On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 03:21:03 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 4:59:34 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>
snip
>
>Do you call all summer squashes "zucchini"? The yellow crooknecks? The
>pattypans?
>
>Cindy Hamilton

that's a good question that I've never heard an answer to. I knew
about all hard skinned squash being called pumpkin.
Janet US

Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> Gary > wrote:
> > Pain in the ass to use though. This is why I switched to sweet
> > potato pies. Same taste if you use the same spice mix.
> >
>
> That is just not true. I can clearly taste the difference between pumpkin
> pie and sweet potato pie, even when using the exact same recipe. Pumpkin
> pie is one of my favorites, but I find sweet potato pie vile.

Well then we agree to disagree. Both are winter squash and I
readily switched to sweet potatoes for the same exact pies.

I might grant you a slight taste difference between the two but
to say one is a favorite and the other is "vile," is silly.
That's only your mind's perception. Bet you've never compared
the two side by side using same exact spices. Nope. One good and
the other vile? Bull friggin hockey! Don't be a baby.

Sorry. This is my daily pain-in-the-ass post.
I'm always good for at least one per day.

writes:
>Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>
>> Gary > wrote:
>> > Pain in the ass to use though. This is why I switched to sweet
>> > potato pies. Same taste if you use the same spice mix.
>> >
>>
>> That is just not true. I can clearly taste the difference between pumpkin
>> pie and sweet potato pie, even when using the exact same recipe. Pumpkin
>> pie is one of my favorites, but I find sweet potato pie vile.
>
>Well then we agree to disagree. Both are winter squash and I
>readily switched to sweet potatoes for the same exact pies.

you need better ventilation - sweet potato is not a type of squash

Bruce wrote:
>
> By the way, Gary, if you're into turds, maybe this is a good T shirt
> for you:
> <https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/09/14/12051046-6903035-The_position_of_the_shot_glass_on_this_yellow_T_sh irt_is_sure_to-a-29_1554817625471.jpg>

LOL! What a stupid waste of fabric. I'll bet you no one ever
bought that t-shirt.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

> > I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all
> > going to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird.
> > I would never try that again.
> >
> Did you/do you use sugar pumpkins? They're small and are what is used for
> making
> pumpkin pies.

No I did not. That's probably where I went wrong. OTOH, making that pumpkin
pie pretty much took all the wind out of my sails. My days of messing with
pumpkins are over.

===

The only ones we buy (if I haven't managed to grow enough) are zucchini!
They are the only ones we like We are not keen on pumpkin

On 2019-04-10 11:44 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Jinx the Minx wrote:

>> That is just not true. I can clearly taste the difference between pumpkin
>> pie and sweet potato pie, even when using the exact same recipe. Pumpkin
>> pie is one of my favorites, but I find sweet potato pie vile.
>
> Well then we agree to disagree. Both are winter squash and I
> readily switched to sweet potatoes for the same exact pies.

Sweet potatoes are a winter squash???? No. They are tuber.

Gary > wrote:
> Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>
>> Gary > wrote:
>>> Pain in the ass to use though. This is why I switched to sweet
>>> potato pies. Same taste if you use the same spice mix.
>>>
>>
>> That is just not true. I can clearly taste the difference between pumpkin
>> pie and sweet potato pie, even when using the exact same recipe. Pumpkin
>> pie is one of my favorites, but I find sweet potato pie vile.
>
> Well then we agree to disagree. Both are winter squash and I
> readily switched to sweet potatoes for the same exact pies.
>
> I might grant you a slight taste difference between the two but
> to say one is a favorite and the other is "vile," is silly.
> That's only your mind's perception. Bet you've never compared
> the two side by side using same exact spices. Nope. One good and
> the other vile? Bull friggin hockey! Don't be a baby.
>
> Sorry. This is my daily pain-in-the-ass post.
> I'm always good for at least one per day.
>

I come from a huge midwestern family. By huge, I mean my mothers
immediates (all my maternal aunts, uncles, spouses and cousins) number
around 50. There is no lack of several varieties of pies at holiday get
togethers, most almost always made by my aunt Joan, who is a prolific baker
of the highest quality. Yes, I can definitively say Ive tried them both,
exactly the same spices and recipes, made by the same person, side by side.
I can taste the difference. Sweet potato is no substitute. Its its own
thing.

