On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:09:20 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> It just sounds a bit silly that you can't press a light switch.
>
There's no light switch to press. Besides, a lamp on in the evening makes the
house look occupied even if I'm not at home.

On 11/4/2019 8:22 AM, heyjoe wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:47:25 -0500
> in Message-ID: >
> jmcquown wrote :
>
>> I simply cannot imagine a scenario where
>> I'd need to tell the kitchen faucet to turn on and off by itself from
>> across the room. A "feature", apparently, is you can tell it to
>> dispense a specific amount of water. "Alexa, tell Delta faucet to
>> dispense 1 cup."
>
> I can remember when TV remotes didn't exist and didn't need one at the
> time. Wouldn't want to be without one now.
>
You couldn't be without a TV remote now because on most TV's there
aren't any buttons to push. No dials to turn. Without the remote, the
no way to turn the TV on. Sad, really.

> Clearly a voice activated faucet is a solution looking to solve an
> unseen problem. Somebody'll find that problem, eventually.

Maybe it will recognize barks after the dog learns to put the water dish
into the sink.

Jill

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 12:48:16 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:09:20 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> It just sounds a bit silly that you can't press a light switch.
>>
>There's no light switch to press. Besides, a lamp on in the evening makes the
>house look occupied even if I'm not at home.

True that.

wrote:
> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 2:09:20 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> It just sounds a bit silly that you can't press a light switch.
>>
> There's no light switch to press. Besides, a lamp on in the evening makes the
> house look occupied even if I'm not at home.
>

I wish druce had a switch.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 11/4/2019 12:15 AM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 11:06:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:54:54 -0800 (PST),
> > > "
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It should have read as 10:30, not 10:00, and what's pathetic
> > > > about it? It's nice to come home in the evening after dark to
> > > > a house with a light on in the living room.
> > >
> > > Sounds very silly to me.
> > >
> > Well, I didn't think it was silly when I worked shift work and in
> > the winter time I'd always get home well after dark. No fumbling
> > for a light switch or a lamp. If I'm gone now in the evenings it's
> > still nice to come home to a light on in the house. Maybe you
> > don't have electric lights where you live and you have to light a
> > candle?
> >
>
> In addition to having a light on, I have a couple of night lights
> too. One in the kitchen, one in each bathroom. One slip or trip can
> cause serious injury. I'd not want to walk into the bathroom and
> trip over the towel warmer.

We are of an age that we leave some lights on all the time for that
reason. Back room and Kitchen. I think it might be a good idea to put
a nightlight in the main bathroom that auto-activates at dark here.

Gary wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> > I've given this some thought. I simply cannot imagine a scenario
> > where I'd need to tell the kitchen faucet to turn on and off by
> > itself from across the room. A "feature", apparently, is you can
> > tell it to dispense a specific amount of water. "Alexa, tell Delta
> > faucet to dispense 1 cup."
> >
> > Your thoughts?
>
> In the future, you'll be anywhere in the house, have an
> issue where you just mumble, "Aw shit" and immediately all
> the toilets will flush.

Bwahahaha!

cshenk wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/2019 12:15 AM, wrote:
>>> On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 11:06:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:54:54 -0800 (PST),
>>>> "
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It should have read as 10:30, not 10:00, and what's pathetic
>>>>> about it? It's nice to come home in the evening after dark to
>>>>> a house with a light on in the living room.
>>>>
>>>> Sounds very silly to me.
>>>>
>>> Well, I didn't think it was silly when I worked shift work and in
>>> the winter time I'd always get home well after dark. No fumbling
>>> for a light switch or a lamp. If I'm gone now in the evenings it's
>>> still nice to come home to a light on in the house. Maybe you
>>> don't have electric lights where you live and you have to light a
>>> candle?
>>>
>>
>> In addition to having a light on, I have a couple of night lights
>> too. One in the kitchen, one in each bathroom. One slip or trip can
>> cause serious injury. I'd not want to walk into the bathroom and
>> trip over the towel warmer.
>
> We are of an age that we leave some lights on all the time for that
> reason. Back room and Kitchen. I think it might be a good idea to put
> a nightlight in the main bathroom that auto-activates at dark here.
>

These days, we all have either LED or CFL bulbs, which use very
little electric power, so having at least 1 or 2 lights on make
sense to me.

