On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:44:21 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 20:14 1 Jul 2019, jmcquown > wrote:
>
>> On 7/1/2019 2:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>
>>> ÂÂ* Yup , that's him ! Thanks Jill .
>>>
>> "I gar on tee!" LOL He was a funny old guy and the show was amusing.
>> Didn't seem to mind if he dribbled something on his plaid shirt. He did
>> wash his hands a lot, which is a good thing. He used as much wine in
>> the cooking as he drank. Always told a little anectotal story/joke
>> while showing us exactly when and what to add to the pot or the skillet.
>>
>> Jill
>
>Reminds me of chef Keith Floyd whose show was also broadcast in America.
>He too drank as much on camera as he used in his cooking.
>
>His shows were full of unscripted asides, such as talking to the cameraman
>or producer.

Towards the end Floyd lost it a bit, but for years he was fun to
watch.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:03:02 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

>Bruce > wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 06:12:24 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 02:28:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:58:43 -0300, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I get two PBS channels, one is my local and the other one is from a large
>>>>>>>>>> town 100 miles east of me. I do see where there is another 'national' PBS
>>>>>>>>>> station on DirecTV but it is not available to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All that can be streamed, I would never go back to paying for cable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, if I pay for different streaming devices. DirecTV, here, is cheaper
>>>>>>>> than cable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like a 1 off $50 for chromecasting? Doesn't get cheaper than that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use chromecasting too. The only problem is that I can't pause the
>>>>>> program with the remote. I have to walk all the way to the computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Roku and Amazon Fire Stick both put the Chromecast to shame.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what the Chromecast thingie could do more or better than
>>>> it does.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why use three devices (laptop, Chromecast, and TV) to watch a movie on TV
>>> when you can use two (Roku and TV), and not have to get up and go to go
>>> pause the program on your laptop because it doesnt have a remote? I just
>>> have to sit down, turn on the tv, and use the remote for my device, same as
>>> I would the tv remote.
>>
>> The Chromecast sits in the side of the TV but I don't have to touch it
>> or anything, so it's really only 2 devices. TV and PC.
>>
>> I don't know what a Roku is or does. Does it require a subscription?
>>
>
>It works similar to Chromecast. It plugs into the HDMI port on your tv, and
>allows you to stream from various €œchannels€� or apps, like Netflix,
>YouTube, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc. It is not a subscription service, just a
>device that lets you stream your subscription (or free) services, like
>Chromecast does. It just cuts out that laptop middleman.

But with the Chromecast I can cast anything that I play on my
computer. I don't need a subscription for Netflix etc. If I want to
watch a Netflix show, I download it to my hard disk first.

On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 08:47:34 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 16:17:59 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 06:12:24 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce > wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 02:28:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:58:43 -0300, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I get two PBS channels, one is my local and the other one is from a large
>>>>>>>>>> town 100 miles east of me. I do see where there is another 'national' PBS
>>>>>>>>>> station on DirecTV but it is not available to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All that can be streamed, I would never go back to paying for cable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, if I pay for different streaming devices. DirecTV, here, is cheaper
>>>>>>>> than cable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like a 1 off $50 for chromecasting? Doesn't get cheaper than that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use chromecasting too. The only problem is that I can't pause the
>>>>>> program with the remote. I have to walk all the way to the computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Roku and Amazon Fire Stick both put the Chromecast to shame.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know what the Chromecast thingie could do more or better than
>>>> it does.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Why use three devices (laptop, Chromecast, and TV) to watch a movie on TV
>>>when you can use two (Roku and TV), and not have to get up and go to go
>>>pause the program on your laptop because it doesnt have a remote? I just
>>>have to sit down, turn on the tv, and use the remote for my device, same as
>>>I would the tv remote.
>>
>>The Chromecast sits in the side of the TV but I don't have to touch it
>>or anything, so it's really only 2 devices. TV and PC.
>>
>>I don't know what a Roku is or does. Does it require a subscription?
>
>No, it's very similar to Chromecast but my friend who has it finds it
>has limitations (especially where live newscasts are concerned) that
>chromecast does not have.

If it removes the computer from the equation, I can't play all my
downloaded stuff via it.

