On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 4:26:21 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:20:42 PM UTC-6, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> > I've had cornbread and oyster dressing. It wasn't something I would
> > want again
> > Janet US
> >
> I'm not an oyster fan and probably never will be but oysters in dressing
> truly sounds disgusting to me. I know a lot of people make this but I'm
> afraid I'd have to refuse my portion, politely though, if I were at their
> table.

I've never had oyster dressing, but I sure would eat it up. To me it sounds good. I've only had raw oysters before as well as smoked oysters from a can. The raw oysters, I can live without. But they sure have potential when they are cooked, fried. Smoked oysters are too salty for me these days, but they are good on a rye bread with thinly sliced onions.

On 12/5/2019 1:40 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 08:11:18 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 12/4/2019 7:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 12/4/2019 5:50 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:40:51 PM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are two corn bread recipes on the Albers' web site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Starts with 1 cup Albers® Yellow Corn
>>>>>>> Meal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 cup cornmeal, 1 cup all-purpose flour, 1/4 cup granulated sugar,
>>>>>>> 1 Tbsp
>>>>>>> baking powder, 1 tsp salt,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> leo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything.Â* I have baking powder
>>>>> and baking soda.Â* It's the work of a few seconds to add it to the other
>>>>> dry ingredients.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for?Â* Stock both kinds?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>> I agree with you there, Cindy.Â* I've never bought self-rising cornmeal
>>>> (or self-rising flour, for that matter).
>>>
>>> Me either.
>>
>> Thanks, Julie! It may sound like I'm stereotyping, but self-rising
>> seems to be a "Southern" thing. (Hey, I live in the Southern US.) I've
>> never bought self-rising anything. It's easy enough to add the rising
>> ingredients if needed. Leave them out if not.
>>
>> Jill
>
> the only time I bought self rising flour was for a batter (don't
> remember what I was battering). I do remember that the batter turned
> out better than anything I had tried before. I didn't get that flour
> again because it was a long time before I fried anything again and I
> figured that the oomph was gone from the flour
> Janet US
>
Yeah, the oomph probably would go out of SR flour after a while. As it
is, I don't buy flour in large quantities. I store what I do have in
the freezer. Keeps the bugs out. I've definitely never bought
self-rising cornmeal. It's probably available, I just don't look for it.

Jill

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:23:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> > > >> > > On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
> > > >> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy
> > > >> Hamilton > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have
> > > >> baking > > >> powder
> > > >> > > >> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to
> > > >> the > > >> other
> > > >> > > >> dry ingredients.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock both
> > > >> > > >> kinds?
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > > Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
> > > >> self-rising > > > flour or
> > > >> > > > cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to add
> > > >> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal? That's like buying
> > > >> powdered > > > milk to drink
> > > >> > > > and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the
> > > >> > > > store.
> > > >> > > > incorporated into either
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP and
> > > >> bread
> > > >> > > flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour is
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > widely
> > > >> > > available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
> > > >> > > Graham
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK. Why did
> > > >> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but mostly it
> > > >> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South? Beats
> > > >> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was introduced
> > > >> in
> > > >> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I should
> > > >> try
> > > >> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
> > > >> shortening)
> > > >> mixed in. It's not the same as self-rising flour.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both products
> > > > was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have a couple
> > > > of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread mix. As
> > > > it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I know
> > > > it's
> > > > not the same thing as SR flour.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > That looks nice.
> > > >
> > > I can't tell what the heck it is.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
> > mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
> > it has mercifully passed from my memory.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Blueberry pancakes with coconut syrup is too hard for your brain to process?
> What are you - some kind of commie pinko *******? That Hawaiian Sun coconut
> syrup is pretty tasty and as an added bonus, it contains a hefty dose of
> TiO2! OTOH, for you boring/unimaginative types, I can also make plain
> pancakes so you don't have to pitch a fit.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
>
> ===
>
> I would prefer them with the topping you showed in your previous pic)

