When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:51:29 -0600, Mother of Seven
> wrote:

>When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.

Just vote a bit smarter next time.

On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>
That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the
gov't dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>>
> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the
> gov't dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>
Troll, for sure. However, the government shutdown *is* affecting some
folks who get SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The staff isn't there to
process new applications or renewals. I saw something on a "local" news
station yesterday about food banks ramping up requests for donations to
help cover gaps for those who haven't had funds deposited into their
SNAP accounts due to the shutdown. The lucky ones have a balance on
their accounts and won't have to worry about it until those funds are
depleted. But the longer this drags on, the worse it will get.

The asshole in the White House is screwing over the whole country with
his shenanigans.

BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
when they were starving. Prisoner of war camps come to mind.

Jill

On 1/23/2019 9:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:

>
> BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
> when they were starving.Â* Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>
> Jill

They still eat them. Andrew Zimmern had a bit about it on a show from
Vietnam. The ones that feed in the rice paddies have a cleaner taste.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:48:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/23/2019 9:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>
>> BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
>> when they were starving.* Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>>
>> Jill
>
>They still eat them. Andrew Zimmern had a bit about it on a show from
>Vietnam. The ones that feed in the rice paddies have a cleaner taste.

One of my uncles was a prisoner in Changhi jail, eating rats was a
luxury - he said he never thought about rats in the same way again!
Another uncle who was a prisoner in Nagasaki reported the same thing.

For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
country.

I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.

N.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:32:20 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> wrote:

>For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>country.
>
>I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>
>N.

he is uncaring. his eye is set on a wall that will bear his name as a
memorial.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:28:32 -0500, jmcquown wrote:

> On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>>> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>>> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>>> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>>> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>>> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>>>
>> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the
>> gov't dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>>
> Troll, for sure. However, the government shutdown *is* affecting some
> folks who get SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The staff isn't there to
> process new applications or renewals.

That's for people who missed the January 14th deadline for their
6-month renewals if they were due to be re-certified for February.
Many of the stories we've heard have been skewed and simplified. As
it turns out, 99% of SNAP recipients actually got MORE benefits than
normal since they distributed February's benefits on January 20th.
But once they did that, they are officially out of money.

Nobody's SNAP benefits have been cut or missed yet. Only if you
didn't file for re-certification in time, then you may miss benefits
starting February 1st.

-sw

On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
> country.
>
He's all about power. He's stomping his feet like a kid who is throwing
a tantrum. I didn't get my way, so there! Who elected this child?

I truly hope he is not invited to make the State of the Union address.
Yes, technically he has to be *invited*. It harks back to old
Parliamentary procedures in England.

The Queen must be invited into the House of Commons before they open
Parliament. So must the President be *invited* to give the State of the
Union address by the Speaker of the House. I sincerely hope he's not
given yet another platform in which to rail about this stupid Wall.

> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>
> N.
>
Ditto, N.

Jill

On 1/23/2019 10:56 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:32:20 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
> > wrote:
>
>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>> country.
>>
>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>
>> N.
>
> he is uncaring. his eye is set on a wall that will bear his name as a
> memorial.
>
Maybe he hopes to be buried next to it and an actual memorial built. A
monument doesn't have to be in Washington, DC, does it? Lincoln,
Jefferson, Washington, Roosevelt, Buchanan... no reason his couldn't be
on the border. LOL

Jill

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>>
> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the gov't
> dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>
Troll, for sure. However, the government shutdown *is* affecting some
folks who get SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The staff isn't there to
process new applications or renewals. I saw something on a "local" news
station yesterday about food banks ramping up requests for donations to
help cover gaps for those who haven't had funds deposited into their
SNAP accounts due to the shutdown. The lucky ones have a balance on
their accounts and won't have to worry about it until those funds are
depleted. But the longer this drags on, the worse it will get.

The asshole in the White House is screwing over the whole country with
his shenanigans.

BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
when they were starving. Prisoner of war camps come to mind.

Jill

==

I was wondering how the rat go into the microwave oven, when 'she' had to
open the door to see it ...