On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 13:46:23 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 12:42 2 Jul 2019, wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 02:28:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Bruce > wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:58:43 -0300, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>>>> " > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I get two PBS channels, one is my local and the other one is from
>>>>>>>> a large town 100 miles east of me. I do see where there is
>>>>>>>> another 'national' PBS station on DirecTV but it is not available
>>>>>>>> to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All that can be streamed, I would never go back to paying for
>>>>>>> cable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, if I pay for different streaming devices. DirecTV, here, is
>>>>>> cheaper than cable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like a 1 off $50 for chromecasting? Doesn't get cheaper than that!
>>>>
>>>> I use chromecasting too. The only problem is that I can't pause the
>>>> program with the remote. I have to walk all the way to the computer
>>>>
>>>
>>>The Roku and Amazon Fire Stick both put the Chromecast to shame.
>>
>> I reviewed both, Roku with a friend who had it, and I actually bought
>> an Amazon Fire Stick, but in the end Chromecast won out.
>
>Chromecast may be good but the lack of a dedicated remote is a nuisance. On
>the other hand, you may agree that the Fire TV remote is simple and well
>designed.

That's true, but it's a 1st world problem. The computer is 3 metres
away and I can pause there.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:16:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/1/2019 8:02 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:58:43 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I get two PBS channels, one is my local and the other one is from a large
>>>>>> town 100 miles east of me. I do see where there is another 'national' PBS
>>>>>> station on DirecTV but it is not available to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> All that can be streamed, I would never go back to paying for cable.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, if I pay for different streaming devices. DirecTV, here, is cheaper
>>>> than cable.
>>>
>>> Like a 1 off $50 for chromecasting? Doesn't get cheaper than that!
>>
>> I use chromecasting too. The only problem is that I can't pause the
>> program with the remote. I have to walk all the way to the computer
>>
>Laptop. Its on my lap.

I tried a laptop once. It lasted less than a year. Desktop computers
all the way for me.

On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 13:47:38 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 06:38 2 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 10:56:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 18:45:38 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Can I get NatGeo, History Channel, A&E, AHC, Turner Classic Movies,
>>>> >Starz, Encore, FXMHD, BBC America, PARHD, and about 4 dozen other
>>>> >channels on it? If so, how much per month? Does it come with a DVR?
>>>>
>>>> I don't use all that stuff. If I want to see something, I get it from
>>>> the Internet and watch it on my monitor or cast it to my TV.
>>>>
>>>I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>
>> The whole idea of subscription is obsolete to me. I can't think of
>> anything that I'm missing out on because I don't have a
>> "subscription".
>
>Streaming movies, such as Netflix?

I don't have or need Netflix. I'll see those movies anyway.

On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:17:14 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 18:32 2 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 14:44:21 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 20:14 1 Jul 2019, jmcquown > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/1/2019 2:53 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ÀšÃ‚Â* Yup , that's him ! Thanks Jill .
>>>>>
>>>> "I gar on tee!" LOL He was a funny old guy and the show was amusing.
>>>> Didn't seem to mind if he dribbled something on his plaid shirt. He did
>>>> wash his hands a lot, which is a good thing. He used as much wine in
>>>> the cooking as he drank. Always told a little anectotal story/joke
>>>> while showing us exactly when and what to add to the pot or the skillet.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>>Reminds me of chef Keith Floyd whose show was also broadcast in America.
>>>He too drank as much on camera as he used in his cooking.
>>>
>>>His shows were full of unscripted asides, such as talking to the cameraman
>>>or producer.
>>
>> Towards the end Floyd lost it a bit, but for years he was fun to
>> watch.
>
>His sad death at 65 may have been caused by heavy drinking.

Yes, quite possibly.

On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 19:23:23 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 15:17 2 Jul 2019, wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 02 Jul 2019 13:46:23 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 12:42 2 Jul 2019, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 02:28:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:58:43 -0300, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>>>> " > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-5,
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT),
>>>>>>>>> " > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I get two PBS channels, one is my local and the other one is
>>>>>>>>>> from a large town 100 miles east of me. I do see where there is
>>>>>>>>>> another 'national' PBS station on DirecTV but it is not
>>>>>>>>>> available to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All that can be streamed, I would never go back to paying for
>>>>>>>>> cable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, if I pay for different streaming devices. DirecTV, here, is
>>>>>>>> cheaper than cable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like a 1 off $50 for chromecasting? Doesn't get cheaper than that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use chromecasting too. The only problem is that I can't pause the
>>>>>> program with the remote. I have to walk all the way to the computer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The Roku and Amazon Fire Stick both put the Chromecast to shame.
>>>>
>>>> I reviewed both, Roku with a friend who had it, and I actually bought
>>>> an Amazon Fire Stick, but in the end Chromecast won out.
>>>
>>>Chromecast may be good but the lack of a dedicated remote is a nuisance.
>>> On the other hand, you may agree that the Fire TV remote is simple and
>>>well designed.
>>
>> I never thought about it, my remote for the tv does everything I need
>> with chromecast so perhaps that's why I didn't notice. Perhaps it
>> varies with tv's - mine is a Samsung.
>
>My Samsung remote also controls the Fire TV stick but I much prefer the
>stick's own remote control -- few buttons for glance-free simplicity and
>connects by internal Bluetooth so there's no need to point. Elegant
>enough to be an Apple product!