At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:53:09 PM UTC-10, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:23:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> > > > >> > > On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
> > > > >> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy
> > > > >> Hamilton > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > > >>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > >> > > >>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have
> > > > >> baking > > >> powder
> > > > >> > > >> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to
> > > > >> the > > >> other
> > > > >> > > >> dry ingredients.
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock both
> > > > >> > > >> kinds?
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > > Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
> > > > >> self-rising > > > flour or
> > > > >> > > > cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to add
> > > > >> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal? That's like buying
> > > > >> powdered > > > milk to drink
> > > > >> > > > and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the
> > > > >> > > > store.
> > > > >> > > > incorporated into either
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP and
> > > > >> bread
> > > > >> > > flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour is
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > widely
> > > > >> > > available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
> > > > >> > > Graham
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK. Why did
> > > > >> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but mostly it
> > > > >> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South? Beats
> > > > >> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was introduced
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I should
> > > > >> try
> > > > >> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
> > > > >> shortening)
> > > > >> mixed in. It's not the same as self-rising flour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > > I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both products
> > > > > was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have a couple
> > > > > of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread mix. As
> > > > > it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I know
> > > > > it's
> > > > > not the same thing as SR flour.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ===
> > > > >
> > > > > That looks nice.
> > > > >
> > > > I can't tell what the heck it is.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
> > > mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
> > > it has mercifully passed from my memory.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Blueberry pancakes with coconut syrup is too hard for your brain to process?
> > What are you - some kind of commie pinko *******? That Hawaiian Sun coconut
> > syrup is pretty tasty and as an added bonus, it contains a hefty dose of
> > TiO2! OTOH, for you boring/unimaginative types, I can also make plain
> > pancakes so you don't have to pitch a fit.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I would prefer them with the topping you showed in your previous pic)
>
> At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0

Oops - wrong picture!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...AI7zC-ELCKeRDa

On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 15:18:29 -0800 (PST), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:53:09 PM UTC-10, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> > "dsi1" wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:23:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> > > > On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
>> > > > > ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > > >> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>> > > > >> > > On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
>> > > > >> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy
>> > > > >> Hamilton > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > > >>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > > >>>
>> > > > >> > > >>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>> > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > >> > > >> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have
>> > > > >> baking > > >> powder
>> > > > >> > > >> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to
>> > > > >> the > > >> other
>> > > > >> > > >> dry ingredients.
>> > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > >> > > >> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock both
>> > > > >> > > >> kinds?
>> > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > >> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
>> > > > >> > > >>
>> > > > >> > > > Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
>> > > > >> self-rising > > > flour or
>> > > > >> > > > cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to add
>> > > > >> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal? That's like buying
>> > > > >> powdered > > > milk to drink
>> > > > >> > > > and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the
>> > > > >> > > > store.
>> > > > >> > > > incorporated into either
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > > I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP and
>> > > > >> bread
>> > > > >> > > flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour is
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > widely
>> > > > >> > > available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
>> > > > >> > > Graham
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK. Why did
>> > > > >> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but mostly it
>> > > > >> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South? Beats
>> > > > >> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was introduced
>> > > > >> in
>> > > > >> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I should
>> > > > >> try
>> > > > >> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
>> > > > >> shortening)
>> > > > >> mixed in. It's not the same as self-rising flour.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Cindy Hamilton
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both products
>> > > > > was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have a couple
>> > > > > of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread mix. As
>> > > > > it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I know
>> > > > > it's
>> > > > > not the same thing as SR flour.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > ===
>> > > > >
>> > > > > That looks nice.
>> > > > >
>> > > > I can't tell what the heck it is.
>> > > >
>> > > > Jill
>> > >
>> > > Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
>> > > mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
>> > > it has mercifully passed from my memory.
>> > >
>> > > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> > Blueberry pancakes with coconut syrup is too hard for your brain to process?
>> > What are you - some kind of commie pinko *******? That Hawaiian Sun coconut
>> > syrup is pretty tasty and as an added bonus, it contains a hefty dose of
>> > TiO2! OTOH, for you boring/unimaginative types, I can also make plain
>> > pancakes so you don't have to pitch a fit.
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> > I would prefer them with the topping you showed in your previous pic)
>>
>> At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
>
>Oops - wrong picture!

Don't worry, not many people would have gotten all the way down here.

