>
> Do you never enjoy just going out to a restaurant for dinner?
> I've never enjoyed actually eating in a restaurant but I do
> occasionally call up and order a meal then buy it as take out. I
> prefer eating at home....always.

Yes. I do enjoy going out for dinner. We do it fairly often. It is also
a special occasion event. My wife and I always go out for a nice dinner
on our birthdays and anniversary. In fact, it was her birthday yesterday
and I took her out to a nice local restaurant.

https://rootandbone.ca/

On Friday, July 19, 2019 at 10:47:21 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > "Gary" wrote in message ...
> >
> > Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > I would go to the local tavern or restaurant daily.
> >
> > My thoughts too. No need to cook while on vacation. Enjoy.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > That depends on how much you love to cook))
> >
> > I always do in that situation)
>
> Do you never enjoy just going out to a restaurant for dinner?
> I've never enjoyed actually eating in a restaurant but I do
> occasionally call up and order a meal then buy it as take out. I
> prefer eating at home....always.

What's your problem with restaurants?

I'd almost always rather not get take-out because it continues cooking
of its own heat during the journey and arrives overcooked. I'm thinking
principally of Chinese food.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-07-19 12:22 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 17:33 18 Jul 2019, wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:11:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> yes eggs are a great idea, although I would boil up a batch before you
>>>> set off. They can last awhile in a cool area and go great with many
>>>> things.
>>>
>>> LOL! All these blander than usual homecooked meal ideas (without
>>> many spices).
>>>
>>> It's a short vacation trip for God's sake. Eat out and let
>>> someone else cook better food for you. And do all the clean up
>>> too. Don't be such a tightwad. (not referring you Terry)
>>>
>>> Also, if you see any old diners or truck stops, definitely stop
>>> there for some of the best food you'll ever eat. Those people
>>> know good food.
>>
>> Not everyone always has the option to eat out. Also not everyone wants
>> Mcdonalds Chemo-Burger with a side order of toxi-fries with a cup of
>> carbonated sugar to wash it down. I have not been to a restaurant in
>> years and I am happy I stopped going. They are basically just a
>> gluten/cholesterol/salt/sugar service. I would rather not eat that
>> crap.
>
> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a restaurant but
> it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>
OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite valid.

On 7/19/2019 10:47 AM, Gary wrote:
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote in message ...
>>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>> I would go to the local tavern or restaurant daily.
>>
>> My thoughts too. No need to cook while on vacation. Enjoy.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> That depends on how much you love to cook))
>>
>> I always do in that situation)
>
> Do you never enjoy just going out to a restaurant for dinner?
> I've never enjoyed actually eating in a restaurant but I do
> occasionally call up and order a meal then buy it as take out. I
> prefer eating at home....always.
>
> Note: and now that I currently don't have a wife or serious
> girlfriend, I can do exactly that and whatever else I want to do
> at any time. This is fairly new to me and I'm happy.
>
> Selfish and loving it while it lasts.
>

Sounds good to me.

When we would stay a week at a time at a villa in Italy, I'd usually
make a light breakfast. Toast and eggs, boil water for tea/coffe.

Lunch would be our main meal. Ideal was a local restaurant out of the
tourist path. Many would just put a pitcher of wine on the table with
your meal.

Dinner was back at the villa. Bottle of wine, fresh bread (no need to
buy a full loaf), some cheese or local produce.

Eating out can be fun and enjoyable, but it is also time consuming and
not relaxing like at home, or camp, or wherever you are settled in.

On 2019-07-19 2:19 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 20:02 19 Jul 2019, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-07-19 12:22 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>>> On 17:33 18 Jul 2019, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:11:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes eggs are a great idea, although I would boil up a batch before
>>>>>> you set off. They can last awhile in a cool area and go great with
>>>>>> many things.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! All these blander than usual homecooked meal ideas (without
>>>>> many spices).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a short vacation trip for God's sake. Eat out and let
>>>>> someone else cook better food for you. And do all the clean up
>>>>> too. Don't be such a tightwad. (not referring you Terry)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if you see any old diners or truck stops, definitely stop
>>>>> there for some of the best food you'll ever eat. Those people
>>>>> know good food.
>>>>
>>>> Not everyone always has the option to eat out. Also not everyone wants
>>>> Mcdonalds Chemo-Burger with a side order of toxi-fries with a cup of
>>>> carbonated sugar to wash it down. I have not been to a restaurant in
>>>> years and I am happy I stopped going. They are basically just a
>>>> gluten/cholesterol/salt/sugar service. I would rather not eat that
>>>> crap.
>>>
>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a restaurant
>>> but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>
>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite valid.
>
> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>
That's pushing it, don't you think?

