On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 08:17:26 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:26:42 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:52:31 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:34:35 +1000, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:27:44 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:16:17 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:06:15 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:34:48 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:37:11 +1000, FMurtz >
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Recent test results show that coconut oil is bad for you. It ramps up
>>>>>>>>your bad cholesterol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The American Heart Association Says Coconut Oil Is Bad for You
>>>>>>>>http://mentalfloss.com/article/50200...ut-oil-bad-you
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm agnostic on the subject of coconut oil being healthy or unhealthy.
>>>>>>>For me that means it's a non-issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BUT I sure take anything the American Heart Association with a grain
>>>>>>>of salt (only a grain, of course... because one doesn't want hardened
>>>>>>>arteries).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I agree. There are lots of Internet kooks who know better than the
>>>>>>Heart Associations of the world.
>>>>>
>>>>>I disagree, Internet kook's opinions are highly questionable.
>>>>
>>>>I agree
>>>
>>>Here's an example of incorrect and outdated advice from the USDA:
>>>https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017...te-food-groups
>>>Note the section on grains...
>>>
>>>These government authorities are often highly conservative/resistant
>>>to change and are sometimes influenced by lobby groups instead of
>>>science.
>>
>>But grains are healthy, or healthful in newspeak. Which school is
>>against them again? Paleo?
>
>I think so, amongst others. Not that I care about 'schools'. IMO
>nothing wrong with grains in moderation, but in the real world there's
>no moderation with grains. Humans aren't designed to eat grains.
>They're just a cheap source of carbs/calories.
>
>https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017...te-food-groups
>claims muffins, pasta, grits, corn tortillas, pretzels etc. as being
>healthy, which IMO are definitely not. Eat them... but don't try to
>tell me they're actually 'healthy'.

I don't know what's in those things when they're prefab. But I think
real bread, such as rye or whole meal bread, is good for us.

Gary wrote:
> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 15:03:09 +1000, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:56:10 +1000, FMurtz >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>> How's Ethel (Vivian)
>>>>
>>>> Who is Ethel (Vivian)?
>>>
>>> An aardvark?
>>
>> FMurtz knows full well what Gary is referring to.
>
> Yes he does. He picked the name although different spelling. When
> I saw his user name, "FMurtz," Fred Mertz immediately came to
> mind. I grew up with those old sitcoms.
>


I never watched those American sitcoms and had never heard of any Mertz's
My use of murtz bears no relationship with any Mertz's or murtz's
living or dead,( I must have heard it somewhere, definitely not from any
sitcom crap,) it must have tickled my fancy those many years ago.
It all came about because of the *******s.
When I was starting in computers I experimented in early chat in the
days of IRC and I joined a ******* chat room to see what *******s talked
about, within a very short time they figured out I was not a ******* and
suddenly every group including some questionable ones than I was
inquisitive about that I had visited during the last hour popped up on
the screen.
From that point on I became F Murtz (Fred was only used If the software
would not accept F as a christian name)
Every computer that I have had since has a fictitious name (murgatroid
etc or whatever I thought of at the moment)

On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 10:37:19 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?

Use a fat skimmer.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg

dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 10:37:19 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
>> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?
>
> Use a fat skimmer.
>
> https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg
>
I have one of those, use it as a very fine filter, did not try it on the
oil froth as it only appears when you dunk the chips in but goes away if
you lift the chips, this only seems to happen to any extent with coconut
oil.
When the chips are a bit cooked it does not happen.It seems it does not
tolerate moisture the same as other oils.

