I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.

I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.

Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.

Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
souring too soon??

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:03:58 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
> the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
> definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.
>
> I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
> the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
> 'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
> one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.
>
> Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.
>
> Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
> souring too soon??

I like my French door fridge, overall. Sometimes it's hard to find stuff
in the pull-out drawer freezer, but I think we'd have trouble no matter
what style of fridge we had.

I don't have trouble keeping milk fresh in the door, but we go through it
pretty quickly. A carton is usually in there for 2.5 days or so.

I guess I've got the pantry drawer (a short, full-width drawer). We keep
cheese and meat in it, and have never used it for, say, storing a deli
tray. It's fine, and holds a wee bit more than two separate drawers would.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:31:41 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> I like my French door fridge, overall. Sometimes it's hard to find stuff
> in the pull-out drawer freezer, but I think we'd have trouble no matter
> what style of fridge we had.
>
> I don't have trouble keeping milk fresh in the door, but we go through it
> pretty quickly. A carton is usually in there for 2.5 days or so.
>
> I guess I've got the pantry drawer (a short, full-width drawer). We keep
> cheese and meat in it, and have never used it for, say, storing a deli
> tray. It's fine, and holds a wee bit more than two separate drawers would.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Oh good, thank you!

Yes, the 'deli drawer' or 'pantry drawer' (I guess it's called whatever the
manufacturer wants to call it) is appealing to me for lunch meat and different
cheeses or anything small. I guess tomorrow I'll go prowling around a few
stores to see what they have. There's an LG that has caught my eye but so
far all I've seen it offered in is stainless steel and I'd prefer just plain
old white.

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 8:03:58 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
> the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
> definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.
>
> I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
> the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
> 'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
> one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.
>
> Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.
>
> Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
> souring too soon??

We used to have a French door Samsung refrigerator. It was quite convenient to use so I suppose that if you got the money, you should opt for one i.e., live it up while you can.

If you do get one, I'd recommend not getting the in-door ice/water dispenser. It takes up too much space inside and the seals, electronics, and mechanical parts, to the dispenser were all troublesome and had to be replaced. We replaced our French door Samsung with a old-fashioned one with a freezer on top and every time I take some ice out of the freezer, it makes me happy just thinking about not having to deal with an in-door dispenser. OTOH, this new one that we got 3 months ago has some kind of internal leak, which causes icicles to form inside the freezer.

We had problems with the hinge bushing on one of the doors which caused problems with the center seal and the ice dispenser seals. It also caused the bottom of the door to rust. That's a bummer. There was also a problem with the evaporator fan dying. In the end, the compressor stopped working so we ditched that crazy thing.

The French door models with the freezer drawer on the bottom are all the rage these days, so you're going to get a great selection and the sales guys are going to steer you in that direction. They are expensive. The old fashioned one we got was less than half the price of the Samsung. It still cost us about a thousand bucks.

Most people believe that keeping milk on the door will cause milk to sour earlier. I do not believe it myself.

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> We used to have a French door Samsung refrigerator. It was quite convenient to use so I suppose that if you got the money, you should opt for one i.e., live it up while you can.
>
> If you do get one, I'd recommend not getting the in-door ice/water dispenser. It takes up too much space inside and the seals, electronics, and mechanical parts, to the dispenser were all troublesome and had to be replaced. We replaced our French door Samsung with a old-fashioned one with a freezer on top and every time I take some ice out of the freezer, it makes me happy just thinking about not having to deal with an in-door dispenser. OTOH, this new one that we got 3 months ago has some kind of internal leak, which causes icicles to form inside the freezer.
>
No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
had trouble with those two features.
>
> We had problems with the hinge bushing on one of the doors which caused problems with the center seal and the ice dispenser seals. It also caused the bottom of the door to rust. That's a bummer. There was also a problem with the evaporator fan dying. In the end, the compressor stopped working so we ditched that crazy thing.
>
UGH! With the money that is spent on appliances you'd think they'd last more
than a couple of year before becoming a money syphon.
>
> The French door models with the freezer drawer on the bottom are all the rage these days, so you're going to get a great selection and the sales guys are going to steer you in that direction. They are expensive. The old fashioned one we got was less than half the price of the Samsung. It still cost us about a thousand bucks.
>
Yes, since I'm in the freezer far less than the 'frig I've gotten tired of
standing on my head looking for items in there. It would be great for all
of the everyday stuff to be at eye level when the door is open.
>
> Most people believe that keeping milk on the door will cause milk to sour earlier. I do not believe it myself.
>
I had a friend who had a side-by-side and milk would sour quickly when it was
stored in the door. If it won't go south in the door that would free up
shelf space for sure.

