On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 11:18:29 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Alex wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Bruce wrote:
>> >> >> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
>> >
>> >> >Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
>> >>
>> >> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
>> >
>> >I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
>> >quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
>>
>> If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>
>Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>on this special day. Have some respect, please.

But it's the 5th here now...

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:07:43 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >
>> > >Bruce wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Alex wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >Bruce wrote:
>> > >> >> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
>> > >
>> > >> >Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
>> > >>
>> > >> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
>> > >
>> > >I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
>> > >quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
>> >
>> > If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>>
>> Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>> now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>> on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>
>Can you elucidate how American is great again?
>
>Thanks,

I'm offended by the word "again". That implies America was ever not
great.

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 12:24:06 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-07-04 12:07 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
>>>>>
>>>>> I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
>>>>> quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
>>>>
>>>> If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>>>
>>> Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>>> now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>>> on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>>
>> Can you elucidate how American is great again?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/01/o...ype=Home page
>
>http://tiny.cc/xkb98y

Very interesting and fair I would say.

On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:36:03 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:

>graham wrote:
>
>> On 2019-07-04 12:07 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> >> Bruce wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Bruce wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Alex wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>> Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
>> >>>> quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
>> >>>
>> >>> If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>> >>
>> >> Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>> >> now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>> >> on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>> >
>> > Can you elucidate how American is great again?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/01/o...ype=Home page
>>
>> http://tiny.cc/xkb98y
>
>
>The NYT is FAKE news, graham...just so ya know...

OOOh how convenient!!

wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 11:36:03 -0700 (PDT), GM
> > wrote:
>
> >graham wrote:
> >
> >> On 2019-07-04 12:07 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> >> Bruce wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Bruce wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Alex wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Bruce wrote:
> >> >>>>>>> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>> Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
> >> >>>> quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
> >> >> now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
> >> >> on this special day. Have some respect, please.
> >> >
> >> > Can you elucidate how American is great again?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >
> >> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/01/o...ype=Home page
> >>
> >> http://tiny.cc/xkb98y
> >
> >
> >The NYT is FAKE news, graham...just so ya know...
>
> OOOh how convenient!!


Why "obfuscate" matters, Lucrezia...???

;-D


--
Best
Greg

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > >
> > > >Bruce wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Alex wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Bruce wrote:
> > > >> >> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
> > > >
> > > >> >Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
> > > >>
> > > >> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
> > > >
> > > >I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
> > > >quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
> > >
> > > If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
> >
> > Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
> > now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
> > on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>
> Can you elucidate how American is great again?
> Thanks,

That was a Trumpian political catch phrase joke, Cindy.
IMO, America has always been great. Why else do so many people
want to come here and be one of us?

I found it interesting that all liberal news boycotted Trumps 4th
ceremony. Normally when our President speaks, many channels cover
it. Not this time. This bitter anti Trump nonsense is going to
cost the Democrats the next election, imo.

Kudos to CNN for covering it though. Only other channel was Fox
News.
Funny too how after the event, CNN had all their "experts"
commenting on it and putting him down in every manner. Then on
Fox News, their "experts" cryed the exact opposite opinions. We
are all screwed here in this great land. Most of our federal tax
is being spent on partisan arguements.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:53:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> > Bruce wrote:
>> > >
>> > > If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>> >
>> > Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>> > now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>> > on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>>
>> Can you elucidate how American is great again?
>> Thanks,
>
>That was a Trumpian political catch phrase joke, Cindy.
>IMO, America has always been great. Why else do so many people
>want to come here and be one of us?

The whole western world has that problem. They all want to come to
Europe and Australia too. If I was a poor sod in a 3rd world hellhole
country, I'd also want to move to EU, US or AU.