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:17:40 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:26:42 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:52:31 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:34:35 +1000, Bruce >
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:27:44 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:16:17 +1000, Bruce >
> >>>>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:06:15 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:34:48 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:37:11 +1000, FMurtz >
> >>>>>>>wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Recent test results show that coconut oil is bad for you. It ramps up
> >>>>>>>your bad cholesterol
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>The American Heart Association Says Coconut Oil Is Bad for You
> >>>>>>>http://mentalfloss.com/article/50200...ut-oil-bad-you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I'm agnostic on the subject of coconut oil being healthy or unhealthy.
> >>>>>>For me that means it's a non-issue.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>BUT I sure take anything the American Heart Association with a grain
> >>>>>>of salt (only a grain, of course... because one doesn't want hardened
> >>>>>>arteries).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I agree. There are lots of Internet kooks who know better than the
> >>>>>Heart Associations of the world.
> >>>>
> >>>>I disagree, Internet kook's opinions are highly questionable.
> >>>
> >>>I agree
> >>
> >>Here's an example of incorrect and outdated advice from the USDA:
> >>https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017...te-food-groups
> >>Note the section on grains...
> >>
> >>These government authorities are often highly conservative/resistant
> >>to change and are sometimes influenced by lobby groups instead of
> >>science.
> >
> >But grains are healthy, or healthful in newspeak. Which school is
> >against them again? Paleo?
>
> I think so, amongst others. Not that I care about 'schools'. IMO
> nothing wrong with grains in moderation, but in the real world there's
> no moderation with grains. Humans aren't designed to eat grains.
> They're just a cheap source of carbs/calories.
>
> https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017...te-food-groups
> claims muffins, pasta, grits, corn tortillas, pretzels etc. as being
> healthy, which IMO are definitely not. Eat them... but don't try to
> tell me they're actually 'healthy'.

Humans aren't designed. We're evolved to be omnivores.

Do you subsist on whatever you can winkle out from under a rotting
log? That's what we were "designed" to eat.

Cindy Hamilton

FMurtz wrote:
>
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 10:37:19 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> >> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?
> >
> > Use a fat skimmer.
> >
> > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg
> >
> I have one of those, use it as a very fine filter, did not try it on the
> oil froth as it only appears when you dunk the chips in but goes away if
> you lift the chips, this only seems to happen to any extent with coconut
> oil.
> When the chips are a bit cooked it does not happen.It seems it does not
> tolerate moisture the same as other oils.

A fat skimmer is good for making a clear stock or broth, or
removing some fat at the end... not for skimming froth from oil.
Your frothing problem in oil is excess moisture in cooking your
chips. Pat them drier first (first cooking of raw) and also don't
add too many at one time.

On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 2:37:19 AM UTC-6, FMurtz wrote:
> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?

Yes, don't fry chips in coconut oil...stupid policy.

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 11:48:34 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 10:37:19 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> >> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?
> >
> > Use a fat skimmer.
> >
> > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg
> >
> I have one of those, use it as a very fine filter, did not try it on the
> oil froth as it only appears when you dunk the chips in but goes away if
> you lift the chips, this only seems to happen to any extent with coconut
> oil.
> When the chips are a bit cooked it does not happen.It seems it does not
> tolerate moisture the same as other oils.

I'd use my Chinese doo-hicky thingie if there's stuff that needs skimming. It's used for frying, skimming, straining, and moving stuff around. I love my thingie but use it only with my wok. Its large size and metal construction won't work with my non-stick skillets.

https://5.imimg.com/data5/GM/OL/MY-3...er-500x500.jpg

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 11:48:34 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 10:37:19 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> >> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut
> >> oil?
> >
> > Use a fat skimmer.
> >
> > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg
> >
> I have one of those, use it as a very fine filter, did not try it on the
> oil froth as it only appears when you dunk the chips in but goes away if
> you lift the chips, this only seems to happen to any extent with coconut
> oil.
> When the chips are a bit cooked it does not happen.It seems it does not
> tolerate moisture the same as other oils.

I'd use my Chinese doo-hicky thingie if there's stuff that needs skimming.
It's used for frying, skimming, straining, and moving stuff around. I love
my thingie but use it only with my wok. Its large size and metal
construction won't work with my non-stick skillets.

https://5.imimg.com/data5/GM/OL/MY-3...er-500x500.jpg

==

I have one just like that!

