Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
and roasts


Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
you agree. In no particular order

Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)

foldgers

any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)

Maxwell House

Nescafe

Hills brothers



Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
if I can find it in whole bean)

Starbucks

Community

Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)

Eight O'Clock

Lavazzaa


Coffee I like and/or buy regularly

Trader Joes whole bean

Gevalia Whole bean

Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)

Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
my list.

--


"There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
~Toidi Uoy

On 4/2/2019 1:41 PM, wrote:
> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
> and roasts
>
>
> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
> you agree. In no particular order
>
> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>
> foldgers
>
> any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
>
> Maxwell House
>
> Nescafe
>
> Hills brothers
>
>
>
> Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
> if I can find it in whole bean)
>
> Starbucks
>
> Community
>
> Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
>
> Eight O'Clock
>
> Lavazzaa
>
>
> Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
>
> Trader Joes whole bean
>
> Gevalia Whole bean
>
> Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
>
> Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
> my list.
>
> --
>
>
> "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
> ~Toidi Uoy

Â* I blend 2 varieties of 8 O'Clock beans and grind it fresh for every
pot . The blend is half dark italian espresso and half usually columbian
peaks but sometimes just original roast . I very seldom drink coffee out
.. Usually , as my friend Wally says , "You can taste the water thru it." .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
> and roasts
>
>
> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
> you agree. In no particular order
>
> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>
> foldgers
>
> any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
>
> Maxwell House
>
> Nescafe
>
> Hills brothers
>
>
>
> Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
> if I can find it in whole bean)
>
> Starbucks
>
> Community
>
> Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
>
> Eight O'Clock
>
> Lavazzaa
>
>
> Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
>
> Trader Joes whole bean
>
> Gevalia Whole bean
>
> Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
>
> Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
> my list.
>
> --
>
>
> "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
> ~Toidi Uoy

Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. If I had a restaurant that served breakfast, I'd have a guy whose main job was QC for the coffee. It's that important. I used to have an office next to a fast food restaurant that started serving great coffee. It was wonderful working in a place where great coffee is available anytime you want it. I drank my share of it because I knew it wasn't going to last. Eventually they went to a different supplier or the conditions of the coffee supply chain changed and they started serving plain old regular bad coffee again.

OTOH, I'm going to be drinking coffee even if it's a mediocre brew because the reality is that taste in not the primary concern of mine.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 2:14:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
> > much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
> > and roasts
> >
> >
> > Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
> > you agree. In no particular order
> >
> > Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
> > include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
> >
> > foldgers
> >
> > any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
> >
> > Maxwell House
> >
> > Nescafe
> >
> > Hills brothers
> >
> >
> >
> > Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
> > if I can find it in whole bean)
> >
> > Starbucks
> >
> > Community
> >
> > Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
> >
> > Eight O'Clock
> >
> > Lavazzaa
> >
> >
> > Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
> >
> > Trader Joes whole bean
> >
> > Gevalia Whole bean
> >
> > Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
> >
> > Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
> > my list.
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
> > ~Toidi Uoy
>
> Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. ...

That's because PEOPLE don't know HOW to brew a DECENT Cuppa!

Rules:

1. Get good coffee
2. DO NOT BOIL COFFEE!!!
3. Make GOOD COFFEE STRONG ENUF!!
4. For an EXTRA TREAT, add one good squirt of CBD Oil and one DAB Hershey's SYRUP!

And I call that my Cuppa PLUS! :-)

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and GOOD COFFEE KIND-O-SEWER!

On 4/2/2019 3:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. If I had a restaurant that served breakfast, I'd have a guy whose main job was QC for the coffee. It's that important. I used to have an office next to a fast food restaurant that started serving great coffee. It was wonderful working in a place where great coffee is available anytime you want it. I drank my share of it because I knew it wasn't going to last. Eventually they went to a different supplier or the conditions of the coffee supply chain changed and they started serving plain old regular bad coffee again.
>
> OTOH, I'm going to be drinking coffee even if it's a mediocre brew because the reality is that taste in not the primary concern of mine.
>

But you guys grow some of the best. I just got a couple of pounds of
Kona from Cea, who used to post here. www.smithfarms.com

I would think many of you would demand decent coffee, but I guess price
is more important to the restaurants.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 16:20:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/2/2019 3:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>
>> Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. If I had a restaurant that served breakfast, I'd have a guy whose main job was QC for the coffee. It's that important. I used to have an office next to a fast food restaurant that started serving great coffee. It was wonderful working in a place where great coffee is available anytime you want it. I drank my share of it because I knew it wasn't going to last. Eventually they went to a different supplier or the conditions of the coffee supply chain changed and they started serving plain old regular bad coffee again.
>>
>> OTOH, I'm going to be drinking coffee even if it's a mediocre brew because the reality is that taste in not the primary concern of mine.
>>
>
>But you guys grow some of the best. I just got a couple of pounds of
>Kona from Cea, who used to post here. www.smithfarms.com
>
>I would think many of you would demand decent coffee, but I guess price
>is more important to the restaurants.

