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On 11/6/2018 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "Terry Coombs"* wrote in message news 
>> On 11/4/2018 9:14 AM, graham wrote: >> On 2018-11-04 7:05 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:48:46 -0500, Terry Coombs > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/3/2018 8:05 PM, graham wrote: >>>>> On 2018-11-03 4:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: >>> >>>>>> ** Please tell me you did NOT put your honey in the microwave ... >>>>>> that >>>>>> will kill all the beneficial properties of the honey . >>>>> >>>>> Old wive's tale! >>>> >>>> ** OK , it's an old wives tale and we beekeepers know nothing about it >>>> .* You go right ahead and nuke your honey . Mine will never see temps >>>> above about a hundred degrees - the highest temp usually seen inside a >>>> hive . Oh wait , what you've got is probably not even real honey , but >>>> flavored corn syrup . Nuke away ! >>> >>> >>> Most honey sold in the US is pasteurized, anyway. And filtered. >>> >>> Besides, very few eat enough honey to make any nutritional difference >>> in diet, even if the enzymes, bee pollen, etc are still there. >>> >> My point was that nuking (at low level) is no different to sitting >> the jar in hot water. Some seem to associate microwave radiation with >> nuclear. > > * Science isn't your strong suit is it ? Look it up if you doubt me > ,but microwaves ARE radiation - of a certain frequency , or wavelength . > So are X-rays and Gamma rays and visible light . ALL are > "electromagnetic radiation" . Now , about the honey . Because of the way > microwaves heat , that is by molecular excitation , they destroy the > organic and microbiological stuff in honey . We eat enough to make a > difference , my wife has cut way back on antihistamines and other > sinus/allergy medications . I never took much , now don't take any at > all . > > > *Snag > > ==== > > That is wonderful!!* Whatever anyone else says, it is working on your > and your wife's health! > > It is different for you because you are getting your honey fresh. How > do the jars compare? > > Just to let you know, I won't be microwaving it any more  > > Good for you ! The honey you buy off the shelf at the grocery store has a passing resemblance to fresh local honey ... read the label ! There are many "honey products" out there that have been cut with HFCS and have other chemicals added "as preservatives" . Natural honey needs no preservatives .* To get any allergen benefits , the honey must be local and unfiltered so it has the same pollens as what you're exposed to . -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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Cheri > wrote:
> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message > news >> Cheri > wrote: >>> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message >>> news
>>>> Pamela > wrote:>>>>> On 00:37 5 Nov 2018, Jinx the Minx > wrote in >>>>> news
>>>>> >>>>>> John Kuthe > wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 10:16:50 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote: >>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>> OK, so how do you know that it was only bad once? Is he testing >>>>>>>> every day? Two hours after meals for instance? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Uh oh! All of a sudden, Cheri is an EXPERT in diabetic nursing! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And Cheri, I'll let you know I did my elective in diabetic nursing, >>>>>>> so if you need to know anything in that area of nursing just ask me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do they consider an OK A1c in the >>>>>>>> UK for annual test? Not trying to be a smart aleck, just curious. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7 is the norm for an A1c level in the U.S. I don't know about >>>>>>> anywhere else. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 7 is considered diabetic in the U.S. >>>>> >>>>> Some sites sites say anything over 6.5 is diabetic. It's worrying >>>>> someone like John who claims to have trained in diabetic nursing >>>>> doesn't >>>>> know that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I agree, the threshold is much lower than 7. I just called out 7 since >>>> thats the value JK said was the norm. Its little wonder >>>> how >>>> medical >>>> errors are the third leading cause of death in the U.S. >>> >>> My doc, fairly young from India, wants to have type 2's shoot for 6.5 or >>> lower with the A1c, even into the 5's ideally. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> >>> >> >> Im no doctor but I am a T2, and I agree with that! My last A1C was 5.4. >> > > > Great to hear, and good for you. I have never achieved under 6, but I know > some who have. > > Cheri > > I used to be on multiple types of insulin, and now I take no meds for it at all. I use very, very strict diet control. |