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 10:18:27 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >
> I had a friend who had a side-by-side and milk would sour quickly when it was
> stored in the door. If it won't go south in the door that would free up
> shelf space for sure.

I'm an efficiency-minded person i.e., lazy. Having a gallon of milk on the door is very convenient. I don't drink milk but it means that I won't have to move that gallon and place it somewhere when looking for stuff behind it.

In the end, it was our dream of having an all-Korean household that soured quickly. Our experience with Samsung appliances has not been a good one. OTOH, I am writing this on a Samsung Chromebook Plus. It's just awesome!

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:03:53 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>
>I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
>the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
>definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.
>
>I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
>the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
>'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
>one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.
>
>Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.

We have a model with the freezer on the bottom, like this:
https://www.fisherpaykel.com/images/...Mug-RGB-DP.jpg

I figure why bend over slightly every time you open the fridge door?
Safe to say that you're opening the fridge door at least 10 times more
often than opening the freezer section.

>Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
>souring too soon??

Never used 'jugs' as such, so have no opinion.

On 2019-09-17 2:03 p.m., wrote:
>
> I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for
> sure after the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking
> online at them and definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model.
> IF I have to go that route.
>
> I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do
> you like the single door or French door models? The French door
> models with the 'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you
> have this particular one do you like it or do you wish it was not
> part of the 'frig.

We bought a fridge with bottom freezer and love it. I have to confess
that after decades with top freezer units I am still inclined to open
the top to get ice.

I think the worst fridge we had was the one with a the fridge on the
right and the freezer on the left. Useless. The freezer was so narrow
that it was hard to get large items into it, and too small to allow
things to be crammed in together. Once in a while you need to put wide
items like cookie sheets into the fridge, and it was not wide enough for
that.



>
> Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it
> doesn't matter.
>
> Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such
> as milk souring too soon??
>

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:49:24 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:03:53 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
> >the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
> >definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.
> >
> >I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
> >the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
> >'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
> >one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.
> >
> >Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.
>
> We have a model with the freezer on the bottom, like this:
> https://www.fisherpaykel.com/images/...Mug-RGB-DP.jpg
>
Did someone steal the door handles?? Just kidding.
>
> I figure why bend over slightly every time you open the fridge door?
> Safe to say that you're opening the fridge door at least 10 times more
> often than opening the freezer section.
>
Ain't that the truth. When I'm in the freezer it's to pull out something to
cook. Whereas, when I'm in the refrigerator it's for something to drink or
a snack.
>
> >Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
> >souring too soon??
>
> Never used 'jugs' as such, so have no opinion.
>
What do you get your milk in and how do you store it in the refrigerator??

I'm looking at these 2 models.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/LG-Elect...223W/207032714

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Whirlpoo...SMHW/301854127

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 18:11:34 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>I think the worst fridge we had was the one with a the fridge on the
>right and the freezer on the left. Useless. The freezer was so narrow
>that it was hard to get large items into it, and too small to allow
>things to be crammed in together. Once in a while you need to put wide
>items like cookie sheets into the fridge, and it was not wide enough for
>that.

Yes, exactly why I don't like that design. I would rather a 'pidgeon
pair'
http://www.absservice.com.au/wp-cont...0649370175.jpg

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:49:24 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:03:53 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
>> >the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
>> >definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.
>> >
>> >I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
>> >the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
>> >'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
>> >one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.
>> >
>> >Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.
>>
>> We have a model with the freezer on the bottom, like this:
>> https://www.fisherpaykel.com/images/...Mug-RGB-DP.jpg
>>
>Did someone steal the door handles?? Just kidding.

