The new fridge arrived yesterday. To my wife's delight, this one has
the bottom mount freezer. I ordered it on Monday and was told it would
likely be 2-3 weeks before delivery, depending on the manufacturer's
warehouse stock. I was surprised to get a call on Thursday saying it was
scheduled for delivery on Saturday.

I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
sits in the corner with the wall to the left. I was told there is a $20
charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.

When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen. I
told them I was still on hold. The guy said he could mount it on the
other side for me but that I would have to move the handle. Then the
third guy said he would do the handle. The job that I was being charged
for was about 2 minutes more work than just remounted it to the factory
spec. They had a socket on a drill. The hinge bracket was already off.
All he had to do was to pop out three plugs, turn the bracket upside
down, screw the bolts in on the other side and then plug the holes from
the original spot. The handle came off with an Allen key and two bolts.
Meanwhile, my wife dug out the bill and it turned out the reason it had
not been reversed at the warehouse was that the saleswoman had forgotten
to put it on the bill and I had nor paid for it after all, so I ended up
getting that little extra for free.


I had to let it sit level for an hour before we started it up. Glad to
say it came on with no problem. When we loaded the food into it I stuck
in some freshly filled ice cube trays. They were frozen solid within two
hours.

I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 12:21:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:



>
>I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
>sits in the corner with the wall to the left. I was told there is a $20
>charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.
>
>When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
>told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
>the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
>them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
>Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen.

That should not have been an issue. Fridges are made to be change and
it takes minutes. I'm surprised they even tried to charge you for it.


>
>I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
> freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
>out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>
>
We've had two top freezer, one side by side, and now on the second
French door with bottom freezer. I'd never go back.

The top freezer just takes prime viewing space from the portion you
use the most, one or two shelves in the fridge.

Side by side was OK on the fridge side, but the freezer was narrow and
awkward for a lot of things. IMO< you made the right call for bottom
freezer. It is only opened about 1/20th the time you go into the
fridge so that should be the easiest to access.

On 2019-02-10 2:30 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 12:21:32 -0500, Dave Smith

>> When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
>> told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
>> the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
>> them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
>> Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen.
>
> That should not have been an issue. Fridges are made to be change and
> it takes minutes. I'm surprised they even tried to charge you for it.

I was surprised too. As it turned out, I had not been charged. The guys
did it because I said I had paid for it. I would have been ****ed if
they had not because the door was off and the hinge was off. It
required only that they pop out the plugs on the left side, stick them
into the holes on the other side and then mount the hinges on the left
instead of the right. We are a matter of seconds.



>> I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
>> freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
>> out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>>
>>
> We've had two top freezer, one side by side, and now on the second
> French door with bottom freezer. I'd never go back.


Years ago we had a side by side with French doors. I did not like it.
Part of my dissatisfaction was due to the layout of the kitchen. The
fridge is in the corner and the table is there, making it a little
awkward. It would not have been much of an issue of the table was not
there. The bigger problem was the width. There wasn't room for a decent
sized turkey and the narrowness and shelving led to a lot of wasted
space. If the fridge was in a different location the French doors on a
full width fridge would work well.


>
> The top freezer just takes prime viewing space from the portion you
> use the most, one or two shelves in the fridge.


Yes indeed. It is so much easier to see things in the fridge.
>
> Side by side was OK on the fridge side, but the freezer was
narrow and
> awkward for a lot of things. IMO< you made the right call for bottom
> freezer. It is only opened about 1/20th the time you go into the
> fridge so that should be the easiest to access.
>