On 1/23/2019 11:00 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:28:32 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>>>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>>>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>>>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>>>> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>>>> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>>>> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>>>> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>>>> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>>>>
>>> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the
>>> gov't dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>>>
>> Troll, for sure. However, the government shutdown *is* affecting some
>> folks who get SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The staff isn't there to
>> process new applications or renewals.
>
> That's for people who missed the January 14th deadline for their
> 6-month renewals if they were due to be re-certified for February.
> Many of the stories we've heard have been skewed and simplified. As
> it turns out, 99% of SNAP recipients actually got MORE benefits than
> normal since they distributed February's benefits on January 20th.
> But once they did that, they are officially out of money.
>
> Nobody's SNAP benefits have been cut or missed yet. Only if you
> didn't file for re-certification in time, then you may miss benefits
> starting February 1st.
>
> -sw
>
That's entirely true, but if this shutdown drags on and people have used
up what is in their account without another deposit until who knows
when... The idiot in the White House is screwing with a lot of peoples
lives for no good reason.

Jill

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 Mother of Seven wrote:
>
>When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.

How about getting a J O B... one that doesn't necessitate spreading
your legs.

On 1/23/2019 10:18 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 09:48:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2019 9:28 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
>>> when they were starving.Â* Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> They still eat them. Andrew Zimmern had a bit about it on a show from
>> Vietnam. The ones that feed in the rice paddies have a cleaner taste.
>
> One of my uncles was a prisoner in Changhi jail, eating rats was a
> luxury - he said he never thought about rats in the same way again!
> Another uncle who was a prisoner in Nagasaki reported the same thing.
>
My father was never a prisoner of war but he mentioned he saw the poor
villagers he encountered in Vietnam would eat. And in Korea before
that. Cooking over braisers in small huts.

You don't want rats to get at your grain or vegetables. So you kill
them. If you don't have any other source of meat, you skin and roast
them. A source of protein that didn't have to be hunted down when there
were enemy troops around.

Jill

On 1/23/2019 11:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>>>
>> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the
>> gov't dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>>
> Troll, for sure.
>
> BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
> when they were starving.Â* Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> I was wondering how the rat go into the microwave oven, when 'she' had
> to open the door to see it ...
>

I wondered about that, too. My microwave is built-in. Nothing can get
in or out unless I leave the door open (which I don't). It's a
completely enclosed space so there's no way for a rat to get in there.
Nor into the actual oven below it, come to think of it.

Jill

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 11:23:22 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

snip
>>
>That's entirely true, but if this shutdown drags on and people have used
>up what is in their account without another deposit until who knows
>when... The idiot in the White House is screwing with a lot of peoples
>lives for no good reason.
>
>Jill

the only value these people have to him is as a tool. no one has any
value to him except how they may be used. the only people who still
support him are those who would operate as he does if they could.
Janet US

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

On 1/23/2019 11:13 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>
> On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>>>
>> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the
>> gov't dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>>
> Troll, for sure.
> BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
> when they were starving. Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>
> Jill
>
> ==
>
> I was wondering how the rat go into the microwave oven, when 'she' had to
> open the door to see it ...
>

I wondered about that, too. My microwave is built-in. Nothing can get
in or out unless I leave the door open (which I don't). It's a
completely enclosed space so there's no way for a rat to get in there.
Nor into the actual oven below it, come to think of it.

Jill

==

Exactly and even if you leave the door open, how does mr rat close it??
Hmmm?? ;p

On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
> country.
>
> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>
> N.
>
Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
sort.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:19:23 +0000, Ophelia wrote:

>
> Exactly and even if you leave the door open, how does mr rat close
> it??
> Hmmm?? ;p


Wiff his widdle paws? ;-)

I thought it was a pretty amusing troll. hehe

--
Cheers
Chatty Cathy

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 11:08:03 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/23/2019 10:56 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:32:20 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>>> country.
>>>
>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>>
>>> N.
>>
>> he is uncaring. his eye is set on a wall that will bear his name as a
>> memorial.
>>
>Maybe he hopes to be buried next to it and an actual memorial built. A
>monument doesn't have to be in Washington, DC, does it? Lincoln,
>Jefferson, Washington, Roosevelt, Buchanan... no reason his couldn't be
>on the border. LOL
>
>Jill

I just read this
From the NY Times
" In October, the Homeland Security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen,
visited to unveil a plaque crediting the president with the barrier."
Janet US

On 2019-01-23 11:58 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 11:08:03 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2019 10:56 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:32:20 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>
>>> he is uncaring. his eye is set on a wall that will bear his name as a
>>> memorial.
>>>
>> Maybe he hopes to be buried next to it and an actual memorial built. A
>> monument doesn't have to be in Washington, DC, does it? Lincoln,
>> Jefferson, Washington, Roosevelt, Buchanan... no reason his couldn't be
>> on the border. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>
> I just read this
> From the NY Times
> " In October, the Homeland Security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen,
> visited to unveil a plaque crediting the president with the barrier."
> Janet US
>
If only his mother had had one!