I have one lamp with an LED that is always on 24/7. It uses about as
much juice as an old time nite light.

Yoose can't ever please druce, so don't bother to try.

On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 7:06:22 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> These days, we all have either LED or CFL bulbs, which use very
> little electric power, so having at least 1 or 2 lights on make
> sense to me.
>
> I have one lamp with an LED that is always on 24/7. It uses about as
> much juice as an old time nite light.
>
> Yoose can't ever please druce, so don't bother to try.
>
I've got one of these in each bathroom. It goes on at dusk and off at dawn
and you can slide the little switch at the bottom to turn it off completely
and also make it as dim or as bright as you like. When I go to bed I just
slide it to the off position. The design could be better as it will partially
cover the bottom receptacle.

https://www.amazon.com/GLOBE-ELECTRI...Z/ref=sr_1_51?

On 11/4/2019 5:53 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...
>>
>> On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:03:23 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> It's a ridiculous idea. I'm sure plenty of "must be connected" people
>>> will buy into it.
>>
>> I very much agree. The only situation where it might be useful is when your
>> hands are both dirty and you want to rinse them off without dirtying the
>> handles, but mine can easily be operated in such situations by elbow.
>>
>> I can see a 'legit' use for this device by people with one hand though.
>
> In UK we already have an Alexa advert that guilts the audience for
> thinking "Gawd, how dumb do you have to be to need that?".
>
> https://lbbonline.com/news/amazon-al...on-bring-us-a-
> morning-ritual/
>
>
>
> Janet UK
>
Whoa, that's a tug on your heart ad! The woman is blind. She might
need to talk to her kitchen faucet. Hopefully the seeing eye-dog in the
commercial knows to put it's water bowl in the sink before she tells the
Alexa connected faucet to fill the bowl. I hope the dog can get the
filled water bowl out of the sink without spilling water all over the
place, too.

Jill

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:44:51 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 7:06:22 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> These days, we all have either LED or CFL bulbs, which use very
>> little electric power, so having at least 1 or 2 lights on make
>> sense to me.
>>
>> I have one lamp with an LED that is always on 24/7. It uses about as
>> much juice as an old time nite light.
>>
>> Yoose can't ever please druce, so don't bother to try.
>>
>I've got one of these in each bathroom. It goes on at dusk and off at dawn
>and you can slide the little switch at the bottom to turn it off completely
>and also make it as dim or as bright as you like. When I go to bed I just
>slide it to the off position.

That's a lot of work. Why don't you automate that? If you move around
too much, you might not get diabetes and that would be very
unpatriotic.

On 11/3/2019 10:29 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 6:03:31 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Delta does make a tap on faucet. When I was looking at more info about
>> silly voice activated faucet, I ran across a youtube video sort of
>> promoting the voice activated faucet. The woman was in her kitchen and
>> said she already had a Delta 'tap on' faucet. She was showing how she
>> could easily upgrade to the voice activated thing. She said of the tap
>> on faucet (I'm paraphrasing): if you have your hands full with a heavy
>> pot, you can tap the faucet with your forehead. Uh, what?! I can't
>> imagine needed to turn on a faucet by bashing my head into it. LOL
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Oh crap, that is toooooo funny!!!!!!!!!! Yesiree, I can just see me wrangling
> a hot as hell pan out of the way so I can bang my head on the faucet to turn
> it on.
>
Washing (or filling a pot) at the sink isn't rocket science. If it's
very heavy, don't carry it to the sink unless you're prepared to set it
*in* the sink. Why would you have to turn on the water by tapping it
with your forehead? It doesn't make any sense. It certainly doesn't
make me want to buy any of this odd technology.