This is damned close to the exact brand/model fridge we have in
Australia:
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/elec...ess-steel.html
Bought ours about 10 years ago, the only difference is ours has two
basic drawers in the freezer section and not all the compartments as
shown in the above pic.

>> I figure why bend over slightly every time you open the fridge door?
>> Safe to say that you're opening the fridge door at least 10 times more
>> often than opening the freezer section.
>>
>Ain't that the truth. When I'm in the freezer it's to pull out something to
>cook. Whereas, when I'm in the refrigerator it's for something to drink or
>a snack.

Yes.

>> >Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
>> >souring too soon??
>>
>> Never used 'jugs' as such, so have no opinion.
>>
>What do you get your milk in and how do you store it in the refrigerator??

Usually in plastic bottles if buying from the shop:
https://www.thetasmanianfoodco.com.a...ogenised-1-5l/


>I'm looking at these 2 models.
>
>https://www.homedepot.com/p/LG-Elect...223W/207032714
>
>https://www.homedepot.com/p/Whirlpoo...SMHW/301854127

'Access denied' Doesn't like my location, I guess.
https://www.hidemyass.com/en-au/proxy to the rescue... nope, now I'm
getting a '404'

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 05:26:25 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>I'm looking at these 2 models.
>>
>>https://www.homedepot.com/p/LG-Elect...223W/207032714
>>
>>https://www.homedepot.com/p/Whirlpoo...SMHW/301854127
>
>'Access denied' Doesn't like my location, I guess.
>https://www.hidemyass.com/en-au/proxy to the rescue... nope, now I'm
>getting a '404'

I get a refrigerator. Maybe the Thai regime doesn't want its people to
look at luxury goods. Makes them jealous and unhappy.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:03:53 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>
>I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
>the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
>definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.
>
>I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
>the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
>'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
>one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.
>
>Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.
>
>Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
>souring too soon??

I've always prefered a top freezer, I've found it much easier to
arrange... I hated having to crawl on the floor to find stuff. I
think ice makers/crushers take up too much interior space and unless
throughly cleaned regularly they schtink... I much prefer icecube
trays. For company I buy bags of ice at a convenience store.... plus
I don't want guests rummaging through my fridge.
I never tell any guests to make themselves at home, not unless they
are actually in their own abode.... I don't want strangers or even
family members exploring my home. I'm always sure to tell guests that
if they need something ask, do NOT feel free to open my cupboards,
closets, drawers.




















for company I'd buy bags of ice at a convenience store. How long milk
stays fresh in any fridge is directly related to how long/often you
leave the door open. We have a second top freezer fridge in the
basement, that's where we store extra milk, never goes bad as it's
rarely opened

wrote:
> I
> think ice makers/crushers take up too much interior space and unless
> throughly cleaned regularly they schtink...

Popeye, that's yoose body odor, not the icemaker!

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 15:15:46 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >What do you get your milk in and how do you store it in the refrigerator??
>
> Usually in plastic bottles if buying from the shop:
> https://www.thetasmanianfoodco.com.a...ogenised-1-5l/
>
Ok, we can milk in pints, quarts, 1/2 gallons, and full gallon size.
>
> >I'm looking at these 2 models.
> >
> >https://www.homedepot.com/p/LG-Elect...223W/207032714
> >
> >https://www.homedepot.com/p/Whirlpoo...SMHW/301854127
>
> 'Access denied' Doesn't like my location, I guess.
> https://www.hidemyass.com/en-au/proxy to the rescue... nope, now I'm
> getting a '404'
>
One is a single door, bottom freezer and the other one is a French door,
bottom freezer.

Try this:
https://i.postimg.cc/SNtDSLrr/Bottom-Freezer.jpg

And the French door model:
https://i.postimg.cc/CKdZFDcj/French...frigerator.jpg

French door interior:
https://i.postimg.cc/SNNmF4T9/French-Door-Interior.jpg

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 6:37:38 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I've always prefered a top freezer, I've found it much easier to
> arrange... I hated having to crawl on the floor to find stuff.
>
You'd not be crawling on the floor. It's just like pulling out the bottom
drawer in your cabinets.
>
> I
> think ice makers/crushers take up too much interior space and unless
> throughly cleaned regularly they schtink... I much prefer icecube
> trays. For company I buy bags of ice at a convenience store.... plus
> I don't want guests rummaging through my fridge.
>
I haven't seen any refrigerators that don't come with an ice maker now.
If I do have to buy a new 'frig the ice maker will not be connected to a
water line. My present refrigerator has an ice maker and in the 25 years
since I've had it, it has never been hooked up.
>
> I never tell any guests to make themselves at home, not unless they
> are actually in their own abode.... I don't want strangers or even
> family members exploring my home. I'm always sure to tell guests that
> if they need something ask, do NOT feel free to open my cupboards,
> closets, drawers.
>
I don't know where that came from but I agree.