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 7:19:53 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> The new fridge arrived yesterday. To my wife's delight, this one has
> the bottom mount freezer. I ordered it on Monday and was told it would
> likely be 2-3 weeks before delivery, depending on the manufacturer's
> warehouse stock. I was surprised to get a call on Thursday saying it was
> scheduled for delivery on Saturday.
>
> I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
> sits in the corner with the wall to the left. I was told there is a $20
> charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.
>
> When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
> told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
> the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
> them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
> Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen. I
> told them I was still on hold. The guy said he could mount it on the
> other side for me but that I would have to move the handle. Then the
> third guy said he would do the handle. The job that I was being charged
> for was about 2 minutes more work than just remounted it to the factory
> spec. They had a socket on a drill. The hinge bracket was already off.
> All he had to do was to pop out three plugs, turn the bracket upside
> down, screw the bolts in on the other side and then plug the holes from
> the original spot. The handle came off with an Allen key and two bolts.
> Meanwhile, my wife dug out the bill and it turned out the reason it had
> not been reversed at the warehouse was that the saleswoman had forgotten
> to put it on the bill and I had nor paid for it after all, so I ended up
> getting that little extra for free.
>
>
> I had to let it sit level for an hour before we started it up. Glad to
> say it came on with no problem. When we loaded the food into it I stuck
> in some freshly filled ice cube trays. They were frozen solid within two
> hours.
>
> I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
> freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
> out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.

Congrats on your new fridge. Hopefully, it will prove to be relatively trouble free.

My wife and I were working on our fridge yesterday. The nylon bushing on the hinge pin on one side had crapped out causing a bunch of problems: the center door seal wouldn't engage, the ice maker to ice dispenser seal wouldn't seal, the freezer gasket wouldn't wouldn't seal because rust from the hinge pin grinding itself to death would clump on the magnetic gasket. This machine has been just a bunch of trouble for us. It's one unlucky machine!

On 2/10/2019 12:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> The new fridge arrived yesterday.Â* To my wife's delight, this one has
> the bottom mount freezer.

Was this a surprise? Sounds like she know before it was delivered.

> I ordered it on Monday and was told it would
> likely be 2-3 weeks before delivery, depending on the manufacturer's
> warehouse stock. I was surprised to get a call on Thursday saying it was
> scheduled for delivery on Saturday.

That was fast ... assuming your old one hadn't crapped out. BTDT.

> I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
> sits in the corner with the wall to the left.Â* I was told there is a $20
> charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.

> the original spot.Â* The handle came off with an Allen key and two bolts.
> Meanwhile, my wife dug out theÂ* bill and it turned out the reason it had
> not been reversed at the warehouse was that the saleswoman had forgotten
> to put it on the bill and I had nor paid for it after all, so I ended up
> getting that little extra for free.

Nice, though I'd have tipped the guy.

Congrats on the new fridge.

nancy

On 2019-02-10 7:54 p.m., Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/10/2019 12:21 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> I ordered it on Monday and was told it would likely be 2-3 weeks
>> before delivery, depending on the manufacturer's warehouse stock. I
>> was surprised to get a call on Thursday saying it was scheduled for
>> delivery on Saturday.
>
> That was fast ... assuming your old one hadn't crapped out.Â* BTDT.

Yes, it was fast. The old one was still functioning so it was not an
emergency. I had actually been out shopping for a new fridge a year or
two ago and just never got around to actually ordering one. The old one
was about 20 years old. The door seals were falling about. Last week
my wife opened the freezer and the bracket on the door shelf broke. I
got it back into place and we had planned to nurse it along until the
replacement came. I was told 2-3 weeks for delivery, so I was surprised
when it arrived in only 5 days.


I hope this is it for appliances for a while. In December we spent $300
on a repair on the washing machine. On Christmas morning the dryer died.
Just after the new dryer arrived an infinity switch on the stove
seized up. I had been planning to get a new oven anyway, so instead of
paying $100 or more for a repair I ordered a new one. It was just days
after the new oven arrived that the old fridge announced that it was
going to start falling about.

Tonight's dinnerm 1" THK pork chops... delicious!

https://postimg.cc/gallery/1gttbata2/

On 2/10/2019 8:28 PM, wrote:
> Tonight's dinnerm 1" THK pork chops... delicious!
>
> https://postimg.cc/gallery/1gttbata2/
>
I would eat the chop but you may keep the beans. (I prefer beans in soup).

