My neighbor is trying to get rid of his probably series 2 or 3.
Several parts are held together with duct tape and there's a hole in
the air conditioner ($700 fix). But otherwise it's drive-able to St
Louis at 15 miles per charge. He already got a new Honda van (the
Cadillac of Honda vans) but they laughed at him when he asked about
trade in. It would coast him at least $200 to leave it there.

Since he was happy with new purchase, it afforded me the chance to
crack a bunch of jokes about his Prius (after his lead, of course).

The fact that I've never seen him charge it made me curious. These
are hybrid cars that require fossil fuels to run properly. And if
you're only using electric power, you're limited to about 15 miles
per charge, and the last 6 of those you'll be limited to 18 miles
per hour. This is highly ill advised as it actually uses more
electricity than intended and KILLS your battery in no time flat.
And if you run out of electricity? You have to have it towed to a
Toyota dealership (and not on an electric tow truck) and they
connect it to wires that lead up to roof and wait for a lightening
storm. You can't even push it when it's out of electricity. Gee,
has that ever happened to you, John? You said you ran out of
electricity once, but didn't mention the implications.

So this is way worse than I ever suspected. Imagine the planet's
tallest building, the World Headquarters of the international
conglomerate "Monumentally Stupid and Impractical, Inc". It looks
something like this:

http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/

Every couple years they hire so many more Monumentally Stupid and
Impractical employees, that they have to keep adding on floors to
this building on top of the hold ones. And sometimes when
Monumentally Stupid and Impractical departments get so big (such as
the Monumentally Stupid Architecture Department), they expand some
floors outwards to hold all those Monumentally Stupid and
Impractical people. And after 210 floors, they realize that they
drive so many Monumentally Stupid and Impractical cars neing drivenm
to work (that only have enough power to get to work, not back from
work) that they decide to build a coal-powered Monumentally Stupid
and Impractical Power Plant on the roof with transmission lines
hanging down over the side of building and into the parking garage
in the basement.

What's going to happen to that building during the next moderately
severe storm? And most importantly, who's going to pay $5,000 a
ticket to go see this Monumentally Stupid Building Event in the rain
at 10:04 A.M. on Monday November 12th, 2025 (which happens to
coincide with a free Bernie Sanders rally in the courtyard outside)?

ObFood:

A pork bulgogi mandu burger with chopped daikon kimchi and sweet and
spicy ginger marmalade.

-sw

On 4/27/2019 1:05 AM, Sqwertz wrote:

> So this is way worse than I ever suspected. Imagine the planet's
> tallest building, the World Headquarters of the international
> conglomerate "Monumentally Stupid and Impractical, Inc". It looks
> something like this:
>
> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>
> Every couple years they hire so many more Monumentally Stupid and
> Impractical employees, that they have to keep adding on floors to
> this building on top of the hold ones.
That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
that too.

On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 12:03:44 AM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> My neighbor is trying to get rid of his probably series 2 or 3.
> Several parts are held together with duct tape and there's a hole in
> the air conditioner ($700 fix). But otherwise it's drive-able to St
> Louis at 15 miles per charge. He already got a new Honda van (the
> Cadillac of Honda vans) but they laughed at him when he asked about
> trade in. It would coast him at least $200 to leave it there.
>
> Since he was happy with new purchase, it afforded me the chance to
> crack a bunch of jokes about his Prius (after his lead, of course).
>
> The fact that I've never seen him charge it made me curious. These
> are hybrid cars that require fossil fuels to run properly. And if
> you're only using electric power, you're limited to about 15 miles
> per charge, and the last 6 of those you'll be limited to 18 miles
> per hour. This is highly ill advised as it actually uses more
> electricity than intended and KILLS your battery in no time flat.
> And if you run out of electricity? You have to have it towed to a
> Toyota dealership (and not on an electric tow truck) and they
> connect it to wires that lead up to roof and wait for a lightening
> storm. You can't even push it when it's out of electricity. Gee,
> has that ever happened to you, John? You said you ran out of
> electricity once, but didn't mention the implications.
>
> So this is way worse than I ever suspected. Imagine the planet's
> tallest building, the World Headquarters of the international
> conglomerate "Monumentally Stupid and Impractical, Inc". It looks
> something like this:
>
> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>
> Every couple years they hire so many more Monumentally Stupid and
> Impractical employees, that they have to keep adding on floors to
> this building on top of the hold ones. And sometimes when
> Monumentally Stupid and Impractical departments get so big (such as
> the Monumentally Stupid Architecture Department), they expand some
> floors outwards to hold all those Monumentally Stupid and
> Impractical people. And after 210 floors, they realize that they
> drive so many Monumentally Stupid and Impractical cars neing drivenm
> to work (that only have enough power to get to work, not back from
> work) that they decide to build a coal-powered Monumentally Stupid
> and Impractical Power Plant on the roof with transmission lines
> hanging down over the side of building and into the parking garage
> in the basement.
>
> What's going to happen to that building during the next moderately
> severe storm? And most importantly, who's going to pay $5,000 a
> ticket to go see this Monumentally Stupid Building Event in the rain
> at 10:04 A.M. on Monday November 12th, 2025 (which happens to
> coincide with a free Bernie Sanders rally in the courtyard outside)?
>
> ObFood:
>
> A pork bulgogi mandu burger with chopped daikon kimchi and sweet and
> spicy ginger marmalade.
>
> -sw