On 9/17/2019 2:03 PM, wrote:
>
> I _may_ be buying a new refrigerator this week and will know for sure after
> the repairman leaves here Thursday. I've been looking online at them and
> definitely have decided on a bottom freezer model. IF I have to go that route.
>
> I'd like opinions from those of you who have the bottom freezers do you like
> the single door or French door models? The French door models with the
> 'pantry drawer' are really catching my eye and if you have this particular
> one do you like it or do you wish it was not part of the 'frig.
>
> Let me know what your preferences are, please, good or bad, it doesn't matter.
>
> Also, does keeping milk jugs in the door bins create a problem such as milk
> souring too soon??
>

Over the years we had two top freezer, one side by side and two French
door. We had a Samsung French door with the drawer too and found that
to be very handy. When we moved, we got the same fridge but were able to
get the next size larger. If I had to buy another fridge tomorrow, I'd
get the same thing.

I've been spoiled with ice maker and water dispenser and would not want
to live without them. If the ice stinks it is because you don't know
how to properly store foods in the fridge. Our ice is plentiful and
clean.

This is ours.
https://tinyurl.com/yaeespxc

No matter your final choice, I strongly recommend the French door.

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 9:07:57 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Over the years we had two top freezer, one side by side and two French
> door. We had a Samsung French door with the drawer too and found that
> to be very handy. When we moved, we got the same fridge but were able to
> get the next size larger. If I had to buy another fridge tomorrow, I'd
> get the same thing.
>
> I've been spoiled with ice maker and water dispenser and would not want
> to live without them. If the ice stinks it is because you don't know
> how to properly store foods in the fridge. Our ice is plentiful and
> clean.
>
> This is ours.
> https://tinyurl.com/yaeespxc
>
Verrrrry fancy!!
>
> No matter your final choice, I strongly recommend the French door.
>
Thanks, I will keep that in mind.

On 9/17/2019 9:51 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 12:18:58 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, the 'deli drawer' or 'pantry drawer' (I guess it's called whatever the
>> manufacturer wants to call it) is appealing to me for lunch meat and different
>> cheeses or anything small. I guess tomorrow I'll go prowling around a few
>> stores to see what they have. There's an LG that has caught my eye but so
>> far all I've seen it offered in is stainless steel and I'd prefer just plain
>> old white.
>
> I use the deli drawer the most. It keeps small flat things and
> small tubs. Main compartment is for leftovers, thawing items,
> condiments, jugs, jars, etc...
>
> -sw
>

I use it pretty much the same way. Last week I made a cheesecake in a
10 x 15 Pyrex dish and it was easy to pit it in there. Very handy for
any large platters or trays.

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:31:41 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > I like my French door fridge, overall. Sometimes it's hard to find stuff
> > in the pull-out drawer freezer, but I think we'd have trouble no matter
> > what style of fridge we had.
> >
> > I don't have trouble keeping milk fresh in the door, but we go through it
> > pretty quickly. A carton is usually in there for 2.5 days or so.
> >
> > I guess I've got the pantry drawer (a short, full-width drawer). We keep
> > cheese and meat in it, and have never used it for, say, storing a deli
> > tray. It's fine, and holds a wee bit more than two separate drawers would.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Oh good, thank you!
>
> Yes, the 'deli drawer' or 'pantry drawer' (I guess it's called whatever the
> manufacturer wants to call it) is appealing to me for lunch meat and different
> cheeses or anything small. I guess tomorrow I'll go prowling around a few
> stores to see what they have. There's an LG that has caught my eye but so
> far all I've seen it offered in is stainless steel and I'd prefer just plain
> old white.

