I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud! WTF?

I walked out front. There was a man with a dog in his arms
(protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away.
And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.

Not all dogs get along. I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
Whew, no bloodshed. It could have been a bad situation.

I'm so glad I have a cat. Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
ear. Her whiskers tickle. (smile)

Jill

On 11/18/2018 12:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> I heard this loud commotion out front.Â* Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!Â*
> WTF?
>
> I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading
> away. And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>
> Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
> Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
>
> I'm so glad I have a cat.Â* Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
> ear.Â* Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>
> Jill

Â* Max has yet to meet another dog he doesn't like . He wakes me most
mornings by jumping on my wife's side of the bed ... "You better do
something with that dog" . I think the chickens wake him when they start
crowing around 5 or so , and he does OK for a while but then wants out
to pee .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 12:40:36 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> Â* Max has yet to meet another dog he doesn't like. He wakes me most
> mornings by jumping on my wife's side of the bed ... "You better do
> something with that dog". I think the chickens wake him when they start
> crowing around 5 or so, and he does OK for a while but then wants out
> to pee.
>
>
Is a doggie door an option?

On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 12:40:36 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 11/18/2018 12:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> > I heard this loud commotion out front.Â* Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!Â*
> > WTF?
> >
> > I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
> > (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading
> > away. And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
> >
> > Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do..
> > Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
> >
> > I'm so glad I have a cat.Â* Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
> > ear.Â* Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
> >
> > Jill
>
> Â* Max has yet to meet another dog he doesn't like . He wakes me most
> mornings by jumping on my wife's side of the bed ... "You better do
> something with that dog" . I think the chickens wake him when they start
> crowing around 5 or so , and he does OK for a while but then wants out
> to pee .
>
> --
> Snag
> Yes , I'm old
> and crochety - and armed .
> Get outta my woods !

You GOTTA get up to let the dog out to pee! Problem is, dog does not wanna come back in, maybe!

John Kuthe...

On 11/18/2018 6:12 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 12:40:36 PM UTC-6, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 11/18/2018 12:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> I heard this loud commotion out front.Â* Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!
>>> WTF?
>>>
>>> I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
>>> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading
>>> away. And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>>>
>>> Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
>>> Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
>>>
>>> I'm so glad I have a cat.Â* Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
>>> ear.Â* Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>>>
>>> Jill
>> Â* Max has yet to meet another dog he doesn't like . He wakes me most
>> mornings by jumping on my wife's side of the bed ... "You better do
>> something with that dog" . I think the chickens wake him when they start
>> crowing around 5 or so , and he does OK for a while but then wants out
>> to pee .
>>
>> --
>> Snag
>> Yes , I'm old
>> and crochety - and armed .
>> Get outta my woods !
> You GOTTA get up to let the dog out to pee! Problem is, dog does not wanna come back in, maybe!
>
> John Kuthe...

Â* No , problem is that he runs off if I just let him out . The
neighbors don't much like having him visit ... If he'd stay home I'd put
the doggy door back in and just let him decide .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!
>WTF?
>
> I walked out front. There was a man with a dog in his arms (protectively)
> and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away. And another woman
> hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>
> Not all dogs get along. I don't know why everyone assumes they do. Whew,
> no bloodshed. It could have been a bad situation.
>
> I'm so glad I have a cat. Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
> ear. Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>
> Jill


I don't think everyone assumes that, just the not so smart ones. My dog does
not like other dogs at all, we don't take her to the dog park and places
like that, or bring her in contact with other dogs while walking, we cross
the street. DH carries a large club in case some unleashed pit bull decides
to cross the street though.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
>I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud! WTF?
>
> I walked out front. There was a man with a dog in his arms (protectively)
> and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away. And another woman
> hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>
> Not all dogs get along. I don't know why everyone assumes they do. Whew,
> no bloodshed. It could have been a bad situation.
>
> I'm so glad I have a cat. Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
> ear. Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>
> Jill


I don't think everyone assumes that, just the not so smart ones. My dog does
not like other dogs at all, we don't take her to the dog park and places
like that, or bring her in contact with other dogs while walking, we cross
the street. DH carries a large club in case some unleashed pit bull decides
to cross the street though.

Cheri

==

Oh yes! You know the history of our current dog. She is terrified of ALL
dogs!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!
>>WTF?
>>
>> I walked out front. There was a man with a dog in his arms
>> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away.
>> And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>>
>> Not all dogs get along. I don't know why everyone assumes they do. Whew,
>> no bloodshed. It could have been a bad situation.
>>
>> I'm so glad I have a cat. Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
>> ear. Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I don't think everyone assumes that, just the not so smart ones. My dog
> does
> not like other dogs at all, we don't take her to the dog park and places
> like that, or bring her in contact with other dogs while walking, we cross
> the street. DH carries a large club in case some unleashed pit bull
> decides
> to cross the street though.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> Oh yes! You know the history of our current dog. She is terrified of ALL
> dogs!