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On 2018-11-07 10:17 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 11/5/2018 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >> Again, most commercial honey sold is pasteurized, so are you trying to >> say that raw honey is somehow intrinsically healthier and not only >> better for you in some way, but that it mitigates allergies, too? >> Nonsense. >> >> >> >> >> >> > * Raw unfiltered honey contains microorganisms and compounds proven to > be beneficial to people . And yes , local honey does have a mitigating > effect on allergic reactions due to pollen . Pasteurized and > hot-filtered (yes , they heat it to thin it so it passes thru the > filters more easily) honey has none of these benefits . Believe what you > want , those are the facts . > You still haven't identified the specific microorganisms and compounds that are beneficial to humans, how they benefit us and what effect nuking honey has on us. You were outraged that anyone would nuke honey or heat it up a lot but you have acknowledged that those alleged benefits have already been lost of the honey has been pasteurized. The vast majority of honey on the market has been pasteurized, so any of the damage that you are talking about happening from heating has already been done. |
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"Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message
news > Cheri > wrote: >> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message >> news >>> Cheri > wrote: >>>> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message >>>> news
>>>>> Pamela > wrote:>>>>>> On 00:37 5 Nov 2018, Jinx the Minx > wrote in >>>>>> news
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Kuthe > wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 10:16:50 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote: >>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> OK, so how do you know that it was only bad once? Is he testing >>>>>>>>> every day? Two hours after meals for instance? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Uh oh! All of a sudden, Cheri is an EXPERT in diabetic nursing! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And Cheri, I'll let you know I did my elective in diabetic nursing, >>>>>>>> so if you need to know anything in that area of nursing just ask >>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do they consider an OK A1c in the >>>>>>>>> UK for annual test? Not trying to be a smart aleck, just curious. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 7 is the norm for an A1c level in the U.S. I don't know about >>>>>>>> anywhere else. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7 is considered diabetic in the U.S. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some sites sites say anything over 6.5 is diabetic. It's worrying >>>>>> someone like John who claims to have trained in diabetic nursing >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> know that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree, the threshold is much lower than 7. I just called out 7 >>>>> since >>>>> thats the value JK said was the norm. Its little wonder >>>>> how >>>>> medical >>>>> errors are the third leading cause of death in the U.S. >>>> >>>> My doc, fairly young from India, wants to have type 2's shoot for 6.5 >>>> or >>>> lower with the A1c, even into the 5's ideally. >>>> >>>> Cheri >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Im no doctor but I am a T2, and I agree with that! My last A1C was >>> 5.4. >>> >> >> >> Great to hear, and good for you. I have never achieved under 6, but I >> know >> some who have. >> >> Cheri >> >> > > I used to be on multiple types of insulin, and now I take no meds for it > at > all. I use very, very strict diet control. > I have been diagnosed for 21 years and did use metformin and insulin for awhile in the first phase, but then did find diet control. My doc at that time didn't really have a clue about the importance of diet in diabetic control. I have used no meds for many years now, just diet. I stay right around 6. Cheri Cheri |
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Cheri > wrote:
> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message > news >> Cheri > wrote: >>> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message >>> news
>>>> Cheri > wrote:>>>>> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message >>>>> news
>>>>>> Pamela > wrote:>>>>>>> On 00:37 5 Nov 2018, Jinx the Minx > wrote in >>>>>>> news