Ours if off-white to go with our "vintage" 1985 kitchen. It's a Kenmore,
so made by one of the Big 3 appliance manufacturers.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 2:48:54 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > We used to have a French door Samsung refrigerator. It was quite convenient to use so I suppose that if you got the money, you should opt for one i.e., live it up while you can.
> >
> > If you do get one, I'd recommend not getting the in-door ice/water dispenser. It takes up too much space inside and the seals, electronics, and mechanical parts, to the dispenser were all troublesome and had to be replaced. We replaced our French door Samsung with a old-fashioned one with a freezer on top and every time I take some ice out of the freezer, it makes me happy just thinking about not having to deal with an in-door dispenser. OTOH, this new one that we got 3 months ago has some kind of internal leak, which causes icicles to form inside the freezer.
> >
> No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
> do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
> dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
> don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
> but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
> it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
> anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
> had trouble with those two features.

Our ice maker once had a very minor problem. IIRC the water line was blocked
by a little ice that had formed in there.

Other than that, the ice makers that we've had over the past 30 years have
been flawless.

Cindy Hamilton

" wrote:
>
> dsi1 wrote:
> > Most people believe that keeping milk on the door will cause milk to sour earlier. I do not believe it myself.
> >
> I had a friend who had a side-by-side and milk would sour quickly when it was
> stored in the door. If it won't go south in the door that would free up
> shelf space for sure.

For what it's worth Joan, Alton Brown talked about that on an
episode of Good Eats just last week. He did say that the door
shelves are the warmest part of your fridge. Depending on your
fridge temp, that doesn't mean that it's too warm, just warmer
than on a shelf inside.

My fridge stays at 35F and freezer a bit below 0.
I've never checked the door shelf temp.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:14:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT),
>wrote:
>
>> No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
>> do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
>> dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
>> don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
>> but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
>> it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
>> anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
>> had trouble with those two features.
>
>Icemakers are fairly reliable, and mine takes up very little space.
>The problems come from in-door dispensers, which are the space hogs
>and prone to mechanical failures. I don't have those; I'm not lazy
>enough to not be able to open the door and scoop out ice. Then wait
>for a 1-2 minutes for the water dispenser with enlarged prostate to
>pee into my 32oz cups. What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
>around ice cube trays.
>
>-sw

PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 9:47:31 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:14:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT),
> >wrote:
> >
> >> No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
> >> do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
> >> dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
> >> don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
> >> but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
> >> it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
> >> anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
> >> had trouble with those two features.
> >
> >Icemakers are fairly reliable, and mine takes up very little space.
> >The problems come from in-door dispensers, which are the space hogs
> >and prone to mechanical failures. I don't have those; I'm not lazy
> >enough to not be able to open the door and scoop out ice. Then wait
> >for a 1-2 minutes for the water dispenser with enlarged prostate to
> >pee into my 32oz cups. What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
> >around ice cube trays.
> >
> >-sw
>
> PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
> AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
> TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
> USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.

I can't speak for sw, but my husband uses so much ice I buy a couple
extra eight-pound bags per week because the ice maker can't keep up.
His idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice
and then add water. I use some ice, but just a fraction of his usage.

And, no, we don't have enough room in our freezers for ice cube trays.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 02:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 9:47:31 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:14:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT),
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
>> >> do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
>> >> dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
>> >> don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
>> >> but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
>> >> it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
>> >> anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
>> >> had trouble with those two features.
>> >
>> >Icemakers are fairly reliable, and mine takes up very little space.
>> >The problems come from in-door dispensers, which are the space hogs
>> >and prone to mechanical failures. I don't have those; I'm not lazy
>> >enough to not be able to open the door and scoop out ice. Then wait
>> >for a 1-2 minutes for the water dispenser with enlarged prostate to
>> >pee into my 32oz cups. What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
>> >around ice cube trays.
>> >
>> >-sw
>>
>> PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
>> AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
>> TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
>> USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.
>
>I can't speak for sw, but my husband uses so much ice I buy a couple
>extra eight-pound bags per week because the ice maker can't keep up.
>His idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice
>and then add water. I use some ice, but just a fraction of his usage.
>
>And, no, we don't have enough room in our freezers for ice cube trays.

