On 5/18/2019 6:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
>>>>>>> inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
>>>>>>> numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
>>>>>>> https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
>>>>>> increase in pay after accounting for inflation
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
>>>>> bad.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The President controls wages? I did not know that.
>>>
>>> Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
>>> regime.
>>>
>> OK, Socialist would control wages
>
> Don't you think it's a little odd that executives in other countries
> can get by on something like 20 times the average wage at their
> company while U.S. executives get something like 400-500 times the
> median wage?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

It is wrong. How would you change it? Make a law?
It seems to have gotten worse starting about the 1980s when CEO
compensation was a game of one upsmanship. The board of directors has to
approve that sort of thing too. Stock holders also have a say but
choose to ignore it. Start writing to the board of directors if you own
stock in a company.

We also pay crazy sums of money to celebrities and athletes too. What
gets me, when a pitcher signs a multi-million $ contract, Joe Sixpack
will say something like "but he's worth it"

In a small way I do my part. I don't go to movies or pro sporting
events. I see no reason to support them. I did go to a hockey game
last night. Championship game between two teams of 9 to 12 year olds.
It was a damned fun game to watch, those kids are pretty good.

On 5/18/2019 9:43 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 5/17/2019 5:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:39:41 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
>>>>>>>>> inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
>>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
>>>>>>>>> numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
>>>>>>>>> https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
>>>>>>>> increase in pay after accounting for inflation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
>>>>>>> bad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The President controls wages? I did not know that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
>>>>> regime.
>>>>>
>>>> OK, Socialist would control wages
>>>
>>> Anytime someone suggests an improvement to the American system, y'all
>>> go "Aaargh, socialism!" Y'all are a funny lot and nothing will ever
>>> get better
>>>
>>
>> Not sure what you want to improve that will change wages for the average
>> person. I controlled mine by education, hard work, doing a good job.
>>
>> We are not a perfect nation, but wage and price controls have not worked
>> well anywhere.
>
> Really? In UK, Walmart supermarkets ( trading as "ASDA") are forced
> by law to pay their employees UK minimum wage and comply with other UK
> employment legislation. Consequently, Walmart employees in UK, do not
> suffer like their US counterparts.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart#Labor_relations
>
> Janet UK
>
>
>
>
>
read what I wrote. Wage AND price controls.

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 10:56:13 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/18/2019 6:15 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 5:39:43 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
> >>>>>>> inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
> >>>>>>> up.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
> >>>>>>> numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
> >>>>>>> https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
> >>>>>> increase in pay after accounting for inflation
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
> >>>>> bad.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The President controls wages? I did not know that.
> >>>
> >>> Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
> >>> regime.
> >>>
> >> OK, Socialist would control wages
> >
> > Don't you think it's a little odd that executives in other countries
> > can get by on something like 20 times the average wage at their
> > company while U.S. executives get something like 400-500 times the
> > median wage?
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
>
> It is wrong. How would you change it? Make a law?

That's a tough one. I'm not sure it can be changed.

> It seems to have gotten worse starting about the 1980s when CEO
> compensation was a game of one upsmanship.

Absolutely. At a certain point it's just a way of keeping score
against other CEOs. They should just whip them out and measure
them.

> The board of directors has to
> approve that sort of thing too.

Boards of Directors and CEOs are all scratching each others' backs.

> Stock holders also have a say but
> choose to ignore it. Start writing to the board of directors if you own
> stock in a company.

They don't want to hear from someone who owns a fraction of a share
through a mutual fund.

> We also pay crazy sums of money to celebrities and athletes too. What
> gets me, when a pitcher signs a multi-million $ contract, Joe Sixpack
> will say something like "but he's worth it"

Yep, that's just crazy, too. Some big-name star gets $20 million
and all of the people who make his paycheck possible get union
scale.

> In a small way I do my part. I don't go to movies or pro sporting
> events. I see no reason to support them. I did go to a hockey game
> last night. Championship game between two teams of 9 to 12 year olds.
> It was a damned fun game to watch, those kids are pretty good.