>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Kuthe > wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 10:16:50 AM UTC-6, Cheri wrote: >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>> OK, so how do you know that it was only bad once? Is he testing >>>>>>>>>> every day? Two hours after meals for instance? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Uh oh! All of a sudden, Cheri is an EXPERT in diabetic nursing! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And Cheri, I'll let you know I did my elective in diabetic nursing, >>>>>>>>> so if you need to know anything in that area of nursing just ask >>>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What do they consider an OK A1c in the >>>>>>>>>> UK for annual test? Not trying to be a smart aleck, just curious. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheri >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 7 is the norm for an A1c level in the U.S. I don't know about >>>>>>>>> anywhere else. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 7 is considered diabetic in the U.S. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some sites sites say anything over 6.5 is diabetic. It's worrying >>>>>>> someone like John who claims to have trained in diabetic nursing >>>>>>> doesn't >>>>>>> know that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree, the threshold is much lower than 7. I just called out 7 >>>>>> since >>>>>> thats the value JK said was the norm. Its little wonder >>>>>> how >>>>>> medical >>>>>> errors are the third leading cause of death in the U.S. >>>>> >>>>> My doc, fairly young from India, wants to have type 2's shoot for 6.5 >>>>> or >>>>> lower with the A1c, even into the 5's ideally. >>>>> >>>>> Cheri >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Im no doctor but I am a T2, and I agree with that! My last A1C was >>>> 5.4. >>>> >>> >>> >>> Great to hear, and good for you. I have never achieved under 6, but I >>> know >>> some who have. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> >> >> I used to be on multiple types of insulin, and now I take no meds for it >> at >> all. I use very, very strict diet control. >> > > > I have been diagnosed for 21 years and did use metformin and insulin for > awhile in the first phase, but then did find diet control. My doc at that > time didn't really have a clue about the importance of diet in diabetic > control. I have used no meds for many years now, just diet. I stay right > around 6. > > Cheri > > Cheri > > I was diagnosed about 15+ years ago in my early 30s. Ive treated it with various oral meds, byetta, and insulin. When I then got pregnant, sh*t really hit the fan. The single best thing I did for myself was lose all my extra weight and learn how to eat differently. I do have a prescription I can take as needed with high carb meals, but I havent taken it in years. I dont even carry it with me anymore. My solution is to just not eat high carb meals. Or even recommended carb levels, for that matter. |
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"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
On 11/6/2018 4:09 AM, Ophelia wrote: > > > "Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
>> On 11/4/2018 9:14 AM, graham wrote: >> On 2018-11-04 7:05 AM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 21:48:46 -0500, Terry Coombs > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/3/2018 8:05 PM, graham wrote: >>>>> On 2018-11-03 4:57 PM, Terry Coombs wrote: >>> >>>>>> Please tell me you did NOT put your honey in the microwave ... >>>>>> that >>>>>> will kill all the beneficial properties of the honey . >>>>> >>>>> Old wive's tale! >>>> >>>> OK , it's an old wives tale and we beekeepers know nothing about it >>>> . You go right ahead and nuke your honey . Mine will never see temps >>>> above about a hundred degrees - the highest temp usually seen inside a >>>> hive . Oh wait , what you've got is probably not even real honey , but >>>> flavored corn syrup . Nuke away ! >>> >>> >>> Most honey sold in the US is pasteurized, anyway. And filtered. >>> >>> Besides, very few eat enough honey to make any nutritional difference >>> in diet, even if the enzymes, bee pollen, etc are still there. >>> >> My point was that nuking (at low level) is no different to sitting the >> jar in hot water. Some seem to associate microwave radiation with >> nuclear. > > Science isn't your strong suit is it ? Look it up if you doubt me > ,but microwaves ARE radiation - of a certain frequency , or wavelength . > So are X-rays and Gamma rays and visible light . ALL are > "electromagnetic radiation" . Now , about the honey . Because of the way > microwaves heat , that is by molecular excitation , they destroy the > organic and microbiological stuff in honey . We eat enough to make a > difference , my wife has cut way back on antihistamines and other > sinus/allergy medications . I never took much , now don't take any at all > . > > > Snag > > ==== > > That is wonderful!! Whatever anyone else says, it is working on your and > your wife's health! > > It is different for you because you are getting your honey fresh. How do > the jars compare? > > Just to let you know, I won't be microwaving it any more > > Good for you ! The honey you buy off the shelf at the grocery store has a passing resemblance to fresh local honey ... read the label ! There are many "honey products" out there that have been cut with HFCS and have other chemicals added "as preservatives" . Natural honey needs no preservatives . To get any allergen benefits , the honey must be local and unfiltered so it has the same pollens as what you're exposed to . Snag === I don't know of any local bee keepers  I will inspect the jars when I buy them. |