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>> country.
>>
>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>
>> N.
>>
>Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>sort.

that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
by the generosity of others.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:13:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>
>On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>>> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>>> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>>> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>>> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>>> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>>>
>> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the gov't
>> dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>>
>Troll, for sure. However, the government shutdown *is* affecting some
>folks who get SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The staff isn't there to
>process new applications or renewals. I saw something on a "local" news
>station yesterday about food banks ramping up requests for donations to
>help cover gaps for those who haven't had funds deposited into their
>SNAP accounts due to the shutdown. The lucky ones have a balance on
>their accounts and won't have to worry about it until those funds are
>depleted. But the longer this drags on, the worse it will get.
>
>The asshole in the White House is screwing over the whole country with
>his shenanigans.
>
>BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
>when they were starving. Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>
>Jill
>
>==
>
>I was wondering how the rat go into the microwave oven, when 'she' had to
>open the door to see it ...

I doubt that the tale was meant to be taken literally. It's more like
Aesops fables, meant to demonstrate.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:13:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>
>On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>>> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>>> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>>> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>>> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>>> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>>>
>> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the
>> gov't
>> dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>>
>Troll, for sure. However, the government shutdown *is* affecting some
>folks who get SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The staff isn't there to
>process new applications or renewals. I saw something on a "local" news
>station yesterday about food banks ramping up requests for donations to
>help cover gaps for those who haven't had funds deposited into their
>SNAP accounts due to the shutdown. The lucky ones have a balance on
>their accounts and won't have to worry about it until those funds are
>depleted. But the longer this drags on, the worse it will get.
>
>The asshole in the White House is screwing over the whole country with
>his shenanigans.
>
>BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
>when they were starving. Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>
>Jill
>
>==
>
>I was wondering how the rat go into the microwave oven, when 'she' had to
>open the door to see it ...

I doubt that the tale was meant to be taken literally. It's more like
Aesops fables, meant to demonstrate.
=

I guessed

On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>>> country.
>>>
>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>> sort.
>
> that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
> food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
> by the generosity of others.
>
Landlords can only carry a person/family for so long. They've got their
own expenses to cover. The rent may be deferred but eventually it will
have to be paid or yes, people will be evicted.

Jill

On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>>> country.
>>>
>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>>
>>> N.
>>>
>> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>> sort.
>
> that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
> food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
> by the generosity of others.
>

In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.

Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.

Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
reality.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>>> sort.
>>
>> that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
>> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>> food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
>> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>> by the generosity of others.
>>
>
>In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
>yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
>people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
>because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
>paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>
>Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
>be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
>house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
>
>Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
>reality.

I see you are among the "paid vacation" crowd.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>>>> country.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>>>
>>>> N.
>>>>
>>> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>>> sort.
>>
>> that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
>> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>> food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
>> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>> by the generosity of others.
>>
>
>In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
>yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
>people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
>because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
>paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>
>Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
>be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
>house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
>
>Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
>reality.

It happened to my son in the coast guard a year or so ago. The
federal government changed their computer system and many pay cheques
went awry or did not show up. He went a couple of months without pay
and his bank manager was pretty understanding, as far as he could be,
but there are limits. By month three there was little understanding.
We all helped bail him out and then fortunately he started receiving
most of his pay cheque again and it was resolved.

So yes, the people owed the money by the gov. workers know,
understand, but there is a limit. I am truly sorry for those
workers, having seen what my son went through, it will be the same for
them, even if, in the end it is resolved.

That anyone could do this so randomly is hateful and I fail to
understand his callousness.

On 1/23/2019 6:27 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>>>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>>>>> country.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> N.
>>>>>
>>>> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>>>> sort.
>>>
>>> that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
>>> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>>> food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
>>> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>>> by the generosity of others.
>>>
>>
>> In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
>> yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
>> people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
>> because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
>> paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>>
>> Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
>> be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
>> house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
>>
>> Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
>> reality.
>
> I see you are among the "paid vacation" crowd.
>
The assumption is these "furloughed" employees and their families have
savings to fall back on. I doubt that is the case with a lot of them.
Even if the bank or landlord lets them slide on a few payments or offers
zero interest loans, the money will still have to be paid back. That
will keep them scrambling to catch up on payments when this mess is
finally over.

