https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24

I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:10:37 +0000, l not -l wrote:

> On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>
>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>> smoker.
> I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point
> of seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I
> could hate after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex
> did. 8-)

Yeah, the price was indeed ridiculous; a watermelon that size would set
me back maybe $1 (here). Some olive oil, a couple of spoons of dried
spices and a few sprigs of rosemary are not worth $74, imho. Even taking
into account the 'process' they use.

They're not catering for vegans/vegetarians - they're just ripping people
off.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 1/21/2019 11:37 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:10:37 +0000, l not -l wrote:
>
>> On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>>
>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>>> smoker.
>> I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point
>> of seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I
>> could hate after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex
>> did. 8-)
>
> Yeah, the price was indeed ridiculous; a watermelon that size would set
> me back maybe $1 (here). Some olive oil, a couple of spoons of dried
> spices and a few sprigs of rosemary are not worth $74, imho. Even taking
> into account the 'process' they use.
>
> They're not catering for vegans/vegetarians - they're just ripping people
> off.
>
For the amount of time to make it, the price is not that bad for a NYC
restaurant. They said it serves four.

I'd like to try it, but only a taste. I'm not willing to spend the
money to order it in a restaurant.

On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>
> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
>

CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
pit in the spring.

jay

Cathy, I don't think I would try it, but then I also think grilled watermelon is kinda nuts,
but if someone wants to do that, who cares?

N.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay wrote:

> On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>
>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>> smoker.
>>
>>
> CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
> pit in the spring.

Goferit. At least it's not going to cost you $75 ;-)

But the thought of smoked/cooked watermelon makes me wanna heave. I'm the
same with avocado. Love it 'as is', and guacamole is great with corn
chips - but take it anywhere near heat and it just tastes awful to me.
YMMV, of course.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

ChattyCathy wrote :
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay wrote:
>
>> On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>>
>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>>> smoker.
>>>
>>>
>> CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
>> pit in the spring.
>
> Goferit. At least it's not going to cost you $75 ;-)
>
> But the thought of smoked/cooked watermelon makes me wanna heave. I'm the
> same with avocado. Love it 'as is', and guacamole is great with corn
> chips - but take it anywhere near heat and it just tastes awful to me.
> YMMV, of course.
>
You should call yourself Chatty ****y.

Jill

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:26:33 -0800, Nancy2 wrote:

> Cathy, I don't think I would try it, but then I also think grilled
> watermelon is kinda nuts,
> but if someone wants to do that, who cares?

I do, clearly <lol>

Found this article about the restaurant in question (if you're
interested). I also had a look at the menus listed on their website,
nothing spectacular there, imho - but no prices listed so I have no clue
what they charge for actual smoked meats.

https://ny.eater.com/2018/9/5/178238...ed-watermelon-
viral

I guess the good news is: he's not planning on opening a $&@!*#$
watermelon stand.

(warning: the co-owner quoted has a potty mouth)
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:52:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> ChattyCathy wrote :
>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>>>
>>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>>>> smoker.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up
>>> the pit in the spring.
>>
>> Goferit. At least it's not going to cost you $75 ;-)
>>
>> But the thought of smoked/cooked watermelon makes me wanna heave. I'm
>> the same with avocado. Love it 'as is', and guacamole is great with
>> corn chips - but take it anywhere near heat and it just tastes awful to
>> me. YMMV, of course.
>>
> You should call yourself Chatty ****y.
>
> Jill

I love you too Jill.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

"ChattyCathy" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:52:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> ChattyCathy wrote :
>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>>>>
>>>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>>>>> smoker.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up
>>>> the pit in the spring.
>>>
>>> Goferit. At least it's not going to cost you $75 ;-)
>>>
>>> But the thought of smoked/cooked watermelon makes me wanna heave. I'm
>>> the same with avocado. Love it 'as is', and guacamole is great with
>>> corn chips - but take it anywhere near heat and it just tastes awful to
>>> me. YMMV, of course.
>>>
>> You should call yourself Chatty ****y.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I love you too Jill.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Chatty Cathy


That's NOT Jill.

Cheri

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 12:05:12 -0800, Cheri wrote:

>
>
> That's NOT Jill.
>
> Cheri


<switching on headers> Probably not.
I thought the trolls had lost interest. Guess I was wrong.
--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 2019-01-21 11:10 a.m., l not -l wrote:
> On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>
>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
> I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point of
> seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I could hate
> after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex did. 8-)
>


I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my world.