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:17:47 -0600, Terry Coombs >
wrote: >On 11/5/2018 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:48:02 -0600, Terry Coombs > >> wrote: >> >>> Now , about the honey . Because of the way >>> microwaves heat , that is by molecular excitation , they destroy the >>> organic and microbiological stuff in honey . We eat enough to make a >>> difference , my wife has cut way back on antihistamines and other >>> sinus/allergy medications . I never took much , now don't take any at all . >> >> "...they destroy the organic and microbiological stuff in honey. " >> What exactly does that mean and why is it a negative? >> >> Again, most commercial honey sold is pasteurized, so are you trying to >> say that raw honey is somehow intrinsically healthier and not only >> better for you in some way, but that it mitigates allergies, too? >> Nonsense. >> >> >> >> >> >> > * Raw unfiltered honey contains microorganisms and compounds proven to >be beneficial to people . At what levels? And how do those levels vary from hive to hive or area to area or batch to batch? What specific microorganism and compounds are you claiming? Name them and the amounts that raw unfiltered honey is likely to contain. Unfiltered honey contains bee shit, too. How beneficial is that? >And yes , local honey does have a mitigating >effect on allergic reactions due to pollen . There is no peer reviewed research to back that claim. I will be more than happy to change my opinion should you be able to provide the scientific evidence. >Pasteurized and >hot-filtered (yes , they heat it to thin it so it passes thru the >filters more easily) honey has none of these benefits . Believe what you >want , those are the facts . Honey, honey, sweetiepie...you have not presented any facts. All you have done is spout nonsense. If you have verifiable facts, present them. |
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:56:00 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>On 11/6/2018 7:55 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >> >> No. That was not a conclusion of the study, but one of the many >> organizational recommendations among those being evaluated. >> > >This is what is stated on my test results page: > >For someone without known diabetes, a hemoglobin >A1c value between 5.7% and 6.4% is consistent with >prediabetes and should be confirmed with a >follow-up test. >For someone with known diabetes, a value <7% >indicates that their diabetes is well controlled. A1c >targets should be individualized based on duration of >diabetes, age, comorbid conditions, and other >considerations. The purpose of the study was to determine veracity of just such statements and interpretations - to prove or disprove what you see above. Keeping some people <7% can be very expensive and mean a lot of medications are involved. Those medications can add their own side effects and complications into the mix. That is not including the practical and psychological effects of non-compliance and MD reactions to that or to not achieving goals. There are many other aspects of it all, too, of course. These guidelines and recommendations change a lot, not just with diabetes, but in many aspects of health. For a while, they thought hormones were great for post-menopausal women, then oopsie, they found out they could have fatal side effects. Ideal blood pressure levels get tweaked. Vitamin E supplements went in and out of fashion. Right now everyone is on the Vitamin D bandwagon. |
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On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 15:51:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote: >Cheri > wrote: >> >> Great to hear, and good for you. I have never achieved under 6, but I know >> some who have. >> >> Cheri >> >> > >I used to be on multiple types of insulin, and now I take no meds for it at >all. I use very, very strict diet control. That is great. You are diligent and fortunate. Always nice to hear. Not everyone can do it. I've met too many "brittle" diabetics over the years - people who played by all the rules, yet still had problems. |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:00:42 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: > >Unfiltered honey contains bee shit, too. How beneficial is that? > I'll withdraw that |