Aah that must be why I didn't like it! You'd have to pay me to buy
anything Apple. I gave the Fire Stick to a newly arrived immigrant
from India, he loves it, so it found a good home.

> wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 02:28:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > wrote:
>
>> Bruce > wrote:
>>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:58:43 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I get two PBS channels, one is my local and the other one is from a large
>>>>>>> town 100 miles east of me. I do see where there is another 'national' PBS
>>>>>>> station on DirecTV but it is not available to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All that can be streamed, I would never go back to paying for cable.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, if I pay for different streaming devices. DirecTV, here, is cheaper
>>>>> than cable.
>>>>
>>>> Like a 1 off $50 for chromecasting? Doesn't get cheaper than that!
>>>
>>> I use chromecasting too. The only problem is that I can't pause the
>>> program with the remote. I have to walk all the way to the computer
>>>
>>
>> The Roku and Amazon Fire Stick both put the Chromecast to shame.
>
> I reviewed both, Roku with a friend who had it, and I actually bought
> an Amazon Fire Stick, but in the end Chromecast won out.
>

I own all three devices, actually four with 2 Rokus, and my clear
preference is for the Roku. The Fire Stick is my close second choice, but I
wont use the Chromecast anymore even if its the last device on earth.
Hate it. Clunky junk.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:54:22 AM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> > wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 02:28:37 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce > wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 01 Jul 2019 20:58:43 -0300, wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 16:05:58 -0700 (PDT), "
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT), "
> >>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I get two PBS channels, one is my local and the other one is from a large
> >>>>>>> town 100 miles east of me. I do see where there is another 'national' PBS
> >>>>>>> station on DirecTV but it is not available to me.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> All that can be streamed, I would never go back to paying for cable.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, if I pay for different streaming devices. DirecTV, here, is cheaper
> >>>>> than cable.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like a 1 off $50 for chromecasting? Doesn't get cheaper than that!
> >>>
> >>> I use chromecasting too. The only problem is that I can't pause the
> >>> program with the remote. I have to walk all the way to the computer
> >>>
> >>
> >> The Roku and Amazon Fire Stick both put the Chromecast to shame.
> >
> > I reviewed both, Roku with a friend who had it, and I actually bought
> > an Amazon Fire Stick, but in the end Chromecast won out.
> >
>
> I own all three devices, actually four with 2 Rokus, and my clear
> preference is for the Roku. The Fire Stick is my close second choice, but I
> wont use the Chromecast anymore even if its the last device on earth.
> Hate it. Clunky junk.

It might be clunky junk but when it came out, it was just great. I got a couple of them. I don't use them anymore. That's the way of technology. Tech waits for neither man nor invention.

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 10:56:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 18:45:38 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can I get NatGeo, History Channel, A&E, AHC, Turner Classic Movies, Starz,
>>>> Encore, FXMHD, BBC America, PARHD, and about 4 dozen other channels on
>>>> it? If so, how much per month? Does it come with a DVR?
>>> I don't use all that stuff. If I want to see something, I get it from
>>> the Internet and watch it on my monitor or cast it to my TV.
>>>
>> I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
> The whole idea of subscription is obsolete to me. I can't think of
> anything that I'm missing out on because I don't have a
> "subscription".

You would never know.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:00:28 -0400, Alex > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 10:56:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 18:45:38 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can I get NatGeo, History Channel, A&E, AHC, Turner Classic Movies, Starz,
>>>>> Encore, FXMHD, BBC America, PARHD, and about 4 dozen other channels on
>>>>> it? If so, how much per month? Does it come with a DVR?
>>>> I don't use all that stuff. If I want to see something, I get it from
>>>> the Internet and watch it on my monitor or cast it to my TV.
>>>>
>>> I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>> The whole idea of subscription is obsolete to me. I can't think of
>> anything that I'm missing out on because I don't have a
>> "subscription".
>
>You would never know.

