On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 09:44:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/9/2019 5:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>
>> My husband hates all forms of squash. Winter squash, summer squash,
>> it just doesn't matter.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>I used to agree, but it is not the squash but the preparation. Most
>people boil and mash it and yes, it is nasty. Peel and cut up a
>butternut squash and roast it. Slice it about 3/8 to 1/2" thick. Toss
>in olive oil, lay it one a sheet and roast, turning over when the bottom
>gets browned. It is delicious that way. Works for sweet potatoes too.

I thought you only liked pumpkin in pumpkin pie.

https://thenovicechefblog.com/cushaw...how-to-use-it/

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.

Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 3:46:02 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>
> Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.

Shit, I can get pumpkin ravioli at the grocery store.

Awaiting your next unfounded generalization with bated breath.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 09 Apr 2019 Gary wrote:
wrote:
>>
>> I've had sweet potato pie that tasted just like pumpkin pie.
>
>That's what I make all the time. It's all about the spice. Fresh
>sweet potatoes are much easier to deal with than fresh pumpkin.
>Taste for the pie is all in the spice that you use.

People use canned yams but most use canned pumpkin which is actually
canned butternut squash. It's near impossible to make decent pumpkin
pie from fresh pumpkin... needs to be slow baked for many hours to get
rid of all the water, and even so it's very stringy.

I grow pumpkin but it's used as Halloween and Thanksgiving decor.
Eventually they go out on my front steps but then the squirrels burrow
into them to eat the seeds, then the deer finish them off. My wife
likes pumpin pie but I don't care for it... she buys a small one from
a bakery. I enjoy carving a pumpkin for a Halloween decoration.

Yesterday we had a canteloupe, all the rinds and seeds went out my
window, three hours later the deer ate it all including the potato
parings from my potatoe, bell pepper, and asparagus 16 egg omelet...
they even eat the core, stem, and seeds fom the peppers
https://postimg.cc/gallery/katkjky0/
https://postimg.cc/gallery/2lk77prk8/

Right now it's POURING... I dug the hole for Peachie just in time.
Soon Kath will bring Jilly to the Vet for her yearly, and will bring
Peachie home. Haing pets is filled with pleasure and grief.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>
>Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.

Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
said "winter squash dip".

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:02:41 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 3:46:02 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >
> > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>
> Shit, I can get pumpkin ravioli at the grocery store.
>
> Awaiting your next unfounded generalization with bated breath.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

As we all know, the world revolves around you.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >
> >Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>
> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
> said "winter squash dip".

Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 17:34:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/8/2019 3:59 PM, wrote:
>> I don't eat pumpkin because it tastes fairly good, I eat it because it
>> has more alpha carotene than any other food and the amount of it in
>> your body has a lot to do with how long you will live in a way no
>> other nutrient does, for some reason there is no synthetic alpha
>> carotene.
>>
>
>I think I'd rather die young. One piece of pie a yer is enough for me.
>Other forms are nasty.

Very few pumpkin pies are made with pumpkin, most are made with
butternut squash... canned pumpkin is butternut squash. It's
permitted because botanically they are both varietals of the same
plant. Pumpkins contain way too much water to be used for a pie
filling. Pumpkins are used for Jack O' Lanterns but mostly for
livestock feed. A small herd of deer can clean out a large pumpkin
field. Deer love melons too... I put the rinds and seeds outside my
window and in less sthan 24 hours every bit is gone.

On 4/9/2019 3:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 09:44:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 4/9/2019 5:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My husband hates all forms of squash. Winter squash, summer squash,
>>> it just doesn't matter.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>> I used to agree, but it is not the squash but the preparation. Most
>> people boil and mash it and yes, it is nasty. Peel and cut up a
>> butternut squash and roast it. Slice it about 3/8 to 1/2" thick. Toss
>> in olive oil, lay it one a sheet and roast, turning over when the bottom
>> gets browned. It is delicious that way. Works for sweet potatoes too.
>
> I thought you only liked pumpkin in pumpkin pie.
>
I did not mention pumpkin above. Butternut and Acorn squash. Works
with sweet potatoes too. Don't like pumpkin aside from once slice of pie
that is heavily seasoned and has whipped cream on it.

On 4/9/2019 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
>

Pumpkin pie is usually made with the canned stuff. Halloween pumpkins
are mostly used for decoration.

On 2019-04-09 4:49 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/9/2019 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference
>> which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin
>> pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around
>> the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and
>> Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during
>> those holidays.
>>
>
> Pumpkin pie is usually made with the canned stuff.Â* Halloween pumpkins
> are mostly used for decoration.