On 2019-01-21 2:27 p.m., ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay wrote:
>
>> On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>>
>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>>> smoker.
>>>
>>>
>> CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
>> pit in the spring.
>
> Goferit. At least it's not going to cost you $75 ;-)
>
> But the thought of smoked/cooked watermelon makes me wanna heave. I'm the
> same with avocado. Love it 'as is', and guacamole is great with corn
> chips - but take it anywhere near heat and it just tastes awful to me.
> YMMV, of course.
>


Yeah, but what about grilled pineapple, grilled peaches, flambeed bananas?

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:54:20 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2019-01-21 2:27 p.m., ChattyCathy wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:

>> But the thought of smoked/cooked watermelon makes me wanna heave. I'm
>> the same with avocado. Love it 'as is', and guacamole is great with
>> corn chips - but take it anywhere near heat and it just tastes awful to
>> me. YMMV, of course.
>>
>>
>
> Yeah, but what about grilled pineapple, grilled peaches, flambeed
> bananas?

All good. Fresh figs on the grill (cut in half, coated in honey and
placed on skewers) are one of my favorites. We have a few fig trees in
our yard and the figs are almost ripe, so looking forward to some very
soon.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay > wrote:

>On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>
>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
>>
>
>CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
>pit in the spring.
>
>jay

Might give it a try with one of those seedless dwarf sized warty
melones, usually $3. With a large watermelon I like to scoop out the
flesh with a melon baller, same with a cantelope and a persian
melon... put it all back into the warty melone shell. add some grapes,
whatever fruit you like and place it in the fridge over night and add
a couple cups of vodka or bubbly champagne so it maserates over
night... that I know is superb, never gets wasted, although some folks
can't stop fressing until they are wasted.

Today I went to a new neurosurgeon to see about getting epidural shots
in my spine. My last doc picked up and moved the entire facility to
Noo Joisey. This doctor came highly recommended. After reviewing my
last MRI and givng me three back x-rays he gave me an appt. for the
shots this Thurs at 3 PM. He knew my last doctor and the entire
staff, plus reviewed all my reports on line. He seemed very confident
that he could help me. he xplained that most of my pain was from
arthritis and spinal stenosis. He explained that nothing could cure
that but the shots could relieve the pain for a while. He told me
that back surgery won't help, it'll just lead to more surgeries. He
explained that back surgery is indicated for trauma from a damaging
accident, but will do nothing for pain from aging. We'll be there
Thurs. afternoon.
On the way home we had to pass The Gold Coin, brought home a large
corrigated carton of Chinese food (chinks), more than enough for
tonight, tomorrow night, and and the next night. My wife said my spare
ribs are much better, my fly lice is better too.
Any way it was a very busy day, it went very fast.

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 3:14:50 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay > wrote:
>
> >On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
> >>
> >> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
> >>
> >
> >CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
> >pit in the spring.
> >
> >jay
>
> Might give it a try with one of those seedless dwarf sized warty
> melones, usually $3. With a large watermelon I like to scoop out the
> flesh with a melon baller, same with a cantelope and a persian
> melon... put it all back into the warty melone shell. add some grapes,
> whatever fruit you like and place it in the fridge over night and add
> a couple cups of vodka or bubbly champagne so it maserates over
> night... that I know is superb, never gets wasted, although some folks
> can't stop fressing until they are wasted.
>
> Today I went to a new neurosurgeon to see about getting epidural shots
> in my spine. My last doc picked up and moved the entire facility to
> Noo Joisey. This doctor came highly recommended. After reviewing my
> last MRI and givng me three back x-rays he gave me an appt. for the
> shots this Thurs at 3 PM. He knew my last doctor and the entire
> staff, plus reviewed all my reports on line. He seemed very confident
> that he could help me. he xplained that most of my pain was from
> arthritis and spinal stenosis. He explained that nothing could cure
> that but the shots could relieve the pain for a while. He told me
> that back surgery won't help, it'll just lead to more surgeries. He
> explained that back surgery is indicated for trauma from a damaging
> accident, but will do nothing for pain from aging. We'll be there
> Thurs. afternoon.
> On the way home we had to pass The Gold Coin, brought home a large
> corrigated carton of Chinese food (chinks), more than enough for
> tonight, tomorrow night, and and the next night. My wife said my spare
> ribs are much better, my fly lice is better too.
> Any way it was a very busy day, it went very fast.

Last night I went to a Chinese restaurant with my son and his family. One of the things we had was beef broccoli cake noodle. Cake noodle is a local specialty that every Chinese restaurant in the state serves. Everyone on this rock loves that stuff! When the Hawaiians go to a Chinese restaurant on the mainland they are saddened to hear that nobody there knows what cake noodle is. That's the breaks.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mLTbh8mqUh0dk5

Several times during the dinner I went outside the restaurant to watch the lunar eclipse. It was a most amazing sight. The crispy gau gee we had was filled with the most amount of stuffing that we had ever seen. I made a joke about the gau gee gets stuffed like that only once in a red moon.