Yes, there have been some bad experiences for your dog and mine.

Cheri

"Cheri" wrote in message news
"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message news >
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!
>>WTF?
>>
>> I walked out front. There was a man with a dog in his arms
>> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away.
>> And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>>
>> Not all dogs get along. I don't know why everyone assumes they do. Whew,
>> no bloodshed. It could have been a bad situation.
>>
>> I'm so glad I have a cat. Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
>> ear. Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> I don't think everyone assumes that, just the not so smart ones. My dog
> does
> not like other dogs at all, we don't take her to the dog park and places
> like that, or bring her in contact with other dogs while walking, we cross
> the street. DH carries a large club in case some unleashed pit bull
> decides
> to cross the street though.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> Oh yes! You know the history of our current dog. She is terrified of ALL
> dogs!

Yes, there have been some bad experiences for your dog and mine.

Cheri

==

At least they have us to care for, love them and protect them.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Cheri" wrote in message news

> Yes, there have been some bad experiences for your dog and mine.
>
> Cheri
>
> ==
>
> At least they have us to care for, love them and protect them.


True, they are thriving on it.

Cheri

On Sunday, November 18, 2018 at 12:30:53 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
> I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud! WTF?
>
> I walked out front. There was a man with a dog in his arms
> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away.
> And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>
> Not all dogs get along. I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
> Whew, no bloodshed. It could have been a bad situation.
>
> I'm so glad I have a cat. Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
> ear. Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>
> Jill

Some dogs are just mean assholes! Always taught that way!

John Kuthe...

On 11/18/2018 1:30 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> I heard this loud commotion out front.Â* Dogs barking, snarling.Â* Loud!
> WTF?
>
> I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away.
> And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>
> Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
> Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
>
> I'm so glad I have a cat.Â* Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
> ear.Â* Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>
> Jill

I did *not* mean to post this here. Mea culpa.

Jill

On 2018-11-18 1:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> I heard this loud commotion out front.Â* Dogs barking, snarling.Â* Loud!
> WTF?
>
> I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading away.
> And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>
> Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
> Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
>
> I'm so glad I have a cat.Â* Buffy woke me up this morning purring in my
> ear.Â* Her whiskers tickle. (smile)
>

When we got our Malinois we were told that he could not be around other
dogs. That was confirmed when my brother brought his Lab over to go
for a walk. Sonny was so vicious that my bother never brought his dog
back and did not want Sonny there. I used to walk him in the woods
behind us and let him run free. A couple times we ran into people with
dogs running free and he was fine. When a leash free dog park opened up
nearby we tried it out and he was fine. Dogs tend to get along much
better when there are no leashes involved.

On 11/18/2018 11:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-18 1:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> I heard this loud commotion out front.Â* Dogs barking, snarling.Â* Loud!
>> WTF?
>>
>> I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
>> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading
>> away. And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>>
>> Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
>> Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
>>
>
> When we got our Malinois we were told that he could not be around other
> dogs. That was confirmed when my brother brought hisÂ* LabÂ* over to go
> for a walk. Sonny was so vicious that my bother never brought his dog
> back and did not want Sonny there.Â* I used to walk him in the woods
> behind us and let him run free.Â* A couple times we ran into people with
> dogs running free and he was fine. When a leash free dog park openedÂ* up
> nearby we tried it out and he was fine.Â*Â* Dogs tend to get along much
> better when there are no leashes involved.
>
I'm not talking about a dog park or in the "woods" in the middle of
nowhere. Unleashed dogs are not a good thing in a neighborhood. Dogs
should always be under the owners control, on a leash. These were, and
they didn't like each other. Uncontrolled, it could have been a bad
situation involving trips to the vet.

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 11/18/2018 11:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-11-18 1:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!
>> WTF?
>>
>> I walked out front. There was a man with a dog in his arms
>> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading
>> away. And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>>
>> Not all dogs get along. I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
>> Whew, no bloodshed. It could have been a bad situation.
>>
>
> When we got our Malinois we were told that he could not be around other
> dogs. That was confirmed when my brother brought his Lab over to go
> for a walk. Sonny was so vicious that my bother never brought his dog
> back and did not want Sonny there. I used to walk him in the woods
> behind us and let him run free. A couple times we ran into people with
> dogs running free and he was fine. When a leash free dog park opened up
> nearby we tried it out and he was fine. Dogs tend to get along much
> better when there are no leashes involved.
>
I'm not talking about a dog park or in the "woods" in the middle of
nowhere. Unleashed dogs are not a good thing in a neighborhood. Dogs
should always be under the owners control, on a leash. These were, and
they didn't like each other. Uncontrolled, it could have been a bad
situation involving trips to the vet.

