Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html

====

I heard something about this today on the radio! It seems the company in
California have used that on a couple of things on sale here, and intend to
use it on many more)

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 17:51:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>
>Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>
>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>
>====
>
> I heard something about this today on the radio! It seems the company in
>California have used that on a couple of things on sale here, and intend to
>use it on many more)
>
Gosh! That means that you read the article

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 17:51:41 +0100, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
.. .
>
>
>Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>
>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>
>====
>
> I heard something about this today on the radio! It seems the company
> in
>California have used that on a couple of things on sale here, and intend to
>use it on many more)
>
Gosh! That means that you read the article

===

Why on earth would I not??? )) LOL

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html

And THEY have TESTED this on humans?

I guess THEY ARE! ALL OF YOU!!

How does it feel to be guinea pigs? Hey you did OK after MonSATAN invented Aspartame!

Except you are ALL FAT!

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
> >
> > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>
> And THEY have TESTED this on humans?

According to the maker of the coating:

Apeel is made of plant-derived materials €” lipids and glycerolipids €” that exist in the peels, seeds, and pulp of all the fruits and vegetables we already eat.

They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:46:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> > Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>> >
>> > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>
>> And THEY have TESTED this on humans?
>
>According to the maker of the coating:
>
>Apeel is made of plant-derived materials €” lipids and glycerolipids €” that exist in the peels, seeds, and pulp of all the fruits and vegetables we already eat.
>
>They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.

In the US, money changes hands and voilÃ*, there's your approval!

On 9/18/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>>
>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>
>> And THEY have TESTED this on humans?
>
> According to the maker of the coating:
>
> Apeel is made of plant-derived materials €” lipids and glycerolipids €” that exist in the peels, seeds, and pulp of all the fruits and vegetables we already eat.
>
> They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Since the ingredients are plant based, they are going to call it BruceJuice.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:04:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/18/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>>
>>> And THEY have TESTED this on humans?
>>
>> According to the maker of the coating:
>>
>> Apeel is made of plant-derived materials €” lipids and glycerolipids €” that exist in the peels, seeds, and pulp of all the fruits and vegetables we already eat.
>>
>> They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>Since the ingredients are plant based, they are going to call it BruceJuice.

Oh, there must be a real vegetarian in your country that they can name
it after.

On 2019-09-18 3:04 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 9/18/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
> Since the ingredients are plant based, they are going to call it
> BruceJuice.

Ewwwww.

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 1:46:14 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
> > >
> > > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
> >
> > And THEY have TESTED this on humans?
>
> According to the maker of the coating:
>
> Apeel is made of plant-derived materials €” lipids and glycerolipids €” that exist in the peels, seeds, and pulp of all the fruits and vegetables we already eat.
>
> They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Great! Poison Ivy is a plant based material too, but I do NOT put it in my mouth!!

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>
>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html


Longer lasting usually means inferior taste. The fruit we get here is
awesome, old varieties not bred for longevity or ease of
transportation. This means fruit like bananas typically last 2 or 3
days before being overripe. But the easy solution to that is to buy
less at a time and go to the market more often.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:24:48 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>
>>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>
>
>Longer lasting usually means inferior taste. The fruit we get here is
>awesome, old varieties not bred for longevity or ease of
>transportation. This means fruit like bananas typically last 2 or 3
>days before being overripe. But the easy solution to that is to buy
>less at a time and go to the market more often.

Hmm, I went back and read the article. NOT about breeding but a
chemical treatment. For the consumer, not much benefit beyond knowing
that in theory, food waste will be reduced. It is often cited that 50%
of food ends up being landfill, so from that perspective it is
potentially a good thing.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 15:04:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 9/18/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>>
>>> And THEY have TESTED this on humans?
>>
>> According to the maker of the coating:
>>
>> Apeel is made of plant-derived materials — lipids and glycerolipids — that exist in the peels, seeds, and pulp of all the fruits and vegetables we already eat.
>>
>> They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>
>Since the ingredients are plant based, they are going to call it BruceJuice.

Boom-tish.

Although, I prefer it be called Stephen Hawking juice.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:17:48 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-09-18 3:04 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 9/18/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>>
>> Since the ingredients are plant based, they are going to call it
>> BruceJuice.
>
>Ewwwww.

Eww to your Ewwwww. I hadn't thought of that connotation until you
said that. Thanks.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:05:11 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>
>And THEY have TESTED this on humans?
>
>I guess THEY ARE! ALL OF YOU!!