Sweet potato pies make farts piquant tho.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 08:03:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>>
>> In article >, says...
>> >
>> > dsi1 > wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>> > >
>> > > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their
>> > > pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me
>> > > what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
>> > everything. It?s damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other, or hear
>> > about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, it?s pumpkin overload.
>> >
>> > Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldn?t be pumpkin lattes and pumpkin
>> > flavored Oreos if they didn?t. Here in middle America, at least.
>>
>> By now, you should know that Bruce knows nothing about cooking and
>> Dsl knows nothing about anything.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>Fuggin JanetUK nailed it. lol ;-D

Gary learnt a new expression. Huh huh.

wrote in message
...

Sweet potato pies make farts piquant tho.

==

LOL

Bruce wrote:
>
> I've seen and grown green zucchinis and yellow (golden) ones. I've
> never seen a crookneck. I've seen yellow "pattypans". I don't know
> what they're called here. Squash maybe. An American invention maybe.
> If they're available in the Netherlands, they're a new thing there.

The yellow squash (aka crookneck) (pic below) are my favorite
summer squash. Versitile too. Eat them raw in a salad, steam
them, flour and pan fry, or batter and pan fry. Good stuff.

http://img.aws.livestrongcdn.com/ls-.../513381877.jpg

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 16:18:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I've seen and grown green zucchinis and yellow (golden) ones. I've
>> never seen a crookneck. I've seen yellow "pattypans". I don't know
>> what they're called here. Squash maybe. An American invention maybe.
>> If they're available in the Netherlands, they're a new thing there.
>
>The yellow squash (aka crookneck) (pic below) are my favorite
>summer squash. Versitile too. Eat them raw in a salad, steam
>them, flour and pan fry, or batter and pan fry. Good stuff.
>
>http://img.aws.livestrongcdn.com/ls-.../513381877.jpg

I don't think I've ever seen those for sale. I don't know why. Anybody
can grow them anywhere in the right climate. How's the flavour
different from zucchini?

In article >, says...
>
> Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >
> > Gary > wrote:
> > > Pain in the ass to use though. This is why I switched to sweet
> > > potato pies. Same taste if you use the same spice mix.
> > >
> >
> > That is just not true. I can clearly taste the difference between pumpkin
> > pie and sweet potato pie, even when using the exact same recipe. Pumpkin
> > pie is one of my favorites, but I find sweet potato pie vile.
>
> Well then we agree to disagree. Both are winter squash and I
> readily switched to sweet potatoes for the same exact pies.

Sweet potatoes are not a squash. Squash is a fruit and grows above
ground, Sweet potato is a tuberous root and grows underground.

Janet UK
>
> I might grant you a slight taste difference between the two but
> to say one is a favorite and the other is "vile," is silly.
> That's only your mind's perception. Bet you've never compared
> the two side by side using same exact spices. Nope. One good and
> the other vile? Bull friggin hockey! Don't be a baby.
>
> Sorry. This is my daily pain-in-the-ass post.
> I'm always good for at least one per day.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>
> Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck
> out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these
> large, freaky, hollow, squashes.

Hate to say it but Cindy is right. You need to spend a little time off
that rock of yours

Because the season of them is relatively short, I get this in 12 can
packs off Amazon.

Here's a simple google for some of the classics:

http://foodsfor.info/2018/07/20/top-...mpkin-recipes/

I do Pumpkin breads about once a month in a variety of spice types.

I do a fair amount of Pumpkin Curry soups and here's a fair example:

https://www.everydayeasyeats.com/cur...-coconut-soup/


Also one I use:

5 Ingredient Thai Pumpkin Soup

Ingredients

€¢ 2 tablespoons red curry paste
€¢ 4 cups chicken or vegetable broth about 32 ounces
€¢ 2 15 ounce cans pumpkin puree
€¢ 1 3/4 cup coconut milk or a 13.5 ounce can, reserving 1 tablespoon
€¢ 1 large red chili pepper sliced (Anaheim or bannana for us)

I generally make 1/2 that recipe and will swap about the curry pastes
with various other powdered curry blends we have here. Works very
nicely to take to lunch for the microwave to warm or it's quite tastey
cold as well!

We aren't fond of Pumpkin Pie and tend more to Pecan at Thanksgiving
and Christmas.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> > >
> > > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> > > their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the
> > > heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with
> > > these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >
> > Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin
> > dip", maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should
> > have said "winter squash dip".
>
> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference
> which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin
> pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold
> around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during
> Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically
> for sale during those holidays.

They are here at Thanksgiving. Christmas is a bit off the main season
but I think I have seen them then.