That's also why people buy industry meat and pesticide ridden
vegetables from supermarkets. And then they go to RFC to talk about
how to cook that stuff.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 3:20:49 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/2/2019 3:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
> > Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. If I had a restaurant that served breakfast, I'd have a guy whose main job was QC for the coffee. It's that important. I used to have an office next to a fast food restaurant that started serving great coffee. It was wonderful working in a place where great coffee is available anytime you want it. I drank my share of it because I knew it wasn't going to last. Eventually they went to a different supplier or the conditions of the coffee supply chain changed and they started serving plain old regular bad coffee again.
> >
> > OTOH, I'm going to be drinking coffee even if it's a mediocre brew because the reality is that taste in not the primary concern of mine.
> >
>
> But you guys grow some of the best. I just got a couple of pounds of
> Kona from Cea, who used to post here. www.smithfarms.com
>
> I would think many of you would demand decent coffee, but I guess price
> is more important to the restaurants.

I get my coffee freshly roasted here in STL:

www.starrs1.com

I like the Sumatran, 11.99/lb, I get two lb stacks and say Stuff Em Full! It will ALL get drank!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, etc.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:04:58 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 4/2/2019 1:41 PM, wrote:
>> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>> and roasts
>>
>>
>> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
>> you agree. In no particular order
>>
>> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>>
>> foldgers
>>
>> any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
>>
>> Maxwell House
>>
>> Nescafe
>>
>> Hills brothers
>>
>>
>>
>> Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
>> if I can find it in whole bean)
>>
>> Starbucks
>>
>> Community
>>
>> Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
>>
>> Eight O'Clock
>>
>> Lavazzaa
>>
>>
>> Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
>>
>> Trader Joes whole bean
>>
>> Gevalia Whole bean
>>
>> Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
>>
>> Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
>> my list.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
>> ~Toidi Uoy
>
> * I blend 2 varieties of 8 O'Clock beans and grind it fresh for every
>pot . The blend is half dark italian espresso and half usually columbian
>peaks but sometimes just original roast . I very seldom drink coffee out
>. Usually , as my friend Wally says , "You can taste the water thru it." .

That is a very good description. That is how I say McDolands coffee
is, a dark colored water with sugar and cream.

I used to buy the big bags of 8 o'clock but I dont remember the blend.
I always got the big bag because it was the only whole bean offered.

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:39:54 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 2:14:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> > Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>> > much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>> > and roasts
>> >
>> >
>> > Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
>> > you agree. In no particular order
>> >
>> > Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>> > include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>> >
>> > foldgers
>> >
>> > any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
>> >
>> > Maxwell House
>> >
>> > Nescafe
>> >
>> > Hills brothers
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
>> > if I can find it in whole bean)
>> >
>> > Starbucks
>> >
>> > Community
>> >
>> > Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
>> >
>> > Eight O'Clock
>> >
>> > Lavazzaa
>> >
>> >
>> > Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
>> >
>> > Trader Joes whole bean
>> >
>> > Gevalia Whole bean
>> >
>> > Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
>> >
>> > Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
>> > my list.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
>> > ~Toidi Uoy
>>
>> Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. ...
>
>That's because PEOPLE don't know HOW to brew a DECENT Cuppa!
>
>Rules:
>
>1. Get good coffee

dependant on the person.. what is good the south American blends or
the African blends?
>2. DO NOT BOIL COFFEE!!!

yes coffee served too hot (such as mcdonalds) is basically just crap
and water

>3. Make GOOD COFFEE STRONG ENUF!!

Coffee does not ever need to be "strong" to be a good coffee. The
"strength of the coffee should never be too strong or too weak. It
should be right in the middle. When a coffee is too strong it becomes
bitter and just tastes bad (starbucks does this). The people who want
their coffees like that are not drinking coffee to enjoy a cup They
want their fix, and caffeine is all that is available and legal.

>4. For an EXTRA TREAT, add one good squirt of CBD Oil and one DAB Hershey's SYRUP!

Now I will agree on the chocolate, however it is not good for every
cup... maybe once or twice a week..

>
>And I call that my Cuppa PLUS! :-)
>
>John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and GOOD COFFEE KIND-O-SEWER!

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 3:55:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> I used to buy the big bags of 8 o'clock but I dont remember the blend.
> I always got the big bag because it was the only whole bean offered.
>
My local Kroger offers the regular size whole bean bags of Eight O'clock coffee.
But for the larger size, I can only find that at WallyWorld.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 4:04:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:39:54 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
....
>
> >4. For an EXTRA TREAT, add one good squirt of CBD Oil and one DAB Hershey's SYRUP!
>
> Now I will agree on the chocolate, however it is not good for every
> cup... maybe once or twice a week..
>
> >
> >And I call that my Cuppa PLUS! :-)
> >
> >John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and GOOD COFFEE KIND-O-SEWER!
>
> --
>
> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

I have 4-5 Cuppa Plus' a day!

I'm a serious coffee drinker, ever since my donut shop daze as you can imagine!!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Serious Coffee Drinker!