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Boron Elgar > wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 15:51:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx > > wrote: > >> Cheri > wrote: > >>> >>> Great to hear, and good for you. I have never achieved under 6, but I know >>> some who have. >>> >>> Cheri >>> >>> >> >> I used to be on multiple types of insulin, and now I take no meds for it at >> all. I use very, very strict diet control. > > That is great. You are diligent and fortunate. Always nice to hear. > > Not everyone can do it. I've met too many "brittle" diabetics over the > years - people who played by all the rules, yet still had problems. > Agreed! I have a cousin 10 years younger than I am, (still in his 30s) who just lost both of his feet and had a dual kidney/pancreas transplant within the last two years. He wasnt diabetic due to morbid obesity, either. It could just as easily have been me in that situation. |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:00:42 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:17:47 -0600, Terry Coombs > >wrote: > >>Raw unfiltered honey contains microorganisms and compounds proven to >>be beneficial to people . > >At what levels? And how do those levels vary from hive to hive or area >to area or batch to batch? What specific microorganism and compounds >are you claiming? Name them and the amounts that raw unfiltered honey >is likely to contain. > >Unfiltered honey contains bee shit, too. How beneficial is that? > >>And yes , local honey does have a mitigating >>effect on allergic reactions due to pollen . > >There is no peer reviewed research to back that claim. I will be more >than happy to change my opinion should you be able to provide the >scientific evidence. > > >>Pasteurized and >>hot-filtered (yes , they heat it to thin it so it passes thru the >>filters more easily) honey has none of these benefits . Believe what you >>want , those are the facts . > >Honey, honey, sweetiepie...you have not presented any facts. All you >have done is spout nonsense. > >If you have verifiable facts, present them. What do you think you're achieving with your pompous attitude? This is a food newsgroup, not sci.bees. |
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 08:34:05 +1100, Brice >
wrote: >On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:00:42 -0500, Boron Elgar > wrote: > >>On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:17:47 -0600, Terry Coombs > >>wrote: >> >>>Raw unfiltered honey contains microorganisms and compounds proven to >>>be beneficial to people . >> >>At what levels? And how do those levels vary from hive to hive or area >>to area or batch to batch? What specific microorganism and compounds >>are you claiming? Name them and the amounts that raw unfiltered honey >>is likely to contain. >> >>Unfiltered honey contains bee shit, too. How beneficial is that? >> >>>And yes , local honey does have a mitigating >>>effect on allergic reactions due to pollen . >> >>There is no peer reviewed research to back that claim. I will be more >>than happy to change my opinion should you be able to provide the >>scientific evidence. >> >> >>>Pasteurized and >>>hot-filtered (yes , they heat it to thin it so it passes thru the >>>filters more easily) honey has none of these benefits . Believe what you >>>want , those are the facts . >> >>Honey, honey, sweetiepie...you have not presented any facts. All you >>have done is spout nonsense. >> >>If you have verifiable facts, present them. > >What do you think you're achieving with your pompous attitude? This is >a food newsgroup, not sci.bees. **** off, shithead. |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 16:57:59 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 08:34:05 +1100, Brice > >wrote: > >>On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:00:42 -0500, Boron Elgar > wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:17:47 -0600, Terry Coombs > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>Raw unfiltered honey contains microorganisms and compounds proven to >>>>be beneficial to people . >>> >>>At what levels? And how do those levels vary from hive to hive or area >>>to area or batch to batch? What specific microorganism and compounds >>>are you claiming? Name them and the amounts that raw unfiltered honey >>>is likely to contain. >>> >>>Unfiltered honey contains bee shit, too. How beneficial is that? >>> >>>>And yes , local honey does have a mitigating >>>>effect on allergic reactions due to pollen . >>> >>>There is no peer reviewed research to back that claim. I will be more >>>than happy to change my opinion should you be able to provide the >>>scientific evidence. >>> >>> >>>>Pasteurized and >>>>hot-filtered (yes , they heat it to thin it so it passes thru the >>>>filters more easily) honey has none of these benefits . Believe what you >>>>want , those are the facts . >>> >>>Honey, honey, sweetiepie...you have not presented any facts. All you >>>have done is spout nonsense. >>> >>>If you have verifiable facts, present them. >> >>What do you think you're achieving with your pompous attitude? This is >>a food newsgroup, not sci.bees. > >**** off, shithead. Lol, it doesn't take much for you to show your real face and it ain't pretty |
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On Wed, 07 Nov 2018 14:00:42 -0500, Boron Elgar