On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-01-21 11:10 a.m., l not -l wrote:
> > On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> >
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
> >>
> >> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
> > I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point of
> > seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I could hate
> > after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex did. 8-)
> >
>
>
> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my world.

Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
>> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
>> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
>> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my
>> world.
>
> Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>

I'll admit location, location, location affects pricing significantly
too, but even if I was as rich as Croesus I wouldn't pay that - even if I
thought I might like it. And... if somebody else is paying (who can
easily afford it) when we go to a 'fancy' restaurant I try and order the
most reasonably priced things I can eat from the menu. Furthermore, a lot
(not all) of these 'fancy' or 'speciality' restaurants charge a fortune,
but the portions are so small you are still hungry when you get home.

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 1/22/2019 7:04 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> I'll admit location, location, location affects pricing significantly
> too, but even if I was as rich as Croesus I wouldn't pay that - even if I
> thought I might like it. And... if somebody else is paying (who can
> easily afford it) when we go to a 'fancy' restaurant I try and order the
> most reasonably priced things I can eat from the menu. Furthermore, a lot
> (not all) of these 'fancy' or 'speciality' restaurants charge a fortune,
> but the portions are so small you are still hungry when you get home.
>
> --
I concur. $75 for smoked watermelon is ridiculous no matter how fancy
the restaurant is. Like you, if someone else is treating I don't
automatically think, "Oh boy, what's the most expensive thing I can
order?"

I agree about the portion sizes in these fancy haute cuisine type
places, too. My parents went to dinner at Dux in the Peabody Hotel
years ago (read: very fancy.) Dad told me he practically needed a
microscope to see the food on his plate. Oh, but it was artfully
arranged! He had to eat again when they got home.

Jill

On 1/21/2019 2:58 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:52:05 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> ChattyCathy wrote :
>>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>>>>
>>>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a
>>>>> smoker.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up
>>>> the pit in the spring.
>>>
>>> Goferit. At least it's not going to cost you $75 ;-)
>>>
>>> But the thought of smoked/cooked watermelon makes me wanna heave. I'm
>>> the same with avocado. Love it 'as is', and guacamole is great with
>>> corn chips - but take it anywhere near heat and it just tastes awful to
>>> me. YMMV, of course.
>>>
>> You should call yourself Chatty ****y.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I love you too Jill.
>
I didn't write that.

Jill

On 1/21/2019 3:14 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 12:05:12 -0800, Cheri wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> That's NOT Jill.
>>
>> Cheri
>
>
> <switching on headers> Probably not.
> I thought the trolls had lost interest. Guess I was wrong.
>
There's at least one troll who regularly forges posts, allegedly from
me. I don't see the nasty fake posts unless someone replies to them. I
sure as heck wouldn't say anything like that to you!

Jill

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 08:24:50 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> On 1/21/2019 3:14 PM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 12:05:12 -0800, Cheri wrote:
>
>>> That's NOT Jill.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>>
>> <switching on headers> Probably not.
>> I thought the trolls had lost interest. Guess I was wrong.
>>
> There's at least one troll who regularly forges posts, allegedly from
> me. I don't see the nasty fake posts unless someone replies to them. I
> sure as heck wouldn't say anything like that to you!
>

Yeah, I shoulda known better - but I was waaay out of practice checking
the headers in detail, etc. I have started doing that again. Sigh. The
'newer' version of my newsreader (which is all I could find that sort-of
does what I want) has lost a lot of the features I liked - or buried them
somewhere. Why am I not surprised?

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On 1/21/19 6:14 PM, wrote:
> Today I went to a new neurosurgeon to see about getting epidural shots
> in my spine. My last doc picked up and moved the entire facility to
> Noo Joisey. This doctor came highly recommended. After reviewing my
> last MRI and givng me three back x-rays he gave me an appt. for the
> shots this Thurs at 3 PM. He knew my last doctor and the entire
> staff, plus reviewed all my reports on line. He seemed very confident
> that he could help me. he xplained that most of my pain was from
> arthritis and spinal stenosis. He explained that nothing could cure
> that but the shots could relieve the pain for a while. He told me
> that back surgery won't help, it'll just lead to more surgeries. He
> explained that back surgery is indicated for trauma from a damaging
> accident, but will do nothing for pain from aging. We'll be there
> Thurs. afternoon.

Hope it helps! May be good that back surgery won't help. Opens the door
for a lot of awful follow ups. Just finding a way to live with it is a
lucky find. Wonder if there is any PT that can also help.

jay

On 2019-01-22 6:17 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-01-21 11:10 a.m., l not -l wrote:
>>> On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>>>>
>>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
>>> I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point of
>>> seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I could hate
>>> after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex did. 8-)
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
>> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
>> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
>> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my world.
>
> Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.