It will be here. I once made one from scratch. I baked the pie and
scrapped it out, pureed it and added the fixings. I thought it was
delicious. My wife objected to some stringiness in it. That was a lot of
extra work for negative feedback, so it was back to the canned stuff for me.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 16:45:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/9/2019 3:20 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 09:44:06 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/9/2019 5:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> My husband hates all forms of squash. Winter squash, summer squash,
>>>> it just doesn't matter.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>
>>> I used to agree, but it is not the squash but the preparation. Most
>>> people boil and mash it and yes, it is nasty. Peel and cut up a
>>> butternut squash and roast it. Slice it about 3/8 to 1/2" thick. Toss
>>> in olive oil, lay it one a sheet and roast, turning over when the bottom
>>> gets browned. It is delicious that way. Works for sweet potatoes too.
>>
>> I thought you only liked pumpkin in pumpkin pie.
>>
>I did not mention pumpkin above. Butternut and Acorn squash. Works
>with sweet potatoes too. Don't like pumpkin aside from once slice of pie
>that is heavily seasoned and has whipped cream on it.

That's the terminology problem. To me there's only pumpkin, edible or
ornamental, and zucchini.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>> >
>> >Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>>
>> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
>> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
>> said "winter squash dip".
>
>Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.

I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
Christmas easily.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:49:36 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/9/2019 4:35 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
> >
>
> Pumpkin pie is usually made with the canned stuff. Halloween pumpkins
> are mostly used for decoration.

I am well aware of how things go down in the US of A. I was just 'splainin' things to the furerners.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:06:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >> >
> >> >Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >>
> >> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
> >> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
> >> said "winter squash dip".
> >
> >Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
>
> I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
> Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
> Christmas easily.

I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I would never try that again.

Fresh pumpkins don't last very long - probably because we like to cut holes in them for Halloween.

On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 14:17:36 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:06:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>> >> >
>> >> >Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>> >>
>> >> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
>> >> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
>> >> said "winter squash dip".
>> >
>> >Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
>>
>> I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
>> Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
>> Christmas easily.
>
>I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I would never try that again.

This may be the only case where canning improves the product then.

>Fresh pumpkins don't last very long - probably because we like to cut holes in them for Halloween.

lol

On Tue, 09 Apr 2019 22:34:23 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 20:18 9 Apr 2019, Bruce wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:36:03 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 11:11 9 Apr 2019, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 02:57:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Monday, April 8, 2019 at 8:29:39 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 20:28:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >On 4/8/2019 6:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> >> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 17:34:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski >
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> On 4/8/2019 3:59 PM, wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> I don't eat pumpkin because it tastes fairly good, I eat it
>>>>>> >>>> because it has more alpha carotene than any other food and the
>>>>>> >>>> amount of it in your body has a lot to do with how long you
>>>>>> >>>> will live in a way no other nutrient does, for some reason
>>>>>> >>>> there is no synthetic alpha carotene.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I think I'd rather die young. One piece of pie a yer is enough
>>>>>> >>> for me. Other forms are nasty.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Other forms of pumpkin?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >Other forms of cooking it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've never heard of someone not liking pumpkin before. I always
>>>>>> think I should do more with it. And then I don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>My husband hates all forms of squash. Winter squash, summer squash,
>>>>>it just doesn't matter.
>>>>
>>>> But they're all so neutral in flavour.
>>>
>>>Insipid is a better way to describe it.
>>
>> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>
>You were probably grateful for the flavour of the dips not the pumpkin.

Yes, maybe.

>Some people like pumpkin but I'm not a fan.

I think it can be great oven roasted. For instance what's called
Queensland blue he
<https://www.harrisseeds.com/products/12428-squash-queensland-blue?variant=276801847313>

Or is that not pumpkin, but winter squash? Or winner squash.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:50:54 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I doubt most Americans care much for squash. They do like pumpkin pie though because it doesn't taste like squash. It's kind of special and has associations with holidays that apple pie does not.
>
I like yellow crook neck squash fried, without a breading, but heavy on the
onions and pepper. As far as pumpkin pie, I can take it or leave it and
generally leave it.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 7:59:46 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 7:03:34 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>
> > Perhaps he just hasn't had it fixed in a good way?
>
> If I had a dollar for every time I heard that, I could retire.
>
I hear the same comment when I say I detest Brussel sprouts.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:17:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I would never try that again.
>
Did you/do you use sugar pumpkins? They're small and are what is used for making
pumpkin pies.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:59:33 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:17:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I would never try that again.
> >
> Did you/do you use sugar pumpkins? They're small and are what is used for making
> pumpkin pies.

No I did not. That's probably where I went wrong. OTOH, making that pumpkin pie pretty much took all the wind out of my sails. My days of messing with pumpkins are over.