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 14:22:45 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-07-19 2:19 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>> On 20:02 19 Jul 2019, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-07-19 12:22 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>>>> On 17:33 18 Jul 2019, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not everyone always has the option to eat out. Also not everyone wants
>>>>> Mcdonalds Chemo-Burger with a side order of toxi-fries with a cup of
>>>>> carbonated sugar to wash it down. I have not been to a restaurant in
>>>>> years and I am happy I stopped going. They are basically just a
>>>>> gluten/cholesterol/salt/sugar service. I would rather not eat that
>>>>> crap.
>>>>
>>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a restaurant
>>>> but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>>
>>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite valid.
>>
>> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>>
>That's pushing it, don't you think?

If they had 2 plastic chairs and a table in front of the stand,
wouldn't that make it fine dining? Gary would be there every day if it
wasn't so expensive.

On 7/19/2019 4:19 PM, Pamela wrote:
> On 20:02 19 Jul 2019, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-07-19 12:22 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>>> On 17:33 18 Jul 2019, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:11:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes eggs are a great idea, although I would boil up a batch before
>>>>>> you set off. They can last awhile in a cool area and go great with
>>>>>> many things.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! All these blander than usual homecooked meal ideas (without
>>>>> many spices).
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a short vacation trip for God's sake. Eat out and let
>>>>> someone else cook better food for you. And do all the clean up
>>>>> too. Don't be such a tightwad. (not referring you Terry)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if you see any old diners or truck stops, definitely stop
>>>>> there for some of the best food you'll ever eat. Those people
>>>>> know good food.
>>>>
>>>> Not everyone always has the option to eat out. Also not everyone wants
>>>> Mcdonalds Chemo-Burger with a side order of toxi-fries with a cup of
>>>> carbonated sugar to wash it down. I have not been to a restaurant in
>>>> years and I am happy I stopped going. They are basically just a
>>>> gluten/cholesterol/salt/sugar service. I would rather not eat that
>>>> crap.
>>>
>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a restaurant
>>> but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>
>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite valid.
>
> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>

Not really. No seating

noun
a place where people pay to sit and eat meals that are cooked and served
on the premises.
synonyms: eating place, eating house; informaleatery

In article >, Terry Coombs
> wrote:

> * Careful Bwoose , your jealousy is showing . And I don't need any
> tapes , got all my music on a laptop that's going along for the ride . I
> also have the adapter cord to hook it to the built-in sound system .

I assume you have "Born to be Wild" by Steppenwolf, a black iron
skillet, a boiling pot and a large homemade lasagna, portioned and
preferably vacuum sealed for the small RV freezer. With just that, a
fishing pole, and some canola oil, you'll be all set.
You can do this!

leo

In article >, Terry Coombs
> wrote:

> * The camper has a built-in fridge/freezer unit , runs on either 110V
> AC or propane . It's running on gas right now , as a test to make sure
> all is OK . Been running on 'lectric for several days with no problems .
> Hey , we even have a shower ! It's all of 2 feet square , but it'll do
> the job . We lived in this thing for a couple of years up here , until
> we had enough money to build the first phase of the house . When we
> first bought it , we parked it up here so we'd have a place to stay any
> time we wanted . It also went to where my wife was teaching for 2 years
> while gas prices were so high . She'd come home on weekends , sometimes
> I'd surprise her midweek ...

Make damned sure that your tires are in good shape all the way around,
inflated properly and the lug nuts are properly tightened. And make
sure the spare is in good shape as well. Your trailer sounds like mine
was but four feet longer. If she ain't moved much in years, I'm giving
good advice. But you knew all this.

leo

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 23:34:58 -0700, Leonard Blaisdell
> wrote:

>In article >, Terry Coombs
> wrote:
>
>> Â* Careful Bwoose , your jealousy is showing . And I don't need any
>> tapes , got all my music on a laptop that's going along for the ride . I
>> also have the adapter cord to hook it to the built-in sound system .
>
>I assume you have "Born to be Wild" by Steppenwolf, a black iron
>skillet, a boiling pot and a large homemade lasagna, portioned and
>preferably vacuum sealed for the small RV freezer. With just that, a
>fishing pole, and some canola oil, you'll be all set.
>You can do this!