That would explain why a steak is the same price as a hamburger?

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 02:05:24 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 3:14:50 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay > wrote:
>>
>> >On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> >>
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>> >>
>> >> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
>> >>
>> >
>> >CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
>> >pit in the spring.
>> >
>> >jay
>>
>> Might give it a try with one of those seedless dwarf sized warty
>> melones, usually $3. With a large watermelon I like to scoop out the
>> flesh with a melon baller, same with a cantelope and a persian
>> melon... put it all back into the warty melone shell. add some grapes,
>> whatever fruit you like and place it in the fridge over night and add
>> a couple cups of vodka or bubbly champagne so it maserates over
>> night... that I know is superb, never gets wasted, although some folks
>> can't stop fressing until they are wasted.
>>
>> Today I went to a new neurosurgeon to see about getting epidural shots
>> in my spine. My last doc picked up and moved the entire facility to
>> Noo Joisey. This doctor came highly recommended. After reviewing my
>> last MRI and givng me three back x-rays he gave me an appt. for the
>> shots this Thurs at 3 PM. He knew my last doctor and the entire
>> staff, plus reviewed all my reports on line. He seemed very confident
>> that he could help me. he xplained that most of my pain was from
>> arthritis and spinal stenosis. He explained that nothing could cure
>> that but the shots could relieve the pain for a while. He told me
>> that back surgery won't help, it'll just lead to more surgeries. He
>> explained that back surgery is indicated for trauma from a damaging
>> accident, but will do nothing for pain from aging. We'll be there
>> Thurs. afternoon.
>> On the way home we had to pass The Gold Coin, brought home a large
>> corrigated carton of Chinese food (chinks), more than enough for
>> tonight, tomorrow night, and and the next night. My wife said my spare
>> ribs are much better, my fly lice is better too.
>> Any way it was a very busy day, it went very fast.
>
>Last night I went to a Chinese restaurant with my son and his family. One of the things we had was beef broccoli cake noodle. Cake noodle is a local specialty that every Chinese restaurant in the state serves. Everyone on this rock loves that stuff! When the Hawaiians go to a Chinese restaurant on the mainland they are saddened to hear that nobody there knows what cake noodle is. That's the breaks.
>
>https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mLTbh8mqUh0dk5

Cake noodle looks exactly like ramen... before cooking it's a hard
cake.

>Several times during the dinner I went outside the restaurant to watch the lunar eclipse. It was a most amazing sight. The crispy gau gee we had was filled with the most amount of stuffing that we had ever seen. I made a joke about the gau gee gets stuffed like that only once in a red moon.

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 11:41:21 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-01-22 6:17 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2019-01-21 11:10 a.m., l not -l wrote:
> >>> On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
> >>>>
> >>>> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
> >>> I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point of
> >>> seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I could hate
> >>> after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex did. 8-)
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
> >> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
> >> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
> >> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my world.
> >
> > Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>
>
> That would explain why a steak is the same price as a hamburger?

Nope. The raw materials are slightly higher for a steak, but they
might lose a little (or break even) on a hamburger knowing they'll
make it up on the steak eaters, or the hamburger eater's beverage.

It's all about the averages. Suppose they need to extract at least
$15 per diner. That $10 hamburger is subsidized by the $20 steak.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:04:35 +0000, ChattyCathy
> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
>>> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
>>> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
>>> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my
>>> world.
>>
>> Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>>
>
>I'll admit location, location, location affects pricing significantly
>too, but even if I was as rich as Croesus I wouldn't pay that - even if I
>thought I might like it. And... if somebody else is paying (who can
>easily afford it) when we go to a 'fancy' restaurant I try and order the
>most reasonably priced things I can eat from the menu. Furthermore, a lot
>(not all) of these 'fancy' or 'speciality' restaurants charge a fortune,
>but the portions are so small you are still hungry when you get home.

