was available outside the ration. |
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On 2018-09-21 8:12 AM, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 9/20/2018 11:39 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 21:29:57 -0500, Sqwertz > >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 10:00:30 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote: >>> >>>> we could go in together on the meat slicer if there wasn't a 1,000 >>>> miles between us ![]() >>> >>> It would end up in a long, drawn out custody battle that wouldn't be >>> fair to the meat slicer. > >> can't we all just get along? > > We could all just share at the rfc retirement home. > > nancy A place where after a few days, no-one is on speaking terms:-) |
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On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 5:28:27 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > > LOL Well I have a small one, nothing like the automatic ones you are all > > describing ![]() > > > > He > > > > http://www.argos.co.uk/product/7078372?cmpid=GS001&_$ja=tsid:59157|acid:480-316-7430|cid:199888833|agid:17471076873|tid ![]() > > > > I've got one e.x.a.c.t.l.y like Ophelia's. It does quite a good job. |
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On Friday, September 21, 2018 at 7:26:32 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), " > > wrote: > > >On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 11:00:37 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote: > >> > >> we could go in together on the meat slicer if there wasn't a 1,000 > >> miles between us ![]() > >> > >You could have 'custody' of the meat slicer for one year and then Steve > >can have 'custody' the next year. HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA sorry, I couldn't > >resist. > > It would make more sense for them to live together. > But one might try to put the other through that meat slicer they share. |
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