You forgot the American flags!

Pamela wrote:
>
> Whatever McDonalds might claim I can't consider a solo hamburger, which is
> all most here people buy from them, to be a meal.

Heck, McDonalds does NOT consider a solo burger a meal.
They want you to buy much more than that!

Speaking of that... sometime around 1990, they had original
hamburgers on sale for only 25 cents each. I was buying them 40
at a time. (they freeze well). 40 hamburgers only $10 + tax. Now
*THAT* was a meal. I got a glimpse of what Heaven will be like
that month.

>
> Maybe people in the U.K. are more inclined to eat a burger (and buy not
> much else) on the street than in the U.S.
>
> I set the bar higher for what a restaurant is.

Many different kinds of restaurants. Each serves a need or
preference. All of the franchised ones have enough steady
customers to survive and prosper. Really no need to criticize
any specific one. If you don't like it, just don't eat there. No
worries...something for everyone.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 06:50:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Pamela wrote:
>>
>> Whatever McDonalds might claim I can't consider a solo hamburger, which is
>> all most here people buy from them, to be a meal.
>
>Heck, McDonalds does NOT consider a solo burger a meal.
>They want you to buy much more than that!
>
>Speaking of that... sometime around 1990, they had original
>hamburgers on sale for only 25 cents each. I was buying them 40
>at a time. (they freeze well). 40 hamburgers only $10 + tax. Now
>*THAT* was a meal. I got a glimpse of what Heaven will be like
>that month.

Those were the days of fine dining for Gary, RFC's very own tightwad

On 7/20/2019 1:50 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article >, Terry Coombs
> > wrote:
>
>> Â* The camper has a built-in fridge/freezer unit , runs on either 110V
>> AC or propane . It's running on gas right now , as a test to make sure
>> all is OK . Been running on 'lectric for several days with no problems .
>> Hey , we even have a shower ! It's all of 2 feet square , but it'll do
>> the job . We lived in this thing for a couple of years up here , until
>> we had enough money to build the first phase of the house . When we
>> first bought it , we parked it up here so we'd have a place to stay any
>> time we wanted . It also went to where my wife was teaching for 2 years
>> while gas prices were so high . She'd come home on weekends , sometimes
>> I'd surprise her midweek ...
> Make damned sure that your tires are in good shape all the way around,
> inflated properly and the lug nuts are properly tightened. And make
> sure the spare is in good shape as well. Your trailer sounds like mine
> was but four feet longer. If she ain't moved much in years, I'm giving
> good advice. But you knew all this.
>
> leo
Â* It's got brand new rubber all 'round and the spare's never touched
the ground ... we replaced the tires last summer before I realized how
much damage was done by water leaks in the rear part of the roof . I had
to build a shelter for it so it could dry out enough to repair , which
delayed me getting it back on the road . Repairs aren't all finished but
it's roadworthy now . I'm probably going to be that slow guy that
everybody passes ... ain't any rush to get there .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On 2019-07-20 3:28 a.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 21:22 19 Jul 2019, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-07-19 2:19 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>>> On 20:02 19 Jul 2019, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-07-19 12:22 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>>>>> On 17:33 18 Jul 2019, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:11:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes eggs are a great idea, although I would boil up a batch before
>>>>>>>> you set off. They can last awhile in a cool area and go great with
>>>>>>>> many things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL! All these blander than usual homecooked meal ideas (without
>>>>>>> many spices).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a short vacation trip for God's sake. Eat out and let someone
>>>>>>> else cook better food for you. And do all the clean up too. Don't
>>>>>>> be such a tightwad. (not referring you Terry)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, if you see any old diners or truck stops, definitely stop
>>>>>>> there for some of the best food you'll ever eat. Those people
>>>>>>> know good food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not everyone always has the option to eat out. Also not everyone
>>>>>> wants Mcdonalds Chemo-Burger with a side order of toxi-fries with a
>>>>>> cup of carbonated sugar to wash it down. I have not been to a
>>>>>> restaurant in years and I am happy I stopped going. They are
>>>>>> basically just a gluten/cholesterol/salt/sugar service. I would
>>>>>> rather not eat that crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a
>>>>> restaurant but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite
>>>> valid.
>>>
>>> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>>
>> That's pushing it, don't you think?
>
> No fast food outlet, including those two, is what we would call a
> restaurant. My usage differs from yours.
>
Well the original restaurants would now be called soup kitchens.