Feeling self-righteous and superior again, John?

>How does it feel to be guinea pigs? Hey you did OK after MonSATAN invented Aspartame!

What Aspartame do I use? Where is it?

>Except you are ALL FAT!

I'm 56 and within my so-called 'correct' BMI/weight range, John, and
fit. Can you say the same?

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:37:45 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:17:48 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2019-09-18 3:04 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 9/18/2019 2:46 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>>
>>> Since the ingredients are plant based, they are going to call it
>>> BruceJuice.
>>
>>Ewwwww.
>
>Eww to your Ewwwww. I hadn't thought of that connotation until you
>said that. Thanks.

This is like watching 3 children playing in the schoolyard

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 11:46:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 2:05:14 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:08 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> > Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>> >
>> > https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>
>> And THEY have TESTED this on humans?
>
>According to the maker of the coating:
>
>Apeel is made of plant-derived materials — lipids and glycerolipids — that exist in the peels, seeds, and pulp of all the fruits and vegetables we already eat.

That doesn't necessarily makes it safe - not saying it isn't safe
though. For example, cucurbitacins in cucumber skin can be toxic (it's
that bitter taste) although it's admittedly rare to adversely affect
people. But it has actually killed people in extreme cases.

Another one would be too much Omega 6 fatty acids in your diet, the
right amount in balance with Omega 3 is healthy... too much is
unhealthy.

Just playing devil's advocate again. Or perhaps I should say 'devil's
avocado', just to keep it more food related.

>They expect the EU to approve it, and they're much stricter than the U.S.

Yes, the EU has a more impartial system in place.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:31:48 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:24:48 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>>
>>>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>
>>
>>Longer lasting usually means inferior taste. The fruit we get here is
>>awesome, old varieties not bred for longevity or ease of
>>transportation. This means fruit like bananas typically last 2 or 3
>>days before being overripe. But the easy solution to that is to buy
>>less at a time and go to the market more often.
>
>Hmm, I went back and read the article. NOT about breeding but a
>chemical treatment. For the consumer, not much benefit beyond knowing
>that in theory, food waste will be reduced. It is often cited that 50%
>of food ends up being landfill, so from that perspective it is
>potentially a good thing.

Bravo! Jebus. You read the article and then commented.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:30:34 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>
>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>
>This probably also means they will take far longer to ripen after
>buying to, as they require ethylene and oxygen to to ripen.
snip
>
>-sw

Well, yes, that would be the result of keeping produce items from
spoiling quickly. It's a progression -- unripe, ripe, spoiled.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:25:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:31:48 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:24:48 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>>>
>>>>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Longer lasting usually means inferior taste. The fruit we get here is
>>>awesome, old varieties not bred for longevity or ease of
>>>transportation. This means fruit like bananas typically last 2 or 3
>>>days before being overripe. But the easy solution to that is to buy
>>>less at a time and go to the market more often.
>>
>>Hmm, I went back and read the article. NOT about breeding but a
>>chemical treatment. For the consumer, not much benefit beyond knowing
>>that in theory, food waste will be reduced. It is often cited that 50%
>>of food ends up being landfill, so from that perspective it is
>>potentially a good thing.
>
>Bravo! Jebus. You read the article and then commented.

Even deities can have shortcomings I made an erroneous assumption
based on the article's title.

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 05:32:53 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:25:39 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:31:48 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 04:24:48 +0700, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>>>>
>>>>>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Longer lasting usually means inferior taste. The fruit we get here is
>>>>awesome, old varieties not bred for longevity or ease of
>>>>transportation. This means fruit like bananas typically last 2 or 3
>>>>days before being overripe. But the easy solution to that is to buy
>>>>less at a time and go to the market more often.
>>>
>>>Hmm, I went back and read the article. NOT about breeding but a
>>>chemical treatment. For the consumer, not much benefit beyond knowing
>>>that in theory, food waste will be reduced. It is often cited that 50%
>>>of food ends up being landfill, so from that perspective it is
>>>potentially a good thing.
>>
>>Bravo! Jebus. You read the article and then commented.
>
>Even deities can have shortcomings I made an erroneous assumption
>based on the article's title.

