Our weatherman has given up trying to tell us what is going on. We
have Frog (frozen fog) and mixed precip. I'm not going out to shop
today, I'm raiding the deep freeze. Soup for lunch from frozen stock
-- clean out the veggies in the fridge. Usual suspects, onion celery,
carrots, potato, cabbage, green beans, maybe some bell pepper and a
couple of mushrooms. Bay leaf and thyme of course. Dinner. I'm
thawing a couple of thin cut pork chops for sandwiches on Kaiser rolls
that I am thawing. Probably Apple Crisp to round out dinner.
How about you? The way I see it everyone here is scheduled for
unpleasant weather.
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> Our weatherman has given up trying to tell us what is going on. We
> have Frog (frozen fog) and mixed precip. I'm not going out to shop
> today, I'm raiding the deep freeze. Soup for lunch from frozen stock
> -- clean out the veggies in the fridge. Usual suspects, onion celery,
> carrots, potato, cabbage, green beans, maybe some bell pepper and a
> couple of mushrooms. Bay leaf and thyme of course. Dinner. I'm
> thawing a couple of thin cut pork chops for sandwiches on Kaiser rolls
> that I am thawing. Probably Apple Crisp to round out dinner.
> How about you? The way I see it everyone here is scheduled for
> unpleasant weather.

Yeah....another week of rain each day here after
tomorrow morning. splat.

One other old question you asked about "vegetable stock".
I have made it just to use up things but I'll always toss
in just one chicken thigh. That flavors the veg broth
just enough to use for about anything.

Your choice of vegetables will dictate the final taste.
My last batch of that wasn't "all that" but I still used
it up. At least I knew I was eating all healthy ingredients

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:46:32 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> Our weatherman has given up trying to tell us what is going on. We
>> have Frog (frozen fog) and mixed precip. I'm not going out to shop
>> today, I'm raiding the deep freeze. Soup for lunch from frozen stock
>> -- clean out the veggies in the fridge. Usual suspects, onion celery,
>> carrots, potato, cabbage, green beans, maybe some bell pepper and a
>> couple of mushrooms. Bay leaf and thyme of course. Dinner. I'm
>> thawing a couple of thin cut pork chops for sandwiches on Kaiser rolls
>> that I am thawing. Probably Apple Crisp to round out dinner.
>> How about you? The way I see it everyone here is scheduled for
>> unpleasant weather.
>
>Yeah....another week of rain each day here after
>tomorrow morning. splat.
>
>One other old question you asked about "vegetable stock".
>I have made it just to use up things but I'll always toss
>in just one chicken thigh. That flavors the veg broth
>just enough to use for about anything.
>
>Your choice of vegetables will dictate the final taste.
>My last batch of that wasn't "all that" but I still used
>it up. At least I knew I was eating all healthy ingredients

as long as we use up what we buy, it's all good, right?

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> as long as we use up what we buy, it's all good, right?

Or at least try to. I went to make a tomato sandwich last night
but tomatoes were too far gone. Not bad but very soft. I put both
in a sandwich ziplock bag then onto a freezer shelf for my next
broth session.

On 2019-02-27 11:35 a.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> Our weatherman has given up trying to tell us what is going on. We
> have Frog (frozen fog) and mixed precip. I'm not going out to shop
> today, I'm raiding the deep freeze. Soup for lunch from frozen stock
> -- clean out the veggies in the fridge. Usual suspects, onion celery,
> carrots, potato, cabbage, green beans, maybe some bell pepper and a
> couple of mushrooms. Bay leaf and thyme of course. Dinner. I'm
> thawing a couple of thin cut pork chops for sandwiches on Kaiser rolls
> that I am thawing. Probably Apple Crisp to round out dinner.
> How about you? The way I see it everyone here is scheduled for
> unpleasant weather.


We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound like
a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which means that
it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and become very
slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even though I had
started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost slid past it.

We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I will
probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there are some
nice green beans.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 11:35:13 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> Our weatherman has given up trying to tell us what is going on. We
> have Frog (frozen fog) and mixed precip. I'm not going out to shop
> today, I'm raiding the deep freeze. Soup for lunch from frozen stock
> -- clean out the veggies in the fridge. Usual suspects, onion celery,
> carrots, potato, cabbage, green beans, maybe some bell pepper and a
> couple of mushrooms. Bay leaf and thyme of course. Dinner. I'm
> thawing a couple of thin cut pork chops for sandwiches on Kaiser rolls
> that I am thawing. Probably Apple Crisp to round out dinner.
> How about you? The way I see it everyone here is scheduled for
> unpleasant weather.
> Janet US

Actually, it's relatively nice here. We got snow last night, but
today will be a high of 30 F, decreasing cloud cover, and light
winds. About what I'd expect for late February.

