On 10/27/2018 8:38 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> I usually bake pumpkin, sweet potato, and pecan. Sometimes mince.
>
> What pies are the most popular or common in your house?
>
#1 for us is apple. In season, peach. A friend bakes mince every year
and I usually have a slice and take home a slice and I'm good for the year.

On 10/27/2018 9:38 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> I absolutely love good homemade apple pie and bake them periodically
> throughout the year. It never occurred to me to bake one for the
> holidays.
>
> What apples do you prefer using? I often combine golden delicious
> and jonagold. There are many varieties that aren't available here in
> AZ.
>

We use Gala and/or Cortland. Many varieties available at local orchards
around here.

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 9:48:50 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/27/2018 9:38 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>
> >
> > I absolutely love good homemade apple pie and bake them periodically
> > throughout the year. It never occurred to me to bake one for the
> > holidays.
> >
> > What apples do you prefer using? I often combine golden delicious
> > and jonagold. There are many varieties that aren't available here in
> > AZ.
> >
>
> We use Gala and/or Cortland. Many varieties available at local orchards
> around here.

I like Granny Smith's! I like my apples tart!

John Kuthe...

In article 23>,
says...
>
> On Sat 27 Oct 2018 06:24:40p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
> > On 10/27/2018 8:38 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> I usually bake pumpkin, sweet potato, and pecan. Sometimes
> >> mince.
> >>
> >> What pies are the most popular or common in your house?
> >>
> > #1 for us is apple. In season, peach. A friend bakes mince every
> > year and I usually have a slice and take home a slice and I'm good
> > for the year.
> >
>
> I absolutely love good homemade apple pie and bake them periodically
> throughout the year. It never occurred to me to bake one for the
> holidays.
>
> What apples do you prefer using? I often combine golden delicious
> and jonagold. There are many varieties that aren't available here in
> AZ.

Has to be Bramleys for us; it's a large green "cooker"; so tart and
acid you wouldn't want to eat it raw. Perfect for pies, baked apples and
apple sauce.

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/glossary/bramley-apple

Second choice, Granny Smith.

https://www.specialtyproduce.com/pro...pples_2021.php

Janet UK

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:44:40 -0000, Janet > wrote:

>In article 23>,
says...
>>
>> On Sat 27 Oct 2018 06:24:40p, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>>
>> > On 10/27/2018 8:38 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> >> I usually bake pumpkin, sweet potato, and pecan. Sometimes
>> >> mince.
>> >>
>> >> What pies are the most popular or common in your house?
>> >>
>> > #1 for us is apple. In season, peach. A friend bakes mince every
>> > year and I usually have a slice and take home a slice and I'm good
>> > for the year.
>> >
>>
>> I absolutely love good homemade apple pie and bake them periodically
>> throughout the year. It never occurred to me to bake one for the
>> holidays.
>>
>> What apples do you prefer using? I often combine golden delicious
>> and jonagold. There are many varieties that aren't available here in
>> AZ.
>
> Has to be Bramleys for us; it's a large green "cooker"; so tart and
>acid you wouldn't want to eat it raw. Perfect for pies, baked apples and
>apple sauce.

Because you add so much sugar that you can't taste the inedible
tartness anymore.

Brice wrote:
>
> Janet > wrote:
> > Has to be Bramleys for us; it's a large green "cooker"; so tart and
> >acid you wouldn't want to eat it raw. Perfect for pies, baked apples and
> >apple sauce.
>
> Because you add so much sugar that you can't taste the inedible
> tartness anymore.

I sure agree with you there.
Even though many say that Red Delicious apples aren't good for
pies, I disagree. They are my apples of choice for plain eating
and for pies.

I've only made one failure apple pie in my life. That's when I
chose to use the sour Granny Smith apples. Horrible. If I had
known, I could have added lots of extra sugar to combat that but
I just went back to the Red Delicious ones.

Note: Gala apples aren't bad either. I would make a pie from
them.

Another note: I do like a slightly sour apple. Red Delicious or
Gala not quite ripened are good but I do not like the green ones
that stay sour even when they are ripe.

In article >, says...
>
> Brice wrote:
> >
> > Janet > wrote:
> > > Has to be Bramleys for us; it's a large green "cooker"; so tart and
> > >acid you wouldn't want to eat it raw. Perfect for pies, baked apples and
> > >apple sauce.
> >
> > Because you add so much sugar that you can't taste the inedible
> > tartness anymore.

Poor Broke. More experience of coke than cooking.
>
> I sure agree with you there.
> Even though many say that Red Delicious apples aren't good for
> pies, I disagree. They are my apples of choice for plain eating
> and for pies.
>
> I've only made one failure apple pie in my life. That's when I
> chose to use the sour Granny Smith apples. Horrible. If I had
> known, I could have added lots of extra sugar to combat that but
> I just went back to the Red Delicious ones.
>
> Note: Gala apples aren't bad either. I would make a pie from
> them.

I wouldn't. That's a rather sweet bland apple. To eat raw, I'd prefer
a Cox, or Braeburn.