Jill

On 2/10/2019 8:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-02-10 7:54 p.m., Nancy Young wrote:

>> That was fast ... assuming your old one hadn't crapped out.Â* BTDT.
>
> Yes, it was fast. The old one was still functioning so it was not an
> emergency. I had actually been out shopping for a new fridge a year or
> two ago and just never got around to actually ordering one. The old one
> wasÂ* about 20 years old. The door seals were falling about.Â* Last week
> my wife opened the freezer and the bracket on the door shelf broke.Â* I
> got it back into place and we had planned to nurse it along until the
> replacement came. I was told 2-3 weeks for delivery, so I was surprised
> when it arrived in only 5 days.

Yeah, that refrigerator was giving you all the signs, I'm tired, let
me retire. We replace our refrigerators when we get any sign it might
go, once we were in a tough spot because ours died. The store actually
gave us a loaner.

Also, try finding a side by side without water and ice in the door.
Next to no options so it has to be ordered. We can't just walk into
an appliance store and arrange delivery from stock.

> I hope this is it for appliances for a while.Â* In December we spent $300
> on a repair on the washing machine. On Christmas morning the dryer died.
> Â*Just after the new dryer arrived an infinity switch on the stove
> seized up. I had been planning to get a new oven anyway, so instead of
> paying $100 or more for a repair I ordered a new one.Â* It was just days
> after the new oven arrived that the old fridge announced that it was
> going to start falling about.

That does seem to be the way things go. All at once like that. Or ...
your house wants you out? hmmmm

nancy

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 8:29:28 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> On 2/10/2019 8:28 PM, wrote:
>
> > Tonight's dinnerm 1" THK pork chops... delicious!
> >
> > https://postimg.cc/gallery/1gttbata2/
> >
> I would eat the chop but you may keep the beans. (I prefer beans in soup).
>
> Jill
>
Me, too.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 12:21:32 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
>>sits in the corner with the wall to the left. I was told there is a $20
>>charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.
>>
>>When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
>>told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
>>the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
>>them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
>>Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen.
>
> That should not have been an issue. Fridges are made to be change and
> it takes minutes. I'm surprised they even tried to charge you for it.
>
>
>>
>>I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
>> freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
>>out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>>
>>
> We've had two top freezer, one side by side, and now on the second
> French door with bottom freezer. I'd never go back.
>
> The top freezer just takes prime viewing space from the portion you
> use the most, one or two shelves in the fridge.
>
> Side by side was OK on the fridge side, but the freezer was narrow and
> awkward for a lot of things. IMO< you made the right call for bottom
> freezer. It is only opened about 1/20th the time you go into the
> fridge so that should be the easiest to access.

I'm on my second side by side and hate it. The fridge side is bad but the
freezer is even worse. Too much space between the shelves and the space is
too narrow. Can't fit a frozen pizza in there unless it's small and forget
about flash freezing anything.

The fridge shelves don't go all the way to the back so flat things tend to
slip down the back and sometimes get stuck. We recently noticed a hideous
odor and I had to empty everything out to find the culprit. It was a small
package of thin pork chops that I had taken from the freezer. When I went to
cook them, I couldn't find them. I did find package in the freezer so
thought I had spaced out and put the package back in the freezer. Nope!
Apparently I had two packages. I have gotten into the habit of buying marked
down meats for the freezer.

The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the design of
my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I could get a
very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave a lot
of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.