LOL :-))

In article >, lid
says...
>
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:30:18 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:30:34 -0500, Sqwertz >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
> >>>
> >>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
> >>
> >>This probably also means they will take far longer to ripen after
> >>buying to, as they require ethylene and oxygen to to ripen.
> > snip
> >
> > Well, yes, that would be the result of keeping produce items from
> > spoiling quickly. It's a progression -- unripe, ripe, spoiled.

One potential objection is loss of vitamin content, which starts to
decline as soon as crops are harvested. Longer storage = lower vitamins
?

https://www.westonaprice.org/health-...eel-appealing/

"AND MORE QUESTIONS
Apeel Sciences? products present a range of economic, international and
regulatory concerns. Consider the Codex Alimentarius international food
standards and the other international regulations that control world
food markets. Food already travels around the world via Codex. For
example, chickens are shipped to China for bleaching and then come back
to the U.S. marketplace for sale.5 What will happen to apple growers in
the U.S. when Apeel-coated apples start pouring in from China? Far-away
economies may get a boost from Apeel, but local farmers risk going out
of business while consumers are left with less nutritious and lower-
quality foods."

> But the real question is, after you wait 7-14 days for them to ripen
> (can you wash off that residue to make them ripen normally?),

No. Apeel say it can't be washed off.

Preservative coatings on the non-edible peels of exotic imports
(avocadoes, bananas) are one thing, but I'd not be very keen to buy
local fresh produce (strawberries, plums) that's been sprayed with Apeel
to make it look younger and fresher than it is.

In UK, many types of perishable fruit and veg are both produced here (in
season) AND (out of season) imported from far round the globe,
(tomatoes, strawberries, asparagus, green beans). So we're already well
aware of the difference age and transit time makes to smell and
flavour. Even when the product looks visually perfect.

Apeel has just been passed for use in the EU. Here, it will probably
be marketed as a way to reduce plastic packaging of fresh fruit and veg
( plastic waste is a matter of consumer concern here).

Janet UK

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:49:43 +0100, Janet > wrote:

>( plastic waste is a matter of consumer concern here).

And everywhere else.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 20:03:45 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:30:18 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 14:30:34 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 10:47:00 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not just avocados either. How did they do it? Read on . . .
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/busin...eel/index.html
>>>
>>>This probably also means they will take far longer to ripen after
>>>buying to, as they require ethylene and oxygen to to ripen.
>> snip
>>
>> Well, yes, that would be the result of keeping produce items from
>> spoiling quickly. It's a progression -- unripe, ripe, spoiled.
>
>But the real question is, after you wait 7-14 days for them to ripen
>(can you wash off that residue to make them ripen normally?), will
>they stay ripe for 4-5 days, or will you still only have that 36
>hour window for a ripe avocado?
>
>Here in Texas, probably the most avocado-consuming state in the
>U.S., we never have avocados going rotten. We always know we have
>to have to buy them 2-5 days in advance and either retard or hasten
>their ripening.
>
>-sw

Did you know that you can refrigerate ripe and almost ripe avocados
and they will keep in that state for quite some time? I buy the bag
from Costco, leave the bag on the counter until I can feel the
ripening and then put 4 or so in the veggie keeper until needed.
Janet US

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 00:59:54 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 09:32:16 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 18 Sep 2019 20:03:45 -0500, Sqwertz >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>But the real question is, after you wait 7-14 days for them to ripen
>>>(can you wash off that residue to make them ripen normally?), will
>>>they stay ripe for 4-5 days, or will you still only have that 36
>>>hour window for a ripe avocado?
>>>
>>>Here in Texas, probably the most avocado-consuming state in the
>>>U.S., we never have avocados going rotten. We always know we have
>>>to have to buy them 2-5 days in advance and either retard or hasten
>>>their ripening.
>>
>> Did you know that you can refrigerate ripe and almost ripe avocados
>> and they will keep in that state for quite some time? I buy the bag
>> from Costco, leave the bag on the counter until I can feel the
>> ripening and then put 4 or so in the veggie keeper until needed.
>> Janet US
>
>Yes, I know that and used to buy Costco avocados regularly. There's
>been a lot of hoopla in recent years regarding Costco avocados on
>the Costco reddit and they don't act "normally". Ijust wait until
>the Mexican varieties go on sale for 2 or 3 for $1 and take my
>chances with them. I don't pay the $1.33/ea for Costco avocados any
>more.
>
>-sw


Around here the tiny avocados go for a buck 39 or more and the larger
ones are in the 3 dollar range. None of them are as large as the
Costco ones. No avocado trees near by.
Janet US