I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
recipes.

Janet UK

On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
....
>
> I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
> recipes.
>
> Janet UK

TrueDAT!!! :-( And PLEASE SAY "United Statesian"!! The United States OF America is just ONE NATION of the Americas, of which there are three! South, Central and North America.

I owned a GLOBE as a kid! I KNOW!

John Kuthe...

On 2018-10-28 7:25 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> Brice wrote:
>>>
>>> Janet > wrote:
>>>> Has to be Bramleys for us; it's a large green "cooker"; so tart and
>>>> acid you wouldn't want to eat it raw. Perfect for pies, baked apples and
>>>> apple sauce.
>>>
>>> Because you add so much sugar that you can't taste the inedible
>>> tartness anymore.
>
> Poor Broke. More experience of coke than cooking.
>>
>> I sure agree with you there.
>> Even though many say that Red Delicious apples aren't good for
>> pies, I disagree. They are my apples of choice for plain eating
>> and for pies.
>>
>> I've only made one failure apple pie in my life. That's when I
>> chose to use the sour Granny Smith apples. Horrible. If I had
>> known, I could have added lots of extra sugar to combat that but
>> I just went back to the Red Delicious ones.
>>
>> Note: Gala apples aren't bad either. I would make a pie from
>> them.
>
> I wouldn't. That's a rather sweet bland apple. To eat raw, I'd prefer
> a Cox, or Braeburn.
>
> I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
> recipes.
>
> Janet UK
>
When we moved here we were equally amazed and cut the sugar content of
any cookie recipe by half! When M&S opened a store here we bought our
biscuits there but a visiting S-I-L reckoned they were still sweeter
than the UK originals.
Then there's jellied "salads"............:-)

On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 8:26:40 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
....
>
> I still have my GLOBE since childhood. It sits on a shelf right
> behind me. It's about 50 years old and much of it is all wrong
> now.
>
> I've been tempted at times to buy a new updated one just for fun.
> Even my big wall world map, right above me, is very outdated.
> Still has Soviet Union.

Yep! POLITICAL boundaries!!! Always changing!!!

And now the PLANET is changing too!!! We SCREWED UP GAIA'S WATER CYCLES AGAIN!! We pumped up all that dead dinosaur FOOD and burned all the CARBON back up into the atmosphere, AGAIN!!

Remember the time it rained for Two Million Years? Yeah, ME EITHER!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LdMWlNYS4&t=180s

But it broke up Pangea and grew food for the Dinosaurs!

Then about 65 million years ago that METEOR went METEORITE and BLEW A HOLE/DENT in the Earth's Crust which we now call the Gulf Of Mexico!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> The United States OF America is just ONE NATION of the Americas,
> of which there are three! South, Central and North America.

"the Americas" actually only consist of 2 continents.
"Central America" and above is all considered North America.

>
> I owned a GLOBE as a kid! I KNOW!

I still have my GLOBE since childhood. It sits on a shelf right
behind me. It's about 50 years old and much of it is all wrong
now.

I've been tempted at times to buy a new updated one just for fun.
Even my big wall world map, right above me, is very outdated.
Still has Soviet Union.

On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 10:13:55 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> ...
> >
> > I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
> > recipes.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> TrueDAT!!! :-( And PLEASE SAY "United Statesian"!!

Please don't. The United States of America is the only country with "America"
in its name. There is no ambiguity.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 9:34:43 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 10:13:55 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 28, 2018 at 7:25:29 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
> > ...
> > >
> > > I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
> > > recipes.
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> >
> > TrueDAT!!! :-( And PLEASE SAY "United Statesian"!!
>
> Please don't. The United States of America is the only country with "America"
> in its name. There is no ambiguity.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Precisely!! "United States" for short!

You CAN make your mouth make all those phonemes, correct?

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:26:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> The United States OF America is just ONE NATION of the Americas,
>> of which there are three! South, Central and North America.
>
>"the Americas" actually only consist of 2 continents.
>"Central America" and above is all considered North America.
>
>>
>> I owned a GLOBE as a kid! I KNOW!
>
>I still have my GLOBE since childhood. It sits on a shelf right
>behind me. It's about 50 years old and much of it is all wrong
>now.

Does it still show Australia at the bottom?

On 10/28/2018 1:21 PM, Brice wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 10:26:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> The United States OF America is just ONE NATION of the Americas,
>>> of which there are three! South, Central and North America.
>>
>> "the Americas" actually only consist of 2 continents.
>> "Central America" and above is all considered North America.
>>
>>>
>>> I owned a GLOBE as a kid! I KNOW!
>>
>> I still have my GLOBE since childhood. It sits on a shelf right
>> behind me. It's about 50 years old and much of it is all wrong
>> now.
>
> Does it still show Australia at the bottom?
>

Nope, it fell off.

On 10/28/2018 7:25 AM, Janet wrote:

> I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
> recipes.

As I've stated, before, Americans are like the Belgians/French in their
love of sweets.