People who drive hybrids are like bungee jumpers! Afraid to MAKE THE COMMITMENT!!

And yes I HAVE skydived!! If riding IN an airplane is flying then riding in a boat is swimming! You have to get OUT of your comfort zone if you really want to experience it!

And I made both jumps! I skydived AND bought and drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!

And I do NOT regret either decision!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Suburban Renewalist/Cultural Exchanger!

On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 4:55:44 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> People who drive hybrids are like bungee jumpers! Afraid to MAKE THE COMMITMENT!!
>
> And yes I HAVE skydived!! If riding IN an airplane is flying then riding in a boat is swimming! You have to get OUT of your comfort zone if you really want to experience it!
>
> And I made both jumps! I skydived AND bought and drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!
>
> And I do NOT regret either decision!
>
> John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist and Suburban Renewalist/Cultural Exchanger!

From an engineering standpoint, hybrids are monstrosities. OTOH, they were important and necessary.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....A/_QaGDjn0bw4J

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!

****.

You're still monumentally stupid and impractical <hrmpf>.

-sw

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:


> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
>straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
>that too.

I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
architectural style everywhere in the world these days
https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw

In NYC:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street

On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 4/27/2019 1:05 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> So this is way worse than I ever suspected. Imagine the planet's
>> tallest building, the World Headquarters of the international
>> conglomerate "Monumentally Stupid and Impractical, Inc". It looks
>> something like this:
>>
>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>>
>> Every couple years they hire so many more Monumentally Stupid and
>> Impractical employees, that they have to keep adding on floors to
>> this building on top of the hold ones.
> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
> that too.

There was a somewhat interesting documentary on how it was built,
structurally. But this is ina city that recently had to replace
glass windows that were falling out of 40 story buildings and
crashing to the street after 4 months, and another 35-story
residence building that had glass balcony fronts that were
shattering (and raining down) for unknown reasons.

Having been on the 24th (top) floor of a building in San Jose during
a 6.1 earthquake in the 1990's, building technology has been
improved since the 5-story (55 feet, IIRC) limit in New York (I
think that was a "concrete" limit before steel).

The building I was in was swaying at least 20 feet in each
direction. You can't so much feel it except a mild motion sickness,
but if you're also looking out the window at the city lights at
night it's truly barf-worthy. And some people did. You literally
have to look away or else you're waiting for the rest of the city to
tilt more than 3 degrees, indicating you're dead in 7 seconds or
less.

-sw

On 4/28/2019 12:40 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>
>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
>> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
>> that too.
>
> I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
> architectural style everywhere in the world these days
> https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
>
> In NYC:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street
>

Not outlawed yet but Deblasio wants to get on the Green New Deal wagon
and says they should be outlawed. Old buildings must be brought up
tonew proposed standards or be fined. Even LEEDS buildings top rated
will not qualify.

On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 9:22:46 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>
> > drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!
>
> ****.
>
> You're still monumentally stupid and impractical <hrmpf>.
>
> -sw

Better than YOUR FARTBOX!!

John Kuthe, etc.

On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 9:35:17 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/28/2019 12:40 AM, Je�us wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
> >> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
> >> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
> >> that too.
> >
> > I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
> > architectural style everywhere in the world these days
> > https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
> >
> > In NYC:
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street
> >
>
> Not outlawed yet but Deblasio wants to get on the Green New Deal wagon
> and says they should be outlawed. Old buildings must be brought up
> tonew proposed standards or be fined. Even LEEDS buildings top rated
> will not qualify.

