On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
> and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
> additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
> include:
>
> Menu
>
> List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
> doesn't actually have a recipe.
>
> List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>
> Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
> day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>
> I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
> issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
> I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
>
> I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>
You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.

jay

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
> > include:
> >
> > Menu
> >
> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
> >
> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
> >
> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
> > day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
> >
> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
> >
> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
> >
> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
> local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
>
> jay

That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
about his stuffing.

We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
organize it like Operation Overlord.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
>> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
>> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
>> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
>> > include:
>> >
>> > Menu
>> >
>> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
>> >
>> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>> >
>> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
>> > day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>> >
>> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
>> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
>> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
>> >
>> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>> >
>> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
>> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
>> local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
>>
>> jay
>
> That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
> about his stuffing.
>
> We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
> organize it like Operation Overlord.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance either.
Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well. Holiday cooking
doesn't really need to be complicated.

Cheri

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:52:57 AM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
> >> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
> >> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
> >> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
> >> > include:
> >> >
> >> > Menu
> >> >
> >> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
> >> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
> >> >
> >> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
> >> >
> >> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
> >> > day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
> >> >
> >> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
> >> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
> >> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
> >> >
> >> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
> >> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
> >> local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
> >>
> >> jay
> >
> > That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
> > about his stuffing.
> >
> > We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
> > organize it like Operation Overlord.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance either.
> Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well. Holiday cooking
> doesn't really need to be complicated.
>
> Cheri

We sometimes have cranberry-orange relish as dessert (which is
made the day before). Yeah, we're a little weird.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:52:57 AM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
>> >> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> >> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
>> >> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
>> >> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
>> >> > include:
>> >> >
>> >> > Menu
>> >> >
>> >> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>> >> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
>> >> >
>> >> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>> >> >
>> >> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a
>> >> > prior
>> >> > day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
>> >> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
>> >> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
>> >> >
>> >> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>> >> >
>> >> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
>> >> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
>> >> local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
>> >>
>> >> jay
>> >
>> > That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
>> > about his stuffing.
>> >
>> > We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
>> > organize it like Operation Overlord.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
>> I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance either.
>> Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well. Holiday
>> cooking
>> doesn't really need to be complicated.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> We sometimes have cranberry-orange relish as dessert (which is
> made the day before). Yeah, we're a little weird.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Weird is good at times. To add to the above, that doesn't mean that I
don't make lists when going grocery shopping for the things I will need.

Cheri

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 1:05:58 PM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 10:52:57 AM UTC-4, Cheri wrote:
> >> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
> >> >> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >> >> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
> >> >> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
> >> >> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
> >> >> > include:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Menu
> >> >> >
> >> >> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
> >> >> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a
> >> >> > prior
> >> >> > day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
> >> >> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
> >> >> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
> >> >> >
> >> >> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
> >> >> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
> >> >> local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
> >> >>
> >> >> jay
> >> >
> >> > That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
> >> > about his stuffing.
> >> >
> >> > We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
> >> > organize it like Operation Overlord.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >>
> >> I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance either.
> >> Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well. Holiday
> >> cooking
> >> doesn't really need to be complicated.
> >>
> >> Cheri
> >
> > We sometimes have cranberry-orange relish as dessert (which is
> > made the day before). Yeah, we're a little weird.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> Weird is good at times. To add to the above, that doesn't mean that I
> don't make lists when going grocery shopping for the things I will need.

Ditto. When I shop on November 15, I'll have turkey, Bob Evans
spicy breakfast sausage, celery, onion, squishy white bread,
etc., on the list. Stuff that either I don't usually have on
hand (bread, sausage) or that I want to ensure I'm not out
by Thanksgiving (celery, onion).

Criminy! That's only two weeks away.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:52:22 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
>> about his stuffing.
>>
>> We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
>> organize it like Operation Overlord.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
>I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance either.
>Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well. Holiday cooking
>doesn't really need to be complicated.

No you just pull out the Cool Whip!

jay wrote:

> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
> > include:
> >
> > Menu
> >
> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
> >
> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
> >
> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a
> > prior day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
> >
> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
> >
> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
> >
> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from
> the local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
>
> jay

We aren't too fancy here except Don wants 'tradition' for that one
meal. It feels of home to him so I hang about the edges and make a few
sides or chop something. I think the main time he wanted help, was in
Sasebo the time they sold out of stuffing (none would be shipped in for
another 3 weeks). So, I made stuffing bread and it came out just fine
after Charlotte and I tore up the fresh loaf I made in the ABM (with
all the traditional seasonings) and dried in the oven.

Cheri wrote:

> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
> > > On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> >>> For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the
> following >>> and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me
> allows for >>> additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes.
> The printouts >>> include:
> > > >
> >>> Menu
> > > >
> >>> List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
> >>> doesn't actually have a recipe.
> > > >
> >>> List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
> > > >
> >>> Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a
> prior >>> day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
> > > >
> >>> I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
> >>> issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is
> that >>> I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of
> me.
> > > >
> >>> I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
> > > >
> > > You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG
> > > meals for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey
> > > dinner from the local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about
> > > it all.
> > >
> > > jay
> >
> > That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
> > about his stuffing.
> >
> > We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
> > organize it like Operation Overlord.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance
> either. Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well.
> Holiday cooking doesn't really need to be complicated.
>
> Cheri

Here it all rather depends on how many will be served. In Japan, it
was usualy just the 3 of us plus a sailor or 2 from our Sasebo ships
and we'd get a little fancy with some aspects (or figuring out an
alternative if the commissarry was out of something and shippage meant
none would arrive before the holiday). Not too fancy though.