I very rarely go to movies. Depending on the residuals, they make
a pinch off me when I buy a DVD.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/16/2019 6:51 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> Corned beef just went on sale at the supermarket I shop for $2.99/lb. I
> bought a three pound flat. I generally eat corned beef once a year for
> St. Pat's Day. Other times, the price is generally atrocious.
> It turns out that their St. Pat's corned beef has a sell by date of
> 5/21 at this supermarket. They didn't sell it all for the big day and
> upped the price afterward until the sell by date approached. I'll have
> to remember the sell by date next year and plan accordingly.
> So I'm going to cook it today, refrigerate it and figure out what to do
> with it tomorrow. There's lots of stuff I "could do". I just haven't
> decided what yet. It won't go to waste.
>
> leo
>
Both of the nearby grocery stores sold out of corned beef brisket right
before March 17th this year.

Jill

On 5/16/2019 8:27 PM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >,
> "> wrote:
>
>> You bought just one? I'd probably have snapped another 2 and froze them for
>> a later date. Anyway, let us know how you prepare it.
>
> That would have been a good idea. Doh!
>
> leo
>
Doh! is right! When I can find it at a good price I buy at least two of
them and freeze one. Sheldon claims you can't freeze corned beef
brisket, something about the brine, but he'd be wrong about that.

Jill

On 5/16/2019 11:11 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 8:33:09 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> Most frigerated corned beef has a date stamp of 8-12 months out from
>> manufacture. The stuff here has been $3.50/lb here all year long -
>> Before and after St Patruicks day. They just keep moving it from
>> one place to another in the meat coolers.
>> -sw
>>
> I've never seen it under $3.99 per pound here. GRRRRRRRRR
>
I checked the online ads just before St. Patrick's Day. Publix,
$3.79/lb. That's 30 cents less than usual for St. Paddy's. Naturally,
they ran out of it. Food Lion's price was $3.99/lb. which is about the
norm that time of year. They ran out of it, too.

The man who was re-stocking the meat case at Publix tried to steer me
towards Boar's Head brand corned beef. It was in the produce section.
$10.99/lb. Not at that price! I love corned beef brisket and usually
buy two of them and freeze one when the price dips to $3.99/lb.

I could check and see if, for some odd reason, they got more in stock
and the price will be $3.99 or less right before the end of May...

Jill

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
> The man who was re-stocking the meat case at Publix tried to steer me
> towards Boar's Head brand corned beef. It was in the produce section.
> $10.99/lb. Not at that price!
>
> Jill
>
Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut pork chops.
:-))

On Sat, 18 May 2019 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> The man who was re-stocking the meat case at Publix tried to steer me
>> towards Boar's Head brand corned beef. It was in the produce section.
>> $10.99/lb. Not at that price!
>>
>> Jill
>>
>Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut pork chops.
>:-))

I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
since we each eat very little meat anymore.
Janet US

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 4:15:46 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2019 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> The man who was re-stocking the meat case at Publix tried to steer me
> >> towards Boar's Head brand corned beef. It was in the produce section.
> >> $10.99/lb. Not at that price!
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> >Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut pork chops.
> >:-))
>
> I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
> barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
> juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
> since we each eat very little meat anymore.
> Janet US

Us, too. They take marinade well and grill up in a snap.

We still occasionally eat thick ones, too. No need to limit ourselves.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 3:19:36 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 4:15:46 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> > I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
> > barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
> > juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
> > since we each eat very little meat anymore.
> > Janet US
>
They're really good on a biscuit for breakfast.
>
> Us, too. They take marinade well and grill up in a snap.
>
> We still occasionally eat thick ones, too. No need to limit ourselves.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
To me, the thick ones are really, really good if they're grilled. Mmmmmmm

On 5/18/2019 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>
> I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
> barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
> juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
> since we each eat very little meat anymore.
> Janet US
>

You can save a lot of money with a little work. A full boneless loin
can be had for $1.99 while the thin cut chops can be over $5. Cut them
and freeze.

On Sat, 18 May 2019 17:17:14 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 5/18/2019 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>>
>> I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
>> barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
>> juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
>> since we each eat very little meat anymore.
>> Janet US
>>
>
>You can save a lot of money with a little work. A full boneless loin
>can be had for $1.99 while the thin cut chops can be over $5. Cut them
>and freeze.

I get them at Albertsons when they are buy one get one free for
packages of 6 or so at maybe $3.99/pound.