On 7/20/2019 5:48 AM, Pamela wrote:
> On 04:37 20 Jul 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 7/19/2019 4:19 PM, Pamela wrote:
>>> On 20:02 19 Jul 2019, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-07-19 12:22 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>>>>> On 17:33 18 Jul 2019, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 09:11:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes eggs are a great idea, although I would boil up a batch before
>>>>>>>> you set off. They can last awhile in a cool area and go great with
>>>>>>>> many things.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL! All these blander than usual homecooked meal ideas (without
>>>>>>> many spices).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a short vacation trip for God's sake. Eat out and let someone
>>>>>>> else cook better food for you. And do all the clean up too. Don't
>>>>>>> be such a tightwad. (not referring you Terry)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, if you see any old diners or truck stops, definitely stop
>>>>>>> there for some of the best food you'll ever eat. Those people
>>>>>>> know good food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not everyone always has the option to eat out. Also not everyone
>>>>>> wants Mcdonalds Chemo-Burger with a side order of toxi-fries with a
>>>>>> cup of carbonated sugar to wash it down. I have not been to a
>>>>>> restaurant in years and I am happy I stopped going. They are
>>>>>> basically just a gluten/cholesterol/salt/sugar service. I would
>>>>>> rather not eat that crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a
>>>>> restaurant but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>>>
>>>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite
>>>> valid.
>>>
>>> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>>>
>>
>> Not really. No seating
>>
>> noun a place where people pay to sit and eat meals that are cooked and
>> served on the premises. synonyms: eating place, eating house;
>> informal eatery
>
> Whatever McDonalds might claim I can't consider a solo hamburger, which is
> all most here people buy from them, to be a meal.
>
> Maybe people in the U.K. are more inclined to eat a burger (and buy not
> much else) on the street than in the U.S.
>
> I set the bar higher for what a restaurant is.
>

Burger or chicken sandwich, fries, salad, either pie or soft serve ice
cream for dessert. Not a fancy meal, but it makes a meal.

On 7/20/2019 1:28 PM, Pamela wrote:

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a
>>>>>>> restaurant but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite
>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>
>>>>> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not really. No seating
>>>>
>>>> noun a place where people pay to sit and eat meals that are cooked and
>>>> served on the premises. synonyms: eating place, eating house;
>>>> informal eatery
>>>
>>> Whatever McDonalds might claim I can't consider a solo hamburger, which
>>> is all most here people buy from them, to be a meal.
>>>
>>> Maybe people in the U.K. are more inclined to eat a burger (and buy not
>>> much else) on the street than in the U.S.
>>>
>>> I set the bar higher for what a restaurant is.
>>
>> Burger or chicken sandwich, fries, salad, either pie or soft serve ice
>> cream for dessert. Not a fancy meal, but it makes a meal.
>
> More like a cafe. Or a takeaway
>
> I remember reading statistics on restaurant per head of population in
> different countries. America came out high because it called every fast
> food emporium a restaurant.
>
> However if I buy a panino at a bar in Rome or a croque monsieur from a
> bakery in Paris, they are not restaurants to me, even if I can sit at a
> small table and drink mineral water or coffee with it.
>
> On the other hand, if I sit at a table and get waitress service with a
> menu I can hold for several courses and where the emphasis is on "food"
> rather than "fast" then that might be closer to a restaurant.
>
> I am not saying either usage is wrong but that they are different. It's a
> bit like the different usage of the word entrée.
>