Jill

On 11/4/2019 10:11 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 11/4/2019 12:15 AM, wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 11:06:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:54:54 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> It should have read as 10:30, not 10:00, and what's pathetic about
>>>> it?Â* It's
>>>> nice to come home in the evening after dark to a house with a light
>>>> on in
>>>> the living room.
>>>
>>> Sounds very silly to me.
>>>
>> Well, I didn't think it was silly when I worked shift work and in the
>> winter
>> time I'd always get home well after dark.Â* No fumbling for a light switch
>> or a lamp.Â* If I'm gone now in the evenings it's still nice to come home
>> to a light on in the house.Â* Maybe you don't have electric lights where
>> you live and you have to light a candle?
>>
>
> In addition to having a light on, I have a couple of night lights too.
> One in the kitchen, one in each bathroom.Â* One slip or trip can cause
> serious injury.Â* I'd not want to walk into the bathroom and trip over
> the towel warmer.

Those pesky towel warmers, always on the floor!

I have a bright LED night light in the master bathroom by the sinks.
That's about it. The only thing I have to worry about tripping over if
I get up at night is my cat. I don't wander around the house.

Jill

On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 8:11:12 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:44:51 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >I've got one of these in each bathroom. It goes on at dusk and off at dawn
> >and you can slide the little switch at the bottom to turn it off completely
> >and also make it as dim or as bright as you like. When I go to bed I just
> >slide it to the off position.
>
> That's a lot of work. Why don't you automate that? If you move around
> too much, you might not get diabetes and that would be very
> unpatriotic.
>
Have you been chewing on your wooden shoes again after stepping into fresh
dog shit?? It sure sounds like it.

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 19:06:15 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 8:11:12 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:44:51 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I've got one of these in each bathroom. It goes on at dusk and off at dawn
>> >and you can slide the little switch at the bottom to turn it off completely
>> >and also make it as dim or as bright as you like. When I go to bed I just
>> >slide it to the off position.
>>
>> That's a lot of work. Why don't you automate that? If you move around
>> too much, you might not get diabetes and that would be very
>> unpatriotic.
>>
>Have you been chewing on your wooden shoes again after stepping into fresh
>dog shit?? It sure sounds like it.

Kangaroo shit more likely. But no, I leave my clogs (crocs actually)
outside the door.

On 11/4/2019 8:44 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 7:06:22 PM UTC-6, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> These days, we all have either LED or CFL bulbs, which use very
>> little electric power, so having at least 1 or 2 lights on make
>> sense to me.
>>
>> I have one lamp with an LED that is always on 24/7. It uses about as
>> much juice as an old time nite light.
>>
>> Yoose can't ever please druce, so don't bother to try.
>>
> I've got one of these in each bathroom. It goes on at dusk and off at dawn
> and you can slide the little switch at the bottom to turn it off completely
> and also make it as dim or as bright as you like. When I go to bed I just
> slide it to the off position. The design could be better as it will partially
> cover the bottom receptacle.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/GLOBE-ELECTRI...Z/ref=sr_1_51?
>

That's a bit fancier than mine. They are perfect here, but won't work
in Australia. Their electricity flows in the opposite direction and it
would make the room darker south of the equator.

On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 9:36:43 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 11/4/2019 8:44 PM, wrote:
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/GLOBE-ELECTRI...Z/ref=sr_1_51?
> >
>
> That's a bit fancier than mine. They are perfect here, but won't work
> in Australia. Their electricity flows in the opposite direction and it
> would make the room darker south of the equator.
>
I got mine at either Home Depot or Lowe's but couldn't find them at the H.D.
website so I searched Amazon.

That's interesting about these not working in Australia. Interesting because
I did not know they even had electricity. But I did hear we here in the USA
are working on a 10,000 mile long extension cord to reach Oz.

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 11/4/2019 12:15 AM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 3, 2019 at 11:06:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 20:54:54 -0800 (PST),
> > > "
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It should have read as 10:30, not 10:00, and what's pathetic
> > > > about it? It's nice to come home in the evening after dark to
> > > > a house with a light on in the living room.
> > >
> > > Sounds very silly to me.
> > >
> > Well, I didn't think it was silly when I worked shift work and in
> > the winter time I'd always get home well after dark. No fumbling
> > for a light switch or a lamp. If I'm gone now in the evenings it's
> > still nice to come home to a light on in the house. Maybe you
> > don't have electric lights where you live and you have to light a
> > candle?
> >
>
> In addition to having a light on, I have a couple of night lights
> too. One in the kitchen, one in each bathroom. One slip or trip can
> cause serious injury. I'd not want to walk into the bathroom and
> trip over the towel warmer.