On 5/18/2019 3:39 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> The man who was re-stocking the meat case at Publix tried to steer me
>> towards Boar's Head brand corned beef. It was in the produce section.
>> $10.99/lb. Not at that price!
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut pork chops.
> :-))
>
I would never buy it at that price.

Jill

On 5/18/2019 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2019 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> The man who was re-stocking the meat case at Publix tried to steer me
>>> towards Boar's Head brand corned beef. It was in the produce section.
>>> $10.99/lb. Not at that price!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut pork chops.
>> :-))
>
> I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
> barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
> juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
> since we each eat very little meat anymore.
> Janet US
>
I will cut pork tenderloin into boneless chops. So many ways to
prepare them and still have them come out tender and juicy.

Jill

On 2019-05-18 4:19 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 4:15:46 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:

>>> Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut pork chops.
>>> :-))
>>
>> I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
>> barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
>> juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
>> since we each eat very little meat anymore.
>> Janet US
>
> Us, too. They take marinade well and grill up in a snap.
>
> We still occasionally eat thick ones, too. No need to limit ourselves.

I usually get bone on pork chops. They are nice done on the gas grill
with just a little salt and pepper, and maybe some dried garlic.

Once in a while I will get some thin bone on chops. I mix up some salt,
pepper, garlic power, dried oregano and chopped fresh mint and rub it on
the chops an hour or two before cooking. Then I slap them on a hot grill
for about a minute per side. They turn out beautifully.

On 2019-05-18 5:35 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>
> I will cut pork tenderloin into boneless chops. Â* So many ways to
> prepare them and still have them come out tender and juicy.
>
>
Pork tenderloin is a very versatile cut.If you are cutting it into chops
I think they would be called medallions. I used to do that once in a
while and give them a good sear on each side, add some butter and then
finish them off with a sauce. I think the best I did was a apricot and
curry sauce. I chopped up dried currants, hydrated them in hot water.
then added some finely chopped onion into the butter sauteed until
tender, added some heavy cream and the apricots. I also tried them once
with a mushroom sauce.
d

On Sat, 18 May 2019 03:11:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:47:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 03:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 12:55:04 AM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:34:53 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> snip
>> >> >> >Nobody had Corned Beef on sale here for St Patricks Day. It used to
>> >> >> >be $.99/$1.29 10 for St Pats 10 years ago. I think we're (Central
>> >> >> >Texas) being punished for sucking up all the beef brisket from the
>> >> >> >U.S. other times of the year. Smoked and trimmed brisket packer
>> >> >> >brisket here comes with a 1000%-1200% markup from BBQ trailers and
>> >> >> >restaurants ($2/lb raw retail, $24/lb smoked).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >-sw
>> >> >> Back in those days you could buy a whole brisket for $.89/pound.
>> >> >> Prices just aren't what they used to be.
>> >> >> Janet US
>> >> >
>> >> >And wages are higher, too. Food costs in general are quite low,
>> >> >even if meat prices have increased a lot in the past few years.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >> wages are higher for some people
>> >
>> >Wages are higher for everybody. Not as much at the bottom end
>> >as the top, of course.
>> >
>> >Do you have an example of someone making less money for the
>> >same work now compared to 10 years ago?
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Most of the highly paid skilled trades jobs no longer exist in the
>> US... most jobs in the US are now low paid desk driving jobs - answer
>> the phone and know nothing faker jobs.
>
>Sheldon, you are completely out of touch. Most companies don't
>have anyone answering the phone; it's done by a computer.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

You're in LaLaLand... I call for customer service often and *always* a
person answers... however rarely are they competent enough to answer
my question or even understand my question. Last week I phoned Lowes
to ask about a particular storm door... "what's a storm door"... is
all I got from a young female. This morning we drove to Lowes and a
middle aged man understood perfectly and so we placed an order for two
storm doors which our carpenter will pick up in a couple of weeks and
will install them; a 36" for the front door and a 32" for the side
door. Strange thing is that Lowe's computers are still using DOS, my
wife had to show the gentleman how it works with all the F keys. He
was sending us up to the service desk but then was very grateful that
he got a mini lesson in DOS. An excellent storm door at what the
gentleman said is an axcellent price... he knew doors, not so much
about computers.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/LARSON-Vill...75-in/50374560

jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/18/2019 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 May 2019 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 1:19:21 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The man who was re-stocking the meat case at Publix tried to
>>>> steer me
>>>> towards Boar's Head brand corned beef.Â* It was in the produce
>>>> section.
>>>> $10.99/lb.Â* Not at that price!
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>> Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut
>>> pork chops.
>>> :-))
>>
>> I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan.
>> They
>> barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
>> juicy and tender.Â* Also good for sandwiches.Â* Especially good for us
>> since we each eat very little meat anymore.
>> Janet US
>>
> I will cut pork tenderloin into boneless chops. Â* So many ways to
> prepare them and still have them come out tender and juicy.
>
> Jill