Remember, what you see for sale in Hawaii, is not representative of the
mainland.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >
> > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat their
> > pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck out of me
> > what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >
> >
>
> Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
> everything. Its damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other, or hear
> about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, its pumpkin overload.
>
> Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldnt be pumpkin lattes and pumpkin
> flavored Oreos if they didnt. Here in middle America, at least.

I can make a pumpkin smoothie with pumpkin/squash and most people will think it tastes kinda shitty. I can make a smoothie with a banana or mashed potatoes with the correct amount of cinnamon, cloves, and ginger, and some appropriate food coloring and people will think it's a great pumpkin pie smoothie. If you think that people love pumpkins, try making a pie/lattes/Oreos with just pumpkin in it and see how much people love that.

On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:06:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> >>>>> their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck
> >>>>> out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these
> >>>>> large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
> >>>> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
> >>>> said "winter squash dip".
> >>>
> >>> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference
> >>> which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie
> >>> with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the
> >>> end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and
> >>> Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
> >>
> >> I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
> >> Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
> >> Christmas easily.
> >
> > I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going
> > to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I
> > would never try that again.
> >
> > Fresh pumpkins don't last very long - probably because we like to cut
> > holes in them for Halloween.
> >
>
> Carving pumpkins arent pie pumpkins.

That fact has been stated here a bajillion times for at least a decade. It would be rather hard to miss. You must really be jinxed.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....4/xiyg2QmWR2gJ

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 1:03:09 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> > > >
> > > > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> > > > their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the
> > > > heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with
> > > > these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> > >
> > > Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin
> > > dip", maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should
> > > have said "winter squash dip".
> >
> > Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference
> > which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin
> > pie with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold
> > around the end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during
> > Thanksgiving and Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically
> > for sale during those holidays.
>
> They are here at Thanksgiving. Christmas is a bit off the main season
> but I think I have seen them then.
>
> Remember, what you see for sale in Hawaii, is not representative of the
> mainland.

To clarify - I'm talking about those giant mutant orange squashes. I can buy various kinds of squashes and sweet potatoes anytime of the year.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> > dsi1 > wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> > >
> > > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> > > their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the
> > > heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with
> > > these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
> > everything. Its damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other,
> > or hear about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, its
> > pumpkin overload.
> >
> > Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldnt be pumpkin lattes and
> > pumpkin flavored Oreos if they didnt. Here in middle America, at
> > least.
>
> I can make a pumpkin smoothie with pumpkin/squash and most people
> will think it tastes kinda shitty. I can make a smoothie with a
> banana or mashed potatoes with the correct amount of cinnamon,
> cloves, and ginger, and some appropriate food coloring and people
> will think it's a great pumpkin pie smoothie. If you think that
> people love pumpkins, try making a pie/lattes/Oreos with just pumpkin
> in it and see how much people love that.

In other words, you do not know what to do with Pumpkin and mess up.

Got it.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> I've never seen a crookneck.
>
https://i.postimg.cc/0NmpnLYZ/Yellow...eck-Squash.jpg

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-5, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> Gary > wrote:
> >
> > Pain in the ass to use though. This is why I switched to sweet
> > potato pies. Same taste if you use the same spice mix.
> >
>
> That is just not true. I can clearly taste the difference between pumpkin
> pie and sweet potato pie, even when using the exact same recipe.
>
Me too.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:36:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I've never seen a crookneck.
>>
>https://i.postimg.cc/0NmpnLYZ/Yellow...eck-Squash.jpg

I don't think I've seen them in supermarkets. Maybe farmers markets.

dsi1 > wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> dsi1 > wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:06:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
>>>>>>> their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck
>>>>>>> out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these
>>>>>>> large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
>>>>>> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
>>>>>> said "winter squash dip".
>>>>>
>>>>> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference
>>>>> which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie
>>>>> with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the
>>>>> end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and
>>>>> Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
>>>>
>>>> I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
>>>> Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
>>>> Christmas easily.
>>>
>>> I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going
>>> to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I
>>> would never try that again.
>>>
>>> Fresh pumpkins don't last very long - probably because we like to cut
>>> holes in them for Halloween.
>>>
>>
>> Carving pumpkins arent pie pumpkins.
>
> That fact has been stated here a bajillion times for at least a decade.
> It would be rather hard to miss. You must really be jinxed.
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....4/xiyg2QmWR2gJ
>