On Tue, 09 Apr 2019 09:56:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-04-09 8:59 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 7:03:34 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>> My husband hates all forms of squash. Winter squash, summer squash,
>> >>> it just doesn't matter.
>> >>
>> >> No offense to him but that does sound a bit odd. So many ways to
>> >> prepare it. Perhaps he just hasn't had it fixed in a good way?
>> >
>> > If I had a dollar for every time I heard that, I could retire.
>> >
>> > If the guy wants to dislike foods, that's his privilege.
>>
>> I disliked squash for years. Then one year we were doing Thanksgiving
>> dinner for our son when he was in Montreal and his girlfriend told us
>> that she roasted it and seasoned it with salt,pepper, brown sugar,
>> ginger and curry powder. I am now a squash fan. I am still not
>> interested in turnip.
>
>Big difference between summer and winter squash too. Like I said,
>hard to believe someone (except for maybe Julie) would hate both
>unless they have never had it prepared decently. And someone
>crying about the smell of squash cooking? Get outta here.
>
>"Heck, I'd eat a turd if it was prepared properly,"
>Bruce would have fun with that ingredient list.

By the way, Gary, if you're into turds, maybe this is a good T shirt
for you:
<https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/09/14/12051046-6903035-The_position_of_the_shot_glass_on_this_yellow_T_sh irt_is_sure_to-a-29_1554817625471.jpg>

Gary wrote:

> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 7:06:34 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > But they're all so neutral in flavour.
> > > >
> > > > Not to him. He can't even stand the smell of winter squash
> > > > cooking.
> > >
> > > What smell? Does he have a giant super sensitive schnoze or
> > > something? ;o
> >
> > You don't find that the smell of a baking acorn squash (for example)
> > permeates the kitchen and adjacent rooms?
>
> ummmm... no.
> I've never disliked the smell of baked possum either though.

I can smell it baking but we like it.

BTW, thanks for the running advice. Charlotte is putting it to good
use and with no fancy measurements, seems to be doing about 1 mile in
just over 10 minutes. She's also dropped to 148 from 158 and well in
goal for Navy entry. ASVAB Friday.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:06:08 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:59:33 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >
> > Did you/do you use sugar pumpkins? They're small and are what is used for making
> > pumpkin pies.
>
> No I did not. That's probably where I went wrong. OTOH, making that pumpkin pie pretty much took all the wind out of my sails. My days of messing with pumpkins are over.
>
I can understand that. I've not made any pies from any pumpkins I've carved
but they were messy taking the stringy guts out so I could plop a candle
inside.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 7:03:34 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > My husband hates all forms of squash. Winter squash, summer
> > > squash, it just doesn't matter.
> >
> > No offense to him but that does sound a bit odd. So many ways to
> > prepare it. Perhaps he just hasn't had it fixed in a good way?
>
> If I had a dollar for every time I heard that, I could retire.
>
> If the guy wants to dislike foods, that's his privilege.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Same here with Collard and Turnip greens (and liver but finally found
one way I eat chicken livers without throwing up at the taste).

wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 17:34:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 4/8/2019 3:59 PM, wrote:
>>> I don't eat pumpkin because it tastes fairly good, I eat it because it
>>> has more alpha carotene than any other food and the amount of it in
>>> your body has a lot to do with how long you will live in a way no
>>> other nutrient does, for some reason there is no synthetic alpha
>>> carotene.
>>>
>>
>> I think I'd rather die young. One piece of pie a yer is enough for me.
>> Other forms are nasty.


> I put the rinds and seeds outside my
> window and in less sthan 24 hours every bit is gone.
>

Popeye, I bet yoose place stinks like a landfill or sewer plant.

dsi1 > wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>
> Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their
> pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me
> what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>
>

Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
everything. Its damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other, or hear
about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, its pumpkin overload.

Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldnt be pumpkin lattes and pumpkin
flavored Oreos if they didnt. Here in middle America, at least.

dsi1 > wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:06:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
>>>>> their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck
>>>>> out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these
>>>>> large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>>>>
>>>> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
>>>> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
>>>> said "winter squash dip".
>>>
>>> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference
>>> which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie
>>> with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the
>>> end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and
>>> Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
>>
>> I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
>> Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
>> Christmas easily.
>
> I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going
> to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I
> would never try that again.
>
> Fresh pumpkins don't last very long - probably because we like to cut
> holes in them for Halloween.
>

Carving pumpkins arent pie pumpkins.

On 2019-04-09 11:27 p.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:06:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

>>> I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
>>> Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
>>> Christmas easily.
>>
>> I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going
>> to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I
>> would never try that again.
>>
>> Fresh pumpkins don't last very long - probably because we like to cut
>> holes in them for Halloween.
>>
>
> Carving pumpkins arent pie pumpkins.
>

I used a small pumpkin, the type that is supposed to be used for pie. It
was wet and stringy. It tasted great, but that texture was off putting
for my wife.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:35:57 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> > >
> > >Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >
> > Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
> > maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
> > said "winter squash dip".
>
> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.