Yes and the best come from Jewish delis in New York city. Popeye
turned me on to that.

On Sat, 18 May 2019 19:27:59 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/18/2019 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 18 May 2019 12:39:08 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Only if it came with a family pack of 1-inch thick center cut
>>>> pork chops.
>>>> :-))
>>>
>>> I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan.
>>> They
>>> barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
>>> juicy and tender.* Also good for sandwiches.* Especially good for us
>>> since we each eat very little meat anymore.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> I will cut pork tenderloin into boneless chops. * So many ways to
>> prepare them and still have them come out tender and juicy.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Yes and the best come from Jewish delis in New York city. Popeye
>turned me on to that.

They just have to disguise the pigs as cows before they slaughter
them, otherwise it's not kosher.

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 5:17:17 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/18/2019 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> >
> > I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
> > barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
> > juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
> > since we each eat very little meat anymore.
> > Janet US
> >
>
> You can save a lot of money with a little work. A full boneless loin
> can be had for $1.99 while the thin cut chops can be over $5. Cut them
> and freeze.

That's what I often do. When I notice pork loin is on sale I buy one,
slice it up and vac-pack it.

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 6:26:45 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Sat, 18 May 2019 03:11:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:47:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 03:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 12:55:04 AM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:34:53 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> snip
> >> >> >> >Nobody had Corned Beef on sale here for St Patricks Day. It used to
> >> >> >> >be $.99/$1.29 10 for St Pats 10 years ago. I think we're (Central
> >> >> >> >Texas) being punished for sucking up all the beef brisket from the
> >> >> >> >U.S. other times of the year. Smoked and trimmed brisket packer
> >> >> >> >brisket here comes with a 1000%-1200% markup from BBQ trailers and
> >> >> >> >restaurants ($2/lb raw retail, $24/lb smoked).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >-sw
> >> >> >> Back in those days you could buy a whole brisket for $.89/pound.
> >> >> >> Prices just aren't what they used to be.
> >> >> >> Janet US
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And wages are higher, too. Food costs in general are quite low,
> >> >> >even if meat prices have increased a lot in the past few years.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>
> >> >> wages are higher for some people
> >> >
> >> >Wages are higher for everybody. Not as much at the bottom end
> >> >as the top, of course.
> >> >
> >> >Do you have an example of someone making less money for the
> >> >same work now compared to 10 years ago?
> >> >
> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> Most of the highly paid skilled trades jobs no longer exist in the
> >> US... most jobs in the US are now low paid desk driving jobs - answer
> >> the phone and know nothing faker jobs.
> >
> >Sheldon, you are completely out of touch. Most companies don't
> >have anyone answering the phone; it's done by a computer.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> You're in LaLaLand...