Here we range from 24 to 3 guests depending on the year. We are
shaping that now and looks like 8 guests (numbers will change up or
down as we get closer). Thats 11 folks when you add us in. I can fit
2 10lb or so birds in the oven and if we hit 24 or so folks, the
neighbors cook a ham to make the gap for the meats. As the group here
expands (2007-current), folks bring a bit of what they can afford. If
it's a small group, we handle it (and may get a gift of cookies or
something for the group at the table).

Before any think this is crazy, we live in an older neighborhood where
almost all are either young folks with 1-2 toddlers trying to make a go
with first home, and older folks often on social security. It hasn't
transitioned yet to a more mixed age group for the most part.

On 10/31/2018 3:10 PM, l not -l wrote:
> On 31-Oct-2018, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>
>> On Wed 31 Oct 2018 07:33:45a, l not -l told us...
>>
>>>
>>> On 31-Oct-2018, jay > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>> For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the
>>>>> following and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me
>>>>> allows for additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes.
>>>>> The printouts include:
>>>>>
>>>>> Menu
>>>>>
>>>>> List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>>>>> doesn't actually have a recipe.
>>>>>
>>>>> List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>>>>>
>>>>> Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a
>>>>> prior day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many
>>>>> an issue when putting everything together. The best part of it
>>>>> is that I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in
>>>>> front of me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>>>>>
>>>> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG
>>>> meals for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey
>>>> dinner from the local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about
>>>> it all.
>>> I haven't done Thanksgiving dinner at home in many years; instead,
>>> I buy prepared turkey for my adult children to take and have with
>>> their mother. They have Sunday dinner with me most weeks and I
>>> like to help them have special dinners with her. With that in
>>> mind, last Thanksgiving I bought a deep fried turkey from Popeye's
>>> (the chicken chain) for them to take. Each year they bring me the
>>> carcass, after all have had their fill for dinner and for
>>> leftovers later in the week. Everyone thought the deep fried
>>> turkey was excellent, including me. I boiled the carcass down,
>>> after removing any big pieces that remained. The carcass made a
>>> very nice broth, which I froze separately from the meaty bits. A
>>> few months later, after all had recovered from holiday turkey
>>> excesses, I made turkey tetrazzini. In every way it was used, the
>>> deep fried turkey was a great success and I would be happy to buy
>>> another from Popeye's.
>>>
>>
>> This sounds like great plan for you, especially because you really
>> like turkey and know how to make the most of it. I, OTH, detest it
>> and can barely choke down one serving of it. :-) We're having a
>> home cooked dinner of roasted capon and all the fixins.
> Actually, I'm not particularly a fan of turkey; that is one of the reasons
> this works out great for me. 8-) I would much prefer capon or goose; but,
> family tradition says turkey for Thanksgiving.
>
> Once upon a time, before the regional bank I worked for was acquired by a
> much larger one, there was a company cafeteria. Every year, early in
> Thanksgiving week, the cafeteria prepared a full Thanksgiving dinner and
> served it, at no cost, to every employee, including overnight computer
> operations staff. As a manager, it was, if not expected, appropriate for me
> to have dinner and offer thanks for my staff and their efforts, on two
> shifts. Then, of course, my family had the traditional Thanksgiving dinner,
> at my parents and at my, then, wife's parents. Then, leftover turkey for
> what seemed weeks. This went on for years. I have never fully recovered
> from turkey-overload. But, I can manage to deal with a little of it,
> especially when using it for one of our Sunday family dinners, where I only
> have to eat part of it. 8-) So, capon sounds good to me.
>
> Though subject to change, perhaps several times between now and then, I
> think that I'll have a Saratoga rib eye, baked sweet potato, green beans
> amandine and a slice of apple pie with cheddar as my Thanksgiving dinner. I
> might even make the effort to locate a seller of Sarsparilla so I can crack
> open a cold one later in the day. There is much reason to be thankful.
>
Thanks for sharing that. I'll take the rib eye, medium rare please!
And a baked sweet potato and the beans.

I am not a fan of turkey. I've been turkeyed out too many times over
the years. Businesss/company dinners and family dinners. When I was
married we had to have dinner with my parents, then his parents, then
his grandparents, then his aunt's house and his uncle's house. Turkey,
turkey, turkey, more turkey.