Jill

wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> >On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
> >>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
> >>>> country.
> >>>>
> >>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
> >>>>
> >>>> N.
> >>>>
> >>> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
> >>> sort.
> >>
> >> that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
> >> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
> >> food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
> >> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
> >> by the generosity of others.
> >>
> >
> >In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
> >yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
> >people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
> >because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
> >paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
> >
> >Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
> >be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
> >house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
> >
> >Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
> >reality.
>
> It happened to my son in the coast guard a year or so ago. The
> federal government changed their computer system and many pay cheques
> went awry or did not show up. He went a couple of months without pay
> and his bank manager was pretty understanding, as far as he could be,
> but there are limits. By month three there was little understanding.
> We all helped bail him out and then fortunately he started receiving
> most of his pay cheque again and it was resolved.
>
> So yes, the people owed the money by the gov. workers know,
> understand, but there is a limit. I am truly sorry for those
> workers, having seen what my son went through, it will be the same for
> them, even if, in the end it is resolved.
>
> That anyone could do this so randomly is hateful and I fail to
> understand their callousness.


Yes, I heartily agree with you, it is very squalid behaviours that the US Democratic Party leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are now engaging in....the fact that they refuse to even to come to the table to negotiate to end the US government shut - down is a *real* moral stain upon them - for SHAME...!!!

--
Best
Greg

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
> >>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
> >>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
> >>> country.
> >>>
> >>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
> >>>
> >>> N.
> >>>
> >> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
> >> sort.
> >
> > that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
> > about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
> > food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
> > individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
> > by the generosity of others.
> >
>
> In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
> yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
> people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
> because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
> paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.


Yup...and meanwhiles many of them will be working anyways during the lull to tide them over, since unemployment is at *record* lows, there are TONS of jobs out there, anyone poor - mouthing about having "no income" is simply lazy...or pushing an anti - Trump "agenda"...


> Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
> be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
> house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.


It is very expensive and a lengthy process to evict someone...and anyways most places do not permit eviction during the cold northern winter months...


> Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
> reality.


Yup...*exactly*...

--
Best
Greg

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:38:01 -0800 (PST), GM
> wrote:

wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>> >On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> >>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>> >>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>> >>>> country.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> N.
>> >>>>
>> >>> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>> >>> sort.
>> >>
>> >> that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
>> >> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>> >> food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
>> >> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>> >> by the generosity of others.
>> >>
>> >
>> >In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
>> >yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
>> >people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
>> >because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
>> >paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>> >
>> >Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
>> >be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
>> >house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
>> >
>> >Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
>> >reality.
>>
>> It happened to my son in the coast guard a year or so ago. The
>> federal government changed their computer system and many pay cheques
>> went awry or did not show up. He went a couple of months without pay
>> and his bank manager was pretty understanding, as far as he could be,
>> but there are limits. By month three there was little understanding.
>> We all helped bail him out and then fortunately he started receiving
>> most of his pay cheque again and it was resolved.
>>
>> So yes, the people owed the money by the gov. workers know,
>> understand, but there is a limit. I am truly sorry for those
>> workers, having seen what my son went through, it will be the same for
>> them, even if, in the end it is resolved.
>>
>> That anyone could do this so randomly is hateful and I fail to
>> understand their callousness.
>
>
>Yes, I heartily agree with you, it is very squalid behaviours that the US Democratic Party leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are now engaging in...the fact that they refuse to even to come to the table to negotiate to end the US government shut - down is a *real* moral stain upon them - for SHAME...!!!

Amazing. You don't have to be left wing to see that Trump's way too
immature to run anything, let alone a country.

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:45:10 -0800 (PST), GM
> wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>> >>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the President seems totally
>> >>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the business world all over the
>> >>> country.
>> >>>
>> >>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes because of this.
>> >>>
>> >>> N.
>> >>>
>> >> Doubt that will happen. Just about every bank is offering help of some
>> >> sort.
>> >
>> > that is a pretty comfortable view to take My news channels tell
>> > about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>> > food money, gas money etc. I'm not disputing that there are those
>> > individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>> > by the generosity of others.
>> >
>>
>> In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
>> yes, I do know how it is. I've been out of work with no job. These
>> people will have a job and back pay. Much of what you see is hype
>> because it makes for a good news story. For some it will amount to a
>> paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>
>
>Yup...and meanwhiles many of them will be working anyways during the lull to tide them over, since unemployment is at *record* lows, there are TONS of jobs out there, anyone poor - mouthing about having "no income" is simply lazy...or pushing an anti - Trump "agenda"...
>
>
>> Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
>> be evicted that easily under the circumstances. If someone loses their
>> house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
>
>
>It is very expensive and a lengthy process to evict someone...and anyways most places do not permit eviction during the cold northern winter months...
>
>
>> Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
>> reality.
>
>
>Yup...*exactly*...