On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 7:53:07 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > > Bruce wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Bruce wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alex wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >Bruce wrote:
> > > > >> >> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
> > > > >
> > > > >> >Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
> > > > >
> > > > >I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
> > > > >quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
> > > >
> > > > If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
> > >
> > > Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
> > > now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
> > > on this special day. Have some respect, please.
> >
> > Can you elucidate how American is great again?
> > Thanks,
>
> That was a Trumpian political catch phrase joke, Cindy.
> IMO, America has always been great. Why else do so many people
> want to come here and be one of us?
>
> I found it interesting that all liberal news boycotted Trumps 4th
> ceremony. Normally when our President speaks, many channels cover
> it. Not this time. This bitter anti Trump nonsense is going to
> cost the Democrats the next election, imo.

Did they? I never watch news, I only read it.

> Kudos to CNN for covering it though. Only other channel was Fox
> News.
> Funny too how after the event, CNN had all their "experts"
> commenting on it and putting him down in every manner. Then on
> Fox News, their "experts" cryed the exact opposite opinions. We
> are all screwed here in this great land. Most of our federal tax
> is being spent on partisan arguements.

Not so great, then.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-07-05 5:53 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
>>>>>
>>>>> I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
>>>>> quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
>>>>
>>>> If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>>>
>>> Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>>> now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>>> on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>>
>> Can you elucidate how American is great again?
>> Thanks,
>
> That was a Trumpian political catch phrase joke, Cindy.
> IMO, America has always been great. Why else do so many people
> want to come here and be one of us?
>
Hollywood!!

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:53:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> > Bruce wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 07:00:06 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >Bruce wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Alex wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> >Bruce wrote:
>> > > >> >> Give me an example of a show I can't watch.
>> > > >
>> > > >> >Deadliest Catch comes to mind.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I can download 15 seasons of it. 15-12 being the last episode I see.
>> > > >
>> > > >I loved that show when it first started but it got old very
>> > > >quickly. Too much showing off for the camera with the crews.
>> > >
>> > > If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>> >
>> > Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>> > now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>> > on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>>
>> Can you elucidate how American is great again?
>> Thanks,
>
>That was a Trumpian political catch phrase joke, Cindy.
>IMO, America has always been great. Why else do so many people
>want to come here and be one of us?
>
>I found it interesting that all liberal news boycotted Trumps 4th
>ceremony. Normally when our President speaks, many channels cover
>it. Not this time. This bitter anti Trump nonsense is going to
>cost the Democrats the next election, imo.
>
>Kudos to CNN for covering it though. Only other channel was Fox
>News.
>Funny too how after the event, CNN had all their "experts"
>commenting on it and putting him down in every manner. Then on
>Fox News, their "experts" cryed the exact opposite opinions. We
>are all screwed here in this great land. Most of our federal tax
>is being spent on partisan arguements.

I didn't watch it, figured it was a Red Square look alike and he just
needed to invite Putin.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 21:56:43 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 07:53:17 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 at 11:18:35 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> > Bruce wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > If they're Americans, I already know what you mean.
>>> >
>>> > Please Bruce. This is Independence Day. America is great again
>>> > now. At least go one day without cuts for our great again country
>>> > on this special day. Have some respect, please.
>>>
>>> Can you elucidate how American is great again?
>>> Thanks,
>>
>>That was a Trumpian political catch phrase joke, Cindy.
>>IMO, America has always been great. Why else do so many people
>>want to come here and be one of us?
>
>The whole western world has that problem. They all want to come to
>Europe and Australia too. If I was a poor sod in a 3rd world hellhole
>country, I'd also want to move to EU, US or AU.

And if you're in Syria it's been all bombed out - nothing left except
the palace in Damascus and Assad's friends dwellings.

On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> about him.
>
> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>
Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
terrifying.

S Viemeister wrote:
>
> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> > about him.
> >
> > The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> > about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
> >
> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
> terrifying.

Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
will continue to support him (but not necessarily agree with
him). If the American ppl are not happy with him, he'll get voted
out next year. No worries.

He can't really accomplish much at all as the Democrat side
constantly not only fight his wishes but is constantly trying to
jail him. LOL! Dems are shooting theirselves in the foot with all
this. He might even win again because of the sore-loser syndrome.