I thought Americans had freezers and fridges Europeans could live in.

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:47:33 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 02:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 9:47:31 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:14:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT),
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
> >> >> do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
> >> >> dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
> >> >> don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
> >> >> but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
> >> >> it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
> >> >> anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
> >> >> had trouble with those two features.
> >> >
> >> >Icemakers are fairly reliable, and mine takes up very little space.
> >> >The problems come from in-door dispensers, which are the space hogs
> >> >and prone to mechanical failures. I don't have those; I'm not lazy
> >> >enough to not be able to open the door and scoop out ice. Then wait
> >> >for a 1-2 minutes for the water dispenser with enlarged prostate to
> >> >pee into my 32oz cups. What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
> >> >around ice cube trays.
> >> >
> >> >-sw
> >>
> >> PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
> >> AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
> >> TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
> >> USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.
> >
> >I can't speak for sw, but my husband uses so much ice I buy a couple
> >extra eight-pound bags per week because the ice maker can't keep up.
> >His idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice
> >and then add water. I use some ice, but just a fraction of his usage.
> >
> >And, no, we don't have enough room in our freezers for ice cube trays.
>
> I thought Americans had freezers and fridges Europeans could live in.

They could. Mine, however, are full of food. Of course, if some Europeans
offered enough rent to live in my fridge, I'd consider it.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 03:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:47:33 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 02:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 9:47:31 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:

>> >> PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
>> >> AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
>> >> TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
>> >> USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.
>> >
>> >I can't speak for sw, but my husband uses so much ice I buy a couple
>> >extra eight-pound bags per week because the ice maker can't keep up.
>> >His idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice
>> >and then add water. I use some ice, but just a fraction of his usage.
>> >
>> >And, no, we don't have enough room in our freezers for ice cube trays.
>>
>> I thought Americans had freezers and fridges Europeans could live in.
>
>They could. Mine, however, are full of food. Of course, if some Europeans
>offered enough rent to live in my fridge, I'd consider it.

Maybe a couple of recently evicted Greenlanders?

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 6:33:50 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 03:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:47:33 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 02:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 9:47:31 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:
>
> >> >> PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
> >> >> AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
> >> >> TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
> >> >> USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.
> >> >
> >> >I can't speak for sw, but my husband uses so much ice I buy a couple
> >> >extra eight-pound bags per week because the ice maker can't keep up.
> >> >His idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice
> >> >and then add water. I use some ice, but just a fraction of his usage.
> >> >
> >> >And, no, we don't have enough room in our freezers for ice cube trays.
> >>
> >> I thought Americans had freezers and fridges Europeans could live in.
> >
> >They could. Mine, however, are full of food. Of course, if some Europeans
> >offered enough rent to live in my fridge, I'd consider it.
>
> Maybe a couple of recently evicted Greenlanders?

Good one.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce wrote:
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >Bruce wrote:
> >> I thought Americans had freezers and fridges Europeans could live in.

> >They could. Mine, however, are full of food. Of course, if some Europeans
> >offered enough rent to live in my fridge, I'd consider it.

> Maybe a couple of recently evicted Greenlanders?

Albert Einstein pic on thin cardboard has lived in my freezer for
about 30 years now. My daughter always cracks up whenever she
visits and sees him still in there. Next on the permanent freezer
list is a tiny little toy polar bear and maybe a penguin too.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >Bruce wrote:
> >> I thought Americans had freezers and fridges Europeans could live in.

> >They could. Mine, however, are full of food. Of course, if some Europeans
> >offered enough rent to live in my fridge, I'd consider it.

> Maybe a couple of recently evicted Greenlanders?