Give me an example of a show I can't watch.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:06:59 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 9:47:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:45:51 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> > >
> > > That's good because all the commercial stations shill for the ****ing
> > > conservatives!
> > >
> > Really? Name me one or two so I can tune in and see what their conservative
> > agenda programming is like.
>
> Anything owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group:
>
> <http://sbgi.net/>
>
> Here's the controversy:
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group#Political_views>
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I watch none of those channels listed. I can't remember the last time I've watched a broadcast (FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc.) program. It's simply garbage what they offer. I will turn on a local station to catch the
weather forecast at 5:15 if I think they'll give a little more information
than the Weather Channel.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:35:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 18:45:38 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >Can I get NatGeo, History Channel, A&E, AHC, Turner Classic Movies, Starz,
> >Encore, FXMHD, BBC America, PARHD, and about 4 dozen other channels on
> >it? If so, how much per month? Does it come with a DVR?
>
> I think you could get them, so stations will actually charge you but I
> won't pay so I don't bother. I do pay less than $10 per month for
> Netflix and $4.99 to be a prime member of CBC which then gives you all
> their programmes, minus the ads. I have no more use for my DVR
> because you can watch all those things anytime you want so not worth
> the bother.
>
I did look at Chromecast (UGH probably spy network from the biggest spy on
the planet --- Google) and I can get DirecTV shows and premium channels like
I get now --- for the same price I am presently paying.
>
> One advantage I like is tonight there is a whole hour of Coronation St
> and I like to watch it later in the evening. So I will just zoom in
> on chromecast at the time that suits me and pick it up then, minus the
> ads.
>
Never have seen that program, so really don't know what it is.
>
> Here's a link that will likely answer your question better
>
> https://www.google.com/search?client...d&q=chromecast

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>
> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>
So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>
>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>
>So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.

You -and most people- think in terms of subscriptions and channels. I
don't use either.

Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>>
>>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>>
>> So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>> because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>
> You -and most people- think in terms of subscriptions and channels. I
> don't use either.
>

Because yoose are special.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 2:54:14 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
> >
> > The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
> > pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
> >
> So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
> because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.

You can pay for a service like HBO or Netflix or you can also stream movies using a free app. The movies are payed with commercial interruptions. A most honorable tradition. One of the best is Pluto.tv which has live streaming as well as movies on demand. It is now the golden age of streaming but I don't expect it to be that way for long. Enjoy it while it lasts.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 20:10:35 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>>>
>>>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>>>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>>>
>>> So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>>> because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>>
>> You -and most people- think in terms of subscriptions and channels. I
>> don't use either.
>>
>
>Because yoose are special.

Yes, I use the Internet.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:14:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 2:54:14 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>> >
>> > The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>> > pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>> >
>> So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>> because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>
>You can pay for a service like HBO or Netflix or you can also stream movies using a free app. The movies are payed with commercial interruptions. A most honorable tradition. One of the best is Pluto.tv which has live streaming as well as movies on demand. It is now the golden age of streaming but I don't expect it to be that way for long. Enjoy it while it lasts.

I never see "commercial interruptions". They can stick them where the
sun don't shine.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:54:22 AM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> I own all three devices, actually four with 2 Rokus, and my clear
> preference is for the Roku. The Fire Stick is my close second choice, but I
> wont use the Chromecast anymore even if its the last device on earth.
> Hate it. Clunky junk.

The Roku is the most popular streaming platform at the moment. It's probably because it comes pre-installed on a lot of TVs. Most people would rather use it than another device that uses a separate remote control or having to stick a goober on to their TV. I use it frequently. It's okay.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:39:18 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> I never see "commercial interruptions". They can stick them where the
> sun don't shine.

Well - ain't you oh so proud of yourself. Go out and have a beer to celebrate your specialness.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:39:18 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I never see "commercial interruptions". They can stick them where the
>> sun don't shine.
>
>Well - ain't you oh so proud of yourself. Go out and have a beer to celebrate your specialness.

Nah, I'm used to being special.

> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>
>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>
> So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
> because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>

Theyre not broadcasting programs directly. Its just a piece of hardware
that lets you stream your subscriptions to things like Hulu, Netflix, CBS
All Access, Amazon Prime, etc., in the same way as a TV lets you watch
cable TV. Sony and Samsung just manufacture the device (TV), but dont
provide you the programs.

dsi1 > wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 10:54:22 AM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>
>> I own all three devices, actually four with 2 Rokus, and my clear
>> preference is for the Roku. The Fire Stick is my close second choice, but I
>> wont use the Chromecast anymore even if its the last device on earth.
>> Hate it. Clunky junk.
>
> The Roku is the most popular streaming platform at the moment. It's
> probably because it comes pre-installed on a lot of TVs. Most people
> would rather use it than another device that uses a separate remote
> control or having to stick a goober on to their TV. I use it frequently. It's okay.
>

We have a TCL Roku TV as well. It works quite well, but I still prefer the
portability that comes with the HDMI device. We have a couple of smart
TVs as well, but I still use the device rather than the apps on the smart
tv. The interface is better, and so are the parental controls.