Try calling a company that does not have walk-in business. No receptionist
and only an automated phone system.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 19 May 2019 03:58:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 6:26:45 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 May 2019 03:11:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:47:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 03:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 12:55:04 AM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:34:53 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> snip
>> >> >> >> >Nobody had Corned Beef on sale here for St Patricks Day. It used to
>> >> >> >> >be $.99/$1.29 10 for St Pats 10 years ago. I think we're (Central
>> >> >> >> >Texas) being punished for sucking up all the beef brisket from the
>> >> >> >> >U.S. other times of the year. Smoked and trimmed brisket packer
>> >> >> >> >brisket here comes with a 1000%-1200% markup from BBQ trailers and
>> >> >> >> >restaurants ($2/lb raw retail, $24/lb smoked).
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >-sw
>> >> >> >> Back in those days you could buy a whole brisket for $.89/pound.
>> >> >> >> Prices just aren't what they used to be.
>> >> >> >> Janet US
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >And wages are higher, too. Food costs in general are quite low,
>> >> >> >even if meat prices have increased a lot in the past few years.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >>
>> >> >> wages are higher for some people
>> >> >
>> >> >Wages are higher for everybody. Not as much at the bottom end
>> >> >as the top, of course.
>> >> >
>> >> >Do you have an example of someone making less money for the
>> >> >same work now compared to 10 years ago?
>> >> >
>> >> >Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >> Most of the highly paid skilled trades jobs no longer exist in the
>> >> US... most jobs in the US are now low paid desk driving jobs - answer
>> >> the phone and know nothing faker jobs.
>> >
>> >Sheldon, you are completely out of touch. Most companies don't
>> >have anyone answering the phone; it's done by a computer.
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> You're in LaLaLand...
>
>Try calling a company that does not have walk-in business. No receptionist
>and only an automated phone system.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I phone Amazon customer service often, always get a live person, in
fact with all the internet businesses I call (many) I always get a
live person .... as usual you don't have a clue.

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 5:17:17 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/18/2019 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> >
> > I recently tried thin cut boneless pork chops and now I am a fan. They
> > barely require cooking time in the pan and therefore they are always
> > juicy and tender. Also good for sandwiches. Especially good for us
> > since we each eat very little meat anymore.
> > Janet US
> >
>
> You can save a lot of money with a little work. A full boneless loin
> can be had for $1.99 while the thin cut chops can be over $5. Cut them
> and freeze.

That's what I often do. When I notice pork loin is on sale I buy one,
slice it up and vac-pack it.

Cindy Hamilton

===

Exactly what I do)

On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 9:32:31 AM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2019 03:58:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 6:26:45 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Sat, 18 May 2019 03:11:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 4:14:25 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:47:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 03:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 12:55:04 AM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:34:53 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> snip
> >> >> >> >> >Nobody had Corned Beef on sale here for St Patricks Day. It used to
> >> >> >> >> >be $.99/$1.29 10 for St Pats 10 years ago. I think we're (Central
> >> >> >> >> >Texas) being punished for sucking up all the beef brisket from the
> >> >> >> >> >U.S. other times of the year. Smoked and trimmed brisket packer
> >> >> >> >> >brisket here comes with a 1000%-1200% markup from BBQ trailers and
> >> >> >> >> >restaurants ($2/lb raw retail, $24/lb smoked).
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >-sw
> >> >> >> >> Back in those days you could buy a whole brisket for $.89/pound.
> >> >> >> >> Prices just aren't what they used to be.
> >> >> >> >> Janet US
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >And wages are higher, too. Food costs in general are quite low,
> >> >> >> >even if meat prices have increased a lot in the past few years.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> wages are higher for some people
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Wages are higher for everybody. Not as much at the bottom end
> >> >> >as the top, of course.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Do you have an example of someone making less money for the
> >> >> >same work now compared to 10 years ago?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>
> >> >> Most of the highly paid skilled trades jobs no longer exist in the
> >> >> US... most jobs in the US are now low paid desk driving jobs - answer
> >> >> the phone and know nothing faker jobs.
> >> >
> >> >Sheldon, you are completely out of touch. Most companies don't
> >> >have anyone answering the phone; it's done by a computer.
> >> >
> >> >Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> You're in LaLaLand...
> >
> >Try calling a company that does not have walk-in business. No receptionist
> >and only an automated phone system.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
>
> I phone Amazon customer service often, always get a live person, in
> fact with all the internet businesses I call (many) I always get a
> live person .... as usual you don't have a clue.

If you call my company or any of thousands of tech companies you'll get
a computer. If I call my electric/gas utility I get a computer. If
I call my dentist, the first thing I hear is a computer before it
sends me to a real person.

As usual, you don't have a clue.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/19/2019 9:32 AM, wrote:

>> Try calling a company that does not have walk-in business. No receptionist
>> and only an automated phone system.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> I phone Amazon customer service often, always get a live person, in
> fact with all the internet businesses I call (many) I always get a
> live person .... as usual you don't have a clue.
>

So do I, but only after a computer answers and I press 1 then press 4,
then press something else.

When we moved I had to make calls to the utilities, cable, appliance,
insurance, etc. None had a person answer the phone. Sure, I got to a
person eventually.