I reserve judging his presidency until he does leave. So far he's
been swimming upstream constantly. I personally think he is
handling the hostile countries well. He threatens but he tries to
befriend them and hold off acting on his dire warnings.

Why not blame the difficult other country leaders for this
turmoil rather than Trump. That's an anti-Trump thing by
Democrats. With them, he's damned if he does and damned if he
doesn't. Jackasses all.

It really sickens me to see a US President portrayed to the world
as such a loser by his own country. THAT'S what is embarrassing
to me. Crybaby Democrats. As I've always said, this is the United
States and we should all at least put up a united front to the
rest of the worthless world and "support your local sheriff."

In the future, it will take one very special democrat for me to
vote for any in that crybaby party ever again. Trump isn't nearly
as embarrassing as the democrat opposition is. Unbelievable times
here in the USA.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...

On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:

> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> about him.
>
> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>
Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
terrifying.

====

Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!

I don't really have a personal opinion. He is not my president

On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 9:55:16 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> --
> http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> "S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>
> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> > Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> > about him.
> >
> > The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> > about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
> >
> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
> terrifying.
>
> ====
>
> Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
> repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!
>
> I don't really have a personal opinion. He is not my president

Thank the LORD or the DEVIL or whomsoever that Trump is not OUR President or Prime Minister. I can't imagine a worse President and the Americans can have him...he is such a fool.
====

Gary wrote:

> S Viemeister wrote:
> >
> > On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> > > about him.
> > >
> > > The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> > > about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
> > >
> > Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
> > terrifying.
>
> Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
> yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
> will continue to support him (but not necessarily agree with
> him). If the American ppl are not happy with him, he'll get voted
> out next year. No worries.


As for being "not very presidential", peeps have very short memories. Clinton and Monica Lewinsky and his randy doings aided and abetted by his wife Hillary, JFK and his White House orgies (including an affair with an East German spy), LBJ crudely holding staff meetings in his bathroom whilst taking a dump and also exposing his genitals to female staffers AND cruelly pulling his poor beagle's ears in front of reporters, FDR sneaking his lover into the WH with the complicity of his daughter...

The above are liberal icons BTW...Trump has been a true gentleman during his WH tenure (so far)...

--
Best
Greg

On 2019-07-05 9:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>>> about him.
>>>
>>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>>
>> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>> terrifying.
>
> Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
> yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
> will continue to support him

How pathetic!

Roy wrote:

> On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 9:55:16 AM UTC-6, Ophelia wrote:
> > --
> > http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
> > "S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
> >
> > On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> > > about him.
> > >
> > > The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> > > about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
> > >
> > Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
> > terrifying.
> >
> > ====
> >
> > Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
> > repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!
> >
> > I don't really have a personal opinion. He is not my president
>
> Thank the LORD or the DEVIL or whomsoever that Trump is not OUR President or Prime Minister. I can't imagine a worse President and the Americans can have him...he is such a fool.
>


Now Roy, since you are suffering from "Trump Derangement Syndrome", may we offer you a sedative...or maybe a big fat martini...???

;-P

--
Best
Greg

wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >I found it interesting that all liberal news boycotted Trumps 4th
> >ceremony. Normally when our President speaks, many channels cover
> >it. Not this time. This bitter anti Trump nonsense is going to
> >cost the Democrats the next election, imo.
> >
> >Kudos to CNN for covering it though. Only other channel was Fox
> >News.
> >Funny too how after the event, CNN had all their "experts"
> >commenting on it and putting him down in every manner. Then on
> >Fox News, their "experts" cryed the exact opposite opinions. We
> >are all screwed here in this great land. Most of our federal tax
> >is being spent on partisan arguements.
>
> I didn't watch it, figured it was a Red Square look alike and he just
> needed to invite Putin.

You figured wrong. If he was trying to compete with the old
Soviet Union military parades, he failed miserably. He did a
nice speech though. Only anti-Trump folks can find fault in this
and they certainly did.