Jill


===

+1

On 11/19/2018 11:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "jmcquown"Â* wrote in message ...
> On 11/18/2018 11:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-11-18 1:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>> I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling.Â*
>>> Loud! WTF?
>>>
>>> I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
>>> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading
>>> away. And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>>>
>>> Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
>>> Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
>>>
>>
>> When we got our Malinois we were told that he could not be around
>> other dogs. That was confirmed when my brother brought hisÂ* LabÂ* over
>> to go for a walk. Sonny was so vicious that my bother never brought
>> his dog back and did not want Sonny there. I used to walk him in the
>> woods behind us and let him run free. A couple times we ran into
>> people with dogs running free and he was fine. When a leash free dog
>> park openedÂ* up nearby we tried it out and he was fine.Â*Â* Dogs tend
>> to get along much better when there are no leashes involved.
>>
> I'm not talking about a dog park or in the "woods" in the middle of
> nowhere.Â* Unleashed dogs are not a good thing in a neighborhood.Â* Dogs
> should always be under the owners control, on a leash.Â* These were,
> and they didn't like each other. Uncontrolled, it could have been a
> bad situation involving trips to the vet.
>
> Jill
>
>
> ===
>
> +1
>
Â* When I was a child , we had a Border Collie named Ring . Our neighbor
about an eighth of a mile down and across the road had one name Tippy .
They'd step out in the road , see each other and meet in the middle .
They were pretty evenly matched , never a clear winner - kinda like The
Hatfields and McCoys . The feud went on until one of them died , been so
long I don't recall which expired first . But neither ever went to the
vet over a bite or two .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message news
When I was a child , we had a Border Collie named Ring . Our neighbor
about an eighth of a mile down and across the road had one name Tippy .
They'd step out in the road , see each other and meet in the middle .
They were pretty evenly matched , never a clear winner - kinda like The
Hatfields and McCoys . The feud went on until one of them died , been so
long I don't recall which expired first . But neither ever went to the
vet over a bite or two .

Snag

==

Awww perhaps they enjoyed it?))) If one of them were being badly hurt,
they would back off

I always get Border Collies and always rescues. My current one is terrified
of other dogs

She was found in a house with 42 dogs and 2 cats and the owner had died.
She's had pups but there were none to be seen so they must have eaten them.
She was skin and bone ... heh you ought to see her now Perhaps I have
been a bit too generous ... yes she is a bit overweight but the vet never
gives me any grief The RSPCA who found them had to share them all out
with rescue centres. They put Poppy in a cage with another dog (thinking
that because they knew each other ...) but she was bullied so badly by other
other dog they moved her out. It took her a long time to trust us, but
now, she can't bear either of us to be out of her sight. She is a lovely
girl and we love her to bits)

I hope you always have happy dogs

On 11/19/2018 5:15 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 11/19/2018 11:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "jmcquown"Â* wrote in message ...
>> On 11/18/2018 11:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-18 1:30 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> I heard this loud commotion out front. Dogs barking, snarling. Loud!
>>>> WTF?
>>>>
>>>> I walked out front.Â* There was a man with a dog in his arms
>>>> (protectively) and his wife with a smaller dog on a leash heading
>>>> away. And another woman hurrying her larger dog away from them.
>>>>
>>>> Not all dogs get along.Â* I don't know why everyone assumes they do.
>>>> Whew, no bloodshed.Â* It could have been a bad situation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When we got our Malinois we were told that he could not be around
>>> other dogs. That was confirmed when my brother brought hisÂ* LabÂ* over
>>> to go for a walk. Sonny was so vicious that my bother never brought
>>> his dog back and did not want Sonny there. I used to walk him in the
>>> woods behind us and let him run free. A couple times we ran into
>>> people with dogs running free and he was fine. When a leash free dog
>>> park openedÂ* up nearby we tried it out and he was fine.Â*Â* Dogs tend
>>> to get along much better when there are no leashes involved.
>>>
>> I'm not talking about a dog park or in the "woods" in the middle of
>> nowhere.Â* Unleashed dogs are not a good thing in a neighborhood.Â* Dogs
>> should always be under the owners control, on a leash.Â* These were,
>> and they didn't like each other. Uncontrolled, it could have been a
>> bad situation involving trips to the vet.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>>
>> ===
>>
>> +1
>>
> Â* When I was a child , we had a Border Collie named Ring . Our neighbor
> about an eighth of a mile down and across the road had one name Tippy .
> They'd step out in the road , see each other and meet in the middle .
> They were pretty evenly matched , never a clear winner - kinda like The
> Hatfields and McCoys . The feud went on until one of them died , been so
> long I don't recall which expired first . But neither ever went to the
> vet over a bite or two .
>
That may be true in your neck of the woods. IMHO any dog bite needs to
be treated by a vet. There is no way to know whether or not a dog has
been vaccinated. I wouldn't take a chance.