My former MIL made the worst baked bread dressing ever. I don't know
how she managed it. It was soupy. She ran a spoon through it and it
parted like the Red Sea. <shudder> Her family loved it. I ate a
spoonful of it to be polite. It was difficult to hold back the gag
reflex. I did not ask for the recipe. LOL

Jill

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Cheri wrote:
>
>> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
>> > > On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> >>> For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the
>> following >>> and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me
>> allows for >>> additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes.
>> The printouts >>> include:
>> > > >
>> >>> Menu
>> > > >
>> >>> List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>> >>> doesn't actually have a recipe.
>> > > >
>> >>> List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>> > > >
>> >>> Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a
>> prior >>> day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>> > > >
>> >>> I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
>> >>> issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is
>> that >>> I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of
>> me.
>> > > >
>> >>> I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>> > > >
>> > > You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG
>> > > meals for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey
>> > > dinner from the local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about
>> > > it all.
>> > >
>> > > jay
>> >
>> > That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
>> > about his stuffing.
>> >
>> > We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
>> > organize it like Operation Overlord.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>>
>> I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance
>> either. Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well.
>> Holiday cooking doesn't really need to be complicated.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Here it all rather depends on how many will be served. In Japan, it
> was usualy just the 3 of us plus a sailor or 2 from our Sasebo ships
> and we'd get a little fancy with some aspects (or figuring out an
> alternative if the commissarry was out of something and shippage meant
> none would arrive before the holiday). Not too fancy though.
>
> Here we range from 24 to 3 guests depending on the year. We are
> shaping that now and looks like 8 guests (numbers will change up or
> down as we get closer). Thats 11 folks when you add us in. I can fit
> 2 10lb or so birds in the oven and if we hit 24 or so folks, the
> neighbors cook a ham to make the gap for the meats. As the group here
> expands (2007-current), folks bring a bit of what they can afford. If
> it's a small group, we handle it (and may get a gift of cookies or
> something for the group at the table).
>
> Before any think this is crazy, we live in an older neighborhood where
> almost all are either young folks with 1-2 toddlers trying to make a go
> with first home, and older folks often on social security. It hasn't
> transitioned yet to a more mixed age group for the most part.

The largest one I had was 24 people, this year there will just be the two of
us for Thanksgiving since we are scheduled for the Christmas celebration.

Cheri

"jay" > wrote in message news
> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>> For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
>> and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
>> additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
>> include:
>>
>> Menu
>>
>> List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>> doesn't actually have a recipe.
>>
>> List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>>
>> Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
>> day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>>
>> I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
>> issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
>> I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
>>
>> I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>>
> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals for
> the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the local
> cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.

We got a Boston Market meal one year. It was good but we would have liked
more food.

I mail ordered a meal one year. Was upset because it came with a whole
turkey and it was only supposed to be the breast. The meat was cooked but it
needed a reheat in the oven. I had no pan large enough. Bought a foil
roasting pan that turned out to be too flimsy. To make matters worse, I
pierced the pan with a knife when trying to slice it. I had a juicy mess in
the oven, all over the top of the stove, the floor.

The turkey tasted fine. There was just far too much of it. None of us are
big turkey lovers. One meal and perhaps leftovers for another are fine.

But the sides and the dessert? Not appealing. The potatoes had weird stuff
in them like egg whites and soy bean oil. I wound up tossing all of the
sides out as nobody ate any beyond the first bite. So... I paid a ton of
money for this meal and we all went hungry.

This year I'm going to do what I've done in years past. Get some cheap boxed
stuffing, then make it up with additional onion, carrot and celery to lessen
the carbs. I'll get some good quality sliced turkey breast with no nitrates.
Then roll the stuffing up in the slices of meat, smother in gravy and bake.
I can even assemble this the night before. I can then buy or make whatever
sides I choose. Last year I did a cheese platter. We all love cheese so that
went over well. And for whatever reason, everyone else loves crescent rolls.
I can live without those. I have also done a baked pumpkin dish that was
like a pie without a crust. I usually make two. One with pecans on top and
one without. Need to look at recipes and see if I can make this without egg.