And all this sore-loser crap and investigations about Russia
interfering in the last election. Again, just sore loser Dems
stretching for anything they can. Two and a half years later and
Dems are still wailing and gnashing their loser teeth about Trump
winning. They have wasted more tax dollars just trying to get
some dirt on him to show he cheated. Unbelievable.

IMO, the democrats are the ones embarrassing our country. They're
insane with envy.

Not only that...so what if Russia tried to influence the
election. Even most americans know how so many times the USA has
influenced elections in other countries. Pot-kettle black. No big
deal. It happens all the time.

Gore cried chads in Florida. Now losing again, dems cry Russian
influence. Democrat party has lost all face, imo.

graham wrote:

> On 2019-07-05 9:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > S Viemeister wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>
> >>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> >>> about him.
> >>>
> >>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> >>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
> >>>
> >> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
> >> terrifying.
> >
> > Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
> > yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
> > will continue to support him
>
> How pathetic!


How so, graham...I bet if HRC was in the WH, Gary might prolly say the same thing...

--
Best
Greg

GM wrote:
>
> graham wrote:
>
> > On 2019-07-05 9:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > S Viemeister wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> > >>> about him.
> > >>>
> > >>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> > >>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
> > >>>
> > >> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
> > >> terrifying.
> > >
> > > Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
> > > yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
> > > will continue to support him
> >
> > How pathetic!
>
> How so, graham...I bet if HRC was in the WH, Gary might prolly say the same thing...

I would. If she had won I would back her up as long as she was in
office. Would have been a bit entertaining to have Bill as the
very first male "first lady." hahaha

On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 11:19:07 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> S Viemeister wrote:
> >
> > On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > > Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
> > > about him.
> > >
> > > The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
> > > about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
> > >
> > Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
> > terrifying.
>
> Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
> yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
> will continue to support him (but not necessarily agree with
> him). If the American ppl are not happy with him, he'll get voted
> out next year. No worries.
>
> He can't really accomplish much at all as the Democrat side
> constantly not only fight his wishes but is constantly trying to
> jail him.

For the first two years of his term, he had a completely Republican
congress and still couldn't get any of his plans effected.

> LOL! Dems are shooting theirselves in the foot with all
> this. He might even win again because of the sore-loser syndrome.
>
> I reserve judging his presidency until he does leave. So far he's
> been swimming upstream constantly. I personally think he is
> handling the hostile countries well. He threatens but he tries to
> befriend them and hold off acting on his dire warnings.
>
> Why not blame the difficult other country leaders for this
> turmoil rather than Trump. That's an anti-Trump thing by
> Democrats. With them, he's damned if he does and damned if he
> doesn't. Jackasses all.
>
> It really sickens me to see a US President portrayed to the world
> as such a loser by his own country. THAT'S what is embarrassing
> to me. Crybaby Democrats. As I've always said, this is the United
> States and we should all at least put up a united front to the
> rest of the worthless world and "support your local sheriff."
>
> In the future, it will take one very special democrat for me to
> vote for any in that crybaby party ever again. Trump isn't nearly
> as embarrassing as the democrat opposition is. Unbelievable times
> here in the USA.

I for one refuse to defend his indefensible behavior. There are not
"many good people on both sides" of the white supremacy movement.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:03:57 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, July 5, 2019 at 11:35:19 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> > Really? What is your news source? His tweets?
>> >
>> > His tariffs have crippled farmers and small manufacturers.
>> >
>> > His tax cuts have benefited mainly the rich.
>> >
>> > Any economic gains are part of a continuing trend and can't sensibly be
>> > ascribed to his policies.
>> >
>> > He calls for suppression of the free press.
>> >
>> > He does nothing about Russian interference in our electoral process.
>> >
>> > He's a divisive influence in the clash between liberals and conservatives.
>> >
>> > What benefits do your news sources lay at his feet?
>>
>>
>> All of your above points are just *opinions*, Cindy...here are some FACTS:
>
>The FACT is that the alleged Trump economic miracle is a continuation of
>the post-recession comeback. Look at a graph sometime.