Restaurant covers a large group. Yes, you can call it a takeaway
restaurant of a fast food restaurant. Family restaurant, fine dining
restaurant. Many types and many cross overs, but still fit restaurant.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:59:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/20/2019 1:28 PM, Pamela wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a
>>>>>>>> restaurant but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite
>>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really. No seating
>>>>>
>>>>> noun a place where people pay to sit and eat meals that are cooked and
>>>>> served on the premises. synonyms: eating place, eating house;
>>>>> informal eatery
>>>>
>>>> Whatever McDonalds might claim I can't consider a solo hamburger, which
>>>> is all most here people buy from them, to be a meal.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe people in the U.K. are more inclined to eat a burger (and buy not
>>>> much else) on the street than in the U.S.
>>>>
>>>> I set the bar higher for what a restaurant is.
>>>
>>> Burger or chicken sandwich, fries, salad, either pie or soft serve ice
>>> cream for dessert. Not a fancy meal, but it makes a meal.
>>
>> More like a cafe. Or a takeaway
>>
>> I remember reading statistics on restaurant per head of population in
>> different countries. America came out high because it called every fast
>> food emporium a restaurant.
>>
>> However if I buy a panino at a bar in Rome or a croque monsieur from a
>> bakery in Paris, they are not restaurants to me, even if I can sit at a
>> small table and drink mineral water or coffee with it.
>>
>> On the other hand, if I sit at a table and get waitress service with a
>> menu I can hold for several courses and where the emphasis is on "food"
>> rather than "fast" then that might be closer to a restaurant.
>>
>> I am not saying either usage is wrong but that they are different. It's a
>> bit like the different usage of the word entrée.
>>
>
>Restaurant covers a large group. Yes, you can call it a takeaway
>restaurant of a fast food restaurant. Family restaurant, fine dining
>restaurant. Many types and many cross overs, but still fit restaurant.

A fast food place is only a restaurant in the US. They have different
standards. As in no standards.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:59:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 7/20/2019 1:28 PM, Pamela wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a
>>>>>>>>> restaurant but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite
>>>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not really. No seating
>>>>>>
>>>>>> noun a place where people pay to sit and eat meals that are cooked and
>>>>>> served on the premises. synonyms: eating place, eating house;
>>>>>> informal eatery
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever McDonalds might claim I can't consider a solo hamburger, which
>>>>> is all most here people buy from them, to be a meal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe people in the U.K. are more inclined to eat a burger (and buy not
>>>>> much else) on the street than in the U.S.
>>>>>
>>>>> I set the bar higher for what a restaurant is.
>>>>
>>>> Burger or chicken sandwich, fries, salad, either pie or soft serve ice
>>>> cream for dessert. Not a fancy meal, but it makes a meal.
>>>
>>> More like a cafe. Or a takeaway
>>>
>>> I remember reading statistics on restaurant per head of population in
>>> different countries. America came out high because it called every fast
>>> food emporium a restaurant.
>>>
>>> However if I buy a panino at a bar in Rome or a croque monsieur from a
>>> bakery in Paris, they are not restaurants to me, even if I can sit at a
>>> small table and drink mineral water or coffee with it.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, if I sit at a table and get waitress service with a
>>> menu I can hold for several courses and where the emphasis is on "food"
>>> rather than "fast" then that might be closer to a restaurant.
>>>
>>> I am not saying either usage is wrong but that they are different. It's a
>>> bit like the different usage of the word entrée.
>>>
>>
>> Restaurant covers a large group. Yes, you can call it a takeaway
>> restaurant of a fast food restaurant. Family restaurant, fine dining
>> restaurant. Many types and many cross overs, but still fit restaurant.
>
> A fast food place is only a restaurant in the US. They have different
> standards. As in no standards.
>