Tonight will be chicken piccata, either salad or green beans, and
rice.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>
> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound like
> a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which means that
> it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and become very
> slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even though I had
> started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost slid past it.
>
> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I will
> probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there are some
> nice green beans.
>

At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.

Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to the
store. Just simmering for a while now.

On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:57:51 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> as long as we use up what we buy, it's all good, right?
>
>Or at least try to. I went to make a tomato sandwich last night
>but tomatoes were too far gone. Not bad but very soft. I put both
>in a sandwich ziplock bag then onto a freezer shelf for my next
>broth session.

Broth from tomatoes that are too far gone to eat. Gary's living the
high life.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 at 2:10:28 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 11:57:51 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >>
> >> as long as we use up what we buy, it's all good, right?
> >
> >Or at least try to. I went to make a tomato sandwich last night
> >but tomatoes were too far gone. Not bad but very soft. I put both
> >in a sandwich ziplock bag then onto a freezer shelf for my next
> >broth session.
>
> Broth from tomatoes that are too far gone to eat. Gary's living the
> high life.

They're probably safe and tasty, just a little wrinkled. When I have
tomatoes that have gotten like that, I roast them.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound
>> like a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which
>> means that it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and
>> become very slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even
>> though I had started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost
>> slid past it.
>>
>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I
>> will probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there
>> are some nice green beans.
>>
>
> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>
> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight.Â* Got
> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to the
> store.Â* Just simmering for a while now.

Â*I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock day
.. As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I hadÂ* my last
tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom denture in
.. Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...

On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound like
>> a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which means that
>> it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and become very
>> slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even though I had
>> started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost slid past it.
>>
>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I will
>> probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there are some
>> nice green beans.
>>
>
> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>
> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to the
> store. Just simmering for a while now.

I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock day
.. As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I had my last
tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom denture in
.. Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .


Snag

====

Better than nothing )

On 2/27/2019 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound
>>> like a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which
>>> means that it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and
>>> become very slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even
>>> though I had started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost
>>> slid past it.
>>>
>>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I
>>> will probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there
>>> are some nice green beans.
>>>
>>
>> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>>
>> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
>> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to the
>> store.Â* Just simmering for a while now.
>
> Â*I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
> road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
> I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock day
> . As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I had my last
> tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
> rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
> fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom denture in
> . Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
> and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .
>
>
> Â*Snag
>
> ====
>
> Better than nothing )
>
>
Â* Yes , and one of the upsides to it is that I may still be in pain ...
but I won't care .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
>
> Our weatherman has given up trying to tell us what is going on. We
> have Frog (frozen fog) and mixed precip. I'm not going out to shop
> today, I'm raiding the deep freeze. Soup for lunch from frozen stock
> -- clean out the veggies in the fridge. Usual suspects, onion celery,
> carrots, potato, cabbage, green beans, maybe some bell pepper and a
> couple of mushrooms. Bay leaf and thyme of course. Dinner. I'm
> thawing a couple of thin cut pork chops for sandwiches on Kaiser rolls
> that I am thawing. Probably Apple Crisp to round out dinner.
> How about you? The way I see it everyone here is scheduled for
> unpleasant weather.
> Janet US

I went to Winco, the the Business Costco. Started to snow as I was leaving.
Just a few flakes but we are to get more. Last stop Walmert Food Center.
Didn't get much. Was just looking for bargains.

Am worn out and not cooking except for some brown rice. Am just now eating
my breakfast. A prepared Mexican meal from Winco. Gardener is getting the
rice, Winco Orange Chicken and a Winco salad for dinner. Bought a freshly
baked loaf of French bread from Walmart and Honey Butter from Winco. He can
have that for a snack later. I won't be eating much dinner. Got a ton of
groceries to put away.

Tomorrow? Pot roast, potatoes, carrots, green beans. Also got a package of
cubed butternut squash on clearance. Will roast that and put in the fridge
for whoever wants it.

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...