On 5/19/2019 10:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 5/19/2019 9:32 AM, wrote:
>
>>> Try calling a company that does not have walk-in business.Â* No
>>> receptionist
>>> and only an automated phone system.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I phone Amazon customer service often, always get a live person, in
>> fact with all the internet businesses I call (many) I always get a
>> live person .... as usual you don't have a clue.
>>
>
> So do I, but only after a computer answers and I press 1 then press 4,
> then press something else.
>
> When we moved I had to make calls to the utilities, cable, appliance,
> insurance, etc.Â* None had a person answer the phone.Â* Sure, I got to a
> person eventually.

Usually if you press 0 or, if also voice activated, repeat the word
"representative" or "agent" you'll eventually get out of the
computerized phone loop and a person will pick up. Doesn't mean they
can help you but hey, it's an actual person!

Jill

On 5/18/2019 5:50 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-05-18 5:35 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I will cut pork tenderloin into boneless chops. Â* So many ways to
>> prepare them and still have them come out tender and juicy.
>>
>>
> Pork tenderloin is a very versatile cut.If you are cutting it into chops
> I think they would be called medallions.

Call them medallions if you wish. It depends on the thickness or
thinness of the slice.

I do find pork tenderloin to be very versatile. I never buy the ones
that are pre-seasoned with anything. I see teriyaki or other
pre-seasoned cryovac'd pork tenderloins (note: I'm not talking about
whole loin). I don't buy those. I prefer to do the seasoning myself.

> I used to do that once in a
> while and give them a good sear on each side, add some butter and then
> finish them off with a sauce. I think the best I did was a apricot and
> curry sauce.Â* I chopped up dried currants, hydrated them in hot water.
> then added some finely chopped onion into the butter sauteed until
> tender, added some heavy cream and the apricots. I also tried them once
> with a mushroom sauce.

Glad it worked. I'm not a fan of fruit sauces on meat.

Jill

On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 12:26:45 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> You're in LaLaLand... I call for customer service often and *always* a
> person answers... however rarely are they competent enough to answer
> my question or even understand my question. Last week I phoned Lowes
> to ask about a particular storm door... "what's a storm door"... is
> all I got from a young female. This morning we drove to Lowes and a
> middle aged man understood perfectly and so we placed an order for two
> storm doors which our carpenter will pick up in a couple of weeks and
> will install them; a 36" for the front door and a 32" for the side
> door. Strange thing is that Lowe's computers are still using DOS, my
> wife had to show the gentleman how it works with all the F keys. He
> was sending us up to the service desk but then was very grateful that
> he got a mini lesson in DOS. An excellent storm door at what the
> gentleman said is an axcellent price... he knew doors, not so much
> about computers.
> https://www.lowes.com/pd/LARSON-Vill...75-in/50374560

I deal with companies that don't give a hoot about great customer service - they have automated phone services. Some work fine and some don't. I went to a product introduction the other day of a company that does value customer service. Their policy is you'll always get a human and they get you to who you need to talk to in less than 30 seconds. That's a wonderful thing these days.

Some companies do still have systems using DOS. Switching over to a newer OS would mean a self-inflected disaster to their business operations. Those companies are pretty much stuck with what they've got. Well, that's my guess anyway.

Jill, and others: if you are buying Hormel meat at a supermarket, know that it is injected
((usually) to make it more tender, even if it isn't one of the seasoned/marinated tenderloins.
We have one small chain (Fareway) which doesn't use Hormel pork, but our large chain does.

N.

On 5/19/2019 1:47 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> Jill, and others: if you are buying Hormel meat at a supermarket, know that it is injected
> ((usually) to make it more tender, even if it isn't one of the seasoned/marinated tenderloins.
> We have one small chain (Fareway) which doesn't use Hormel pork, but our large chain does.
>
> N.
>
I'm aware of what I'm buying. Even the store brand is injected with
saline. So sorry I can't find a local pig farmer but that's just the
way things go.