You DO let politics get in the way. You only defend the man-child in
the White House because you feel he's right-wing. But he doesn't care
about Republicans or Democrats. He only cares about himself.

On 1/23/2019 3:02 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:13:54 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "jmcquown" wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 1/23/2019 7:23 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2019 12:51 AM, Mother of Seven wrote:
>>>> When I opened my microwave oven this morning, there was a rat inside. I
>>>> was going to get my husband's rifle, but did not want to make a hole in
>>>> the microwave. So I just slammed the door again, and turned on the
>>>> power. I cooked that rat for 10 minutes on high. Not only did that kill
>>>> it, but it looks like it's well cooked. I just wonder if they are
>>>> edible? My kids are hungry, so everything I can feed them helps. Ever
>>>> since the government shutdown, I am no longer able to get WIC food for
>>>> the kids and our food stamps have beeen cut too.
>>>>
>>> That's bullshit and you're a troll . I know people who depend on the gov't
>>> dole , and neither their food stamps nor their WIC have been cut .
>>>
>> Troll, for sure. However, the government shutdown *is* affecting some
>> folks who get SNAP (food stamps) benefits. The staff isn't there to
>> process new applications or renewals. I saw something on a "local" news
>> station yesterday about food banks ramping up requests for donations to
>> help cover gaps for those who haven't had funds deposited into their
>> SNAP accounts due to the shutdown. The lucky ones have a balance on
>> their accounts and won't have to worry about it until those funds are
>> depleted. But the longer this drags on, the worse it will get.
>>
>> The asshole in the White House is screwing over the whole country with
>> his shenanigans.
>>
>> BTW, I'm pretty sure people have been in situations where they ate rats
>> when they were starving. Prisoner of war camps come to mind.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I was wondering how the rat go into the microwave oven, when 'she' had to
>> open the door to see it ...
>
> I doubt that the tale was meant to be taken literally. It's more like
> Aesops fables, meant to demonstrate.
>
Allegorical. A creative troll.

Jill

On 1/23/2019 7:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/23/2019 6:27 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the
>>>>>> President seems totally
>>>>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the
>>>>>> business world all over the
>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their homes
>>>>>> because of this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Doubt that will happen.Â* Just about every bank is offering help of
>>>>> some
>>>>> sort.
>>>>
>>>> that is a pretty comfortable view to takeÂ* MyÂ* news channels tell
>>>> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>>>> food money, gas money etc.Â* I'm not disputing that there are those
>>>> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>>>> by the generosity of others.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
>>> yes, I do know how it is.Â* I've been out of work with no job.Â* These
>>> people will have a job and back pay.Â* Much of what you see is hype
>>> because it makes for a good news story.Â* For some it will amount to a
>>> paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>>>
>>> Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
>>> be evicted that easily under the circumstances.Â* If someone loses their
>>> house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
>>>
>>> Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the way of
>>> reality.
>>
>> I see you are among the "paid vacation" crowd.
>>
> The assumption is these "furloughed" employees and their families have
> savings to fall back on.Â* I doubt that is the case with a lot of them.
> Even if the bank or landlord lets them slide on a few payments or offers
> zero interest loans, the money will still have to be paid back.Â* That
> will keep them scrambling to catch up on payments when this mess is
> finally over.
>
> Jill
In the past they got back pay. No money lost so the funds to pay back
will be there. Yes, it is an inconvenience, but not financial ruin.

On 1/23/2019 7:02 PM, wrote:

>
> That anyone could do this so randomly is hateful and I fail to
> understand his callousness.
>

Seems like both side have dug in deep. Trump did offer compromise and
it was rejected. No counter offer, no compromise. Trump started it,
but both sides are to blame now, IMO.