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 14:56:03 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 4:04:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 12:39:54 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>...
>>
>> >4. For an EXTRA TREAT, add one good squirt of CBD Oil and one DAB Hershey's SYRUP!
>>
>> Now I will agree on the chocolate, however it is not good for every
>> cup... maybe once or twice a week..
>>
>> >
>> >And I call that my Cuppa PLUS! :-)
>> >
>> >John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and GOOD COFFEE KIND-O-SEWER!
>>
>> --
>>
>> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
>
>I have 4-5 Cuppa Plus' a day!
>

I meant chocolate just every so often.... I mean for me it would ruin
the experience of having chocolate in it every time.....

Although I have experimented.. sometimes a drop of vanilla or use a
vanilla soy, I have even put mint leaves with it... that was not all
that good lol
>I'm a serious coffee drinker, ever since my donut shop daze as you can imagine!!
>
>John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Serious Coffee Drinker!

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:41:16 -0500,
wrote:

>Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>and roasts
>
>
>Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet,

Planet?

>let me know if
>you agree. In no particular order
>
>Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)

Of course. Impossible for such a business model to have decent coffee.

>any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)

Any instant coffee is by default awful.

>Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
>if I can find it in whole bean)
>
>Starbucks

Starbucks is just awful - no matter where the store may be in the
world. Bland and without character.

Last year I discovered the joys of Vietnamese coffee:
https://postimg.cc/MfHNM50g Never thought I'd like a coffee with
condensed milk, but it's just heavenly. Their coffee is of the Robusta
type (very high in caffeine, so be warned) and roasted in a particular
way. So it has a distinctive taste and much thicker than normal
coffee. I have found it almost impossible outside Vietnam to get an
authentic and properly made version of this coffee. I really miss it.

Vietnamese egg coffee is pretty awesome too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PC_bg9k9xU

On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 16:04:25 -0500,
wrote:


>Coffee does not ever need to be "strong" to be a good coffee. The
>"strength of the coffee should never be too strong or too weak. It
>should be right in the middle. When a coffee is too strong it becomes
>bitter and just tastes bad

LOL.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 10:20:49 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/2/2019 3:12 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> >
> > Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. If I had a restaurant that served breakfast, I'd have a guy whose main job was QC for the coffee. It's that important. I used to have an office next to a fast food restaurant that started serving great coffee. It was wonderful working in a place where great coffee is available anytime you want it. I drank my share of it because I knew it wasn't going to last. Eventually they went to a different supplier or the conditions of the coffee supply chain changed and they started serving plain old regular bad coffee again.
> >
> > OTOH, I'm going to be drinking coffee even if it's a mediocre brew because the reality is that taste in not the primary concern of mine.
> >
>
> But you guys grow some of the best. I just got a couple of pounds of
> Kona from Cea, who used to post here. www.smithfarms.com
>
> I would think many of you would demand decent coffee, but I guess price
> is more important to the restaurants.

Kona does make for a very smooth brew. I used to a contact to get some of that stuff from a small farm. It was just some beautiful beans - every single one was a perfect bean. I think a lot of coffee drinkers would say that 100% Kona is too smooth for them.

I like a Vietnamese brand of coffee. It's as smooth as Kona with a wonderful chocolate note. I later found out it was a processed, flavored, coffee. My guess is that it's somehow processed with oil - it's a wonderful process and Trung Nguyen is a unique coffee.

I like the Smithfarms site - it looks handmade and that's entirely appropriate for a small coffee farm like that. I can't say if they actually do everything with such personal attention but the site sure gives that impression.. I love that they call their coffee the "tastiest caffeine delivery system on the planet!"

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 9:39:57 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 2:14:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > > Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
> > > much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
> > > and roasts
> > >
> > >
> > > Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
> > > you agree. In no particular order
> > >
> > > Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
> > > include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
> > >
> > > foldgers
> > >
> > > any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
> > >
> > > Maxwell House
> > >
> > > Nescafe
> > >
> > > Hills brothers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
> > > if I can find it in whole bean)
> > >
> > > Starbucks
> > >
> > > Community
> > >
> > > Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
> > >
> > > Eight O'Clock
> > >
> > > Lavazzaa
> > >
> > >
> > > Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
> > >
> > > Trader Joes whole bean
> > >
> > > Gevalia Whole bean
> > >
> > > Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
> > >
> > > Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
> > > my list.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > >
> > > "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
> > > ~Toidi Uoy
> >
> > Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. ...
>
> That's because PEOPLE don't know HOW to brew a DECENT Cuppa!
>
> Rules:
>
> 1. Get good coffee
> 2. DO NOT BOIL COFFEE!!!
> 3. Make GOOD COFFEE STRONG ENUF!!
> 4. For an EXTRA TREAT, add one good squirt of CBD Oil and one DAB Hershey's SYRUP!
>
> And I call that my Cuppa PLUS! :-)
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and GOOD COFFEE KIND-O-SEWER!

I think the reason it's hard to get a great cup of coffee is that the beans have a very short lifespan between being roasted and when it's brewed. Most coffee is brewed outside of that window. This assumes that the beans are of good quality.