Yes, and in yoose special place, all eating joints are the finest in
the galaxy. When yoose order, the queen comes out and curtsies, and
asks if yoose want a blow job with yoose chips.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:59:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/20/2019 1:28 PM, Pamela wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've never understood how a McDonalds can really be called a
>>>>>>>> restaurant but it seems to be a common term in the U.S.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OTOH, if you take the origin of the word, the McDo usage is quite
>>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By that reckoning, a hot dog stand could be called a restaurant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really. No seating
>>>>>
>>>>> noun a place where people pay to sit and eat meals that are cooked and
>>>>> served on the premises. synonyms: eating place, eating house;
>>>>> informal eatery
>>>>
>>>> Whatever McDonalds might claim I can't consider a solo hamburger, which
>>>> is all most here people buy from them, to be a meal.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe people in the U.K. are more inclined to eat a burger (and buy not
>>>> much else) on the street than in the U.S.
>>>>
>>>> I set the bar higher for what a restaurant is.
>>>
>>> Burger or chicken sandwich, fries, salad, either pie or soft serve ice
>>> cream for dessert. Not a fancy meal, but it makes a meal.
>>
>> More like a cafe. Or a takeaway
>>
>> I remember reading statistics on restaurant per head of population in
>> different countries. America came out high because it called every fast
>> food emporium a restaurant.
>>
>> However if I buy a panino at a bar in Rome or a croque monsieur from a
>> bakery in Paris, they are not restaurants to me, even if I can sit at a
>> small table and drink mineral water or coffee with it.
>>
>> On the other hand, if I sit at a table and get waitress service with a
>> menu I can hold for several courses and where the emphasis is on "food"
>> rather than "fast" then that might be closer to a restaurant.
>>
>> I am not saying either usage is wrong but that they are different. It's a
>> bit like the different usage of the word entrée.
>>
>
>Restaurant covers a large group. Yes, you can call it a takeaway
>restaurant of a fast food restaurant. Family restaurant, fine dining
>restaurant. Many types and many cross overs, but still fit restaurant.


Fast food joints most closely resemble vending machines.. they're
closely aligned to an automat but their food is not nearly as good....
there's no table service so to me it's not a restaurant,
Those know nothing teenaged punks keep pushing for a $15 wage and
they'll be out on the street peddling their ass and that's not worth
$15 either. It's very simple to replace those loudmouths with
robotics. Burger flipper requires far less skill than street sweeper.
Fast food joints are already 98% automated... all else that's required
is a conveyer belt and a slot for your debit card.
At the VA Hospital in the Bronx one can buy a very good hot meal from
vending machines, franks n' beans, chili, stews, hot sandwiches, even
burgers.

wrote:
> It's very simple to replace those loudmouths with
> robotics. Burger flipper requires far less skill than street sweeper.


And yet we can't even replace yoose Loudmouth sorry homosexual ass.

Jabbering the same old shit, day in, day out.

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 18:16:32 -0400, wrote:

snip
>Fast food joints most closely resemble vending machines.. they're
>closely aligned to an automat but their food is not nearly as good....
>there's no table service so to me it's not a restaurant,
>Those know nothing teenaged punks keep pushing for a $15 wage and
>they'll be out on the street peddling their ass and that's not worth
>$15 either. It's very simple to replace those loudmouths with
>robotics. Burger flipper requires far less skill than street sweeper.
>Fast food joints are already 98% automated... all else that's required
>is a conveyer belt and a slot for your debit card.
>At the VA Hospital in the Bronx one can buy a very good hot meal from
>vending machines, franks n' beans, chili, stews, hot sandwiches, even
>burgers.

Call ahead and you can join tRump on stage.

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 00:24:29 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 22:00 20 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:59:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>
>>>Restaurant covers a large group. Yes, you can call it a takeaway
>>>restaurant of a fast food restaurant. Family restaurant, fine dining
>>>restaurant. Many types and many cross overs, but still fit restaurant.
>>
>> A fast food place is only a restaurant in the US. They have different
>> standards. As in no standards.
>
>Don't be too hard. Americans have grown up with their understanding and
>don't know any different.
>
>It wouldn't surprise me to learn that in America an ice cream parlour also
>gets classified as a restaurant. We're divided by the same language!
>
>Some fish and chips (with no tables or seating) in the U.K. style
>themselves as a "restaurant" but that's just accepted as hype and no one
>ever thinks of them as a real restaurant.

And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
it's in a higher league than fast food.

Does anyone else remember the BBF burgers, I think they morphed into Burger King.

Bruce wrote:
>
> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
> it's in a higher league than fast food.

Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.

Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
Times have changed.

On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>> it's in a higher league than fast food.
>
> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>

That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.

> Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
> Times have changed.


Empires come and go, usually over the course of just a few centuries.
The US is likely to follow suit.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
> >> it's in a higher league than fast food.
> >
> > Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
> > buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
> > relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
> >
>
> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.

Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
>
> > Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
> > Times have changed.

> Empires come and go, usually over the course of just a few centuries.
> The US is likely to follow suit.

I'll agree with you there, USA is in it's last days and much
quicker fail-time than other ruling countries in the past. The
chinese will win next, I suspect.