Totally agree and they are getting greedier by the minute. The
biggest resto rip off is booze, cocktails are so watered down with ice
you may as well ask for plain water.
I don't mind paying for the cooking, clean up, and service, but $65
for a steak dinner is ridiculous when I can buy a better steak at a
local market for under $10 a pound and cooking a steak requires little
to no skill. Most any 12 year old boy scout can grill a steak better
than a high end steakhouse and on a wood fire they built themself.
When I did go out to eat it be for food I couldn't easily prepare at
home and with ingredients I couldn't easily obtain near home. But for
many years now restaurant foods are pre-prepared in factories and of
poor quality ingredients. Nowadays salads come out of cello bag and
dressing from a bottle. Today the steaks served at a high end
steakhouse are comparable in quality to fast food burgers. Steaks are
also from the freezer, as is seafood, so are fries. The last time I
went to a high end restaurant was during the summer for the birthday
of a woman in my wife's golf club. I decided on pork chops. The
salad was prechopped from a bag, the dressing was probably wishbone
served in a small plastic cup. However my pork chops were two half
inch thick slices of boneless pork loin that I buy often at well under
$2/lb. I didn't order any appetizer or dessert. The pork arrived
with some sort of rice molded like from a muffin tin. My meal cost
the least, $23! Robbery! I could have prepared better at home for
like six bucks. I did order a Boodles dry mar2ni, was good but not
worth the $13. I kept the cost of my meal low even though it was paid
for from the golf club fund. I'll never eat at that rip off
restaurant again, the cook sucks. the decor sucks, the seatng is
extremely uncomfortable, and there is NO mountainview, all one can see
from the windows is their parking lot and accross the road a
dilapidated stockade fence for one of the last remaining drive-in
movies. The mountains can only be seen from the kitchen window in the
rear of the building. That building used to be an old butcher shop,
still smells of butcher shop.
https://www.mountainviewbrasserie.com/
https://www.mountainviewbrasserie.com/menu/dinner/

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 15:48:48 -0500, wrote:

<snip rant>

>My meal cost the least, $23! Robbery! I could have prepared better at home for
>like six bucks. I did order a Boodles dry mar2ni

That's rather unusual for a man who doesn't drink.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-01-21 11:10 a.m., l not -l wrote:
>> > On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> >
>> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>> >>
>> >> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
>> > I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point of
>> > seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I could hate
>> > after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex did. 8-)
>> >
>>
>>
>> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
>> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
>> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
>> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my world.
>
>Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.

It's part of the equation.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 08:21:13 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/22/2019 7:04 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
>> I'll admit location, location, location affects pricing significantly
>> too, but even if I was as rich as Croesus I wouldn't pay that - even if I
>> thought I might like it. And... if somebody else is paying (who can
>> easily afford it) when we go to a 'fancy' restaurant I try and order the
>> most reasonably priced things I can eat from the menu. Furthermore, a lot
>> (not all) of these 'fancy' or 'speciality' restaurants charge a fortune,
>> but the portions are so small you are still hungry when you get home.
>>
>> --
>I concur. $75 for smoked watermelon is ridiculous no matter how fancy
>the restaurant is. Like you, if someone else is treating I don't
>automatically think, "Oh boy, what's the most expensive thing I can
>order?"
>
>I agree about the portion sizes in these fancy haute cuisine type
>places, too. My parents went to dinner at Dux in the Peabody Hotel
>years ago (read: very fancy.) Dad told me he practically needed a
>microscope to see the food on his plate. Oh, but it was artfully
>arranged! He had to eat again when they got home.

If that's the most recent experience you can come up with, it clearly
doesn't happen often.

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 3:56:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2019-01-21 11:10 a.m., l not -l wrote:
> >> > On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
> >> >>
> >> >> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
> >> > I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point of
> >> > seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I could hate
> >> > after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex did. 8-)
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
> >> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
> >> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
> >> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my world.
> >
> >Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>
> It's part of the equation.

Not solely by the cost of the materials. Labor is huge, especially
in high-end restaurants. Rent (wasn't the subject restaurant in
Manhattan?) is also a biggie.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 13:21:04 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 3:56:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> On 2019-01-21 11:10 a.m., l not -l wrote:
>> >> > On 21-Jan-2019, ChattyCathy > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
>> >> > I was thinking "how bad could it be, I'd try it", right up to the point of
>> >> > seeing a price of $75. That's way too much for something that I could hate
>> >> > after one bite. I'd try it for $5 - call me cheap, my ex did. 8-)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
>> >> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
>> >> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
>> >> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my world.
>> >
>> >Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>>
>> It's part of the equation.
>
>Not solely by the cost of the materials. Labor is huge, especially
>in high-end restaurants. Rent (wasn't the subject restaurant in
>Manhattan?) is also a biggie.

Of course.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 07:18:43 -0700, jay > wrote:

>On 1/21/19 6:14 PM, wrote:
>> Today I went to a new neurosurgeon to see about getting epidural shots
>> in my spine. My last doc picked up and moved the entire facility to
>> Noo Joisey. This doctor came highly recommended. After reviewing my
>> last MRI and givng me three back x-rays he gave me an appt. for the
>> shots this Thurs at 3 PM. He knew my last doctor and the entire
>> staff, plus reviewed all my reports on line. He seemed very confident
>> that he could help me. he xplained that most of my pain was from
>> arthritis and spinal stenosis. He explained that nothing could cure
>> that but the shots could relieve the pain for a while. He told me
>> that back surgery won't help, it'll just lead to more surgeries. He
>> explained that back surgery is indicated for trauma from a damaging
>> accident, but will do nothing for pain from aging. We'll be there
>> Thurs. afternoon.
>
>Hope it helps! May be good that back surgery won't help. Opens the door
>for a lot of awful follow ups. Just finding a way to live with it is a
>lucky find. Wonder if there is any PT that can also help.
>
>jay