I wish when they design kitchens, they could leave a space at the open end
for a fridge that has no stupid cabinet above it. The cabinet above mine is
useless. Too difficult to get in it. My friend just cut her cabinet off but
that would work well here as mine is part of a larger unit and there is
another cabinet to the side of it.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 7:19:53 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> The new fridge arrived yesterday. To my wife's delight, this one has
> the bottom mount freezer. I ordered it on Monday and was told it would
> likely be 2-3 weeks before delivery, depending on the manufacturer's
> warehouse stock. I was surprised to get a call on Thursday saying it was
> scheduled for delivery on Saturday.
>
> I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
> sits in the corner with the wall to the left. I was told there is a $20
> charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.
>
> When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
> told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
> the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
> them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
> Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen. I
> told them I was still on hold. The guy said he could mount it on the
> other side for me but that I would have to move the handle. Then the
> third guy said he would do the handle. The job that I was being charged
> for was about 2 minutes more work than just remounted it to the factory
> spec. They had a socket on a drill. The hinge bracket was already off.
> All he had to do was to pop out three plugs, turn the bracket upside
> down, screw the bolts in on the other side and then plug the holes from
> the original spot. The handle came off with an Allen key and two bolts.
> Meanwhile, my wife dug out the bill and it turned out the reason it had
> not been reversed at the warehouse was that the saleswoman had forgotten
> to put it on the bill and I had nor paid for it after all, so I ended up
> getting that little extra for free.
>
>
> I had to let it sit level for an hour before we started it up. Glad to
> say it came on with no problem. When we loaded the food into it I stuck
> in some freshly filled ice cube trays. They were frozen solid within two
> hours.
>
> I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
> freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
> out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.

Congrats on your new fridge. Hopefully, it will prove to be relatively
trouble free.

My wife and I were working on our fridge yesterday. The nylon bushing on the
hinge pin on one side had crapped out causing a bunch of problems: the
center door seal wouldn't engage, the ice maker to ice dispenser seal
wouldn't seal, the freezer gasket wouldn't wouldn't seal because rust from
the hinge pin grinding itself to death would clump on the magnetic gasket.
This machine has been just a bunch of trouble for us. It's one unlucky
machine!

---

I've never had one with an ice maker. As a kid, my friend had one. It made
somewhat largish half circles that tended to melt slightly and stick
together. One day we went to her house after school. When she opened the
freezer door, all these cubes tumbled out. It was chock full and still
producing. My friend was a math whiz but apparently not too bright in other
departments. She climbed up to the top shelf of the cupboard and got down
her dad's favorite bar type glasses. I remember my dad having some that we
weren't allowed to touch. All dads seemed to in those days.

She tried filling the glasses repeatedly then dumping them down the sink. Of
course this was taking forever. I knew nothing about ice makers but assumed
that it could be shut off and mentioned it. She said it could but she needed
to get the cubes out first. I told her to get a bucket. She said she
couldn't because it was in the other room. So I said to use the dishpan. She
said she couldn't because it had some dishes in it. I then told her to use a
mixing bowl or something but she was hell bent on using those glasses. I
didn't know where stuff was kept in the kitchen but I did find a big bowl.
And just as I was taking it out of the cupboard, her dad came home from
work. He saw her with the glasses, ice all over the floor.Yelled at her for
touching the glasses. This startled her and she dropped them. They broke,
adding to the mess.

Meanwhile, her dad grabbed the bowl from me and managed to get enough ice
out fairly quickly using the bowl, then shut off the ice maker.

I think I was 7 or 8 at the time. Put me right off of that type of ice
maker.

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the design of
> my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I could get a
> very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave a lot
> of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.
>
If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20, 22
inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 8:29:28 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>
>> On 2/10/2019 8:28 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > Tonight's dinnerm 1" THK pork chops... delicious!
>> >
>> > https://postimg.cc/gallery/1gttbata2/
>> >
>> I would eat the chop but you may keep the beans. (I prefer beans in
>> soup).
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Me, too.

I'd skip the chop and eat the beans.

On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 12:04:37 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the design of
> > my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I could get a
> > very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave a lot
> > of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.
> >
> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20, 22
> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.

There might not be enough room to open the door on a standard fridge. I
had a layout like that. I ended up getting a new French-door fridge that
I put in the dining room and adding a base cabinet where the old fridge was.
It was better to have some set-down space next to the stove anyway.

Cindy Hamilton

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 8:29:28 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/10/2019 8:28 PM, wrote:
> >>
> >> > Tonight's dinnerm 1" THK pork chops... delicious!
> >> >
> >> > https://postimg.cc/gallery/1gttbata2/
> >> >
> >> I would eat the chop but you may keep the beans. (I prefer beans in
> >> soup).
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> > Me, too.
>
> I'd skip the chop and eat the beans.