Albert Einstein pic on thin cardboard has lived in my freezer for
about 30 years now. My daughter always cracks up whenever she
visits and sees him still in there. He serves a good purpose
though. Next on the permanent freezer list is a tiny little toy
polar bear and maybe a penguin too. Those will be just for fun
ingredients to amuse guests that might open my freezer door. lol

Sheldon won't allow guests to open his freezer doors though.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 21:47:27 -0400, wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:14:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT),
>>wrote:
>>
>>> No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
>>> do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
>>> dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
>>> don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
>>> but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
>>> it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
>>> anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
>>> had trouble with those two features.
>>
>>Icemakers are fairly reliable, and mine takes up very little space.
>>The problems come from in-door dispensers, which are the space hogs
>>and prone to mechanical failures. I don't have those; I'm not lazy
>>enough to not be able to open the door and scoop out ice. Then wait
>>for a 1-2 minutes for the water dispenser with enlarged prostate to
>>pee into my 32oz cups. What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
>>around ice cube trays.
>>
>>-sw
>
>PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
>AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
>TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
>USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.

I refill two ice cube trays at least twice per day. I guess my
household has different needs than yours does

wrote:
>
> Sqwertz wrote:
> > What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
> > around ice cube trays.
> >
> >-sw
>
> PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
> AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
> TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
> USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.

LOL. I do agree with you, Shelken. I keep 2 ice trays in my
freezer.
I even rarely use them. Most time take them out just to replace
with
fresh water and ice. No big issue here.

Agree too that anytime I've ever used ice from someone's
icemaker, door dispenser or inside bin, it always does have that
off taste.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 09:09:08 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 21:47:27 -0400, wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:14:09 -0500, Sqwertz >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 17 Sep 2019 13:18:23 -0700 (PDT),
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, no, no. I don't want a water dispenser and the ones I've got my eye on
>>>> do not have this feature. I've looked at 'frigs in the past with the water
>>>> dispenser and really what a space hog they are. It seems refrigerators now
>>>> don't come without an ice maker. My present 25 year old Whirlpool has one
>>>> but it's never been connected and this will be the first time since I bought
>>>> it that a repair man will be knocking at my door. I don't think I know of
>>>> anyone who has their ice maker connected or a water dispenser who has not
>>>> had trouble with those two features.
>>>
>>>Icemakers are fairly reliable, and mine takes up very little space.
>>>The problems come from in-door dispensers, which are the space hogs
>>>and prone to mechanical failures. I don't have those; I'm not lazy
>>>enough to not be able to open the door and scoop out ice. Then wait
>>>for a 1-2 minutes for the water dispenser with enlarged prostate to
>>>pee into my 32oz cups. What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
>>>around ice cube trays.
>>>
>>>-sw
>>
>>PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
>>AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
>>TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
>>USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.
>
>I refill two ice cube trays at least twice per day. I guess my
>household has different needs than yours does

4 trays of ice is not a lot... I can go through 4 trays a day but not
all at once... takes about 4 hours to freeze cubes. My trays hold 12
cubes, the first time I fill my 16 oz glass I'll use ten cubes, but
the next fill only needs 4-5 cubes. My freezer easily keeps up with
my ice usage. My wife rarely uses any ice, she prefers everything at
room temperature, she doean't like fresh fruit from the fridge, she
leaves her apples and oranges out on the counter... growing up in a
tropical country that's what she's used to.. And as I said, the few
times we have ice using company we'll buy a bag of Krystal Klear from
the 7-11... but I don't use that ice, I fill my trays with RO water.
Yoose can make your own Krystal Klear, simply boil the water before
freezing, boiling drives the dissolved atmospheric gases out... that's
how the ice machines at the gin mills work. Their ordinary tap water
is heated briefly prior to freezing, it's not actually boiled... it's
done for esthetics. Clear ice looks cleaner but it's not.... eaterys
and gin mills do not filter their tap water.
Ice machines at eateries, hotels, etc. are actualy filthy, no one ever
cleans them.

wrote:
> Ice machines at eateries, hotels, etc. are actualy filthy, no one ever
> cleans them.


Popeye, yoose need to quit stickin yoose giant tallywhacker in ice
machines. Some day, the machine might start up and chop up yoose big
ole pee pee. Or has this already happened?