Politicians always do that. When the economy's well, they take the
credit. When it's not well, it's because of everything their
predecessor did wrong.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 11:19:18 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> > Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>> > about him.
>> >
>> > The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>> > about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>> >
>> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>> terrifying.
>
>Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
>yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
>will continue to support him (but not necessarily agree with
>him). If the American ppl are not happy with him, he'll get voted
>out next year. No worries.
>
>He can't really accomplish much at all as the Democrat side
>constantly not only fight his wishes but is constantly trying to
>jail him. LOL! Dems are shooting theirselves in the foot with all
>this. He might even win again because of the sore-loser syndrome.

Which is exactly what the Republicans always do under a Democratic
president. Block everything.

Strange how Republicans were all over Clinton for his affair with an
intern. But they don't mind that Trump had affair after affair, not to
mention dealings with Russian prostitutes.

On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 10:19:36 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-07-05 9:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> S Viemeister wrote:
>>>
>>> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>>>> about him.
>>>>
>>>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>>>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>>>
>>> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>>> terrifying.
>>
>> Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
>> yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
>> will continue to support him
>
>How pathetic!

Graham is such an eloquent guy.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 12:50:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>GM wrote:
>>
>> graham wrote:
>>
>> > On 2019-07-05 9:19 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> > > S Viemeister wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>> > >>> about him.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>> > >>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>> > >>>
>> > >> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>> > >> terrifying.
>> > >
>> > > Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
>> > > yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
>> > > will continue to support him
>> >
>> > How pathetic!
>>
>> How so, graham...I bet if HRC was in the WH, Gary might prolly say the same thing...
>
>I would. If she had won I would back her up as long as she was in
>office. Would have been a bit entertaining to have Bill as the
>very first male "first lady." hahaha

Hahaha. You could never handle a female president. Hahaha. Even this
post shows that. Hahaha. It wouldn't fit into your Beavis and Butthead
world. Huh huh.

On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:50:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>
>On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>> about him.
>>
>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>
>Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>terrifying.
>
>====
>
> Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
>repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!

Not even on the BBC, for instance? Or in decent newspapers?

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:54:18 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:46:16 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:00:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know anyone who sees USA and Trump as a laughing stock. I
>>>certainly don't!
>>
>>Not the USA as a whole, but I don't know anyone, European or
>>Australian, left wing or right wing, who takes Trump seriously.
>>Everybody thinks he's a lying buffoon who finds his own ego more
>>important than his country.
>>
>>Of course this could be different in the UK or in your part thereof
>
>You're overlooking the fact she was/is a UKipper and Farage follower!

What's wrong with that? To each their own.

On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:00:47 +0100, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>> about him.
>>
>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>
>Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>terrifying.
>
I agree with you - I don't send Trump jokes on to my USian friends
because they already feel weary. I am just sad for them.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 11:19:18 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>S Viemeister wrote:
>>
>> On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> > Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>> > about him.
>> >
>> > The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>> > about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>> >
>> Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>> terrifying.
>
>Speaking as an american... Trump is not very presidential and
>yes, a bit embarrassing at times. He is the president though so I
>will continue to support him (but not necessarily agree with
>him). If the American ppl are not happy with him, he'll get voted
>out next year. No worries.
>
>He can't really accomplish much at all as the Democrat side
>constantly not only fight his wishes but is constantly trying to
>jail him. LOL! Dems are shooting theirselves in the foot with all
>this. He might even win again because of the sore-loser syndrome.
>
>I reserve judging his presidency until he does leave. So far he's
>been swimming upstream constantly. I personally think he is
>handling the hostile countries well. He threatens but he tries to
>befriend them and hold off acting on his dire warnings.

That is something none of us laugh about - he is bloody dangerous with
hostile countries, still thinks he is on some tv programme or
something.
>
>Why not blame the difficult other country leaders for this
>turmoil rather than Trump. That's an anti-Trump thing by
>Democrats. With them, he's damned if he does and damned if he
>doesn't. Jackasses all.
>
>It really sickens me to see a US President portrayed to the world
>as such a loser by his own country. THAT'S what is embarrassing
>to me. Crybaby Democrats. As I've always said, this is the United
>States and we should all at least put up a united front to the
>rest of the worthless world and "support your local sheriff."
>
>In the future, it will take one very special democrat for me to
>vote for any in that crybaby party ever again. Trump isn't nearly
>as embarrassing as the democrat opposition is. Unbelievable times
>here in the USA.