And yet, here people are, talking about how they made a pie with a damn
jack-o-lantern pumpkin. Regardless, complaints about watery and stringy
pie pumpkin just tells me the baker didnt know what the hell he was doing
to begin with.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 8:55:27 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:36:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> I've never seen a crookneck.
> >>
> >https://i.postimg.cc/0NmpnLYZ/Yellow...eck-Squash.jpg
>
> I don't think I've seen them in supermarkets. Maybe farmers markets.
>
They're quite tasty and if you ever have the opportunity to buy them, choose
the smaller sized ones over the overgrown squash.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:37:49 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 8:55:27 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 18:36:18 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I've never seen a crookneck.
>> >>
>> >https://i.postimg.cc/0NmpnLYZ/Yellow...eck-Squash.jpg
>>
>> I don't think I've seen them in supermarkets. Maybe farmers markets.
>>
>They're quite tasty and if you ever have the opportunity to buy them, choose
>the smaller sized ones over the overgrown squash.

How does the flavour compare to zucchini?

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 9:41:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:37:49 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >> >https://i.postimg.cc/0NmpnLYZ/Yellow...eck-Squash.jpg
> >>
> >> I don't think I've seen them in supermarkets. Maybe farmers markets.
> >>
> >They're quite tasty and if you ever have the opportunity to buy them, choose
> >the smaller sized ones over the overgrown squash.
>
> How does the flavour compare to zucchini?
>
I don't care for zucchini unless it's in a bread. But fried squash, to me,
with LOTS of chopped onions and fresh ground pepper is truly a yummy vegetable.
Some folks slice it, bread it, and then fry it but I confess to have never eaten
it prepared like that.

In article >,
dsi1 > wrote:

> It's good to love something that other people don't see the beauty of - less
> competition. I'd eat some squash but don't like dealing with preparing it.

Summer squash requires a paring knife. Winter squash requires a
contractor.

leo

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:58:54 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 9:41:36 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:37:49 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >> >https://i.postimg.cc/0NmpnLYZ/Yellow...eck-Squash.jpg
>> >>
>> >> I don't think I've seen them in supermarkets. Maybe farmers markets.
>> >>
>> >They're quite tasty and if you ever have the opportunity to buy them, choose
>> >the smaller sized ones over the overgrown squash.
>>
>> How does the flavour compare to zucchini?
>>
>I don't care for zucchini unless it's in a bread. But fried squash, to me,
>with LOTS of chopped onions and fresh ground pepper is truly a yummy vegetable.
>Some folks slice it, bread it, and then fry it but I confess to have never eaten
>it prepared like that.

If I ever see crooknecks, I'll definitely try them.

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 20:59:05 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >,
>dsi1 > wrote:
>
>> It's good to love something that other people don't see the beauty of - less
>> competition. I'd eat some squash but don't like dealing with preparing it.
>
>Summer squash requires a paring knife. Winter squash requires a
>contractor.
>
>leo

My mother bore a scar above her eyebrow to attest to that. She took
the hubbard squash out to the chopping block figuring that the ax
would split the squash. Instead the ax bounced back and hit her above
the eye. I think she used a saw after that. This was back in the day
when some winter squash varieties grew huge, maybe 15 or more pounds
and were really odd shaped. They were gorgeous, bumpy things :-)
Janet US

In article >, Bruce
> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:37:49 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:

> >They're quite tasty and if you ever have the opportunity to buy them, choose
> >the smaller sized ones over the overgrown squash.
>
> How does the flavour compare to zucchini?

I make a squash casserole that I might have learned here. Think
potatoes a gratin sort of. I use crook neck and zucchini just because.

MATERIAL:
two crooknecks and two zucchini unpeeled and sliced longitudinally at
say three eights inch thick.
salt, pepper, shredded parmesan, flour, milk

EQUIPMENT: A casserole with lid at least as long as the longest
zucchini slice.

METHOD:
Press zucchini and crookneck slices in flour on a plate.
Add a layer of zucchini in bottom of casserole, splash with milk
sprinkle with more flour. Then add a bit of salt and pepper. Sprinkle
with parmesan.
Repeat the procedure with crookneck then zucchini until the casserole
is full.
Put on the lid and cook at 350F for 45 Minutes to a hour. Test with a
fork.