Gary wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > > Bruce wrote:
> > >>
> > >> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
> > >> it's in a higher league than fast food.
> > >
> > > Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
> > > buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
> > > relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
> > >
> >
> > That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>
> Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
> me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
> days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
> >
> > > Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
> > > Times have changed.
>
> > Empires come and go, usually over the course of just a few centuries.
> > The US is likely to follow suit.
>
> I'll agree with you there, USA is in it's last days and much
> quicker fail-time than other ruling countries in the past. The
> chinese will win next, I suspect.


Doubtful...China already is experienceing a severe demographic crisis and also economic woes...and besides who in their right minds would want to move *to* China, it is a corrupt and repressive communist dictatorship, it's the kind of place peeps eventually want to *leave*...witness all the Chinese investing in or moving to places like Vancouver, Oz, the US...and unlike the US, no one is storming China's borders in a desperate attempt at a better life...and the US economy still dwarfs China's...not to mention US worldwide power and influence...

And China is still generally a poor place, here are the figures:

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-ec...tandards-china

Real per capita GDP (2014):

China: $12,473

USA: $52,292

The figure shows that Chinas average real per capita income is $12,472.51, which is in line with the world median income but far below the world average..."

</>

Pamela wrote:
>
> On 15:20 21 Jul 2019, Gary > wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
> >> > Bruce wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
> >> >> it's in a higher league than fast food.
> >> >
> >> > Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
> >> > buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
> >> > relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
> >> >
> >>
> >> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
> >
> > Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
> > me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
> > days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
>
> You were posting late on a Saturday night and I guess you may have had more
> drink than you can handle.

Posting late at night?
LOL! Dumb limey. I posted 2 about this and both Sunday morning
here. First post was at 9:15am Eastern, this last one that you
are responding to, I sent at 10:20am. I never post at night
here. So much for your drinking theory eh?

This response I'm sending in one minute at 11:21am Eastern time.
I'll be back in the morning.

On 2019-07-21 10:20 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>>>> it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>>
>>> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>>> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>>> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>>
>>
>> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>
> Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
> me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
> days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
>>

Yeah, right. You got called for a stupid comment and tried to weasel out
of it by saying that you were obviously kidding. Then your turned around
and said the same thing.


>>> Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
>>> Times have changed.
>
>> Empires come and go, usually over the course of just a few centuries.
>> The US is likely to follow suit.
>
> I'll agree with you there, USA is in it's last days and much
> quicker fail-time than other ruling countries in the past. The
> chinese will win next, I suspect.
>

To Gary. Drinking in the am is the best time. Done by one.

On 7/21/2019 10:20 AM, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>>>> it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>>
>>> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>>> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>>> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>>
>>
>> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>
> Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
> me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
> days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
>>
>>> Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
>>> Times have changed.
>
>> Empires come and go, usually over the course of just a few centuries.
>> The US is likely to follow suit.
>
> I'll agree with you there, USA is in it's last days and much
> quicker fail-time than other ruling countries in the past. The
> chinese will win next, I suspect.
>

I'd agree with that. Will take a while, but will happen. Unless they
pollute themselves to extinction first.

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 10:10:17 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>>> it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>
>> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>
>
>That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.

Sometimes I feel the need to point out how stupid he talks. Other
times it speaks for itself

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:08:20 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 15:20 21 Jul 2019, Gary > wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>> > Bruce wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>>> >> it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>> >
>>> > Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>>> > buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>>> > relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>> >
>>>
>>> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>>
>> Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
>> me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
>> days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
>
>You were posting late on a Saturday night and I guess you may have had more
>drink than you can handle.

I don't think Gary drinks much. Too expensive.

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:57:17 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 15:10 21 Jul 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>>>> it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>>
>>> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>>> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>>> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>>
>>
>> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>>
>>> Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
>>> Times have changed.
>>
>>
>> Empires come and go, usually over the course of just a few centuries.
>> The US is likely to follow suit.
>
>Gary has probably resorted to name calling because he lacks any real
>argument to put forward. *shrug*

Yes, if you disagree with Gary, sooner or later he'll start to call
you names. The poor immature fella...