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 10:21:29 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 11:48:34 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 10:37:19 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> > >> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut
> > >> oil?
> > >
> > > Use a fat skimmer.
> > >
> > > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg
> > >
> > I have one of those, use it as a very fine filter, did not try it on the
> > oil froth as it only appears when you dunk the chips in but goes away if
> > you lift the chips, this only seems to happen to any extent with coconut
> > oil.
> > When the chips are a bit cooked it does not happen.It seems it does not
> > tolerate moisture the same as other oils.
>
> I'd use my Chinese doo-hicky thingie if there's stuff that needs skimming.
> It's used for frying, skimming, straining, and moving stuff around. I love
> my thingie but use it only with my wok. Its large size and metal
> construction won't work with my non-stick skillets.
>
> https://5.imimg.com/data5/GM/OL/MY-3...er-500x500.jpg
>
> ==
>
> I have one just like that!

The Chinese make the best doo-hickies!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 10:21:29 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 11:48:34 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 10:37:19 PM UTC-10, FMurtz wrote:
> > >> are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in
> > >> coconut
> > >> oil?
> > >
> > > Use a fat skimmer.
> > >
> > > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1500_.jpg
> > >
> > I have one of those, use it as a very fine filter, did not try it on the
> > oil froth as it only appears when you dunk the chips in but goes away if
> > you lift the chips, this only seems to happen to any extent with coconut
> > oil.
> > When the chips are a bit cooked it does not happen.It seems it does not
> > tolerate moisture the same as other oils.
>
> I'd use my Chinese doo-hicky thingie if there's stuff that needs skimming.
> It's used for frying, skimming, straining, and moving stuff around. I love
> my thingie but use it only with my wok. Its large size and metal
> construction won't work with my non-stick skillets.
>
> https://5.imimg.com/data5/GM/OL/MY-3...er-500x500.jpg
>
> ==
>
> I have one just like that!

The Chinese make the best doo-hickies!

====

Heh I don't know where mine was made. I've had it for many years)

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 03:24:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 9:17:40 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 17:26:42 +1000, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:52:31 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 16:34:35 +1000, Bruce >
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:27:44 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 14:16:17 +1000, Bruce >
>> >>>>wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 11:06:15 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 09:34:48 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> >>>>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 18:37:11 +1000, FMurtz >
>> >>>>>>>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>are there any tips for excessive frothing when frying chips in coconut oil?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>Recent test results show that coconut oil is bad for you. It ramps up
>> >>>>>>>your bad cholesterol
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>The American Heart Association Says Coconut Oil Is Bad for You
>> >>>>>>>http://mentalfloss.com/article/50200...ut-oil-bad-you
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I'm agnostic on the subject of coconut oil being healthy or unhealthy.
>> >>>>>>For me that means it's a non-issue.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>BUT I sure take anything the American Heart Association with a grain
>> >>>>>>of salt (only a grain, of course... because one doesn't want hardened
>> >>>>>>arteries).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I agree. There are lots of Internet kooks who know better than the
>> >>>>>Heart Associations of the world.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I disagree, Internet kook's opinions are highly questionable.
>> >>>
>> >>>I agree
>> >>
>> >>Here's an example of incorrect and outdated advice from the USDA:
>> >>https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017...te-food-groups
>> >>Note the section on grains...
>> >>
>> >>These government authorities are often highly conservative/resistant
>> >>to change and are sometimes influenced by lobby groups instead of
>> >>science.
>> >
>> >But grains are healthy, or healthful in newspeak. Which school is
>> >against them again? Paleo?
>>
>> I think so, amongst others. Not that I care about 'schools'. IMO
>> nothing wrong with grains in moderation, but in the real world there's
>> no moderation with grains. Humans aren't designed to eat grains.
>> They're just a cheap source of carbs/calories.
>>
>> https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2017...te-food-groups
>> claims muffins, pasta, grits, corn tortillas, pretzels etc. as being
>> healthy, which IMO are definitely not. Eat them... but don't try to
>> tell me they're actually 'healthy'.
>
>Humans aren't designed. We're evolved to be omnivores.

OK, evolved. Whatever. Evolution never considered grass seed to be
part of our diet, or whatever other way you wish to describe it.

>Do you subsist on whatever you can winkle out from under a rotting
>log? That's what we were "designed" to eat.

Umm, OK...