I really can't taste the difference between the zukes and the crook
neck. I apologize to whoever first posted the recipe. I forget. But
it's really good for a squash dish.

leo

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 22:13:56 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, Bruce
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 19:37:49 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>
>> >They're quite tasty and if you ever have the opportunity to buy them, choose
>> >the smaller sized ones over the overgrown squash.
>>
>> How does the flavour compare to zucchini?
>
>I make a squash casserole that I might have learned here. Think
>potatoes a gratin sort of. I use crook neck and zucchini just because.
>
>MATERIAL:
>two crooknecks and two zucchini unpeeled and sliced longitudinally at
>say three eights inch thick.
>salt, pepper, shredded parmesan, flour, milk
>
>EQUIPMENT: A casserole with lid at least as long as the longest
>zucchini slice.
>
>METHOD:
>Press zucchini and crookneck slices in flour on a plate.
>Add a layer of zucchini in bottom of casserole, splash with milk
>sprinkle with more flour. Then add a bit of salt and pepper. Sprinkle
>with parmesan.
>Repeat the procedure with crookneck then zucchini until the casserole
>is full.
>Put on the lid and cook at 350F for 45 Minutes to a hour. Test with a
>fork.
>
>I really can't taste the difference between the zukes and the crook
>neck. I apologize to whoever first posted the recipe. I forget. But
>it's really good for a squash dish.

Thanks, I'll keep that one for when I find crookneck, or else just
with zucchini.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:02:44 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> > > dsi1 > wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> > > >
> > > > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> > > > their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the
> > > > heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with
> > > > these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
> > > everything. Its damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other,
> > > or hear about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, its
> > > pumpkin overload.
> > >
> > > Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldnt be pumpkin lattes and
> > > pumpkin flavored Oreos if they didnt. Here in middle America, at
> > > least.
> >
> > I can make a pumpkin smoothie with pumpkin/squash and most people
> > will think it tastes kinda shitty. I can make a smoothie with a
> > banana or mashed potatoes with the correct amount of cinnamon,
> > cloves, and ginger, and some appropriate food coloring and people
> > will think it's a great pumpkin pie smoothie. If you think that
> > people love pumpkins, try making a pie/lattes/Oreos with just pumpkin
> > in it and see how much people love that.
>
> In other words, you do not know what to do with Pumpkin and mess up.
>
> Got it.

I've messed up a lot when cooking. That would probably be why I'm a better cook than most. Since I was a kid, I would cook a dish over and over again until I perfected it. That's how I learned how to cook. It is by experimentation and failures that one learns how foods react to heat, mixing, and seasoning.

My guess is that it's typical for persons of an advanced age to play it safe and stick with what they know. Let me assure you that I've never been one to be afraid of messing up.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 4:02:31 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> dsi1 > wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >> dsi1 > wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 11:06:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:35:53 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 10:06:28 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>> On Tue, 9 Apr 2019 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> >>>>>>> their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the heck
> >>>>>>> out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with these
> >>>>>>> large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Wait, there could be terminology confusion. When I said "pumpkin dip",
> >>>>>> maybe that makes Americans think of Halloween. Maybe I should have
> >>>>>> said "winter squash dip".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pumpkin or squash - it doesn't really make a whole lot of difference
> >>>>> which word you use. Oddly enough, Americans don't associate pumpkin pie
> >>>>> with Halloween, even though a shitload of pumpkins are sold around the
> >>>>> end of October. Americans eat pumpkin pie during Thanksgiving and
> >>>>> Christmas. Oddly enough, pumpkins aren't typically for sale during those holidays.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess that's because they use the canned version, as Ed says.
> >>>> Although you'd think fresh pumpkins last from late October to
> >>>> Christmas easily.
> >>>
> >>> I have made pie out of fresh pumpkins. You think how great it's all going
> >>> to be and then it turns out watery, stringy, and just plain weird. I
> >>> would never try that again.
> >>>
> >>> Fresh pumpkins don't last very long - probably because we like to cut
> >>> holes in them for Halloween.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Carving pumpkins arent pie pumpkins.
> >
> > That fact has been stated here a bajillion times for at least a decade.
> > It would be rather hard to miss. You must really be jinxed.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....4/xiyg2QmWR2gJ
> >
>
> And yet, here people are, talking about how they made a pie with a damn
> jack-o-lantern pumpkin. Regardless, complaints about watery and stringy
> pie pumpkin just tells me the baker didnt know what the hell he was doing
> to begin with.