Well heck! You two divorced old biddies (and about the same age)
should become roommates then argue over the current gardener. ;o

On 2019-02-11 6:05 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 12:04:37 AM UTC-5, wrote:

>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20, 22
>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>
> There might not be enough room to open the door on a standard fridge. I
> had a layout like that. I ended up getting a new French-door fridge that
> I put in the dining room and adding a base cabinet where the old fridge was.
> It was better to have some set-down space next to the stove anyway.

French doors work well if the fridge is easily accessed from either
side, but not when it is against a wall on one side and a table nearby.
However, it has to be a French door fridge with bottom mount freezer.
Years ago we had a French doors with fridge on one side and freezer on
the other. We hated it. Between the narrow width and shelving
configuration it was hard to fit large things into either side and there
was a lot of wasted space.

On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:07:15 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-02-11 6:05 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 12:04:37 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> >> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20, 22
> >> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
> >
> > There might not be enough room to open the door on a standard fridge. I
> > had a layout like that. I ended up getting a new French-door fridge that
> > I put in the dining room and adding a base cabinet where the old fridge was.
> > It was better to have some set-down space next to the stove anyway.
>
> French doors work well if the fridge is easily accessed from either
> side, but not when it is against a wall on one side and a table nearby.
> However, it has to be a French door fridge with bottom mount freezer.
> Years ago we had a French doors with fridge on one side and freezer on
> the other. We hated it. Between the narrow width and shelving
> configuration it was hard to fit large things into either side and there
> was a lot of wasted space.

I've never heard anybody refer to that as "French doors"; only as
"side-by-side". "French doors" appears nowadays to be used
exclusively for a double-door fridge with a slide-out freezer
on the bottom.

Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
> freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
> out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.

Not only that but with a bottom drawer freezer, you can keep it
open longer because the cold air doesn't immediately fall out on
the floor.

On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:39:25 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
> > freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
> > out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>
> Not only that but with a bottom drawer freezer, you can keep it
> open longer because the cold air doesn't immediately fall out on
> the floor.

Not as much as you'd think. The bottom of my bottom-drawer
freezer isn't solid. You pull out the cold air in a big
whoosh and it disperses around the room.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 10:39:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
>> freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
>> out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>
>Not only that but with a bottom drawer freezer, you can keep it
>open longer because the cold air doesn't immediately fall out on
>the floor.

My last fridge had the freezer on the bottom, but it wasn't a drawer,
it was a regular door. You opened it, then you had to pull out a wire
basket. (I hadn't bought it myself - it came to me when my father
downsized.) Anyway, I hated that freezer door, and when the fridge
died I got a basic model with freezer on top.

Next one will be after we move this summer, and will be a fancy
dual-door fridge with water dispenser and freezer drawer on the
bottom. That's what they're putting in all the new condos nowadays.

Doris

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 08:07:15 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:39:25 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>> >
>> > I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
>> > freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
>> > out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>>
>> Not only that but with a bottom drawer freezer, you can keep it
>> open longer because the cold air doesn't immediately fall out on
>> the floor.
>
>Not as much as you'd think. The bottom of my bottom-drawer
>freezer isn't solid. You pull out the cold air in a big
>whoosh and it disperses around the room.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

That's true of all the bottom freezer units I've seen, the front is
solid but the sides are just wire like a basket. With a top freezer
one doesn't need to stoop very often for the fridge, how often does
one need to rumage in those bottom produce bins, perhaps 2-4 times a
day, some days not at all. Every other area is easily accessed... and
since I keep everything well arranged I don't need to have the door
open more than ten seconds.

On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:05:47 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 12:04:37 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the design of
> > > my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I could get a
> > > very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave a lot
> > > of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.
> > >
> > If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20, 22
> > inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>
> There might not be enough room to open the door on a standard fridge. I
> had a layout like that. I ended up getting a new French-door fridge that
> I put in the dining room and adding a base cabinet where the old fridge was.
> It was better to have some set-down space next to the stove anyway.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
The dummy needs to measure her present refrigerator (H-D-W) and either look
online to see what's available or write those measurements down and take
them with her when she shops for one.