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:43:36 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:06:59 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 9:47:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> > On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:45:51 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
>> > >
>> > > That's good because all the commercial stations shill for the ****ing
>> > > conservatives!
>> > >
>> > Really? Name me one or two so I can tune in and see what their conservative
>> > agenda programming is like.
>>
>> Anything owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group:
>>
>> <http://sbgi.net/>
>>
>> Here's the controversy:
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group#Political_views>
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>I watch none of those channels listed. I can't remember the last time I've watched a broadcast (FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc.) program. It's simply garbage what they offer. I will turn on a local station to catch the
>weather forecast at 5:15 if I think they'll give a little more information
>than the Weather Channel.

they own many local television stations. Read the little print at the
end of the broadcast

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 4:37:49 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> We have a TCL Roku TV as well. It works quite well, but I still prefer the
> portability that comes with the HDMI device. We have a couple of smart
> TVs as well, but I still use the device rather than the apps on the smart
> tv. The interface is better, and so are the parental controls.

I think we have 3 Chromecast devices and 3 FireTV devices. Beat me why we have so many. I have a TCL TV too. I'm as pleased as punch with the purchase.. It was a steal at less than 300 bucks and it has a very nice picture and Roku built in. Thanks Costco!

dsi1 > wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 4:37:49 PM UTC-10, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>
>> We have a TCL Roku TV as well. It works quite well, but I still prefer the
>> portability that comes with the HDMI device. We have a couple of smart
>> TVs as well, but I still use the device rather than the apps on the smart
>> tv. The interface is better, and so are the parental controls.
>
> I think we have 3 Chromecast devices and 3 FireTV devices. Beat me why we
> have so many. I have a TCL TV too. I'm as pleased as punch with the
> purchase. It was a steal at less than 300 bucks and it has a very nice
> picture and Roku built in. Thanks Costco!
>

Costco for the win!

On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 02:30:01 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>>
>>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>>
>> So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>> because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>>
>
>Theyre not broadcasting programs directly. Its just a piece of hardware
>that lets you stream your subscriptions

Stop! No, thanks.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.

Here's one you *should* watch:
The Cove - a 2009 documentary that exposes the slaughter of more
than 20,000 dolphins and porpoises off the coast of Japan every
year.

I watched it again last night. ;-(

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:39:18 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> I never see "commercial interruptions". They can stick them where the
> >> sun don't shine.
> >
> >Well - ain't you oh so proud of yourself. Go out and have a beer to celebrate your specialness.
>
> Nah, I'm used to being special.

Ahhh. Are you the missing 3rd Princess here?

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:43:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:06:59 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 9:47:35 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > > On Monday, July 1, 2019 at 7:45:51 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's good because all the commercial stations shill for the ****ing
> > > > conservatives!
> > > >
> > > Really? Name me one or two so I can tune in and see what their conservative
> > > agenda programming is like.
> >
> > Anything owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group:
> >
> > <http://sbgi.net/>
> >
> > Here's the controversy:
> >
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group#Political_views>
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I watch none of those channels listed. I can't remember the last time I've watched a broadcast (FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, etc.) program. It's simply garbage what they offer. I will turn on a local station to catch the
> weather forecast at 5:15 if I think they'll give a little more information
> than the Weather Channel.

You don't watch them, but millions do.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 05:59:28 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
>
>Here's one you *should* watch:
>The Cove - a 2009 documentary that exposes the slaughter of more
>than 20,000 dolphins and porpoises off the coast of Japan every
>year.
>
>I watched it again last night. ;-(

I don't like to watch animal suffering. And those Japanese can go f***
themselves as far as I'm concerned.

On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 05:59:44 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:44:51 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:39:18 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I never see "commercial interruptions". They can stick them where the
>> >> sun don't shine.
>> >
>> >Well - ain't you oh so proud of yourself. Go out and have a beer to celebrate your specialness.
>>
>> Nah, I'm used to being special.
>
>Ahhh. Are you the missing 3rd Princess here?

Who be that?