There will likely only be four of us and we are casual diners so it will not
be a big deal.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/31/2018 3:10 PM, l not -l wrote:
>> On 31-Oct-2018, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 31 Oct 2018 07:33:45a, l not -l told us...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 31-Oct-2018, jay > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>>>>> For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the
>>>>>> following and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me
>>>>>> allows for additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes.
>>>>>> The printouts include:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Menu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>>>>>> doesn't actually have a recipe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a
>>>>>> prior day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many
>>>>>> an issue when putting everything together. The best part of it
>>>>>> is that I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in
>>>>>> front of me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG
>>>>> meals for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey
>>>>> dinner from the local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about
>>>>> it all.
>>>> I haven't done Thanksgiving dinner at home in many years; instead,
>>>> I buy prepared turkey for my adult children to take and have with
>>>> their mother. They have Sunday dinner with me most weeks and I
>>>> like to help them have special dinners with her. With that in
>>>> mind, last Thanksgiving I bought a deep fried turkey from Popeye's
>>>> (the chicken chain) for them to take. Each year they bring me the
>>>> carcass, after all have had their fill for dinner and for
>>>> leftovers later in the week. Everyone thought the deep fried
>>>> turkey was excellent, including me. I boiled the carcass down,
>>>> after removing any big pieces that remained. The carcass made a
>>>> very nice broth, which I froze separately from the meaty bits. A
>>>> few months later, after all had recovered from holiday turkey
>>>> excesses, I made turkey tetrazzini. In every way it was used, the
>>>> deep fried turkey was a great success and I would be happy to buy
>>>> another from Popeye's.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This sounds like great plan for you, especially because you really
>>> like turkey and know how to make the most of it. I, OTH, detest it
>>> and can barely choke down one serving of it. :-) We're having a
>>> home cooked dinner of roasted capon and all the fixins.
>> Actually, I'm not particularly a fan of turkey; that is one of the
>> reasons
>> this works out great for me. 8-) I would much prefer capon or goose;
>> but,
>> family tradition says turkey for Thanksgiving.
>>
>> Once upon a time, before the regional bank I worked for was acquired by a
>> much larger one, there was a company cafeteria. Every year, early in
>> Thanksgiving week, the cafeteria prepared a full Thanksgiving dinner and
>> served it, at no cost, to every employee, including overnight computer
>> operations staff. As a manager, it was, if not expected, appropriate for
>> me
>> to have dinner and offer thanks for my staff and their efforts, on two
>> shifts. Then, of course, my family had the traditional Thanksgiving
>> dinner,
>> at my parents and at my, then, wife's parents. Then, leftover turkey for
>> what seemed weeks. This went on for years. I have never fully recovered
>> from turkey-overload. But, I can manage to deal with a little of it,
>> especially when using it for one of our Sunday family dinners, where I
>> only
>> have to eat part of it. 8-) So, capon sounds good to me.
>>
>> Though subject to change, perhaps several times between now and then, I
>> think that I'll have a Saratoga rib eye, baked sweet potato, green beans
>> amandine and a slice of apple pie with cheddar as my Thanksgiving dinner.
>> I
>> might even make the effort to locate a seller of Sarsparilla so I can
>> crack
>> open a cold one later in the day. There is much reason to be thankful.
>>
> Thanks for sharing that. I'll take the rib eye, medium rare please! And a
> baked sweet potato and the beans.
>
> I am not a fan of turkey. I've been turkeyed out too many times over the
> years. Businesss/company dinners and family dinners. When I was married
> we had to have dinner with my parents, then his parents, then his
> grandparents, then his aunt's house and his uncle's house. Turkey,
> turkey, turkey, more turkey.
>
> My former MIL made the worst baked bread dressing ever. I don't know how
> she managed it. It was soupy. She ran a spoon through it and it parted
> like the Red Sea. <shudder> Her family loved it. I ate a spoonful of it
> to be polite. It was difficult to hold back the gag reflex. I did not
> ask for the recipe. LOL

We never had stuffing until Stovetop came out with it. I didn't care for it
too much. I'll eat it now but not often. But... I always add extra veggies
to help lighten it up.

My brother is a picky eater but his favorite meal was and probably still is
turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, corn and rolls. Thankfully we always had
a green salad and a relish tray to go with. I ate mainly the salad and
relishes. Maybe a piece of cheese, mashed potatoes and just a bite of the
turkey and stuffing. We probably only had this meal 3-4 times a year but
that was more than enough for me. Especially after trying to use up all of
those leftovers. The only way I've found I can do leftover turkey is in a
casserole with stuffing or wild rice. I don't like it in soup, tetrazzini,
salad, etc.

Then when we moved to the East coast, I was overloaded with turkey. Because
my FIL had a business, he was always getting free turkeys. He gave away as
many as he could but he still had to take a lot home. My poor MIL tried
every which way to try to use all of that turkey. I pretty much got sick of
it.

"Cheri" > wrote in message
news
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
>>> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
>>> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
>>> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
>>> > include:
>>> >
>>> > Menu
>>> >
>>> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>>> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
>>> >
>>> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>>> >
>>> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
>>> > day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>>> >
>>> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
>>> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
>>> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
>>> >
>>> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>>> >
>>> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
>>> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
>>> local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
>>>
>>> jay
>>
>> That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
>> about his stuffing.
>>
>> We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
>> organize it like Operation Overlord.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance either.
> Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well. Holiday
> cooking doesn't really need to be complicated.

The only time I felt the need to do that was when I was cooking for a lot of
people and having to come up with essentially two or three different meals
at a time due to medical problems, toddlers or food dislikes. Then I finally
hit on one meal that everyone would eat. Problem solved.

When I was growing up, we often ate holiday meals out because my mom hated
to cook. But when she did cook, it was always a stress filled mess.

She would always cook the turkey the night before and then carve it and
reheat it in the oven, which ensured it would be tough and dried out. We had
scratch mashed potatoes until she discovered Betty Crocker and then we had
instant. Also yams with marshmallow topping. Cranberry salad. Jell-O salad.
Cranberry bread. Brown and Serve rolls. Gravy from a packet. Canned corn.
Green salad.

Prior to dinner we had Fritos and bean dip, mixed nuts, a cheese plate, and
a relish plate. Usually the cheese and relish plate made it to the table
too.

Dessert was usually a frozen carrot cake, served frozen with frozen Cool
Whip. More cranberry bread, fudge. Sometimes divinity. I'm sure there were
other things but I didn't pay much attention because I always scooted the
relish tray in front of me and had at it while they ate dessert.

And every year, my mom forgot to put the Jell-O salad on the table. Why she
even made it, I do not know.

The meal was never enjoyable and we were not feeling thankful at all. Reason
being, there was so much screaming and carrying on as the meal was being
prepared. She enlisted everyone's help but micromanaged everything we did.
And we had to do everything exactly as she said, including whipping the
potatoes very well, despite the box saying not to whip. The addition of a
microwave for some reason only made things worse. The food was never all
ready at once and at some point, she would start shrieking and telling us to
sit down and begin eating what we had. This never worked because we wouldn't
have butter or gravy or some other thing that we really needed and she
wouldn't let us go into the kitchen. She also wound up burning at least one
thing after we cleared out of there.

Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make what
I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually taste
good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to figure
out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good food.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message news

"Cheri" > wrote in message
news
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 at 8:20:41 AM UTC-4, jay wrote:
>>> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> > For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
>>> > and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
>>> > additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
>>> > include:
>>> >
>>> > Menu
>>> >
>>> > List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>>> > doesn't actually have a recipe.
>>> >
>>> > List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>>> >
>>> > Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
>>> > day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>>> >
>>> > I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
>>> > issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
>>> > I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
>>> >
>>> > I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>>> >
>>> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals
>>> for the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the
>>> local cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
>>>
>>> jay
>>
>> That wouldn't fly in our house--my husband is very particular
>> about his stuffing.
>>
>> We make turkey, stuffing, gravy, and tossed salad. No need to
>> organize it like Operation Overlord.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>
> I've never felt the need to "organize" or make lists in advance either.
> Traditional meal like yours, maybe a pie, cake etc. as well. Holiday
> cooking doesn't really need to be complicated.

The only time I felt the need to do that was when I was cooking for a lot of
people and having to come up with essentially two or three different meals
at a time due to medical problems, toddlers or food dislikes. Then I finally
hit on one meal that everyone would eat. Problem solved.

When I was growing up, we often ate holiday meals out because my mom hated
to cook. But when she did cook, it was always a stress filled mess.

She would always cook the turkey the night before and then carve it and
reheat it in the oven, which ensured it would be tough and dried out. We had
scratch mashed potatoes until she discovered Betty Crocker and then we had
instant. Also yams with marshmallow topping. Cranberry salad. Jell-O salad.
Cranberry bread. Brown and Serve rolls. Gravy from a packet. Canned corn.
Green salad.

Prior to dinner we had Fritos and bean dip, mixed nuts, a cheese plate, and
a relish plate. Usually the cheese and relish plate made it to the table
too.

Dessert was usually a frozen carrot cake, served frozen with frozen Cool
Whip. More cranberry bread, fudge. Sometimes divinity. I'm sure there were
other things but I didn't pay much attention because I always scooted the
relish tray in front of me and had at it while they ate dessert.

And every year, my mom forgot to put the Jell-O salad on the table. Why she
even made it, I do not know.

The meal was never enjoyable and we were not feeling thankful at all. Reason
being, there was so much screaming and carrying on as the meal was being
prepared. She enlisted everyone's help but micromanaged everything we did.
And we had to do everything exactly as she said, including whipping the
potatoes very well, despite the box saying not to whip. The addition of a
microwave for some reason only made things worse. The food was never all
ready at once and at some point, she would start shrieking and telling us to
sit down and begin eating what we had. This never worked because we wouldn't
have butter or gravy or some other thing that we really needed and she
wouldn't let us go into the kitchen. She also wound up burning at least one
thing after we cleared out of there.

Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make what
I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually taste
good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to figure
out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good food.

==

Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry. Be
thankful for small mercies

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news

> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
> what
> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually taste
> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to figure
> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
> food.
>
> ==
>
> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
> Be thankful for small mercies


For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
crowds, everything always tasted good.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news

> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
> what
> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually taste
> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to figure
> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
> food.
>
> ==
>
> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
> Be thankful for small mercies


For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
crowds, everything always tasted good.

Cheri

==

Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all

On 11/1/2018 8:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove"* wrote in message news
>
>> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
>> what
>> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
>> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually
>> taste
>> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to
>> figure
>> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
>> food.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went
>> hungry. Be thankful for small mercies
>
>
> For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
> spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made
> the day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking
> for crowds, everything always tasted good.
>
> Cheri

My mother always managed to burn the dinner rolls at holiday meals (the
only time we had them). It became a running joke in the family. Wasn't
a holiday unless the rolls were burnt!

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 11/1/2018 8:42 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>
>> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
>> what
>> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
>> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually
>> taste
>> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to
>> figure
>> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
>> food.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
>> Be thankful for small mercies
>
>
> For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
> spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
> day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
> crowds, everything always tasted good.
>
> Cheri

My mother always managed to burn the dinner rolls at holiday meals (the
only time we had them). It became a running joke in the family. Wasn't
a holiday unless the rolls were burnt!

Jill

==

We always went to my Grandma's) Heavenly)

Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> "jay" > wrote in message news
>> On 10/30/18 6:42 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>> For both Thanksgiving and Christms I always print out the following
>>> and put in a ring binder. Having that in front of me allows for
>>> additions, deletions, and miscellaneous other notes. The printouts
>>> include:
>>>
>>> Menu
>>>
>>> List of every recipe, or instructions for making something that
>>> doesn't actually have a recipe.
>>>
>>> List of ingredients for each recipe. Shopping list included.
>>>
>>> Timetable for everything that has to be made, whether it's on a prior
>>> day or time of day that anything has to be cooked.
>>>
>>> I've been doing this for years, and it has saved me from many an
>>> issue when putting everything together. The best part of it is that
>>> I don't havae to think about it. It's all there in front of me.
>>>
>>> I wonder if any of this would work for anyone else?
>>>
>> You are very organized. Me not so much. Do you cook separate TG meals for
>> the two of you? May try a prepared take out turkey dinner from the local
>> cafeteria chain. Feeling kinda lazy about it all.
>
> We got a Boston Market meal one year. It was good but we would have liked
> more food.
>
> I mail ordered a meal one year. Was upset because it came with a whole
> turkey and it was only supposed to be the breast. The meat was cooked but it
> needed a reheat in the oven. I had no pan large enough. Bought a foil
> roasting pan that turned out to be too flimsy. To make matters worse, I
> pierced the pan with a knife when trying to slice it. I had a juicy mess in
> the oven, all over the top of the stove, the floor.
>
> The turkey tasted fine. There was just far too much of it. None of us are
> big turkey lovers. One meal and perhaps leftovers for another are fine.
>
> But the sides and the dessert? Not appealing. The potatoes had weird stuff
> in them like egg whites and soy bean oil. I wound up tossing all of the
> sides out as nobody ate any beyond the first bite. So... I paid a ton of
> money for this meal and we all went hungry.
>
> This year I'm going to do what I've done in years past. Get some cheap boxed
> stuffing, then make it up with additional onion, carrot and celery to lessen
> the carbs. I'll get some good quality sliced turkey breast with no nitrates.
> Then roll the stuffing up in the slices of meat, smother in gravy and bake.
> I can even assemble this the night before. I can then buy or make whatever
> sides I choose. Last year I did a cheese platter. We all love cheese so that
> went over well. And for whatever reason, everyone else loves crescent rolls.
> I can live without those. I have also done a baked pumpkin dish that was
> like a pie without a crust. I usually make two. One with pecans on top and
> one without. Need to look at recipes and see if I can make this without egg.
>
> There will likely only be four of us and we are casual diners so it will not
> be a big deal.
>
>

If ever there is a next time, put the flimsy disposable roasting pan on top
of a jelly roll pan or cookie sheet.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> We got a Boston Market meal one year. It was good but we would have liked
> more food.
>
> I mail ordered a meal one year. Was upset because it came with a whole
> turkey and it was only supposed to be the breast. The meat was cooked but it
> needed a reheat in the oven. I had no pan large enough. Bought a foil
> roasting pan that turned out to be too flimsy. To make matters worse, I
> pierced the pan with a knife when trying to slice it. I had a juicy mess in
> the oven, all over the top of the stove, the floor.

I usually buy a foil roasting pan, but you *always* put it on a
cookie sheet or more. Save from spills like you have but also
easier to remove from oven when it's hot.


> The turkey tasted fine. There was just far too much of it. None of us are
> big turkey lovers. One meal and perhaps leftovers for another are fine.

Always clear freezer space before a big holiday meal. Cooking
101.
Frozen leftovers last a long time.

> But the sides and the dessert? Not appealing. The potatoes had weird stuff
> in them like egg whites and soy bean oil. I wound up tossing all of the
> sides out as nobody ate any beyond the first bite. So... I paid a ton of
> money for this meal and we all went hungry.

You claim you love to cook. WTH do you not cook the entire meal
yourself? That way you can cook just what everyone wants and
likes.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message news

>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
>> Be thankful for small mercies
>
>
> For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
> spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
> day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
> crowds, everything always tasted good.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all

True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most things. LOL

Cheri

"jmcquown" > wrote in message news:XsDCD.271925]

> My mother always managed to burn the dinner rolls at holiday meals (the
> only time we had them). It became a running joke in the family. Wasn't a
> holiday unless the rolls were burnt!
>
> Jill


My mom was famous for saving every little bit of leftover food and storing
it covered in the fridge until it was totally unrecognizable. It became a
running joke that people would ask her, "should we throw this out now
Ruthie, or put it in the fridge and forget it until nobody knows what it
is." Great memories though. LOL

Cheri

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 13:07:23 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Cheri" wrote in message news >
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>
>> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
>> what
>> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
>> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually taste
>> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to figure
>> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
>> food.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
>> Be thankful for small mercies
>
>
>For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
>spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
>day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
>crowds, everything always tasted good.
>
>Cheri
>
>==
>
>Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all

I also remember all the the good times with a house filled with
people, but alas as I've gotten older there's practically no one left;
grand parents long gone, parents gone too, as well as aunts, uncles,
and most cousins... even most childhood friends are gone, and the
remaining handful are far away and in nursing homes. This morning my
wife left for Lung Guyland, last night her brother was placed into
hospice, agent orange put him on borrowed minutes.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...

> My mother always managed to burn the dinner rolls at holiday meals (the
> only time we had them). It became a running joke in the family. Wasn't
> a holiday unless the rolls were burnt!
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> We always went to my Grandma's) Heavenly)


My grandma and uncle lived with us for most of our lives, that was
wonderful.

Cheri

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:33:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>
>>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
>>> Be thankful for small mercies
>>
>>
>> For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
>> spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
>> day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
>> crowds, everything always tasted good.
>>
>> Cheri
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>
>True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most things. LOL

Are you bitching again? Try and focus on something positive. Is there
any Cool Whip in your near future, for instance?

> wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 13:07:23 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Cheri" wrote in message news >>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>>
>>> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
>>> what
>>> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I
>>> buy
>>> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually
>>> taste
>>> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to
>>> figure
>>> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
>>> food.
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
>>> Be thankful for small mercies
>>
>>
>>For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
>>spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
>>day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
>>crowds, everything always tasted good.
>>
>>Cheri
>>
>>==
>>
>>Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>
> I also remember all the the good times with a house filled with
> people, but alas as I've gotten older there's practically no one left;
> grand parents long gone, parents gone too, as well as aunts, uncles,
> and most cousins... even most childhood friends are gone, and the
> remaining handful are far away and in nursing homes. This morning my
> wife left for Lung Guyland, last night her brother was placed into
> hospice, agent orange put him on borrowed minutes.


I agree Sheldon, none of the old people that make those memories wonderful
are still alive. I only hope I have created good memories for my descendants
too now that I am "the old people." As an aside, I am sorry to hear about
your BIL.

Cheri

"Brice" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:33:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cheri" wrote in message news
>>
>>>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went
>>>> hungry.
>>>> Be thankful for small mercies
>>>
>>>
>>> For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
>>> spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made
>>> the
>>> day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
>>> crowds, everything always tasted good.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>>
>>True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most things.
>>LOL
>
> Are you bitching again? Try and focus on something positive. Is there
> any Cool Whip in your near future, for instance?


I will try to focus on something positive which involves not reading you for
awhile. LOL

Cheri

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:01:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Brice" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:33:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>>>
>>>True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most things.
>>>LOL
>>
>> Are you bitching again? Try and focus on something positive. Is there
>> any Cool Whip in your near future, for instance?
>
>
>I will try to focus on something positive which involves not reading you for
>awhile. LOL

Oh no!

"Brice" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:01:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Brice" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:33:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>
>>>>> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>>>>
>>>>True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most things.
>>>>LOL
>>>
>>> Are you bitching again? Try and focus on something positive. Is there
>>> any Cool Whip in your near future, for instance?
>>
>>
>>I will try to focus on something positive which involves not reading you
>>for
>>awhile. LOL
>
> Oh no!


Ha ha.

On 11/1/2018 10:27 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Brice" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:01:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:33:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>>>>>
>>>>> True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most things.
>>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> Are you bitching again? Try and focus on something positive. Is there
>>>> any Cool Whip in your near future, for instance?
>>>
>>>
>>> I will try to focus on something positive which involves not reading you
>>> for
>>> awhile. LOL
>>
>> Oh no!
>
>
> Ha ha.
>

you two should get a room.

"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
news
> On 11/1/2018 10:27 AM, Cheri wrote:
>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:01:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:33:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you bitching again? Try and focus on something positive. Is there
>>>>> any Cool Whip in your near future, for instance?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will try to focus on something positive which involves not reading
>>>> you
>>>> for
>>>> awhile. LOL
>>>
>>> Oh no!
>>
>>
>> Ha ha.
>>
>
> you two should get a room.


I assume you are in yours alone and it's padded.

Cheri

On Thu, 01 Nov 2018 10:27:59 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> We got a Boston Market meal one year. It was good but we would have liked
>> more food.
>>
>> I mail ordered a meal one year. Was upset because it came with a whole
>> turkey and it was only supposed to be the breast. The meat was cooked but it
>> needed a reheat in the oven. I had no pan large enough. Bought a foil
>> roasting pan that turned out to be too flimsy. To make matters worse, I
>> pierced the pan with a knife when trying to slice it. I had a juicy mess in
>> the oven, all over the top of the stove, the floor.
>
>I usually buy a foil roasting pan, but you *always* put it on a
>cookie sheet or more. Save from spills like you have but also
>easier to remove from oven when it's hot.

Those foil pans are totally useless - and dangerous - for the longest
time now steel roasting pans with a non-stick coating have been
available for cheap.
https://www.amazon.com/casaWare-Gran...p+roasting+pan

>> The turkey tasted fine. There was just far too much of it. None of us are
>> big turkey lovers. One meal and perhaps leftovers for another are fine.
>
>Always clear freezer space before a big holiday meal. Cooking
>101.
>Frozen leftovers last a long time.
>
>> But the sides and the dessert? Not appealing. The potatoes had weird stuff
>> in them like egg whites and soy bean oil. I wound up tossing all of the
>> sides out as nobody ate any beyond the first bite. So... I paid a ton of
>> money for this meal and we all went hungry.
>
>You claim you love to cook. WTH do you not cook the entire meal
>yourself? That way you can cook just what everyone wants and
>likes.

On 11/1/2018 10:34 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 11/1/2018 10:27 AM, Cheri wrote:
>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 10:01:23 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brice" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:33:31 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> True, and some simply enjoy bitching and complaining about most
>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you bitching again? Try and focus on something positive. Is there
>>>>>> any Cool Whip in your near future, for instance?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will try to focus on something positive which involves not reading
>>>>> you
>>>>> for
>>>>> awhile. LOL
>>>>
>>>> Oh no!
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha ha.
>>>
>>
>> you two should get a room.
>
>
> I assume you are in yours alone and it's padded.
>
> Cheri
>


Oh sweetie - I see it takes no effort at all to win over your heart!

wrote in message ...