On 2019-04-02 7:02 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:41:16 -0500,
> wrote:
>
>> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>> and roasts
>>
>>
>> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet,
>
> Planet?
>
>> let me know if
>> you agree. In no particular order
>>
>> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)

I may beg to differ. As much as I disparage McD's food<?>, their coffee
really improved a lot. I have posted here about picking some up on a
road trip a couple years and how my wife and I agreed that it was
excellent. It was significant that my wife agreed heartily because we
had had to car pool for a while and since I started work so much earlier
she would stop at McDs for breakfast. She hated their coffee and would
stop at Hortons. After several warnings about bringing Hortons coffee
into McDs they kicked her out.




>> Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
>> if I can find it in whole bean)
>>
>> Starbucks
>
> Starbucks is just awful - no matter where the store may be in the
> world. Bland and without character.

I have had some decent coffee at Starbucks. It is better than most
franchised coffee shops, but not really worth the money. I get much
better coffee at the corner bakery/coffee shop. They have fair trade
coffee and have three choices each day, one being flavoured. They also
do espresso, latte, cappuccino and all those foofoo coffee drinks. Unlke
$tarbucks, they have an impressive assortment muffins, scones, cookies
and squares.



> Last year I discovered the joys of Vietnamese coffee:
> https://postimg.cc/MfHNM50g Never thought I'd like a coffee with
> condensed milk, but it's just heavenly. Their coffee is of the Robusta
> type (very high in caffeine, so be warned) and roasted in a particular
> way. So it has a distinctive taste and much thicker than normal
> coffee. I have found it almost impossible outside Vietnam to get an
> authentic and properly made version of this coffee. I really miss it.

I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
something I am not used to. The first time I had it was after dinner,
and I was awake until about 4 am.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 1:39:10 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-04-02 7:02 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> > On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:41:16 -0500,
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
> >> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
> >> and roasts
> >>
> >>
> >> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet,
> >
> > Planet?
> >
> >> let me know if
> >> you agree. In no particular order
> >>
> >> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
> >> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>
> I may beg to differ. As much as I disparage McD's food<?>, their coffee
> really improved a lot. I have posted here about picking some up on a
> road trip a couple years and how my wife and I agreed that it was
> excellent. It was significant that my wife agreed heartily because we
> had had to car pool for a while and since I started work so much earlier
> she would stop at McDs for breakfast. She hated their coffee and would
> stop at Hortons. After several warnings about bringing Hortons coffee
> into McDs they kicked her out.
>
>
>
>
> >> Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
> >> if I can find it in whole bean)
> >>
> >> Starbucks
> >
> > Starbucks is just awful - no matter where the store may be in the
> > world. Bland and without character.
>
> I have had some decent coffee at Starbucks. It is better than most
> franchised coffee shops, but not really worth the money. I get much
> better coffee at the corner bakery/coffee shop. They have fair trade
> coffee and have three choices each day, one being flavoured. They also
> do espresso, latte, cappuccino and all those foofoo coffee drinks. Unlke
> $tarbucks, they have an impressive assortment muffins, scones, cookies
> and squares.
>
>
>
> > Last year I discovered the joys of Vietnamese coffee:
> > https://postimg.cc/MfHNM50g Never thought I'd like a coffee with
> > condensed milk, but it's just heavenly. Their coffee is of the Robusta
> > type (very high in caffeine, so be warned) and roasted in a particular
> > way. So it has a distinctive taste and much thicker than normal
> > coffee. I have found it almost impossible outside Vietnam to get an
> > authentic and properly made version of this coffee. I really miss it.
>
> I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
> usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
> something I am not used to. The first time I had it was after dinner,
> and I was awake until about 4 am.

I think you're right about that. McDonald's quality control is probably the highest in the food industry. It's not great coffee but it's a lot better than the restaurants I've been going to. These restaurants/coffee shops do a lot of business serving breakfast. The food's pretty good and yet they will serve it with a substandard cup of coffee. That's something that I cannot wrap my brain around.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:41:16 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-04-02 7:02 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:41:16 -0500,
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>>> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>>> and roasts
>>>
>>>
>>> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet,
>>
>> Planet?
>>
>>> let me know if
>>> you agree. In no particular order
>>>
>>> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>>> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>
>I may beg to differ. As much as I disparage McD's food<?>, their coffee
>really improved a lot. I have posted here about picking some up on a
>road trip a couple years and how my wife and I agreed that it was
>excellent.

So McDonalds coffee isn't bad because a couple of years ago you had an
excellent cup of coffee from McDonalds.