My present 25 c.f. Whirpool is not a counter-depth size but that's what I will
have to opt for when this one dies.

On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 9:07:15 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Years ago we had a French doors with fridge on one side and freezer on
> the other. We hated it. Between the narrow width and shelving
> configuration it was hard to fit large things into either side and there
> was a lot of wasted space.
>
A friend had a side-by-side refrigerator/freezer and thought he'd died and gone
to heaven. But, like you said, it was hard to fit anything in either side
because it was so narrow and everything had to be stacked. Then when you wanted
something all that stuff had to come out. GRRRRRRRRRRR But I'm glad I had the
time to get to use his to find out that would not be on my list of refrigerators
to ever purchase. But if I had the space and the money I'd definitely consider
a Sub-Zero or like type that the refrigerator and freezer are of equal size.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the design
>> of
>> my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I could
>> get a
>> very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave a
>> lot
>> of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.
>>
> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20,
> 22
> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.

No. They are too tall.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 8:29:28 PM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 2/10/2019 8:28 PM, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Tonight's dinnerm 1" THK pork chops... delicious!
>> >> >
>> >> > https://postimg.cc/gallery/1gttbata2/
>> >> >
>> >> I would eat the chop but you may keep the beans. (I prefer beans in
>> >> soup).
>> >>
>> >> Jill
>> >>
>> > Me, too.
>>
>> I'd skip the chop and eat the beans.
>
> Well heck! You two divorced old biddies (and about the same age)
> should become roommates then argue over the current gardener. ;o

Oh please no!

On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message

>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>> 20, 22
>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>
> No. They are too tall.

Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have
to reject every suggestion.

On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:01:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20,
> > 22
> > inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>
> No. They are too tall.
>
You are an idiot; an absolute dumbest of the dumb. No wonder your husband
dumped your stupid ass.

On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 6:55:18 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 7:19:53 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > The new fridge arrived yesterday. To my wife's delight, this one has
> > the bottom mount freezer. I ordered it on Monday and was told it would
> > likely be 2-3 weeks before delivery, depending on the manufacturer's
> > warehouse stock. I was surprised to get a call on Thursday saying it was
> > scheduled for delivery on Saturday.
> >
> > I had asked about changing the door to open from the right because it
> > sits in the corner with the wall to the left. I was told there is a $20
> > charge for that. I thought it was a little much but agreed.
> >
> > When the fridge came I checked about the door and was by the lead guy
> > told it was the standard open to the right and I would have to contact
> > the service department. I called up and was on hold waiting to talk to
> > them about having paid for the left mount and it not being done.
> > Meanwhile, the guys had removed the door to get it into the kitchen. I
> > told them I was still on hold. The guy said he could mount it on the
> > other side for me but that I would have to move the handle. Then the
> > third guy said he would do the handle. The job that I was being charged
> > for was about 2 minutes more work than just remounted it to the factory
> > spec. They had a socket on a drill. The hinge bracket was already off.
> > All he had to do was to pop out three plugs, turn the bracket upside
> > down, screw the bolts in on the other side and then plug the holes from
> > the original spot. The handle came off with an Allen key and two bolts.
> > Meanwhile, my wife dug out the bill and it turned out the reason it had
> > not been reversed at the warehouse was that the saleswoman had forgotten
> > to put it on the bill and I had nor paid for it after all, so I ended up
> > getting that little extra for free.
> >
> >
> > I had to let it sit level for an hour before we started it up. Glad to
> > say it came on with no problem. When we loaded the food into it I stuck
> > in some freshly filled ice cube trays. They were frozen solid within two
> > hours.
> >
> > I have to agree with my wife about the convenience of the bottom mounted
> > freezer. It may be a bit of an issue to have to crouch to get stuff
> > out of the freezer, but everything in the fridge is much more accessible.
>
> Congrats on your new fridge. Hopefully, it will prove to be relatively
> trouble free.
>
> My wife and I were working on our fridge yesterday. The nylon bushing on the
> hinge pin on one side had crapped out causing a bunch of problems: the
> center door seal wouldn't engage, the ice maker to ice dispenser seal
> wouldn't seal, the freezer gasket wouldn't wouldn't seal because rust from
> the hinge pin grinding itself to death would clump on the magnetic gasket.
> This machine has been just a bunch of trouble for us. It's one unlucky
> machine!
>
> ---
>
> I've never had one with an ice maker. As a kid, my friend had one. It made
> somewhat largish half circles that tended to melt slightly and stick
> together. One day we went to her house after school. When she opened the
> freezer door, all these cubes tumbled out. It was chock full and still
> producing. My friend was a math whiz but apparently not too bright in other
> departments. She climbed up to the top shelf of the cupboard and got down
> her dad's favorite bar type glasses. I remember my dad having some that we
> weren't allowed to touch. All dads seemed to in those days.
>
> She tried filling the glasses repeatedly then dumping them down the sink. Of
> course this was taking forever. I knew nothing about ice makers but assumed
> that it could be shut off and mentioned it. She said it could but she needed
> to get the cubes out first. I told her to get a bucket. She said she
> couldn't because it was in the other room. So I said to use the dishpan. She
> said she couldn't because it had some dishes in it. I then told her to use a
> mixing bowl or something but she was hell bent on using those glasses. I
> didn't know where stuff was kept in the kitchen but I did find a big bowl.
> And just as I was taking it out of the cupboard, her dad came home from
> work. He saw her with the glasses, ice all over the floor.Yelled at her for
> touching the glasses. This startled her and she dropped them. They broke,
> adding to the mess.
>
> Meanwhile, her dad grabbed the bowl from me and managed to get enough ice
> out fairly quickly using the bowl, then shut off the ice maker.
>
> I think I was 7 or 8 at the time. Put me right off of that type of ice
> maker.