I could indeed make a pie from a Jack-o-lantern pumpkin and it would be okay. What I did learn from my little experiment was that it's not worth the trouble to cook up a squash and process it to make a pie.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >,
> dsi1 > wrote:
>
> > It's good to love something that other people don't see the beauty of - less
> > competition. I'd eat some squash but don't like dealing with preparing it.
>
> Summer squash requires a paring knife. Winter squash requires a
> contractor.
>
> leo

Everybody here loves kabocha tempura. I'd like to make it but the skin looks so hard and foreboding in the stores that it scares me off. Oddly enough, it's eaten with the skin on and it's not tough at all.

http://jpninfo.com/wp-content/upload...ha-tempura.jpg

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 3:41:48 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 3:02:44 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 5:27:06 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> > > > dsi1 > wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, April 9, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've had very nice pumpkin dips.
> > > > >
> > > > > Most Americans won't have anything to do with pumpkins except eat
> > > > > their pumpkin pies with Cool Whip during the holidays. Beats the
> > > > > heck out of me what the rest of the world thinks/does about/with
> > > > > these large, freaky, hollow, squashes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Seriously? From September through November each year its pumpkin
> > > > everything. Its damn hard not to find pumpkin something-or-other,
> > > > or hear about pumpkin this pumpkin that. Quite frankly, its
> > > > pumpkin overload.
> > > >
> > > > Most Americans love pumpkin. There wouldnt be pumpkin lattes and
> > > > pumpkin flavored Oreos if they didnt. Here in middle America, at
> > > > least.
> > >
> > > I can make a pumpkin smoothie with pumpkin/squash and most people
> > > will think it tastes kinda shitty. I can make a smoothie with a
> > > banana or mashed potatoes with the correct amount of cinnamon,
> > > cloves, and ginger, and some appropriate food coloring and people
> > > will think it's a great pumpkin pie smoothie. If you think that
> > > people love pumpkins, try making a pie/lattes/Oreos with just pumpkin
> > > in it and see how much people love that.
> >
> > In other words, you do not know what to do with Pumpkin and mess up.
> >
> > Got it.
>
> I've messed up a lot when cooking. That would probably be why I'm a better cook than most. Since I was a kid, I would cook a dish over and over again until I perfected it. That's how I learned how to cook. It is by experimentation and failures that one learns how foods react to heat, mixing, and seasoning.
>
> My guess is that it's typical for persons of an advanced age to play it safe and stick with what they know. Let me assure you that I've never been one to be afraid of messing up.

That would be a guess, and an incorrect one. I'm always experimenting.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, April 11, 2019 at 3:55:03 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 5:59:09 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> > In article >,
> > dsi1 > wrote:
> >
> > > It's good to love something that other people don't see the beauty of - less
> > > competition. I'd eat some squash but don't like dealing with preparing it.
> >
> > Summer squash requires a paring knife. Winter squash requires a
> > contractor.
> >
> > leo
>
> Everybody here loves kabocha tempura. I'd like to make it but the skin looks so hard and foreboding in the stores that it scares me off. Oddly enough, it's eaten with the skin on and it's not tough at all.
>
> http://jpninfo.com/wp-content/upload...ha-tempura.jpg

On those rare occasions when I order tempura, there's usually some
kind of squash in it. I have no idea what variety, although your
picture of kabocha looks familiar. It's good, although when I get
a mixed veg tempura my favorite is usually the onion.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce wrote:
>
crookneck squash (yellow squash)
> How does the flavour compare to zucchini?

Different but milder and better, imo. Zucchini is more dense,
yellow squash not as much. I much prefer the yellow vs zucchini.
I predict you will like it but it depends on your use.

BTW - I've never seen it named crookneck in a store. Always known
as "yellow squash"

Bruce wrote:
>
> If I ever see crooknecks, I'll definitely try them.

Again, they are more commonly called "yellow squash." You've seen
pics now so you'll know.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> My guess is that it's typical for persons of an advanced age to play it safe and stick with what they know. Let me assure you that I've never been one to be afraid of messing up.

Dammit dsi1, there you go guessing about others again. lol.
Granted, people do tend to resist change and stick to the good
ol' things but not all.

If I find a recipe or method that I absolutely love, yes....I'll
repeat it exactly. If it ain't broke, no need to fix it.

That said, I also like experimenting with new food tastes.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On those rare occasions when I order tempura, there's usually some
> kind of squash in it. I have no idea what variety, although your
> picture of kabocha looks familiar. It's good, although when I get
> a mixed veg tempura my favorite is usually the onion.

Just for the record, tempura onion is aka "fried onion rings" yum

My all time favorite tempura veg is sweet potato.
You peel it and chop into 3/4 - 1 inch pieces...a nice one-bite
size. Then put pieces in a covered bowl, no water, and microwave
until fairly soft and done.

Once cooled a bit, dip them in a tempura batter and deep fry in
HOT oil just until they start floating and browned. They are
already cooked so you just want to brown the batter and warm up
the veg inside. That's my all-time favorite.

Whoever invented that nailed it.