Perhaps on your rock. Halloween is when we can find those big, tasteless
monsters that are grown specifically to be turned into jack o' lanterns
and then wasted (or eaten by squirrels). We can find the small "pie"
pumpkins right through Thanksgiving.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:59:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

> That's the terminology problem. To me there's only pumpkin, edible or
> ornamental, and zucchini.

If you call everything "pumpkin", how can anybody know what you're actually
referring to?

Do you call all summer squashes "zucchini"? The yellow crooknecks? The
pattypans?

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 03:21:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:59:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>
>> That's the terminology problem. To me there's only pumpkin, edible or
>> ornamental, and zucchini.
>
>If you call everything "pumpkin", how can anybody know what you're actually
>referring to?

There are various versions, just like there are versions of apples,
but they're all pumpkins or apples.

>Do you call all summer squashes "zucchini"? The yellow crooknecks? The
>pattypans?

I've seen and grown green zucchinis and yellow (golden) ones. I've
never seen a crookneck. I've seen yellow "pattypans". I don't know
what they're called here. Squash maybe. An American invention maybe.
If they're available in the Netherlands, they're a new thing there.

In article >, says...
>
> dsi1 > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >
> > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their
> > pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me
> > what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >
> >
>
> Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
> everything. It?s damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other, or hear
> about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, it?s pumpkin overload.
>
> Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldn?t be pumpkin lattes and pumpkin
> flavored Oreos if they didn?t. Here in middle America, at least.

By now, you should know that Bruce knows nothing about cooking and
Dsl knows nothing about anything.

Janet UK

Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > dsi1 > wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> > >
> > > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their
> > > pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me
> > > what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
> > everything. It?s damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other, or hear
> > about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, it?s pumpkin overload.
> >
> > Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldn?t be pumpkin lattes and pumpkin
> > flavored Oreos if they didn?t. Here in middle America, at least.
>
> By now, you should know that Bruce knows nothing about cooking and
> Dsl knows nothing about anything.
>
> Janet UK

Fuggin JanetUK nailed it. lol ;-D

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:27:06 PM UTC-5, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >
> > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their
> > pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me
> > what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >
> >
>
> Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
> everything. Its damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other, or hear
> about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, its pumpkin overload.
>
> Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldnt be pumpkin lattes and pumpkin
> flavored Oreos if they didnt. Here in middle America, at least.

I HEAR YA!!

I was BORN in the USA but never really cared for pumpkins. Not to eat! And "Pumpkin Spice" contains NO pumpkin, usually. Just Nutmeg mostly, mayde the spice Mace which is the "the lacy coating (called the aril) that is found on a nutmeg seed":

https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-mace-1807031

John Kuthe...

Nutmeg is hallucinogenic if you eat enough of it, so are morning glory seeds.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 7:55:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> Nutmeg is hallucinogenic if you eat enough of it, so are morning glory seeds.

Yes they are! Not the best though. And they are called "psychedelic" or "mind manifesting" agents! LSD (Dr. Albert Hoffman's 1938 semi-synthetic), psilocybin (from the mushrooms), mescaline (from the cacti) and Ayahuasca (made from several different types of plant, and the ingredients vary from place to place) have been known for millenia!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Psychedelic Chemistry Fan For Years!

dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:59:33 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:17:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I would never try that again.
> > >
> > Did you/do you use sugar pumpkins? They're small and are what is used for making
> > pumpkin pies.
>
> No I did not. That's probably where I went wrong. OTOH, making that pumpkin pie pretty much took all the wind out of my sails. My days of messing with pumpkins are over.

Well, I DID make pumpkin pies from scratch twice. Both times
using the jack-o-lantern kind of pumpkins. They work fine. Don't
let anyone tell you they are not good for pies. They certainly
are.

Pain in the ass to use though. This is why I switched to sweet
potato pies. Same taste if you use the same spice mix.

Gary > wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:59:33 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:17:39 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all
>>>> going to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain
>>>> weird. I would never try that again.
>>>>
>>> Did you/do you use sugar pumpkins? They're small and are what is used for making
>>> pumpkin pies.
>>
>> No I did not. That's probably where I went wrong. OTOH, making that
>> pumpkin pie pretty much took all the wind out of my sails. My days of
>> messing with pumpkins are over.
>
> Well, I DID make pumpkin pies from scratch twice. Both times
> using the jack-o-lantern kind of pumpkins. They work fine. Don't
> let anyone tell you they are not good for pies. They certainly
> are.
>
> Pain in the ass to use though. This is why I switched to sweet
> potato pies. Same taste if you use the same spice mix.
>

That is just not true. I can clearly taste the difference between pumpkin
pie and sweet potato pie, even when using the exact same recipe. Pumpkin
pie is one of my favorites, but I find sweet potato pie vile.