And the world was never the same again.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:41:16 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-04-02 7:02 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 13:41:16 -0500,
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>>> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>>> and roasts
>>>
>>>
>>> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet,
>>
>> Planet?
>>
>>> let me know if
>>> you agree. In no particular order
>>>
>>> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>>> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>
>I may beg to differ. As much as I disparage McD's food<?>, their coffee
>really improved a lot. I have posted here about picking some up on a
>road trip a couple years and how my wife and I agreed that it was
>excellent. It was significant that my wife agreed heartily because we
>had had to car pool for a while and since I started work so much earlier
>she would stop at McDs for breakfast. She hated their coffee and would
>stop at Hortons. After several warnings about bringing Hortons coffee
>into McDs they kicked her out.
>
>
>
>
>>> Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
>>> if I can find it in whole bean)
>>>
>>> Starbucks
>>
>> Starbucks is just awful - no matter where the store may be in the
>> world. Bland and without character.
>
>I have had some decent coffee at Starbucks. It is better than most
>franchised coffee shops, but not really worth the money. I get much
>better coffee at the corner bakery/coffee shop. They have fair trade
>coffee and have three choices each day, one being flavoured. They also
>do espresso, latte, cappuccino and all those foofoo coffee drinks. Unlke
>$tarbucks, they have an impressive assortment muffins, scones, cookies
>and squares.
>
>
>
>> Last year I discovered the joys of Vietnamese coffee:
>> https://postimg.cc/MfHNM50g Never thought I'd like a coffee with
>> condensed milk, but it's just heavenly. Their coffee is of the Robusta
>> type (very high in caffeine, so be warned) and roasted in a particular
>> way. So it has a distinctive taste and much thicker than normal
>> coffee. I have found it almost impossible outside Vietnam to get an
>> authentic and properly made version of this coffee. I really miss it.
>
>I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
>usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
>something I am not used to.

I don't have a sweet tooth, but I do love it with the Vietnamese
coffee. It's quite a strong, bitter coffee because they use Robusta
beans. It compliments it so well and gives it a thick consistency.
They also do a version with egg yolk, which may sound bizarre but is
also delicious.


> The first time I had it was after dinner,
>and I was awake until about 4 am.

LOL, yes. It's probably the strongest coffee I've ever had. But it
tastes so damned good. 1 cup is enough, when I have two I'm buzzing
for a couple of hours.

On 2019-04-02 7:50 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 1:39:10 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it.
>> I usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk
>> added something I am not used to. The first time I had it was after
>> dinner, and I was awake until about 4 am.
>
> I think you're right about that. McDonald's quality control is
> probably the highest in the food industry. It's not great coffee but
> it's a lot better than the restaurants I've been going to. These
> restaurants/coffee shops do a lot of business serving breakfast. The
> food's pretty good and yet they will serve it with a substandard cup
> of coffee. That's something that I cannot wrap my brain around.
>

To be perfectly honest, i had been hearing people saying how good it
was. Given my experiences with McDs, I was reluctant to try it, but one
day I was supposed to go hiking with a friend. I was early and there was
a McDs nearby, so I tried it. It was better than it used to be. The
next time I tried it was about two years later and I don' know if they
had improved the beans, the grind or the machine, but it was really
good. I left on a high note. I have not had it again since.

On 2019-04-02 8:09 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:41:16 -0400, Dave Smith

>> I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
>> usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
>> something I am not used to.
>
> I don't have a sweet tooth, but I do love it with the Vietnamese
> coffee. It's quite a strong, bitter coffee because they use Robusta
> beans. It compliments it so well and gives it a thick consistency.
> They also do a version with egg yolk, which may sound bizarre but is
> also delicious.
>

Between the SCM and that powerful coffee there is a lot of good flavour.
I wish there as some way to do it without that sweetness.
>
>> The first time I had it was after dinner,
>> and I was awake until about 4 am.
>
> LOL, yes. It's probably the strongest coffee I've ever had. But it
> tastes so damned good. 1 cup is enough, when I have two I'm buzzing
> for a couple of hours.

I wish I had known about that stuff when I used to have to work midnight
shifts. I could have had one coffee very early in the shift and I would
have been buzzed all night. There are times when I have had trouble
sleeping because I had too much coffee or had it too late in the
evening, but this was early evening, about 6:30, and it worked hours
longer than coffee has ever lasted on me before.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 16:36:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 9:39:57 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 2:14:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> > > Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>> > > much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>> > > and roasts
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
>> > > you agree. In no particular order
>> > >
>> > > Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>> > > include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>> > >
>> > > foldgers
>> > >
>> > > any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
>> > >
>> > > Maxwell House
>> > >
>> > > Nescafe
>> > >
>> > > Hills brothers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
>> > > if I can find it in whole bean)
>> > >
>> > > Starbucks
>> > >
>> > > Community
>> > >
>> > > Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
>> > >
>> > > Eight O'Clock
>> > >
>> > > Lavazzaa
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
>> > >
>> > > Trader Joes whole bean
>> > >
>> > > Gevalia Whole bean
>> > >
>> > > Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
>> > >
>> > > Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
>> > > my list.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
>> > > ~Toidi Uoy
>> >
>> > Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. ...
>>
>> That's because PEOPLE don't know HOW to brew a DECENT Cuppa!
>>
>> Rules:
>>
>> 1. Get good coffee
>> 2. DO NOT BOIL COFFEE!!!
>> 3. Make GOOD COFFEE STRONG ENUF!!
>> 4. For an EXTRA TREAT, add one good squirt of CBD Oil and one DAB Hershey's SYRUP!
>>
>> And I call that my Cuppa PLUS! :-)
>>
>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and GOOD COFFEE KIND-O-SEWER!
>
>I think the reason it's hard to get a great cup of coffee is that the beans have a very short lifespan between being roasted and when it's brewed. Most coffee is brewed outside of that window. This assumes that the beans are of good quality.


very true, this is why it is important to always buy whole bean coffee
and then freeze the beans until ready to grind, at least that is what
I do...