On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 04:23:39 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:54:18 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:46:16 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:00:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't know anyone who sees USA and Trump as a laughing stock. I
>>>>certainly don't!
>>>
>>>Not the USA as a whole, but I don't know anyone, European or
>>>Australian, left wing or right wing, who takes Trump seriously.
>>>Everybody thinks he's a lying buffoon who finds his own ego more
>>>important than his country.
>>>
>>>Of course this could be different in the UK or in your part thereof
>>
>>You're overlooking the fact she was/is a UKipper and Farage follower!
>
>What's wrong with that? To each their own.

All same a Trumpian -

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:45:15 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 15:00:47 +0100, S Viemeister
> wrote:
>
>>On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>>> about him.
>>>
>>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>>
>>Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>>terrifying.
>>
>I agree with you - I don't send Trump jokes on to my USian friends
>because they already feel weary. I am just sad for them.

It seems to be 50/50, as shown by the last election. That's a high
percentage of deplorables. But in Turkey, for instance, a much higher
percentage votes for fascist dictator Erdogan. So there are worse
countries.

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:53:00 -0300, wrote:

>On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 04:23:39 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:54:18 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:46:16 +1000, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:00:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I don't know anyone who sees USA and Trump as a laughing stock. I
>>>>>certainly don't!
>>>>
>>>>Not the USA as a whole, but I don't know anyone, European or
>>>>Australian, left wing or right wing, who takes Trump seriously.
>>>>Everybody thinks he's a lying buffoon who finds his own ego more
>>>>important than his country.
>>>>
>>>>Of course this could be different in the UK or in your part thereof
>>>
>>>You're overlooking the fact she was/is a UKipper and Farage follower!
>>
>>What's wrong with that? To each their own.
>
>All same a Trumpian -

I don't know much about Farage, only that he wants out of the EU. I
don't find that of the same calibre as Trump. I also liked his
speeches in the EU parliament. Whereas Trump doesn't seem to have any
sense of humour.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:50:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>
>On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>> about him.
>>
>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>
>Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>terrifying.
>
>====
>
> Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
>repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!

Not even on the BBC, for instance? Or in decent newspapers?

===

I always listen to the news and no I haven't!

Maybe in comment progs but I don't often listen/watch.

--
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:54:18 -0300, wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:46:16 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:00:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't know anyone who sees USA and Trump as a laughing stock. I
>>>certainly don't!
>>
>>Not the USA as a whole, but I don't know anyone, European or
>>Australian, left wing or right wing, who takes Trump seriously.
>>Everybody thinks he's a lying buffoon who finds his own ego more
>>important than his country.
>>
>>Of course this could be different in the UK or in your part thereof
>
>You're overlooking the fact she was/is a UKipper and Farage follower!

What's wrong with that? To each their own.

===

LOL I suspect Madam know it all, has never heard of the Brexit Party???

I know I have said this before, but I warn anyone who ever thinks of
chatting to her €¦ Never trust her. Nothing will remain confidential or
private. At the first chance she will get, she will use anything at all,
you have ever mentioned, to put you down �

In case she is too thick to know it, even though she is (apparently) hot on
their tail, The Brexit Party won the most MEPs in the Euro elections in UK
�

They are doing pretty well, after only 6 weeks, and they getting a whole
party together to stand in elections. So she can stick that in her pipe €¦
LOL

On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 21:46:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>--
>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:50:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>>"S Viemeister" wrote in message ...
>>
>>On 7/5/2019 1:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>> Of course, but *I* haven't heard anyone saying anything like that
>>> about him.
>>>
>>> The only place I have seen anything like that is here! All I hear
>>> about him is how he is helping 'the people'!
>>>
>>Most of the people I know in the US, find Trump embarrassing - and
>>terrifying.
>>
>>====
>>
>> Oh dear((( As bad as that! Well, I can only speak as I find and I
>>repeat, I haven't heard anyone here bad mouthing him!
>
>Not even on the BBC, for instance? Or in decent newspapers?
>
>===
>
> I always listen to the news and no I haven't!
>
> Maybe in comment progs but I don't often listen/watch.