Jill

On 2018-11-19 11:34 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/18/2018 11:32 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>> When we got our Malinois we were told that he could not be around
>> other dogs. That was confirmed when my brother brought hisÂ* LabÂ* over
>> to go for a walk. Sonny was so vicious that my bother never brought
>> his dog back and did not want Sonny there.Â* I used to walk him in the
>> woods behind us and let him run free.Â* A couple times we ran into
>> people with dogs running free and he was fine. When a leash free dog
>> park openedÂ* up nearby we tried it out and he was fine.Â*Â* Dogs tend to
>> get along much better when there are no leashes involved.
>>
> I'm not talking about a dog park or in the "woods" in the middle of
> nowhere.Â* Unleashed dogs are not a good thing in a neighborhood.Â* Dogs
> should always be under the owners control, on a leash.Â* These were, and
> they didn't like each other.Â* Uncontrolled, it could have been a bad
> situation involving trips to the vet.


Perhaps not. I have seen too many cases of dogs getting along fine
when both are loose, but very aggressive when one or both are leashed.

I once had a female boxer, in dog show no points are taken away from a boxer for showing aggresion (sp?)

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>
> I once had a female boxer, in dog show no points are taken away from a boxer for showing aggresion (sp?)
>
I do believe in the AKC big show to judge the years top dog they are either
disqualified or points taken away if they bite the judge.

On 2018-11-19 6:44 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>>
>> I once had a female boxer, in dog show no points are taken away from a boxer for showing aggresion (sp?)
>>
> I do believe in the AKC big show to judge the years top dog they are either
> disqualified or points taken away if they bite the judge.
>

From the AKC rule book:


[R] Disqualify any dog that, in your opinion, attacks
any person in the ring (Rules, Chapter 11, Section
8A). An attack is defined as a bite or an attempt to
bite anyone, including its own handler, without valid
extenuating circumstances, for example accidentally
biting the hand that is baiting a dog.



https://images.akc.org/pdf/rulebooks/REJ999.pdf

On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 6:14:41 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2018-11-19 6:44 PM, wrote:
>
> > On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> >>
> >> I once had a female boxer, in dog show no points are taken away from a boxer for showing aggresion (sp?)
> >>
> > I do believe in the AKC big show to judge the years top dog they are either
> > disqualified or points taken away if they bite the judge.
> >
>
> From the AKC rule book:
>
>
> [R] Disqualify any dog that, in your opinion, attacks
> any person in the ring (Rules, Chapter 11, Section
> 8A). An attack is defined as a bite or an attempt to
> bite anyone, including its own handler, without valid
> extenuating circumstances, for example accidentally
> biting the hand that is baiting a dog.
>
> https://images.akc.org/pdf/rulebooks/REJ999.pdf
>
I had heard one the commentators one time while watching AKC show
say that biting or aggressive behavior would not be tolerated by
the judges.

On 11/19/2018 11:46 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 6:14:41 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-11-19 6:44 PM, wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, November 19, 2018 at 5:37:50 PM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I once had a female boxer, in dog show no points are taken away from a boxer for showing aggresion (sp?)
>>>>
>>> I do believe in the AKC big show to judge the years top dog they are either
>>> disqualified or points taken away if they bite the judge.
>>>
>>
>> From the AKC rule book:
>>
>>
>> [R] Disqualify any dog that, in your opinion, attacks
>> any person in the ring (Rules, Chapter 11, Section
>> 8A). An attack is defined as a bite or an attempt to
>> bite anyone, including its own handler, without valid
>> extenuating circumstances, for example accidentally
>> biting the hand that is baiting a dog.
>>
>> https://images.akc.org/pdf/rulebooks/REJ999.pdf
>>
> I had heard one the commentators one time while watching AKC show
> say that biting or aggressive behavior would not be tolerated by
> the judges.
>
Nor should they be tolerated!

Jill

I meant if they attack other dogs not a person.