On 2/27/2019 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...
>
> On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound like
>>> a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which means that
>>> it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and become very
>>> slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even though I had
>>> started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost slid past it.
>>>
>>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I will
>>> probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there are some
>>> nice green beans.
>>>
>>
>> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>>
>> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
>> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to the
>> store. Just simmering for a while now.
>
> I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
> road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
> I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock day
> . As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I had my last
> tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
> rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
> fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom denture in
> . Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
> and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .
>
>
> Snag
>
> ====
>
> Better than nothing )
>
>
Yes , and one of the upsides to it is that I may still be in pain ...
but I won't care .


Snag

==

I think you just might. Don't you have any painkillers??

On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 2/27/2019 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound
>>>> like a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which
>>>> means that it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and
>>>> become very slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even
>>>> though I had started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost
>>>> slid past it.
>>>>
>>>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I
>>>> will probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there
>>>> are some nice green beans.
>>>>
>>>
>>> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>>>
>>> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
>>> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to
>>> the store.Â* Just simmering for a while now.
>>
>> Â*I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
>> road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
>> I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock day
>> . As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I had my last
>> tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
>> rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
>> fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom denture in
>> . Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
>> and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .
>>
>>
>> Â*Snag
>>
>> ====
>>
>> Better than nothing )
>>
>>
> Â* Yes , and one of the upsides to it is that I may still be in pain ...
> but I won't care .
>
>
> Â*Snag
>
> ==
>
> I think you just might.Â* Don't you have any painkillers??
>
>
Â* The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
.... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
.. The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
ever want a repeat .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:32:34 -0600, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
snip
>>
>> I think you just might.* Don't you have any painkillers??
>>
>>
> * The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
>... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
>all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
>hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
>. The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
>stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
>ever want a repeat .

This winter my husband had a back injury confirmed by X-rays. He was
in incredible pain. I even took him to the emergency room once he was
able to stand. All the offerings were Tylenol only. That's just
plain cruel.
When I had my right shoulder surgery in 2010 I got prescriptions for
oxycotin by the handful. There must be a decent compromise on the
prescriptions.
Janet US

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...

On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...
>
> On 2/27/2019 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound
>>>> like a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which
>>>> means that it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and
>>>> become very slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even
>>>> though I had started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost slid
>>>> past it.
>>>>
>>>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I will
>>>> probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there are some
>>>> nice green beans.
>>>>
>>>
>>> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>>>
>>> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
>>> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to the
>>> store. Just simmering for a while now.
>>
>> I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
>> road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
>> I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock day
>> . As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I had my last
>> tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
>> rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
>> fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom denture in
>> . Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
>> and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .
>>
>>
>> Snag
>>
>> ====
>>
>> Better than nothing )
>>
>>
> Yes , and one of the upsides to it is that I may still be in pain ...
> but I won't care .
>
>
> Snag
>
> ==
>
> I think you just might. Don't you have any painkillers??
>
>
The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
.... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
.. The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
ever want a repeat .

Snag

Yes, I have been hearing about that. I am very pleased there is
not quite so much trouble here about them. I have to take opioids because I
have no choice. I am very careful though. I make sure I can't have so many
that I become addicted.

That shouldn't stop you having decent pain relief though

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:00:13 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:32:34 -0600, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
> >On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> snip
> >>
> >> I think you just might.Â* Don't you have any painkillers??
> >>
> >>
> > Â* The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
> >... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
> >all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
> >hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
> >. The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
> >stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
> >ever want a repeat .
>
> This winter my husband had a back injury confirmed by X-rays. He was
> in incredible pain. I even took him to the emergency room once he was
> able to stand. All the offerings were Tylenol only. That's just
> plain cruel.
> When I had my right shoulder surgery in 2010 I got prescriptions for
> oxycotin by the handful. There must be a decent compromise on the
> prescriptions.
> Janet US

Jeeze. My husband is on 30 mg of hydrocodone every damned day.
You'd think your husband could get something better than Tylenol.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/28/2019 11:02 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 2/27/2019 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't sound
>>>>> like a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely fine, which
>>>>> means that it will be heavy to move and will easily pack down and
>>>>> become very slippery. I went out for a coffee a while ago and, even
>>>>> though I had started slowing well in advance of our lane I almost
>>>>> slid past it.
>>>>>
>>>>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight. I
>>>>> will probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and there
>>>>> are some nice green beans.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>>>>
>>>> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
>>>> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to
>>>> the store.Â* Just simmering for a while now.
>>>
>>> Â*I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
>>> road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
>>> I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock day
>>> . As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I had my last
>>> tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
>>> rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
>>> fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom denture in
>>> . Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
>>> and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .
>>>
>>>
>>> Â*Snag
>>>
>>> ====
>>>
>>> Better than nothing )
>>>
>>>
>> Â* Yes , and one of the upsides to it is that I may still be in pain ...
>> but I won't care .
>>
>>
>> Â*Snag
>>
>> ==
>>
>> I think you just might.Â* Don't you have any painkillers??
>>
>>
> Â* The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
> ... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
> all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
> hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
> . The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
> stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
> ever want a repeat .
>
> Â*Snag