Soon enough I'll find out if it helps. A neurologist will tell you to
avoid surgery as all that does is create scar tissue necessitating
further surguries. A surgeon will recommend surgery, it becomes their
cash cow. Years ago the doctors at work urged me to stay away from
back surgery Twenty years ago most doctors prescribed opiates for
pain, I took a half dozen and tossed them. Advil and vodka works with
no addiction. Each morning I take 2 advil Minis, one more midday and
two at bedtime. After dinner I sip a Double D vodka with diet Sprite
and lots of ice in a large glass that can hold a dozen full size tray
ice cubes. I tried PT for a short while, that was no help but was
simply witch doctor agony, another cash cow for charlatans. Any YMCA
can orchestrate the same exercises at less than $30 per month.
Swimming and water aerobics helps with back pain, the Y does that,
however the nearest Y with a pool here is a sixty mile round trip. My
wife used to go to that Y but she said it's too far so she goes to one
ten miles from here, they have everything but the pool, and that pool
gave her constant sinus infections. I've been dealing with this back
pain for twenty years so I've learned what helps and what doesn't. At
75+ years old I know that nothing in medicine can reverse aging. All
one can do is stay active, maintain a proper diet, and have a positive
attitude... and rememember that laughter is the best remedy for all
that ails you. One of the main reasons we moved up here to the sticks
was to keep active. Moving to a condo in the south where someone does
everything for you was not for us. Everyone we knew who retired to a
warm weather condo never made the first year and were in hospice. Even
not having a pet is a major detriment, caring for a pet keeps one
active but more importantly maintains one's positive attitude to
live... loving pets gives one impetus to live.

Just now my wife returned from skiing and her long time friend took a
fall and was transported to a hospital in Albany, they won't release
her for several days, she obviously suffered a serious concusion...
they asked her who was the President and she didn't know... she didn't
remember that she was skiing. Her husband who is older is unable to
drive up here from NJ so her daughter is on her way. Skiing is
dangerous at any age but especially for seniors. I wish my wife would
give it up but they become addicted. She's addicted to golf too but
golf is far safer.

wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:04:35 +0000, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
>>>> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
>>>> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
>>>> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my
>>>> world.
>>>
>>> Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>>>
>>
>> I'll admit location, location, location affects pricing significantly
>> too, but even if I was as rich as Croesus I wouldn't pay that - even if I
>> thought I might like it. And... if somebody else is paying (who can
>> easily afford it) when we go to a 'fancy' restaurant I try and order the
>> most reasonably priced things I can eat from the menu. Furthermore, a lot
>> (not all) of these 'fancy' or 'speciality' restaurants charge a fortune,
>> but the portions are so small you are still hungry when you get home.
>
> Totally agree and they are getting greedier by the minute. The
> biggest resto rip off is booze, cocktails are so watered down with ice
> you may as well ask for plain water.
> I don't mind paying for the cooking, clean up, and service, but $65
> for a steak dinner is ridiculous when I can buy a better steak at a
> local market for under $10 a pound and cooking a steak requires little
> to no skill. Most any 12 year old boy scout can grill a steak better
> than a high end steakhouse and on a wood fire they built themself.
> When I did go out to eat it be for food I couldn't easily prepare at
> home and with ingredients I couldn't easily obtain near home. But for
> many years now restaurant foods are pre-prepared in factories and of
> poor quality ingredients. Nowadays salads come out of cello bag and
> dressing from a bottle. Today the steaks served at a high end
> steakhouse are comparable in quality to fast food burgers. Steaks are
> also from the freezer, as is seafood, so are fries. The last time I
> went to a high end restaurant was during the summer for the birthday
> of a woman in my wife's golf club. I decided on pork chops. The
> salad was prechopped from a bag, the dressing was probably wishbone
> served in a small plastic cup. However my pork chops were two half
> inch thick slices of boneless pork loin that I buy often at well under
> $2/lb. I didn't order any appetizer or dessert. The pork arrived
> with some sort of rice molded like from a muffin tin. My meal cost
> the least, $23! Robbery! I could have prepared better at home for
> like six bucks. I did order a Boodles dry mar2ni, was good but not
> worth the $13. I kept the cost of my meal low even though it was paid
> for from the golf club fund. I'll never eat at that rip off
> restaurant again, the cook sucks. the decor sucks, the seatng is
> extremely uncomfortable, and there is NO mountainview, all one can see
> from the windows is their parking lot and accross the road a
> dilapidated stockade fence for one of the last remaining drive-in
> movies. The mountains can only be seen from the kitchen window in the
> rear of the building. That building used to be an old butcher shop,
> still smells of butcher shop.
> https://www.mountainviewbrasserie.com/
> https://www.mountainviewbrasserie.com/menu/dinner/
>
>

Popeye, it sounds like yoose got slapped by the waitress when yoose
tried to get breastmilk. Yoose should just stick to yoose booze.