Has anybody looked to see if the energy used in upgrading the buildings
would be offset by the energy use reduction over the life of the building?


Cindy Hamilton

On 4/28/2019 12:40 AM, Je�us wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>
>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
>> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
>> that too.
>
> I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
> architectural style everywhere in the world these days
> https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
>
> In NYC:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street
>


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bil...ss-skyscrapers

He continued: €œWere going to ban the classic glass and steel
skyscrapers, which are incredibly inefficient. If someone wants to build
one of those things they can take a whole lot of steps to make it energy
efficient, but were not going to allow what we used to see in the past.

De Blasio said private building owners will be required to slash their
emissions by 30 percent by 2030.

In the same conversation that he was touting renewable energy and
reducing emissions, de Blasio also defended his use of a gas-guzzling
SUV for his daily 11-mile trips from Gracie Mansion to his Brooklyn gym.

On 2019-04-28 9:56 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> In the same conversation that he was touting renewable energy and
> reducing emissions, de Blasio also defended his use of a gas-guzzling
> SUV for his daily 11-mile trips from Gracie Mansion to his Brooklyn gym.


That reminded me of a conversation in a gym locker room where a young
guy hassled and older fellow who said he had flown out to BC for a
wedding. The young guy whined that it was unsustainable for people to
fly that far for an event like that. The older guy said that they did
more than just the wedding. They made a vacation of it and stayed out
there for a couple weeks.

Meanwhile... the younger guy who had complained takes 15 minute showers,
takes one towel in with him and uses it for a body scrubber, grabs 2-3
more towels to dry off and then douses himself with about half a can of
spray deodorant (provided by the Y.... he would not use that much if he
was paying for it). He lives less than a mile from the Y but drives
there in a large car, even on nice days when he would ride a bike or
walk to his workout.

On 4/28/2019 9:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 9:35:17 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 4/28/2019 12:40 AM, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>>>> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
>>>> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
>>>> that too.
>>>
>>> I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
>>> architectural style everywhere in the world these days
>>> https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
>>>
>>> In NYC:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street
>>>
>>
>> Not outlawed yet but Deblasio wants to get on the Green New Deal wagon
>> and says they should be outlawed. Old buildings must be brought up
>> tonew proposed standards or be fined. Even LEEDS buildings top rated
>> will not qualify.
>
> Has anybody looked to see if the energy used in upgrading the buildings
> would be offset by the energy use reduction over the life of the building?
>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
We'll never save the world if you keep looking at sensible realities.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2019-04-28 9:56 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > In the same conversation that he was touting renewable energy and
> > reducing emissions, de Blasio also defended his use of a gas-guzzling
> > SUV for his daily 11-mile trips from Gracie Mansion to his Brooklyn gym.
>
> That reminded me of a conversation in a gym locker room where a young
> guy hassled and older fellow who said he had flown out to BC for a
> wedding. The young guy whined that it was unsustainable for people to
> fly that far for an event like that. The older guy said that they did
> more than just the wedding. They made a vacation of it and stayed out
> there for a couple weeks.
>
> Meanwhile... the younger guy who had complained takes 15 minute showers,
> takes one towel in with him and uses it for a body scrubber, grabs 2-3
> more towels to dry off and then douses himself with about half a can of
> spray deodorant (provided by the Y.... he would not use that much if he
> was paying for it). He lives less than a mile from the Y but drives
> there in a large car, even on nice days when he would ride a bike or
> walk to his workout.

yawn. Humans are the problem on earth. You do just as bad
yourself as we all do. We all want to "save the earth" but not
give up any luxuries. silly talk from even the best of us.

On 4/28/2019 4:43 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> Having been on the 24th (top) floor of a building in San Jose during
> a 6.1 earthquake in the 1990's, building technology has been
> improved since the 5-story (55 feet, IIRC) limit in New York (I
> think that was a "concrete" limit before steel).
>
> The building I was in was swaying at least 20 feet in each
> direction. You can't so much feel it except a mild motion sickness,
> but if you're also looking out the window at the city lights at
> night it's truly barf-worthy. And some people did. You literally
> have to look away or else you're waiting for the rest of the city to
> tilt more than 3 degrees, indicating you're dead in 7 seconds or
> less.
>
> -sw
>

I can only think of the Twin Towers in NYC when I think of high rise
glass and steel structures that were built to sway.