We are of an age that we leave some lights on all the time for that
reason. Back room and Kitchen. I think it might be a good idea to put
a nightlight in the main bathroom that auto-activates at dark here.

---

We have those in the skirting boards in our halls. Excellent!

On Tuesday, November 5, 2019 at 9:25:42 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > I have a bright LED night light in the master bathroom by the sinks.
>
> Ah, you have 2 sinks in the master bath. I don't see those so
> often anymore.
>
> The house I grew up in had 3 second floor bathrooms and all had
> the double sink deal. One wall in each had wall-to-wall
> countertop with 2 sinks.
>
> Fancy but worthless, imo. There were 5 of us and I don't
> ever recall two of us in the same bathroom at the same
> time using a separate sink.

My husband grew up with five brothers sharing one bathroom with
two sinks. I imagine those two sinks were in simultaneous use
at least some of the time.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >,
says...
>
> On 11/4/2019 5:53 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >,
> > says...
> >>
> >> On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:03:23 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >>> It's a ridiculous idea. I'm sure plenty of "must be connected" people
> >>> will buy into it.
> >>
> >> I very much agree. The only situation where it might be useful is when your
> >> hands are both dirty and you want to rinse them off without dirtying the
> >> handles, but mine can easily be operated in such situations by elbow.
> >>
> >> I can see a 'legit' use for this device by people with one hand though.
> >
> > In UK we already have an Alexa advert that guilts the audience for
> > thinking "Gawd, how dumb do you have to be to need that?".
> >
> > https://lbbonline.com/news/amazon-al...on-bring-us-a-
> > morning-ritual/
> >
> >
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> Whoa, that's a tug on your heart ad! The woman is blind. She might
> need to talk to her kitchen faucet. Hopefully the seeing eye-dog in the
> commercial knows to put it's water bowl in the sink before she tells the
> Alexa connected faucet to fill the bowl. I hope the dog can get the
> filled water bowl out of the sink without spilling water all over the
> place, too.

It would be most convenient for pet owners if pets had their own
tap/faucet down near the floor, voice-operated by a bark or mewing, and
could just help themselves to fresh water, bath themselves, and mop the
floor after.

Janet UK

On 11/5/2019 9:25 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> I have a bright LED night light in the master bathroom by the sinks.
>
> Ah, you have 2 sinks in the master bath. I don't see those so
> often anymore.
>
> The house I grew up in had 3 second floor bathrooms and all had
> the double sink deal. One wall in each had wall-to-wall
> countertop with 2 sinks.
>
> Fancy but worthless, imo. There were 5 of us and I don't
> ever recall two of us in the same bathroom at the same
> time using a separate sink.
>

Master bath with 2 sinks seems to be a big thing these days. I've
watched some of the shows like House Hunter and most people want them.

Buying the Goat Barn here, we had many choices of options and the sales
person said if you do nothing else, get the double sinks for the ease of
resale. I did, but is was pretty much a waste, IMO. We liked the other
options we got, dual shower heads and controls, light in the shower, etc.

In the other bath, instead of a tub we have a 60" walk in shower. Only
get used by guests though. I used it once just to check it out.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> My husband grew up with five brothers sharing one bathroom with
> two sinks. I imagine those two sinks were in simultaneous use
> at least some of the time.

Yeah, I imagine those two sinks might have been used at the
same time with 5 boys. The toilet in that situation might
have caused a conflict occasionally though.

Those 2 sinks could have doubled as urinals though
in emergency situations. ;-D

On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 at 9:53:19 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > My husband grew up with five brothers sharing one bathroom with
> > two sinks. I imagine those two sinks were in simultaneous use
> > at least some of the time.
>
> Yeah, I imagine those two sinks might have been used at the
> same time with 5 boys. The toilet in that situation might
> have caused a conflict occasionally though.

There was another half-bath on the first floor.

> Those 2 sinks could have doubled as urinals though
> in emergency situations. ;-D

Or the bathtub.

Cindy Hamilton