I guess when you're reporting, you keep your opinion out of it. You
just try to report unbiased facts. But they should also not be
praising Trump then.

On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 22:00:11 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>--
>http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:54:18 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:46:16 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:00:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't know anyone who sees USA and Trump as a laughing stock. I
>>>>certainly don't!
>>>
>>>Not the USA as a whole, but I don't know anyone, European or
>>>Australian, left wing or right wing, who takes Trump seriously.
>>>Everybody thinks he's a lying buffoon who finds his own ego more
>>>important than his country.
>>>
>>>Of course this could be different in the UK or in your part thereof
>>
>>You're overlooking the fact she was/is a UKipper and Farage follower!
>
>What's wrong with that? To each their own.
>
>===
>
>LOL I suspect Madam know it all, has never heard of the Brexit Party???
>
>I know I have said this before, but I warn anyone who ever thinks of
>chatting to her €¦ Never trust her. Nothing will remain confidential or
>private. At the first chance she will get, she will use anything at all,
>you have ever mentioned, to put you down ?
>
>In case she is too thick to know it, even though she is (apparently) hot on
>their tail, The Brexit Party won the most MEPs in the Euro elections in UK
>?
>
>They are doing pretty well, after only 6 weeks, and they getting a whole
>party together to stand in elections. So she can stick that in her pipe €¦
>LOL

Well, I hope the whole Brexit drama will be over soon. In or out, just
get it over with. Then the euro can settle. Because I get paid in
euros

On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 05:01:13 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 15:53:00 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 06 Jul 2019 04:23:39 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 09:54:18 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 05 Jul 2019 20:46:16 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, 5 Jul 2019 11:00:35 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know anyone who sees USA and Trump as a laughing stock. I
>>>>>>certainly don't!
>>>>>
>>>>>Not the USA as a whole, but I don't know anyone, European or
>>>>>Australian, left wing or right wing, who takes Trump seriously.
>>>>>Everybody thinks he's a lying buffoon who finds his own ego more
>>>>>important than his country.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course this could be different in the UK or in your part thereof
>>>>
>>>>You're overlooking the fact she was/is a UKipper and Farage follower!
>>>
>>>What's wrong with that? To each their own.
>>
>>All same a Trumpian -
>
>I don't know much about Farage, only that he wants out of the EU. I
>don't find that of the same calibre as Trump. I also liked his
>speeches in the EU parliament. Whereas Trump doesn't seem to have any
>sense of humour.

You need to read up on him - a real con where money is concerned and
could give squat about his supporters.

In article >, Bruce
> wrote:

> The whole western world has that problem. They all want to come to
> Europe and Australia too. If I was a poor sod in a 3rd world hellhole
> country, I'd also want to move to EU, US or AU.

If we can just crush capitalism completely, emigration will cease to
exist, and we can all join the poor sods in their misery without anyone
having to move around. Helluva deal!
We all know that capitalism is evil. We're told it everyday by a
socialist media. More envy! Less greed! The hell with work! That's what
I say!

leo

In article >, Gary > wrote:

> Kudos to CNN for covering it though. Only other channel was Fox
> News.

Nah. One America News (OAN) covered it too. If one has access to OAN,
you get true world news. Man struck in face by cobra in Bangladesh type
of thing. Three native men charged in desecration of Mayan ruins type
of thing. Stuff you never, ever hear of on any other U.S. channel. But
OAN opinion does lean right. One needs their ducks in a row when they
pump socialism at Liz Wheeler on "Tipping Point".
When I tire of the major newest thing being beaten to death on Fox, I
turn to OAN.

leo