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 18:21:11 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 00:24:29 +0100, Pamela >
>wrote:
>
>>On 22:00 20 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 15:59:47 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Restaurant covers a large group. Yes, you can call it a takeaway
>>>>restaurant of a fast food restaurant. Family restaurant, fine dining
>>>>restaurant. Many types and many cross overs, but still fit restaurant.
>>>
>>> A fast food place is only a restaurant in the US. They have different
>>> standards. As in no standards.
>>
>>Don't be too hard. Americans have grown up with their understanding and
>>don't know any different.
>>
>>It wouldn't surprise me to learn that in America an ice cream parlour also
>>gets classified as a restaurant. We're divided by the same language!
>>
>>Some fish and chips (with no tables or seating) in the U.K. style
>>themselves as a "restaurant" but that's just accepted as hype and no one
>>ever thinks of them as a real restaurant.
>
>And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>it's in a higher league than fast food.

Here in NYS pub food is considered gourmet, they expect yoose to hit
the bar while the chef is preparing your meal. Three four beers later
you,re served a fantastic pot roast dinner.
Any Lung Guyland gin mill served a wonderful catch of the day seafood
dinner free to regulars.




















all the freshly caught flounder

On 2019-07-21 5:31 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 19:37 21 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:08:20 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 15:20 21 Jul 2019, Gary > wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even
>>>>>>> though it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>>>>>> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>>>>>> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
>>>> me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
>>>> days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
>>>
>>> You were posting late on a Saturday night and I guess you may have had
>>> more drink than you can handle.
>>
>> I don't think Gary drinks much. Too expensive.
>
> So if he wasn't drinking then what's his excuse for being nasty about Europe?
> Could it be drugs?
>

On 2019-07-21 5:31 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 19:37 21 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:08:20 +0100, Pamela

>>> You were posting late on a Saturday night and I guess you may
>>> have had more drink than you can handle.
>>
>> I don't think Gary drinks much. Too expensive.
>
> So if he wasn't drinking then what's his excuse for being nasty about
> Europe? Could it be drugs?
>

Typical of Gary, when confronted about the stupidity of his remark he
said he was only kidding. Then he repeated the stupid comment.

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 22:31:22 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 19:37 21 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 16:08:20 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 15:20 21 Jul 2019, Gary > wrote:
>>>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>>>> > Bruce wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even
>>>>> >> though it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>>>>> > buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>>>>> > relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
>>>> me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
>>>> days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.
>>>
>>>You were posting late on a Saturday night and I guess you may have had
>>>more drink than you can handle.
>>
>> I don't think Gary drinks much. Too expensive.
>
>So if he wasn't drinking then what's his excuse for being nasty about Europe?
>Could it be drugs?

No, he's just rather simple and limited.

On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 22:32:36 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 19:38 21 Jul 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:57:17 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 15:10 21 Jul 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2019-07-21 9:15 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>>>> Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And pub food isn't considered restaurant food in Europe, even though
>>>>>> it's in a higher league than fast food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
>>>>> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
>>>>> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
>>>>
>>>>> Many ruled the world once but that's all gone now. Give it up.
>>>>> Times have changed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Empires come and go, usually over the course of just a few centuries.
>>>> The US is likely to follow suit.
>>>
>>>Gary has probably resorted to name calling because he lacks any real
>>>argument to put forward. *shrug*
>>
>> Yes, if you disagree with Gary, sooner or later he'll start to call
>> you names. The poor immature fella...
>
>Is he unstable?

No, he's always like that

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:

> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> Gary wrote:
> >>> Who cares about Europe? Just a collection of ancient "horse and
> >>> buggy" countries. No significance other than ancient/historic
> >>> relics for tourists to gawk at and take pictures of.

> >> That has to be one of the stupidest things you have ever said.
> >
> > Obviously I was teasing but with a bit of truth thrown in. Tell
> > me just what do the european countries contribute to life these
> > days. Tourist value. That's all they've got.

> Yeah, right. You got called for a stupid comment and tried to weasel out
> of it by saying that you were obviously kidding. Then your turned around
> and said the same thing.

Dave, I didn't say I was "obviously kidding." I said I was
"obviously teasing." Big difference there, Einstein. Know the
difference:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teasing

Many European countries used to be top dog in the past. No
longer. This is why they formed the European Union. Many of them,
speaking collectively as a group, have some clout in the world
now. It sounds like a good thing to me.

In the USA, lobster fishermen have a collective they can join.
Gives them more power as a large group. Many dairy farmers do the
same thing.