> wrote: >On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:17:47 -0600, Terry Coombs > >wrote: > >>On 11/5/2018 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:48:02 -0600, Terry Coombs > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Now , about the honey . Because of the way >>>> microwaves heat , that is by molecular excitation , they destroy the >>>> organic and microbiological stuff in honey . We eat enough to make a >>>> difference , my wife has cut way back on antihistamines and other >>>> sinus/allergy medications . I never took much , now don't take any at all . >>> >>> "...they destroy the organic and microbiological stuff in honey. " >>> What exactly does that mean and why is it a negative? >>> >>> Again, most commercial honey sold is pasteurized, so are you trying to >>> say that raw honey is somehow intrinsically healthier and not only >>> better for you in some way, but that it mitigates allergies, too? >>> Nonsense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> * Raw unfiltered honey contains microorganisms and compounds proven to >>be beneficial to people . > >At what levels? And how do those levels vary from hive to hive or area >to area or batch to batch? What specific microorganism and compounds >are you claiming? Name them and the amounts that raw unfiltered honey >is likely to contain. > >Unfiltered honey contains bee shit, too. How beneficial is that? > >>And yes , local honey does have a mitigating >>effect on allergic reactions due to pollen . > >There is no peer reviewed research to back that claim. I will be more >than happy to change my opinion should you be able to provide the >scientific evidence. > > >>Pasteurized and >>hot-filtered (yes , they heat it to thin it so it passes thru the >>filters more easily) honey has none of these benefits . Believe what you >>want , those are the facts . > >Honey, honey, sweetiepie...you have not presented any facts. All you >have done is spout nonsense. > >If you have verifiable facts, present them. The thing I know is that medical professionals frown on feeding honey, any honey, to children under the ages of 2-3. However many of my neighbors are beekeepers and all have different methods. I don't worry, they gift me honey in exchange for my crops. I eat a lot of their honey and I'm still here. I like honey, I consume a lot, I much prefer honey in my coffee rather than sugar. I haven't had to buy any honey in 15 years. Many of my neighbors make maple syrup, only I don't much care for maple syrup, and I detest pancakes and waffles. |
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On 2018-11-07 12:00 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 09:17:47 -0600, Terry Coombs > > wrote: > >> On 11/5/2018 4:20 PM, Boron Elgar wrote: >>> On Mon, 5 Nov 2018 14:48:02 -0600, Terry Coombs > >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Now , about the honey . Because of the way >>>> microwaves heat , that is by molecular excitation , they destroy the >>>> organic and microbiological stuff in honey . We eat enough to make a >>>> difference , my wife has cut way back on antihistamines and other >>>> sinus/allergy medications . I never took much , now don't take any at all . >>> >>> "...they destroy the organic and microbiological stuff in honey." >>> What exactly does that mean and why is it a negative? >>> >>> Again, most commercial honey sold is pasteurized, so are you trying to >>> say that raw honey is somehow intrinsically healthier and not only >>> better for you in some way, but that it mitigates allergies, too? >>> Nonsense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> * Raw unfiltered honey contains microorganisms and compounds proven to >> be beneficial to people . > > At what levels? And how do those levels vary from hive to hive or area > to area or batch to batch? What specific microorganism and compounds > are you claiming? Name them and the amounts that raw unfiltered honey > is likely to contain. > > Unfiltered honey contains bee shit, too. How beneficial is that? > >> And yes , local honey does have a mitigating >> effect on allergic reactions due to pollen . > > There is no peer reviewed research to back that claim. I will be more > than happy to change my opinion should you be able to provide the > scientific evidence. > > >> Pasteurized and >> hot-filtered (yes , they heat it to thin it so it passes thru the >> filters more easily) honey has none of these benefits . Believe what you >> want , those are the facts . > > Honey, honey, sweetiepie...you have not presented any facts. All you > have done is spout nonsense. > > If you have verifiable facts, present them. > I went searching for a credible study today and all I could find in the limited time I had available were wild statements with nothing to back them up. I'm always suspicious of any statement that starts: :Studies show......." that have no links to recognised scientific journals. I did come across one that had investigated numerous studies into raw honey and found that they were all of very poor quality. So, Terry, give us a link to a scientifically sound article on the subject. AND, BTW, science IS my strong subject!! |
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