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

On 4/2/2019 8:34 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 16:36:40 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 9:39:57 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 2:14:13 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 8:41:23 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>>>> Nor real sure if this is off topic or not since it kinda does not have
>>>>> much to do with cooking or recipes, just mainly coffee brands, blends,
>>>>> and roasts
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here in my opinion are the worst coffee on the planet, let me know if
>>>>> you agree. In no particular order
>>>>>
>>>>> Mcdonalds coffee (any fast food coffee for that matter this does not
>>>>> include diners such as IHOP and waffle house)
>>>>>
>>>>> foldgers
>>>>>
>>>>> any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)
>>>>>
>>>>> Maxwell House
>>>>>
>>>>> Nescafe
>>>>>
>>>>> Hills brothers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Coffee that is just ok (I will drink it if nothing else is around and
>>>>> if I can find it in whole bean)
>>>>>
>>>>> Starbucks
>>>>>
>>>>> Community
>>>>>
>>>>> Diner coffee (I will not drink it but I have had it in the past)
>>>>>
>>>>> Eight O'Clock
>>>>>
>>>>> Lavazzaa
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Coffee I like and/or buy regularly
>>>>>
>>>>> Trader Joes whole bean
>>>>>
>>>>> Gevalia Whole bean
>>>>>
>>>>> Brothers Gourmet whole bean (not sure if they are still around)
>>>>>
>>>>> Please rate the brands that you have tried especially if it is not on
>>>>> my list.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "There are idiots among us, and they all believe in a god"
>>>>> ~Toidi Uoy
>>>> Most of the coffee served on this rock is not very good. ...
>>> That's because PEOPLE don't know HOW to brew a DECENT Cuppa!
>>>
>>> Rules:
>>>
>>> 1. Get good coffee
>>> 2. DO NOT BOIL COFFEE!!!
>>> 3. Make GOOD COFFEE STRONG ENUF!!
>>> 4. For an EXTRA TREAT, add one good squirt of CBD Oil and one DAB Hershey's SYRUP!
>>>
>>> And I call that my Cuppa PLUS! :-)
>>>
>>> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and GOOD COFFEE KIND-O-SEWER!
>> I think the reason it's hard to get a great cup of coffee is that the beans have a very short lifespan between being roasted and when it's brewed. Most coffee is brewed outside of that window. This assumes that the beans are of good quality.
>
> very true, this is why it is important to always buy whole bean coffee
> and then freeze the beans until ready to grind, at least that is what
> I do...
>
> --
>
> ____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture . Over
time this will degrade the coffee . Now keeping the package sealed is
another thing , that keeps the oils from evaporating or oxidizing . When
I blend my coffee I do it 400 gm at a time into a Tupperware container .
The rest stays in the foil/plastic bag with all the air squeezed out .
That Tupper container is opened about every 4th day to refill the
grinder hopper .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 7:13:10 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:41:16 -0400, Dave Smith
....
> >
> >I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
> >usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
> >something I am not used to.
>
> I don't have a sweet tooth, but I do love it with the Vietnamese
> coffee. It's quite a strong, bitter coffee because they use Robusta
> beans. It compliments it so well and gives it a thick consistency.
> They also do a version with egg yolk, which may sound bizarre but is
> also delicious.
>
>
> > The first time I had it was after dinner,
> >and I was awake until about 4 am.
>
> LOL, yes. It's probably the strongest coffee I've ever had. But it
> tastes so damned good. 1 cup is enough, when I have two I'm buzzing
> for a couple of hours.

Now THAT sounds like MY KINDA COFFEE! BUZZING COFFEE! Mmmmm!! :-)

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Fan-O-Buzzing-Coffee!

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 20:48:42 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
>them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture . Over
>time this will degrade the coffee . Now keeping the package sealed is
>another thing , that keeps the oils from evaporating or oxidizing . When
>I blend my coffee I do it 400 gm at a time into a Tupperware container .
>The rest stays in the foil/plastic bag with all the air squeezed out .
>That Tupper container is opened about every 4th day to refill the
>grinder hopper .

Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.

So much for coffee snobism.

On Tue, 02 Apr 2019 20:34:29 -0500,
wrote:


>very true, this is why it is important to always buy whole bean coffee
>and then freeze the beans until ready to grind, at least that is what
>I do...

Unfortunately, freezing beans doesn't help much at all unless you can
freeze at some insanely low temperature (I can't recall the
temperature but it's way below the capabilities of domestic and even
commercial refrigeration. Beans can also absorb smells and flavours
from other foods stored in the freezer.