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>
>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>
>So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.

I've no idea but I heard them say on the radio yesterday that they
think streaming will start to involve charges now that Disney et al
are getting into the game. I suppose it was inevitable. It was so
nice to go from nearly $200 per month to under $20 per month, couldn't
last

On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:51:47 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:35:17 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 18:45:38 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Can I get NatGeo, History Channel, A&E, AHC, Turner Classic Movies, Starz,
>> >Encore, FXMHD, BBC America, PARHD, and about 4 dozen other channels on
>> >it? If so, how much per month? Does it come with a DVR?
>>
>> I think you could get them, so stations will actually charge you but I
>> won't pay so I don't bother. I do pay less than $10 per month for
>> Netflix and $4.99 to be a prime member of CBC which then gives you all
>> their programmes, minus the ads. I have no more use for my DVR
>> because you can watch all those things anytime you want so not worth
>> the bother.
>>
>I did look at Chromecast (UGH probably spy network from the biggest spy on
>the planet --- Google) and I can get DirecTV shows and premium channels like
>I get now --- for the same price I am presently paying.
>>
>> One advantage I like is tonight there is a whole hour of Coronation St
>> and I like to watch it later in the evening. So I will just zoom in
>> on chromecast at the time that suits me and pick it up then, minus the
>> ads.
>>
>Never have seen that program, so really don't know what it is.

Longest running soap, about ordinary people not the wealthy.

https://www.google.com/search?client...onation+street

On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 02:30:01 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>>
>>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>>
>> So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>> because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>>
>
>They’re not broadcasting programs directly. It’s just a piece of hardware
>that lets you stream your subscriptions to things like Hulu, Netflix, CBS
>All Access, Amazon Prime, etc., in the same way as a TV let’s you watch
>cable TV. Sony and Samsung just manufacture the device (TV), but don’t
>provide you the programs.

When I had cable I had the 'basic package' - that contained all sorts
of sports channels I never even turned on, I was watching precisely
four of the 50 odd channels. $200 per month. When 'Pick a Channel'
came in, I phoned up thinking now I was going to get a more reasonable
bill with only four channels, the woman told me no, picking four would
actually cost me more. That's when I decided that since all my
grandchildren got along nicely without cable, I must be nuts. So I
had one of them instruct me

On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:08:40 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>>
>>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>>
>>So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>>because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>
>I've no idea but I heard them say on the radio yesterday that they
>think streaming will start to involve charges now that Disney et al
>are getting into the game. I suppose it was inevitable. It was so
>nice to go from nearly $200 per month to under $20 per month, couldn't
>last

Who wants to see Disney stuff? Mickey Mouse The Sequel? Donald Duck
Strikes Back?

On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 21:23:21 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:08:40 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
>>>>
>>>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
>>>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
>>>>
>>>So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
>>>because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
>>
>>I've no idea but I heard them say on the radio yesterday that they
>>think streaming will start to involve charges now that Disney et al
>>are getting into the game. I suppose it was inevitable. It was so
>>nice to go from nearly $200 per month to under $20 per month, couldn't
>>last
>
>Who wants to see Disney stuff? Mickey Mouse The Sequel? Donald Duck
>Strikes Back?

I believe, as I understand it, they are going to be like Netflix, but
not just Disney type stuff.

I thought about you streaming from your computer, so do I of course. I
have a very old, original Samsung tablet and it is great, and portable
for that.

On Wednesday, July 3, 2019 at 7:23:25 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Jul 2019 08:08:40 -0300, wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 17:54:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:45:07 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 21:30:40 -0700 (PDT), "
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >I just turn on DirecTV and get all my subscribed stations through it.
> >>>
> >>> The point is, you only pay to buy the chromecast once, but I think you
> >>> pay monthly for DirecTV don't you?
> >>>
> >>So, how do they make their money? They're not broadcasting all those programs
> >>because they think viewers are such nice folks and deserve to cut the cord.
> >
> >I've no idea but I heard them say on the radio yesterday that they
> >think streaming will start to involve charges now that Disney et al
> >are getting into the game. I suppose it was inevitable. It was so
> >nice to go from nearly $200 per month to under $20 per month, couldn't
> >last
>
> Who wants to see Disney stuff? Mickey Mouse The Sequel? Donald Duck
> Strikes Back?

They have a huge market for movies based on Marvel comics, the
Star Wars franchise, and everything they acquired in their recent
merger with Fox.

<https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/3/20/18273477/disney-fox-merger-deal-details-marvel-x-men>

Cindy Hamilton