I have never been comfortable being in a "high rise" building. The
highest I ever knew was Clark Tower, in Memphis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_...his,_Tennessee)

I only once ever went above the ground floor. On the ground floor there
were bars, restaurants and shops. On the 33rd floor: the Summit Club.

"The 33rd floor of Clark Tower is now occupied by the catering firm Wade
and Company. The space is open for private events. The former Tower
Restaurant on the 33rd floor shut down in June 2010. The Tower Room was
a public restaurant. For many years, the 33rd floor was occupied by the
private Summit Club."

I was working at Prudential in the 1980's and one of our potential
clients took us all to lunch. At the Summit Club. We all thought, woo
hoo! It's a fancy private club on the top of Clark Tower. I remember
distinctly, the potatoes that came with my meal were *tater tots*. The
"woo hoo" declined rapidly from there.

Jill

On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 11:35:38 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 4/28/2019 9:40 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 9:35:17 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 4/28/2019 12:40 AM, Je�us wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
> >>>> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
> >>>> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
> >>>> that too.
> >>>
> >>> I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
> >>> architectural style everywhere in the world these days
> >>> https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
> >>>
> >>> In NYC:
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street
> >>>
> >>
> >> Not outlawed yet but Deblasio wants to get on the Green New Deal wagon
> >> and says they should be outlawed. Old buildings must be brought up
> >> tonew proposed standards or be fined. Even LEEDS buildings top rated
> >> will not qualify.
> >
> > Has anybody looked to see if the energy used in upgrading the buildings
> > would be offset by the energy use reduction over the life of the building?
> >
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> We'll never save the world if you keep looking at sensible realities.

Maybe it's different in New Yawk. Out here in flyover country, they
scarcely build anything to last. I recall a strip mall that was built
and torn down less than 10 years later, to be replaced by a new strip
mall.

Cindy Hamilton

On 4/27/2019 10:24 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!
>
> ****.
>
> You're still monumentally stupid and impractical <hrmpf>.
>
> -sw
>
Oh Steve, come on! He'll never acknowledge that it takes everything he
rails against to produce the electricity for charging his stupid car.

Jill

On 4/28/2019 11:40 AM, Gary wrote:

>
> yawn. Humans are the problem on earth. You do just as bad
> yourself as we all do. We all want to "save the earth" but not
> give up any luxuries. silly talk from even the best of us.
>

I'm guilty too. When the house was being build I had extra insulation
added and reflective material on the roof., Keeps my utility low and I
abhor waste. It offsets the fact that I have a large car with lots of
goodies.

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:40:19 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/

YET DOESN'T SAY HOW TALL IT IS.
Who needs a tall building in Austin. there are no views, and has no
skyline.... I guess one can scan for which tex mex joint has the
shortest line.

>>That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
>>straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
>>that too.
>
>I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
>architectural style everywhere in the world these days
>https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
>
>In NYC:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:56:31 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/28/2019 12:40 AM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>>> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
>>> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
>>> that too.
>>
>> I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
>> architectural style everywhere in the world these days
>> https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
>>
>> In NYC:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street
>>
>
>
>https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bil...ss-skyscrapers
>
>He continued: “We’re going to ban the classic glass and steel
>skyscrapers, which are incredibly inefficient.

That pimple brain is what's incredibly inefficient The more glass the
more energy efficient the structure... check out greenhouses and
aquariums.... any high school graduate would know that glass is an
exellent insulator for maintaining hot and cold.

>If someone wants to build
>one of those things they can take a whole lot of steps to make it energy
>efficient, but we’re not going to allow what we used to see in the past.
>
>De Blasio said private building owners will be required to slash their
>emissions by 30 percent by 2030.
>
>In the same conversation that he was touting renewable energy and
>reducing emissions, de Blasio also defended his use of a gas-guzzling
>SUV for his daily 11-mile trips from Gracie Mansion to his Brooklyn gym.

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:37:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 9:22:46 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>> > drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!
>>
>> ****.
>>
>> You're still monumentally stupid and impractical <hrmpf>.
>>
>> -sw
>
>Better than YOUR FARTBOX!!
>
>John Kuthe, etc.