The main things is to keep beans away from light, oxygen and moisture
in an *airtight* container at room temperature (for us mere mortals).

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 20:48:42 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:


>Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
>them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture .

Yes. Roasted beans are very dry, and so will absorb any moisture
rapidly.

On 4/2/2019 9:22 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 20:48:42 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
>> Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
>> them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture . Over
>> time this will degrade the coffee . Now keeping the package sealed is
>> another thing , that keeps the oils from evaporating or oxidizing . When
>> I blend my coffee I do it 400 gm at a time into a Tupperware container .
>> The rest stays in the foil/plastic bag with all the air squeezed out .
>> That Tupper container is opened about every 4th day to refill the
>> grinder hopper .
> Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
> coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
> freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
> than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.
>
> So much for coffee snobism.

Â* You think I'm a coffee snob ? Shit man , I just like a good cup of
coffee in the morning . I make mine in a 5 cup Mr Coffee drip machine ,
about as basic as it gets . I've just found that fresh ground has a much
better flavor , and it's just not that much trouble . My coffee beans
come from Walmart fer cryin' out loud !

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 4:22:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 20:48:42 -0500, Terry Coombs >
> wrote:
>
> >Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
> >them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture . Over
> >time this will degrade the coffee . Now keeping the package sealed is
> >another thing , that keeps the oils from evaporating or oxidizing . When
> >I blend my coffee I do it 400 gm at a time into a Tupperware container .
> >The rest stays in the foil/plastic bag with all the air squeezed out .
> >That Tupper container is opened about every 4th day to refill the
> >grinder hopper .
>
> Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
> coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
> freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
> than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.
>
> So much for coffee snobism.

$15 is way too much to pay for a stinkin' coffee machine. I use a plastic drip filter thingie with a cheap paper filter. The whole thing, with 90 filters cost $3 at Diaso, I hope you're proud of your snobby ass.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 3:10:48 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-04-02 8:09 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:41:16 -0400, Dave Smith
>
> >> I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
> >> usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
> >> something I am not used to.
> >
> > I don't have a sweet tooth, but I do love it with the Vietnamese
> > coffee. It's quite a strong, bitter coffee because they use Robusta
> > beans. It compliments it so well and gives it a thick consistency.
> > They also do a version with egg yolk, which may sound bizarre but is
> > also delicious.
> >
>
> Between the SCM and that powerful coffee there is a lot of good flavour.
> I wish there as some way to do it without that sweetness.
> >
> >> The first time I had it was after dinner,
> >> and I was awake until about 4 am.
> >
> > LOL, yes. It's probably the strongest coffee I've ever had. But it
> > tastes so damned good. 1 cup is enough, when I have two I'm buzzing
> > for a couple of hours.
>
> I wish I had known about that stuff when I used to have to work midnight
> shifts. I could have had one coffee very early in the shift and I would
> have been buzzed all night. There are times when I have had trouble
> sleeping because I had too much coffee or had it too late in the
> evening, but this was early evening, about 6:30, and it worked hours
> longer than coffee has ever lasted on me before.

I love condensed milk but that stuff gives me diarrhea. My guess is that it's the same with other Asians. That's the mystery of Vietnamese coffee. I asked the VN guy at work but he skirted the issue and I never got a straight answer. My guess is that those guys have built up an immunity to condensed milk by drinking the stuff regularly. The food researchers should be studying this medical mystery.

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 8:48:45 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> On 4/2/2019 8:34 PM, wrote:
> >
> > it is important to always buy whole bean coffee
> > and then freeze the beans until ready to grind, at least that is what
> > I do...
>
> Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
> them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture . Over
> time this will degrade the coffee .
>
True. Freezing the beans is one of the worst thing you can do to coffee.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 22:15:32 -0500, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 4/2/2019 9:22 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 20:48:42 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
>>> them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture . Over
>>> time this will degrade the coffee . Now keeping the package sealed is
>>> another thing , that keeps the oils from evaporating or oxidizing . When
>>> I blend my coffee I do it 400 gm at a time into a Tupperware container .
>>> The rest stays in the foil/plastic bag with all the air squeezed out .
>>> That Tupper container is opened about every 4th day to refill the
>>> grinder hopper .
>> Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
>> coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
>> freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
>> than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.
>>
>> So much for coffee snobism.
>
> * You think I'm a coffee snob ? Shit man , I just like a good cup of
>coffee in the morning . I make mine in a 5 cup Mr Coffee drip machine ,
>about as basic as it gets . I've just found that fresh ground has a much
>better flavor , and it's just not that much trouble . My coffee beans
>come from Walmart fer cryin' out loud !

My comment was more in general.