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 13:07:23 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Cheri" wrote in message news >
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news
>
>> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
>> what
>> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I buy
>> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually
>> taste
>> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to
>> figure
>> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
>> food.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
>> Be thankful for small mercies
>
>
>For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
>spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
>day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
>crowds, everything always tasted good.
>
>Cheri
>
>==
>
>Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all

I also remember all the the good times with a house filled with
people, but alas as I've gotten older there's practically no one left;
grand parents long gone, parents gone too, as well as aunts, uncles,
and most cousins... even most childhood friends are gone, and the
remaining handful are far away and in nursing homes. This morning my
wife left for Lung Guyland, last night her brother was placed into
hospice, agent orange put him on borrowed minutes.

==

I am so sorry

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...

> My mother always managed to burn the dinner rolls at holiday meals (the
> only time we had them). It became a running joke in the family. Wasn't
> a holiday unless the rolls were burnt!
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> We always went to my Grandma's) Heavenly)


My grandma and uncle lived with us for most of our lives, that was
wonderful.

Cheri

==

Ohhhh I would have loved that!!!!

On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 09:59:29 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2018 13:07:23 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Cheri" wrote in message news >>>
>>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message news >>>
>>>> Memories like that are what make me try hard to keep it simple. I make
>>>> what
>>>> I can ahead of time and if I can find something to buy that's good, I
>>>> buy
>>>> it. I finally found some good pre-made mashed potatoes that actually
>>>> taste
>>>> good. Just potatoes, cream, butter, salt and pepper. Need to try to
>>>> figure
>>>> out where I bought those. I'd rather have less variety, but still good
>>>> food.
>>>>
>>>> ==
>>>>
>>>> Well, she might not have enjoyed cooking, but you all never went hungry.
>>>> Be thankful for small mercies
>>>
>>>
>>>For sure. I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
>>>spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
>>>day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
>>>crowds, everything always tasted good.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>>
>>>==
>>>
>>>Aye, some of us were lucky, but unfortunately, not all
>>
>> I also remember all the the good times with a house filled with
>> people, but alas as I've gotten older there's practically no one left;
>> grand parents long gone, parents gone too, as well as aunts, uncles,
>> and most cousins... even most childhood friends are gone, and the
>> remaining handful are far away and in nursing homes. This morning my
>> wife left for Lung Guyland, last night her brother was placed into
>> hospice, agent orange put him on borrowed minutes.
>
>
>I agree Sheldon, none of the old people that make those memories wonderful
>are still alive. I only hope I have created good memories for my descendants
>too now that I am "the old people." As an aside, I am sorry to hear about
>your BIL.
>
>Cheri

Thank you. His four purple hearts are only a small token.

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 4:15:43 AM UTC-5, Ju-Ju blabbered:
>
> I mail ordered a meal one year. Was upset because it came with a whole
> turkey and it was only supposed to be the breast. The meat was cooked but it
> needed a reheat in the oven. I had no pan large enough. Bought a foil
> roasting pan that turned out to be too flimsy.
>
Most normal-brained people know those foil roasting pans are flimsy, especially
with a turkey adding to the weight. Normal-brained people know to put a cookie
sheet (aka rolled edge pan) under the foil pan to give it some stability.
>
> To make matters worse, I
> pierced the pan with a knife when trying to slice it. I had a juicy mess in
> the oven, all over the top of the stove, the floor.
>
Ding-ding-ding!!! They have these great kitchen equipment items known as
carving/cutting boards. They prevent idiots from piercing a thin foil
roasting pan with a knife. Just an fyi.
>
> The turkey tasted fine. There was just far too much of it. None of us are
> big turkey lovers. One meal and perhaps leftovers for another are fine.
>
> But the sides and the dessert? Not appealing. The potatoes had weird stuff
> in them like egg whites and soy bean oil. I wound up tossing all of the
> sides out as nobody ate any beyond the first bite. So... I paid a ton of
> money for this meal and we all went hungry.
>
Because you are too stupid to cook a small, simple meal.
>
> This year I'm going to do what I've done in years past. Get some cheap boxed
> stuffing, then make it up with additional onion, carrot and celery to lessen
> the carbs. I'll get some good quality sliced turkey breast with no nitrates.
> Then roll the stuffing up in the slices of meat, smother in gravy and bake.
> I can even assemble this the night before. I can then buy or make whatever
> sides I choose.
>
I beat nobody is knocking on your door wanting in to consume that mess.
>
> There will likely only be four of us and we are casual diners so it will not
> be a big deal.
>
You, daughter, ex-husband, and the gigolo?? Or you, daughter, gigolo and one
of his goats?

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 7:42:40 AM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> I'll never stop missing all the holiday times our whole family
> spent together, the food was part of it, but the people were what made the
> day. My mom and grandma were really great at cooking and at cooking for
> crowds, everything always tasted good.
>
> Cheri
>
For sure! Family members that are no longer alive are greatly missed but
keenly felt when there is a big family get together.

My mom and her sisters were all great cooks as were my dad's sisters.
Thankfully, sisters-in-law are too, for the most part.

On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 8:46:35 AM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> My mother always managed to burn the dinner rolls at holiday meals (the
> only time we had them). It became a running joke in the family. Wasn't
> a holiday unless the rolls were burnt!
>
> Jill
>
A friends mother would burn the rolls every single time there was a big family
get together. I don't know why as she had a stove timer but someone was finally
given the task of overseeing the rolls. No more burned bottoms, yay!!