If you had an IQ you'd remember that the dwarf's vehical requires
pedaling... and were you honest you'd admit that you could easily get
by with pedaling and walking.

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 11:51:21 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> On 4/28/2019 4:43 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Having been on the 24th (top) floor of a building in San Jose during
>> a 6.1 earthquake in the 1990's, building technology has been
>> improved since the 5-story (55 feet, IIRC) limit in New York (I
>> think that was a "concrete" limit before steel).
>>
>> The building I was in was swaying at least 20 feet in each
>> direction. You can't so much feel it except a mild motion sickness,
>> but if you're also looking out the window at the city lights at
>> night it's truly barf-worthy. And some people did. You literally
>> have to look away or else you're waiting for the rest of the city to
>> tilt more than 3 degrees, indicating you're dead in 7 seconds or
>> less.
>
> I can only think of the Twin Towers in NYC when I think of high rise
> glass and steel structures that were built to sway.

This one was a VERY heavy building. It was built to sway and also
was built on large concrete rollers. So the whole building would
actually shift up to 10 feet in any direction, then bend after that.
Looks like they're already planning to demolish it after only 30
years.

-sw

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:37:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 9:22:46 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>> drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!
>>
>> ****.
>>
>> You're still monumentally stupid and impractical <hrmpf>.
>
> Better than YOUR FARTBOX!!

Howe many times can you be totally oblivious to the fact that I have
never owned a car? You're just on manic high insult-brag autopilot.

If you're ever about to get back into nursing, you can be sure a
bunch of us are going to be firing off emails and phone calls to the
Missouri Board of Nursing.

-sw

On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 00:10:29 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 06:37:48 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 9:22:46 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 07:55:41 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>>> drive a 100% electric Nissan Leaf!
>>>
>>> ****.
>>>
>>> You're still monumentally stupid and impractical <hrmpf>.
>>
>> Better than YOUR FARTBOX!!
>
>Howe many times can you be totally oblivious to the fact that I have
>never owned a car? You're just on manic high insult-brag autopilot.
>
>If you're ever about to get back into nursing, you can be sure a
>bunch of us are going to be firing off emails and phone calls to the
>Missouri Board of Nursing.

Yeah, Steve, Steve and Steve.

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:35:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/28/2019 12:40 AM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Apr 2019 10:47:23 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> http://austin.culturemap.com/news/re...wntown-austin/
>>> That looks like the way they stacked pallets in the warehouse, not quite
>>> straight. Glass and steel, it will be outlawed in NYC to build like
>>> that too.
>>
>> I don't see why it would be outlawed in NYC? It's a common
>> architectural style everywhere in the world these days
>> https://tinyurl.com/rfcftw
>>
>> In NYC:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/56_Leonard_Street
>>
>
>Not outlawed yet but Deblasio wants to get on the Green New Deal wagon
>and says they should be outlawed. Old buildings must be brought up
>tonew proposed standards or be fined. Even LEEDS buildings top rated
>will not qualify.

I'll have to take your word on that, too much googling required on my
part about the Green deal and LEEDs.

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:51:34 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>Maybe it's different in New Yawk. Out here in flyover country, they
>scarcely build anything to last. I recall a strip mall that was built
>and torn down less than 10 years later, to be replaced by a new strip
>mall.

It's astonishing just how quickly concrete and steel shopping malls
disintegrate if abandoned, it only takes a few years for them to start
growing tree inside and fill with water.

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 2:37:38 AM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:51:34 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >Maybe it's different in New Yawk. Out here in flyover country, they
> >scarcely build anything to last. I recall a strip mall that was built
> >and torn down less than 10 years later, to be replaced by a new strip
> >mall.
>
> It's astonishing just how quickly concrete and steel shopping malls
> disintegrate if abandoned, it only takes a few years for them to start
> growing tree inside and fill with water.

This one wasn't abandoned. Every storefront was occupied.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 03:11:50 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 2:37:38 AM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 08:51:34 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Maybe it's different in New Yawk. Out here in flyover country, they
>> >scarcely build anything to last. I recall a strip mall that was built
>> >and torn down less than 10 years later, to be replaced by a new strip
>> >mall.
>>
>> It's astonishing just how quickly concrete and steel shopping malls
>> disintegrate if abandoned, it only takes a few years for them to start
>> growing tree inside and fill with water.
>
>This one wasn't abandoned. Every storefront was occupied.

OK