On 1/23/2019 10:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/23/2019 7:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 6:27 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the
>>>>>>> President seems totally
>>>>>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the
>>>>>>> business world all over the
>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their
>>>>>>> homes because of this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Doubt that will happen.Â* Just about every bank is offering help of
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> sort.
>>>>>
>>>>> that is a pretty comfortable view to takeÂ* MyÂ* news channels tell
>>>>> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>>>>> food money, gas money etc.Â* I'm not disputing that there are those
>>>>> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>>>>> by the generosity of others.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck times so
>>>> yes, I do know how it is.Â* I've been out of work with no job.Â* These
>>>> people will have a job and back pay.Â* Much of what you see is hype
>>>> because it makes for a good news story.Â* For some it will amount to a
>>>> paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>>>>
>>>> Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can not
>>>> be evicted that easily under the circumstances.Â* If someone loses their
>>>> house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few months.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the
>>>> way of
>>>> reality.
>>>
>>> I see you are among the "paid vacation" crowd.
>>>
>> The assumption is these "furloughed" employees and their families have
>> savings to fall back on.Â* I doubt that is the case with a lot of them.
>> Even if the bank or landlord lets them slide on a few payments or
>> offers zero interest loans, the money will still have to be paid
>> back.Â* That will keep them scrambling to catch up on payments when
>> this mess is finally over.
>>
>> Jill
> In the past they got back pay.Â* No money lost so the funds to pay back
> will be there.Â* Yes, it is an inconvenience, but not financial ruin.

Okay, I see we disagree on this. Of course they'll get back pay. But
in the meantime they still need to buy food, pay the electric bill and
all the other silly little things people are used to having. The
electric company might not be so understanding when half the grid stops
paying their bills. Whose paying for the upkeep in the meantime when
the bills aren't being paid?

Jill

On 2019-01-23 8:28 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/23/2019 10:01 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/23/2019 7:29 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 1/23/2019 6:27 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 18:17:21 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/23/2019 3:00 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:34:23 -0500, Ed Pawlowski >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 1/23/2019 10:32 AM, Nancy2 wrote:
>>>>>>>> For someone who allegedly was a really smart businessman, the
>>>>>>>> President seems totally
>>>>>>>> unaware and/or uncaring about what the shutdown is doing to the
>>>>>>>> business world all over the
>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish I were in a position to help those who may lose their
>>>>>>>> homes because of this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> N.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doubt that will happen.Â* Just about every bank is offering help
>>>>>>> of some
>>>>>>> sort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that is a pretty comfortable view to takeÂ* MyÂ* news channels tell
>>>>>> about landlords promising eviction, furloughed workers hunting for
>>>>>> food money, gas money etc.Â* I'm not disputing that there are those
>>>>>> individuals and companies that are helping out, but not all a covered
>>>>>> by the generosity of others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In my younger days there were a couple of paycheck to paycheck
>>>>> times so
>>>>> yes, I do know how it is.Â* I've been out of work with no job.Â* These
>>>>> people will have a job and back pay.Â* Much of what you see is hype
>>>>> because it makes for a good news story.Â* For some it will amount to a
>>>>> paid vacation, though the pay will be much later.
>>>>>
>>>>> Houses are not foreclosed because you are a month late. tenants can
>>>>> not
>>>>> be evicted that easily under the circumstances.Â* If someone loses
>>>>> their
>>>>> house it is because they have already been in trouble for a few
>>>>> months.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it will be tough for some, but don't let politics get in the
>>>>> way of
>>>>> reality.
>>>>
>>>> I see you are among the "paid vacation" crowd.
>>>>
>>> The assumption is these "furloughed" employees and their families
>>> have savings to fall back on.Â* I doubt that is the case with a lot of
>>> them. Even if the bank or landlord lets them slide on a few payments
>>> or offers zero interest loans, the money will still have to be paid
>>> back.Â* That will keep them scrambling to catch up on payments when
>>> this mess is finally over.
>>>
>>> Jill
>> In the past they got back pay.Â* No money lost so the funds to pay back
>> will be there.Â* Yes, it is an inconvenience, but not financial ruin.
>
> Okay, I see we disagree on this.Â* Of course they'll get back pay.Â* But
> in the meantime they still need to buy food, pay the electric bill and
> all the other silly little things people are used to having.Â* The
> electric company might not be so understanding when half the grid stops
> paying their bills.Â* Whose paying for the upkeep in the meantime when
> the bills aren't being paid?
>
> Jill
And there's the little matter of late fees too!

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 22:04:38 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/23/2019 7:02 PM, wrote:
>
>>
>> That anyone could do this so randomly is hateful and I fail to
>> understand his callousness.
>>
>
>Seems like both side have dug in deep. Trump did offer compromise and
>it was rejected. No counter offer, no compromise. Trump started it,
>but both sides are to blame now, IMO.

Trump never offered a compromise. You've been fooled by spin, Mr
Reasonable.