Its not BS though. My daughter manages a dental practice. One day a
young guy comes in and ask for his prescription so he could get if
filled now in case the pharmacy is closed after his late afternoon
visit. She told him sorry, the doctor will decide what to give later
and often it is OTC medication. He became enraged and grabbed her neck
and put her into the wall. Not sure of the outcome, but he did jail time.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 08:09:47 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:00:13 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:32:34 -0600, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>
>> snip
>> >>
>> >> I think you just might.* Don't you have any painkillers??
>> >>
>> >>
>> > * The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
>> >... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
>> >all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
>> >hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
>> >. The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
>> >stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
>> >ever want a repeat .
>>
>> This winter my husband had a back injury confirmed by X-rays. He was
>> in incredible pain. I even took him to the emergency room once he was
>> able to stand. All the offerings were Tylenol only. That's just
>> plain cruel.
>> When I had my right shoulder surgery in 2010 I got prescriptions for
>> oxycotin by the handful. There must be a decent compromise on the
>> prescriptions.
>> Janet US
>
>Jeeze. My husband is on 30 mg of hydrocodone every damned day.
>You'd think your husband could get something better than Tylenol.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

you'd think so but I have heard complaints from others in my city that
it is virtually impossible to get anything for serious pain, and I've
heard the same from my daughter in TN.

On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 08:09:47 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:00:13 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:32:34 -0600, Terry Coombs >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >> >>
> >> snip
> >> >>
> >> >> I think you just might.Â* Don't you have any painkillers??
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> > Â* The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
> >> >... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
> >> >all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
> >> >hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
> >> >. The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
> >> >stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
> >> >ever want a repeat .
> >>
> >> This winter my husband had a back injury confirmed by X-rays. He was
> >> in incredible pain. I even took him to the emergency room once he was
> >> able to stand. All the offerings were Tylenol only. That's just
> >> plain cruel.
> >> When I had my right shoulder surgery in 2010 I got prescriptions for
> >> oxycotin by the handful. There must be a decent compromise on the
> >> prescriptions.
> >> Janet US
> >
> >Jeeze. My husband is on 30 mg of hydrocodone every damned day.
> >You'd think your husband could get something better than Tylenol.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> you'd think so but I have heard complaints from others in my city that
> it is virtually impossible to get anything for serious pain, and I've
> heard the same from my daughter in TN.

My husband has to go through this ritual once a month where he
has a short visit with his doctor. He signs a form that says
he swears he's not taking any opioids besides those the doctor
prescribes, he's taking all of them on schedule, and he's not
diverting any. It's well worth it to get the kind of pain
management he needs.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2/28/2019 10:39 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/28/2019 11:02 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>>
>> On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> On 2/27/2019 3:10 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
>>>>
>>>> On 2/27/2019 12:48 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 2/27/2019 12:00 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are supposed to get 15 cm (6 in) of snow today. It doesn't
>>>>>> sound like a lot, but the stuff that is falling is extremely
>>>>>> fine, which means that it will be heavy to move and will easily
>>>>>> pack down and become very slippery. I went out for a coffee a
>>>>>> while ago and, even though I had started slowing well in advance
>>>>>> of our lane I almost slid past it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We took some chicken legs out of the freezer for supper tonight.
>>>>>> I will probably throw a potato in to bake with the chicken, and
>>>>>> there are some nice green beans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At 79 degrees, I did not slide coming back from the store.
>>>>>
>>>>> Took four thighs out of the freezer so, chicken soup tonight. Got
>>>>> everything cooking and realized we had no thyme, thus the trip to
>>>>> the store.Â* Just simmering for a while now.
>>>>
>>>> Â*I hate it when I run out of thyme ...it's like 65° here today and the
>>>> road is finally dried out enough to ride the Harley out of here . But
>>>> I'm too damn busy working on the house - today is another sheetrock
>>>> day
>>>> . As far as food for today , I'll find something soft ... I had my
>>>> last
>>>> tooth pulled on Monday and new dentures "installed" . I've got holes
>>>> rubbed in my gums from the first night , before they started "final
>>>> fitting" them and my mouth is so sore I can't put the bottom
>>>> denture in
>>>> . Can't chew much with just the top one . But beer don't need chewin'
>>>> and it's made from grain so ... right now I'm drinking lunch .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Â*Snag
>>>>
>>>> ====
>>>>
>>>> Better than nothing )
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Â* Yes , and one of the upsides to it is that I may still be in pain ...
>>> but I won't care .
>>>
>>>
>>> Â*Snag
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>> I think you just might.Â* Don't you have any painkillers??
>>>
>>>
>> Â*Â* The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
>> ... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
>> all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
>> hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
>> . The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
>> stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
>> ever want a repeat .
>>
>> Â*Â*Snag
>
> Its not BS though.Â* My daughter manages a dental practice.Â* One day a
> young guy comes in and ask for his prescription so he could get if
> filled now in case the pharmacy is closed after his late afternoon
> visit.Â* She told him sorry, the doctor will decide what to give later
> and often it is OTC medication.Â* He became enraged and grabbed her
> neck and put her into the wall.Â* Not sure of the outcome, but he did
> jail time.