Stick it in dem ole mexican wimmens. Nice, loose an' juicy. Smells
like heaven to yoose. Better than yoose old aunt.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:13:36 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>> > What I don't miss is filling up and swapping
>> > around ice cube trays.
>> >
>> >-sw
>>
>> PUH-LEESE... HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO REFILL TWO ICE CUBE TRAYS?
>> AT BEST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY, I NEVER THINK ABOUT HOW LONG IT
>> TAKES, TAKES LIKE SIX SECONDS... YOU LIVE ALONE, HOW NUCH ICE CAN YOU
>> USE? AT MOST I REFILL TWO TRAYS EACH DAY.
>
>LOL. I do agree with you, Shelken. I keep 2 ice trays in my
>freezer.
>I even rarely use them. Most time take them out just to replace
>with
>fresh water and ice. No big issue here.
>
>Agree too that anytime I've ever used ice from someone's
>icemaker, door dispenser or inside bin, it always does have that
>off taste.

People with ice makers in their fridge have ice that always schtinks
like the food in their fridge... I don't appreciate my Crystal Palace
schtinking like onions and fish. I never save part of a cut onion and
I never cook fish at home. Any time I cut an onion I use it all or
toss the rest out my window. When we want seafood we go out to eat.
However we don't eat seafood here, we are way too far from the sea to
get fresh caught seafood... all the seafood joints serve frozen, YIK!

wrote:
> I don't appreciate my Crystal Palace
> schtinking like onions and fish.

That ain't the odors in yoose fridge Popeye. Yoose old woman
generally ****es in yoose drink before she sashays in with it.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 22:25:43 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

wrote:
>> I don't appreciate my Crystal Palace
>> schtinking like onions and fish.
>
>That ain't the odors in yoose fridge Popeye. Yoose old woman
>generally ****es in yoose drink before she sashays in with it.

Can't you vary a bit more? You're becoming a bigger idiot than
Sheldon.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 01:10:18 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 03:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 5:47:33 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>
>>> I thought Americans had freezers and fridges Europeans could live in.
>>
>> They could. Mine, however, are full of food. Of course, if some Europeans
>> offered enough rent to live in my fridge, I'd consider it.
>
>'Bruce' is geting the countries he puts down confused. The proper
>put down would have been, "...that Japanese could live in".

Japanese can live in the vegetable drawer.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 Sqwertz wrote:
>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 penmart wrote:
>
>
>> 4 trays of ice is not a lot... I can go through 4 trays a day but not
>> all at once... takes about 4 hours to freeze cubes. My trays hold 12
>> cubes, the first time I fill my 16 oz glass I'll use ten cubes...
>
>Oh, stop already. Sheesh. Ain't no 16oz glass going to hold 10
>standard tray cubes unless it's square or rectangular.

I've posted pictures of the 16 oz glass I use, it's wider, taller, and
more tapered than a normal water tumbler. And when I fill my trays I
don't fill them to the tippy top so that they spill when I carry them
to the freezer plus water expands as it freezes so they become full
size cubes but not all joined together at the top. However ice cubes
are tapered, I fill the glass with the wide end of the cubes towards
the outside of the glass so that the cubes form an arch, there is very
little void space, if I wanted I could fit all twelve cubes but then
there wouldn't be much space for liquid. I just thought to check, the
plastic trays that came with this GE Profile fridge, they actually
hold 16 cubes so I'm putting 14 cubes in the glass... I never thought
to count them before. I just measured the trays, they're 12" x 5" by
1 1/2" deep. I have no other trays to compare to. My basement fridge
didn't come with ice cube trays nor is there a designated place in its
top freezer for trays. Anyway, who gives a rat's b-hind, I've been
using this GE for more than 20 years and it's ice cubes have worked to
my satisfaction.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 02:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > I can't speak for sw, but my husband uses so much ice I buy a couple
> > extra eight-pound bags per week because the ice maker can't keep up.
> > His idea of a glass of water is to fill a 32-ounce glass with ice
> > and then add water. I use some ice, but just a fraction of his usage.
>
> I fill my 32oz cups half with ice, then water. But I drink 6-10 of
> them a day.

My home use plastic cup is also 32oz size but I don't
drink that many per day. Maybe 4-5. Not much ice either.


> The 'coaster' I have next to my computer is an 8x11 tablet of paper.
> When it gets gnarly I just rip off a few sheets of paper.

I just tear off about 3-4 inches of one paper towel then fold
in half. Torn from the perforation side, it tears evenly.