Jill

Jill, I know you were having fun, but a local butcher's shop or independent grocer or
corner grocer might have uninjected pork. Or even a small chain like our Fareway
stores are. OTOH, the Hormel injected pork doesn't bother me because the amount
of pork I buy is very minimal, and I just can't get upset about it. ;-))

On Sun, 19 May 2019 10:56:17 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 5/19/2019 9:32 AM, wrote:
>
>>> Try calling a company that does not have walk-in business. No receptionist
>>> and only an automated phone system.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I phone Amazon customer service often, always get a live person, in
>> fact with all the internet businesses I call (many) I always get a
>> live person .... as usual you don't have a clue.
>>
>
>So do I, but only after a computer answers and I press 1 then press 4,
>then press something else.
>
>When we moved I had to make calls to the utilities, cable, appliance,
>insurance, etc. None had a person answer the phone. Sure, I got to a
>person eventually.

For Amazon dial 1-888-280-3321... you'll be asked if you want to talk
now or in five minutes... for Now a real person will get on the line
within ten seconds.
I've not found any on line stores that don't have live customer
service. It's only brick and mortars that you need to leave voice
mail and MAYBE they'll get back to you,... most brick and mortars
require you fill out a form for email, an exercise in futility, they
never reply.... that's why so many brick and mortars are going
bye-bye, zero customer service.

writes:
>In article >, says...
>>
>> writes:
>> >On 5/17/2019 5:43 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> >> writes:
>> >>> On 5/17/2019 5:11 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 17:08:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On 5/17/2019 4:44 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
>> >>>>>>>> inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states
>did not keep
>> >>>>>>>> up.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
>> >>>>>>>> numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
>> >>>>>>>> https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
>> >>>>>>> increase in pay after accounting for inflation
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Meanwhile, the fat cats were getting fatter. You guys need Sanders
>> >>>>>> bad.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The President controls wages? I did not know that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sanders and others who think like him, at all levels. A change of
>> >>>> regime.
>> >>>>
>> >>> OK, Socialist would control wages
>> >>
>> >> "socialist would control wages"
>> >>
>> >> hmm... say it with a Russian accent
>> >>
>> >> I think Ed is a double agent
>> >>
>> >>
>> >We WILL control wages! ! !
>>
>> in Soviet Russia, wages control YOU!!
>
> Perhaps US Fox News hasn't told America yet, but Soviet Russia ended
>in 1991.
>
> Janet UK


you seriously never heard of the in Soviet Russia jokes?

<https://www.google.com/search?q=in+soviet+russia&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa= X&ved=0ahUKEwiDiJukuq3iAhVaFTQIHT-6C8sQ_AUIDigB&biw=1920&bih=920>

On Fri, 17 May 2019, tert in seattle wrote:

> writes:
>> On 5/17/2019 3:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 2:27:17 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:56:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 1:47:27 PM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 03:38:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 12:55:04 AM UTC-4, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:34:53 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>> Nobody had Corned Beef on sale here for St Patricks Day. It used to
>>>>>>>>> be $.99/$1.29 10 for St Pats 10 years ago. I think we're (Central
>>>>>>>>> Texas) being punished for sucking up all the beef brisket from the
>>>>>>>>> U.S. other times of the year. Smoked and trimmed brisket packer
>>>>>>>>> brisket here comes with a 1000%-1200% markup from BBQ trailers and
>>>>>>>>> restaurants ($2/lb raw retail, $24/lb smoked).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>> Back in those days you could buy a whole brisket for $.89/pound.
>>>>>>>> Prices just aren't what they used to be.
>>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And wages are higher, too. Food costs in general are quite low,
>>>>>>> even if meat prices have increased a lot in the past few years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wages are higher for some people
>>>>>
>>>>> Wages are higher for everybody. Not as much at the bottom end
>>>>> as the top, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have an example of someone making less money for the
>>>>> same work now compared to 10 years ago?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>> no. what I meant was that rising costs are out stripping the rising
>>>> costs of food for many people on the bottom portion of the wage scale.
>>>> I do not mean to start an argument about it
>>>
>>> Sound like I was basically agreeing with you. People at the bottom
>>> are suffering, but more because of factors that aren't rising food
>>> prices.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> When I graduated high school the minimum was was $1.55. Adjusted for
>> inflation, today it would be $10.41 Obviously, many states did not keep
>> up.
>>
>> If you've been in the workforce for a number of years, plug in some
>> numbers to see how well you've fared over the years.
>> https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm
>
> over the past 40 years most people working in the U.S. have seen no
> increase in pay after accounting for inflation
>
>
EXACTLU