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 20:16:38 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 4:22:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 20:48:42 -0500, Terry Coombs >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Actually , freezing the beans is not a good thing . Every time you pull
>> >them out to get some they condense a small amount of moisture . Over
>> >time this will degrade the coffee . Now keeping the package sealed is
>> >another thing , that keeps the oils from evaporating or oxidizing . When
>> >I blend my coffee I do it 400 gm at a time into a Tupperware container .
>> >The rest stays in the foil/plastic bag with all the air squeezed out .
>> >That Tupper container is opened about every 4th day to refill the
>> >grinder hopper .
>>
>> Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
>> coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
>> freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
>> than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.
>>
>> So much for coffee snobism.
>
>$15 is way too much to pay for a stinkin' coffee machine. I use a plastic drip filter thingie with a cheap paper filter. The whole thing, with 90 filters cost $3 at Diaso, I hope you're proud of your snobby ass.

Damn!

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 21:10:44 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-04-02 8:09 p.m., Je?us wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:41:16 -0400, Dave Smith
>
>>> I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
>>> usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
>>> something I am not used to.
>>
>> I don't have a sweet tooth, but I do love it with the Vietnamese
>> coffee. It's quite a strong, bitter coffee because they use Robusta
>> beans. It compliments it so well and gives it a thick consistency.
>> They also do a version with egg yolk, which may sound bizarre but is
>> also delicious.
>>
>
>Between the SCM and that powerful coffee there is a lot of good flavour.
>I wish there as some way to do it without that sweetness.

Evaporated milk is the same as condensed milk, but without the sugar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evaporated_milk

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:08:23 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 7:13:10 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 19:41:16 -0400, Dave Smith
>...
>> >
>> >I was quite impressed with Vietnamese style coffee when I had it. I
>> >usually drink coffee black, so the sweetened condensed milk added
>> >something I am not used to.
>>
>> I don't have a sweet tooth, but I do love it with the Vietnamese
>> coffee. It's quite a strong, bitter coffee because they use Robusta
>> beans. It compliments it so well and gives it a thick consistency.
>> They also do a version with egg yolk, which may sound bizarre but is
>> also delicious.
>>
>>
>> > The first time I had it was after dinner,
>> >and I was awake until about 4 am.
>>
>> LOL, yes. It's probably the strongest coffee I've ever had. But it
>> tastes so damned good. 1 cup is enough, when I have two I'm buzzing
>> for a couple of hours.
>
>Now THAT sounds like MY KINDA COFFEE! BUZZING COFFEE! Mmmmm!! :-)

It'll definitely wake you up, because the beans are from Robusta
instead of the more common Arabica in the West. Much more caffeine.
https://enjoyjava.com/robusta-coffee/

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 9:22:46 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
....
> Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
> coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
> freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
> than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.
>
> So much for coffee snobism.

Yep! I used a COFFEE SLICER for YEARS before I obtained an actual Coffee GRINDER, and YES I know the difference (slow Burr Grinder grinding vs. fast whirling Slicer Blades CUTTING UP the coffee beans!!) but as long as I got GOOD COFFEE and USED ENOUGH OF IT... :-)

And yes, I use a LOT of coffee when I make a DRIP POT! Because I make GOOD COFFEE and I make it STRONG ENUF! :-)

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Maker of Good Strong Sumatran COFFEE!

On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 8:25:40 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 2, 2019 at 9:22:46 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> ...
> > Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
> > coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
> > freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
> > than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.
> >
> > So much for coffee snobism.
>
> Yep! I used a COFFEE SLICER for YEARS before I obtained an actual Coffee GRINDER, and YES I know the difference (slow Burr Grinder grinding vs. fast whirling Slicer Blades CUTTING UP the coffee beans!!) but as long as I got GOOD COFFEE and USED ENOUGH OF IT... :-)
>
> And yes, I use a LOT of coffee when I make a DRIP POT! Because I make GOOD COFFEE and I make it STRONG ENUF! :-)
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Maker of Good Strong Sumatran COFFEE!

i use 'president's choice' medium roast. it's really good. it's better than our beloved tim horton's. and i prefer it over starbucks. it's even good with 1% milk.

On 4/2/2019 12:41 PM, wrote:

> any brand any type of instant coffee (that stuff should be illegal)

Then you are NOT a "Serious coffee" drinker.

I roasted my own bean fer yrs. Specifically, decaf. I've roasted
almost every type of decaf bean imaginable. You know what they all
lack? Body!

The only decaf I ever found that had any body was Taster's Choice Decaf.
I used it fer yrs in cooking. The only reason I don't use it anymore,
is it's made by Nestle's, which I now boycott.

nb

On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 10:25:41 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> ...
>> > Y'all make it way too complicated. We've got a $15 dollar filter
>> > coffee machine. We use vacuum packed ground coffee from Aldi that we
>> > freeze until we need it. This makes good coffee that's much better
>> > than what our Delonghi machine makes with Whoop Dee Do whole beans.
>> >
>> > So much for coffee snobism.
>
>I do about the same as you, Bruce and Terry Combs. 4 cup
>Mr.Coffee drip machine. and cheap ground coffee. No big deal. I
>actually tired of coffee so now have switched to green tea for a
>bit.
>
>As far as commerical coffee, I'm surprised to NOT hear 7-11
>coffee praised from those that have that store around. That is
>very good coffee and probably their largest money maker.


you should buy you some mint plants, and make your own mint tea....

There will be less rodent and roach poop in your tea

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