Many of our fruits/veggies have been bred to be sweeter. White peaches,
white nectarines, white corn are jes a few examples. "White" anything
is usually bred to be sweeter.

nb

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:54:20 -0600, notbob > wrote:

>On 10/28/2018 7:25 AM, Janet wrote:
>
>> I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
>> recipes.
>
>As I've stated, before, Americans are like the Belgians/French in their
>love of sweets.

I don't think so. Sweet products always get extra sugar added for the
American market.

"Brice" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:54:20 -0600, notbob > wrote:
>
>>On 10/28/2018 7:25 AM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>> I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
>>> recipes.
>>
>>As I've stated, before, Americans are like the Belgians/French in their
>>love of sweets.
>
> I don't think so. Sweet products always get extra sugar added for the
> American market.


So what? There needs to be improvement. LOL

Cheri

On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:59:54 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Brice" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:54:20 -0600, notbob > wrote:
>>
>>>On 10/28/2018 7:25 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm continually amazed at the sugar content of American foods and
>>>> recipes.
>>>
>>>As I've stated, before, Americans are like the Belgians/French in their
>>>love of sweets.
>>
>> I don't think so. Sweet products always get extra sugar added for the
>> American market.
>
>
>So what? There needs to be improvement. LOL

Yes, they're called sweets for a reason!

On 2018-10-28 4:03 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> As I posted upthread, Bramley apples are now available in the US. I
> don't usually use Granny Smith apples for regular apple pie, but I
> do cook them down to a rough texture to use in making fried pies
> (turnovers).
>
Here's something you might try to cool off a bit in your climate!

Iced apple cream loaf

900g (2lb) Bramley apples, peeled, quartered, cored and sliced
Caster sugar 175g (6 oz)
Lemon 1, pared rind and juice
Eggs 2 X-large, whites only
Heavy cream 300 ml (10fl. oz)
Icing sugar 75g (3 oz) sieved
Red apple slices to decorate, optional

Place apples, 110g (4 oz) caster sugar, lemon rind and juice in large
saucepan. Add 1tbsp water, cover and cook until apples are soft and
fluffy, then drain in stainless steel or nylon sieve placed over a bowl.
(I continue cooking on a lowish heat to drive off the excess liquid so
that sieving isnt necessary). Cool and chill well.
Line a 21x11.5x8cm (8.5"x4.5"x3") loaf tin with non stick baking paper.
Whisk egg whites until stiff, then gradually whisk in remaining caster
sugar.
Whisk cream with icing sugar until it holds a soft peak. Whisk drained
apples until almost smooth, then fold in egg whites and cream. Pour
into loaf tin, cover and freeze.
Remove from freezer, un-mould onto a serving plate, remove paper and
decorate with apple slices, if using.
Or serve with a raspberry coulis.
If Bramleys arent available, use Granny Smiths but cut the sugar in the
apple purée by half. 2-3 small limes are a good substitute for the lemon.

On 2018-10-28 5:38 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sun 28 Oct 2018 03:50:00p, graham told us...
>
>> On 2018-10-28 4:03 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As I posted upthread, Bramley apples are now available in the US.
>>> I don't usually use Granny Smith apples for regular apple pie,
>>> but I do cook them down to a rough texture to use in making fried
>>> pies (turnovers).
>>>
>> Here's something you might try to cool off a bit in your climate!
>>
>> Iced apple cream loaf
>>
>> 900g (2lb) Bramley apples, peeled, quartered, cored and sliced
>> Caster sugar 175g (6 oz)
>> Lemon 1, pared rind and juice
>> Eggs 2 X-large, whites only
>> Heavy cream 300 ml (10fl. oz)
>> Icing sugar 75g (3 oz) sieved
>> Red apple slices to decorate, optional
>>
>> Place apples, 110g (4 oz) caster sugar, lemon rind and juice in
>> large saucepan. Add 1tbsp water, cover and cook until apples are
>> soft and fluffy, then drain in stainless steel or nylon sieve
>> placed over a bowl.
>> (I continue cooking on a lowish heat to drive off the excess
>> liquid so
>> that sieving isn€„¢t necessary). Cool and chill well.
>> Line a 21x11.5x8cm (8.5"x4.5"x3") loaf tin with non stick baking
>> paper. Whisk egg whites until stiff, then gradually whisk in
>> remaining caster sugar.
>> Whisk cream with icing sugar until it holds a soft peak. Whisk
>> drained apples until almost smooth, then fold in egg whites and
>> cream. Pour into loaf tin, cover and freeze.
>> Remove from freezer, un-mould onto a serving plate, remove paper
>> and decorate with apple slices, if using.
>> Or serve with a raspberry coulis.
>> If Bramleys aren€„¢t available, use Granny Smiths but cut the
>> sugar in the apple purée by half. 2-3 small limes are a good
>> substitute for the lemon.
>>
>>
>
> That really does sound good! The next time I buy apples I will
> definiely make this. Thanks, again!
>
A friend in the UK served this and gave me the recipe. I have to make it
with GS apples as I have never seen Bramleys here.