On 2019-01-22 4:21 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 3:56:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

>>> Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>>
>> It's part of the equation.
>
> Not solely by the cost of the materials. Labor is huge, especially
> in high-end restaurants. Rent (wasn't the subject restaurant in
> Manhattan?) is also a biggie.

Yes, of course labour is a big factor, but cost of ingredients ranks up
there. When you get the dinners with the more expensive ingredients the
relative cost of those ingredients is reflected in the price. There is
no more work to cooking a basic steak dinner than there is to cooking a
burger, but the difference in price is a lot more than just the
difference in cost of ingredients.

There is a local restaurant I will not return to. The last time I went
there was about 15 years ago and at that time they were charging $14.95
for vegetable soup. It was not sitting on prime downtown real estate.
It was a winery restaurant in the middle of a vineyard. What the hell
could they have been putting into that soup that it would cost that
much? Their wines were all over prices too. They did not have a vast
cellar of imported and cellared wines. They sold only their own wines.

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 8:31:43 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 02:05:24 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 3:14:50 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 11:06:37 -0700, jay > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 1/21/19 8:50 AM, ChattyCathy wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2yJQeVYv24
> >> >>
> >> >> I love fresh watermelon - but I'll pass on this. Even if I owned a smoker.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >CC, it looks pretty good! I may try making one next time I fire up the
> >> >pit in the spring.
> >> >
> >> >jay
> >>
> >> Might give it a try with one of those seedless dwarf sized warty
> >> melones, usually $3. With a large watermelon I like to scoop out the
> >> flesh with a melon baller, same with a cantelope and a persian
> >> melon... put it all back into the warty melone shell. add some grapes,
> >> whatever fruit you like and place it in the fridge over night and add
> >> a couple cups of vodka or bubbly champagne so it maserates over
> >> night... that I know is superb, never gets wasted, although some folks
> >> can't stop fressing until they are wasted.
> >>
> >> Today I went to a new neurosurgeon to see about getting epidural shots
> >> in my spine. My last doc picked up and moved the entire facility to
> >> Noo Joisey. This doctor came highly recommended. After reviewing my
> >> last MRI and givng me three back x-rays he gave me an appt. for the
> >> shots this Thurs at 3 PM. He knew my last doctor and the entire
> >> staff, plus reviewed all my reports on line. He seemed very confident
> >> that he could help me. he xplained that most of my pain was from
> >> arthritis and spinal stenosis. He explained that nothing could cure
> >> that but the shots could relieve the pain for a while. He told me
> >> that back surgery won't help, it'll just lead to more surgeries. He
> >> explained that back surgery is indicated for trauma from a damaging
> >> accident, but will do nothing for pain from aging. We'll be there
> >> Thurs. afternoon.
> >> On the way home we had to pass The Gold Coin, brought home a large
> >> corrigated carton of Chinese food (chinks), more than enough for
> >> tonight, tomorrow night, and and the next night. My wife said my spare
> >> ribs are much better, my fly lice is better too.
> >> Any way it was a very busy day, it went very fast.
> >
> >Last night I went to a Chinese restaurant with my son and his family. One of the things we had was beef broccoli cake noodle. Cake noodle is a local specialty that every Chinese restaurant in the state serves. Everyone on this rock loves that stuff! When the Hawaiians go to a Chinese restaurant on the mainland they are saddened to hear that nobody there knows what cake noodle is. That's the breaks.
> >
> >https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mLTbh8mqUh0dk5
>
> Cake noodle looks exactly like ramen... before cooking it's a hard
> cake.
>

Yes is does. I'm trying to figure out a way to turn a cheap package of ramen into cake noodle. That would be awesome!

On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 7:08:04 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-01-22 4:21 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Tuesday, January 22, 2019 at 3:56:12 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>
> >>> Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
> >>
> >> It's part of the equation.
> >
> > Not solely by the cost of the materials. Labor is huge, especially
> > in high-end restaurants. Rent (wasn't the subject restaurant in
> > Manhattan?) is also a biggie.
>
> Yes, of course labour is a big factor, but cost of ingredients ranks up
> there. When you get the dinners with the more expensive ingredients the
> relative cost of those ingredients is reflected in the price. There is
> no more work to cooking a basic steak dinner than there is to cooking a
> burger, but the difference in price is a lot more than just the
> difference in cost of ingredients.
>
> There is a local restaurant I will not return to. The last time I went
> there was about 15 years ago and at that time they were charging $14.95
> for vegetable soup. It was not sitting on prime downtown real estate.
> It was a winery restaurant in the middle of a vineyard. What the hell
> could they have been putting into that soup that it would cost that
> much? Their wines were all over prices too. They did not have a vast
> cellar of imported and cellared wines. They sold only their own wines.