Broken food dispensers can be a lot of fun! I can tell you had one heck of a childhood!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYiIDQKdCGs

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 12:16:21 -0500, Doris Night
> wrote:

> My last fridge had the freezer on the bottom, but it wasn't a drawer,
> it was a regular door. You opened it, then you had to pull out a wire
> basket. (I hadn't bought it myself - it came to me when my father
> downsized.) Anyway, I hated that freezer door, and when the fridge
> died I got a basic model with freezer on top.

We dithered and dithered: freezer on top or freezer on bottom?
Convincing arguments both ways. Then the dime dropped: I no longer
have to go down a flight of stairs to get to the deep freeze. We
don't need a freezer compartment at all!

Not easy to find, but Smith ordered one for us. Usually found in
restaurants, I think. I adore it. Removing that tiny compartment
appears to have given us a cubic mile of SPACE.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

On 2/11/2019 6:01 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 10:41:47 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> The only reason I got the second side by side is that due to the
>>> design of
>>> my kitchen, nothing else will fit. Well that's not quite true. I
>>> could get a
>>> very small as in apartment sized top freezer model but it would leave
>>> a lot
>>> of space on either side and would be too small for my needs.
>>>
>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>> 20, 22
>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>
> No. They are too tall.
When we got a new fridge in the last house I had to cut down the cabinet
about 2" for it to fit. You could not tell it no longer had a bottom.

On 2019-02-11 8:11 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> When we got a new fridge in the last house I had to cut down the cabinet
> about 2" for it to fit.Â* You could not tell it no longer had a bottom.


I had a similar problem with our previous fridge. It turned out to be
about 1/16 inch too high for the space. Fortunately there was a bit of a
lip on the cupboard above it and I was able to shave it down and get the
fridge in under it. There was enough space on each side for ventilation.
A few years ago we remodeled the kitchen shortened the cupboard a bit
and there is now about a 2" gap. This time I made sure to measure
before ordering the fridge.

On 2019-02-11 6:27 p.m., wrote:
> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:01:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20,
>>> 22
>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>>
>> No. They are too tall.
>>
> You are an idiot; an absolute dumbest of the dumb. No wonder your husband
> dumped your stupid ass.
>
Having bought three appliances in the last 6 weeks I have spend a fair
amount of time looking at the different makes and models. There is an
amazing variety of configurations and sizes. There are tall ones short
ones, wide ones, skinny ones and every combination there of.