Â* Sounds like he was having withdrawals ... I also suffer from chronic
lower back pain , some days it's pretty bad and others I hardly notice .
When I get any decent pain meds I take the minimum that I can get by on
, hoard the pills for those days I can't function without something
stronger than ibuprofen .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:53:22 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 12:13:11 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 08:09:47 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, February 28, 2019 at 11:00:13 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:32:34 -0600, Terry Coombs >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 2/28/2019 6:16 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> snip
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think you just might.* Don't you have any painkillers??
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> > * The dentist declined my request for something stronger than OTC meds
>> >> >... all the media bullshit about "the opioid crisis in America" has them
>> >> >all afraid to prescribe for real issues . While a lot of folks get
>> >> >hooked initially on prescription medication , that's not the big problem
>> >> >. The problem is the illegal/illicit stuff . I'm very careful with that
>> >> >stuff , I got a little overboard many years ago while overseas and don't
>> >> >ever want a repeat .
>> >>
>> >> This winter my husband had a back injury confirmed by X-rays. He was
>> >> in incredible pain. I even took him to the emergency room once he was
>> >> able to stand. All the offerings were Tylenol only. That's just
>> >> plain cruel.
>> >> When I had my right shoulder surgery in 2010 I got prescriptions for
>> >> oxycotin by the handful. There must be a decent compromise on the
>> >> prescriptions.
>> >> Janet US
>> >
>> >Jeeze. My husband is on 30 mg of hydrocodone every damned day.
>> >You'd think your husband could get something better than Tylenol.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> you'd think so but I have heard complaints from others in my city that
>> it is virtually impossible to get anything for serious pain, and I've
>> heard the same from my daughter in TN.
>
>My husband has to go through this ritual once a month where he
>has a short visit with his doctor. He signs a form that says
>he swears he's not taking any opioids besides those the doctor
>prescribes, he's taking all of them on schedule, and he's not
>diverting any. It's well worth it to get the kind of pain
>management he needs.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

For most all levels of pain Advil works just fine, just be sure to
take them regularly or letting them out of your system between doses
then they are a fail. The only people who require opiods are those in
hospice.
No one needs opioids for dental work, just suck it up and quit being a
cry baby. I have severe back pain most every day, Crystal Palace
works a treat.

On 2019-02-28 7:12 p.m., wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 09:53:22 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton

>> My husband has to go through this ritual once a month where he
>> has a short visit with his doctor. He signs a form that says
>> he swears he's not taking any opioids besides those the doctor
>> prescribes, he's taking all of them on schedule, and he's not
>> diverting any. It's well worth it to get the kind of pain
>> management he needs.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> For most all levels of pain Advil works just fine, just be sure to
> take them regularly or letting them out of your system between doses
> then they are a fail. The only people who require opiods are those in
> hospice.
> No one needs opioids for dental work, just suck it up and quit being a
> cry baby. I have severe back pain most every day, Crystal Palace
> works a treat.
>

Fortunately, many in the medical field see pain as an obstacle for
healing. If it had not been for opioids I would not have had any sleep
at all for the two months it took to heal. I was also well informed
about the risk of the medication I was taking. I liked not being in
pain, but I can't say that I enjoyed being stoned have the time. Some
people seem to like that part.