"If I'm paying a lot for it, it must be really good." A lot of people
think that way. The "posh" factor. Is a Rolex really better than a
Timex? Is it 1000 times better?

Cindy Hamilton

On 1/22/19 3:09 PM, wrote:
> I tried PT for a short while, that was no help but was
> simply witch doctor agony, another cash cow for charlatans. Any YMCA
> can orchestrate the same exercises at less than $30 per month.

I've used PT for several different sports injuries and it worked
miracles. Had a knee issue from skiing and first doctor looked at me for
30 seconds and said I needed surgery. Never went back. Went for a
second opinion a real doctor told me that he recommend some PT and then
reevaluate. Took the advice and never needed to see him again. I didn't
have to pay a nickle out of pocket. The knee is still working. Also
I've been to several different PT folks and they are not all created
equal. One was actually just a cheer leader. Another had magic hands!

Sports activities are dangerous. The biggest danger about skiing is the
other idiots that are around you skiing or even worse snowboarding.
There are actually octogenarian ski racing teams. I asked one guy how he
can be still skiing he said "don't quit doing it." Like life.. you have
the ability to live a really long time .. just keep breathing and don't
die.

jay

On 2019-01-23 7:56 a.m., jay wrote:
> On 1/22/19 3:09 PM, wrote:
>> I tried PT for a short while, that was no help but was
>> simply witch doctor agony, another cash cow for charlatans.Â* Any YMCA
>> can orchestrate the same exercises at less than $30 per month.
>
> I've used PT for several different sports injuries and it worked
> miracles. Had a knee issue from skiing and first doctor looked at me for
> 30 seconds and said I needed surgery.Â* Never went back.Â* Went for a
> second opinion a real doctor told me that he recommend some PT and then
> reevaluate. Took the advice and never needed to see him again.Â* I didn't
> have to pay a nickle out of pocket. The knee is still working.Â* Also
> I've been to several different PT folks and they are not all created
> equal. One was actually just a cheer leader. Another had magic hands!
>
> Sports activities are dangerous. The biggest danger about skiing is the
> other idiots that are around you skiing or even worse snowboarding.
> There are actually octogenarian ski racing teams. I asked one guy how he
> can be still skiing he said "don't quit doing it."Â* Like life.. you have
> the ability to live a really long time .. just keep breathing and don't
> die.
>

I have been for physiotherapy a couple times and they worked wonders on
me. At one time I was off work for two months with a back injury. My
back is now better than it ever was. My friend has been twice in the
last year. The first time was for a rotator cuff that was not improving
with mild exercise. Three sessions of PT and he was over it. A couple
months ago he had a sort of sciatica problem. He could not sit for more
than a couple minutes without extreme pain. He was treading his upcoming
trip to New Zealand. He went to PT, got the massages and exercise
program and within two weeks he was better.

Chiropractors, OTOH, I have no faith in. I know lots of people who
visit their chiropractors regularly. They get temporary relief, but
they have to keep going back for years.

Sheldon wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:04:35 +0000, ChattyCathy
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 03:17:22 -0800, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, January 21, 2019 at 5:31:11 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> I have to agree. I would not expect it to be horrible, but.....$75???
>>>> WTF. The melon would be maybe $5, some salt and sugar. I might pay $2-3
>>>> for a slice but they said this thing feeds 3-5, so were looking at
>>>> splitting one for something in the range of $20 a pop. Not in my
>>>> world.
>>>
>>> Restaurant pricing is not driven by the cost of the raw materials.
>>>
>>
>> I'll admit location, location, location affects pricing significantly
>> too, but even if I was as rich as Croesus I wouldn't pay that - even if I
>> thought I might like it. And... if somebody else is paying (who can
>> easily afford it) when we go to a 'fancy' restaurant I try and order the
>> most reasonably priced things I can eat from the menu. Furthermore, a lot
>> (not all) of these 'fancy' or 'speciality' restaurants charge a fortune,
>> but the portions are so small you are still hungry when you get home.
>
> Totally agree and they are getting greedier by the minute. The
> biggest resto rip off is booze, cocktails are so watered down with ice
> you may as well ask for plain water.
>
You told me that YOU were a watermelon when
you tried to convince me to swallow your seed.

Jill