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:27:59 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:01:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18, 20,
>> > 22
>> > inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest occupies.
>>
>> No. They are too tall.
>>
>You are an idiot; an absolute dumbest of the dumb. No wonder your husband
>dumped your stupid ass.

Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.

On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 15:27:59 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >You are an idiot; an absolute dumbest of the dumb. No wonder your husband
> >dumped your stupid ass.
>
> Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.
>
I killed him, chopped him up, cooked him, and then fed him to the hogs. Anymore
questions? I also cleaned out his bank account, sold his prized pickup truck,
and got a nice settlement from his life insurance policy.

In article >,
"> wrote:

> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:

> > Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.

> I killed him, chopped him up, cooked him, and then fed him to the hogs.
> Anymore
> questions? I also cleaned out his bank account, sold his prized pickup truck,
> and got a nice settlement from his life insurance policy.

Yawn. It's the repetitive old story that starts with, "A married guy
gets a life insurance policy..." The end result is inevitable. How
does Bruce not know this? ;-)

leo

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:08:46 -0800, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >,
"> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 10:10:42 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
>> > Hey Jo-Jo, tell us about YOUR husband.
>
>> I killed him, chopped him up, cooked him, and then fed him to the hogs.
>> Anymore
>> questions? I also cleaned out his bank account, sold his prized pickup truck,
>> and got a nice settlement from his life insurance policy.
>
>Yawn. It's the repetitive old story that starts with, "A married guy
>gets a life insurance policy..." The end result is inevitable. How
>does Bruce not know this? ;-)

The hogs would have eaten him uncooked as well, so she made it up.

On 2/11/2019 10:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-02-11 8:11 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> When we got a new fridge in the last house I had to cut down the
>> cabinet about 2" for it to fit.Â* You could not tell it no longer had a
>> bottom.
>
>
> I had a similar problem with our previous fridge. It turned out to be
> about 1/16 inch too high for the space. Fortunately there was a bit of a
> lip on the cupboard above it and I was able to shave it down and get the
> fridge in under it. There was enough space on each side for ventilation.
> Â*A few years ago we remodeled the kitchen shortened the cupboard a bit
> and there is now about a 2" gap.Â* This time I made sure to measure
> before ordering the fridge.

When we had the kitchen remodeled, we kept the old refrigerator for
some time as it still worked fine. However, it was on the small side
so it fit into the space no problem.

When it came time to replace it, we got one as big as would fit, the
way it was meant to be. On delivery day, Ron was measuring, he knew
something was off. Well, the countertop on one side stuck out. Seems
so obvious. Of course the truck is pulling in the driveway.

I quick grabbed a screwdriver and took that counter off, so all's well
that ends well, good thing I didn't have stone countertops. A local
cabinet maker cut an inch off the countertop so it worked out.

I am not sure that thing is screwed down or just sitting there, now
that I think about it.

nancy

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-02-11 6:01 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>
>>> If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>>> 20, 22
>>> inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>>> occupies.
>>
>> No. They are too tall.
>
> Really? You know.. they come in different sizes. Oh yeah... we have to
> reject every suggestion.

Yes I know. As I said... I could fit an apartment sized one. No bigger. Not
big enough. I know how to measure.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, February 11, 2019 at 5:01:50 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > If you've got room for a side-by-side refrigerator then a standard 18,
>> > 20,
>> > 22
>> > inch refrigerator will fit in the area your present chill chest
>> > occupies.
>>
>> No. They are too tall.
>>
> You are an idiot; an absolute dumbest of the dumb. No wonder your husband
> dumped your stupid ass.

Gee, let me check the heights of those. Slightly over 66 inches for the 18
cu. Ft. and that isn't large enough. The 22 which is what I need, is not
available at Lowes. There is a slightly smaller one. Same height. Mine is a
GE that is no longer being made. It's 64 inches tall. I do know how to
measure.