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:38:39 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Yeah, the oomph probably would go out of SR flour after a while. As it
> is, I don't buy flour in large quantities. I store what I do have in
> the freezer. Keeps the bugs out. I've definitely never bought
> self-rising cornmeal. It's probably available, I just don't look for it.
>
> Jill
>
I only buy 2 pound bags of self-rising flour and it stays in one of those
Tupperware canisters that has the 'pleated' lid. I also only buy self-
rising cornmeal in 2 pound bags but it definitely stays in the freezer
as corn has a bit of fat and it will go kinda rancid.

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 4:53:09 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
>
I don't see any macaroni but I'd definitely give them a taste.

There's a regional, I guess, pizza joint here and they make a macaroni and
cheese pizza. First time I heard of it and then saw it I thought there's
some stupid people fiddling with the pizzas. But I tried one slice and oh
my gosh! How good it was!!

They also make a spinach alfredo pizza and I must confess, it's close to
being my favorite one at this eatery. I mean, what's not to like about
alfredo sauce??

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:18:32 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> Oops - wrong picture!
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...AI7zC-ELCKeRDa
>
Yes, I'd give it a go!

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 1:36:27 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 4:53:09 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
> >
> I don't see any macaroni but I'd definitely give them a taste.
>
> There's a regional, I guess, pizza joint here and they make a macaroni and
> cheese pizza. First time I heard of it and then saw it I thought there's
> some stupid people fiddling with the pizzas. But I tried one slice and oh
> my gosh! How good it was!!
>
> They also make a spinach alfredo pizza and I must confess, it's close to
> being my favorite one at this eatery. I mean, what's not to like about
> alfredo sauce??

Well, macaroni is Italian and cheese goes great with pizza so maybe that's just crazy enough to work! It's pizza for a new age.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:18:40 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:23:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy
>>>>>> Hamilton > > > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > > >>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything.Â* I have
>>>>>> baking > > >> powder
>>>>>>>>>> and baking soda.Â* It's the work of a few seconds to add it to
>>>>>> the > > >> other
>>>>>>>>>> dry ingredients.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for?Â* Stock both
>>>>>>>>>> kinds?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
>>>>>> self-rising > > > flour or
>>>>>>>>> cornmeal.Â* But why buy and store separate ingredients to add
>>>>>> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal?Â* That's like buying
>>>>>> powdered > > > milk to drink
>>>>>>>>> and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the store.
>>>>>>>>> incorporated into either
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP and
>>>>>> bread
>>>>>>>> flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour is >
>>>>>>> widely
>>>>>>>> available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
>>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK. Why did
>>>>>> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but mostly it
>>>>>> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South? Beats
>>>>>> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was introduced in
>>>>>> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I should try
>>>>>> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
>>>>>> shortening)
>>>>>> mixed in.Â* It's not the same as self-rising flour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both products
>>>>> was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have a couple
>>>>> of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread mix. As
>>>>> it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I know it's
>>>>> not the same thing as SR flour.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Â* That looks nice.
>>>>>
>>>> I can't tell what the heck it is.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
>>> mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
>>> it has mercifully passed from my memory.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Blueberry pancakes with coconut syrup is too hard for your brain to process?
>
> Not difficult to process; I just forgot what that stuff is. It's
> frighteningly white. That's the titanium dioxide.
>
> It tastes of coconut, doesn't it? That's a non-starter for me.
> I like unsweetened coconut but my tolerance for sweetened coconut
> is pretty much limited to German's Chocolate Cake, where the coconut
> is a grace note rather than the melody.
>
> Maple syrup for me, although I much prefer waffles or french toast
> to pancakes.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

Amen.

On 12/5/2019 6:31 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:38:39 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, the oomph probably would go out of SR flour after a while. As it
>> is, I don't buy flour in large quantities. I store what I do have in
>> the freezer. Keeps the bugs out. I've definitely never bought
>> self-rising cornmeal. It's probably available, I just don't look for it.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> I only buy 2 pound bags of self-rising flour and it stays in one of those
> Tupperware canisters that has the 'pleated' lid. I also only buy self-
> rising cornmeal in 2 pound bags but it definitely stays in the freezer
> as corn has a bit of fat and it will go kinda rancid.
>
Yep, I buy 2 lb. bags. Plain flour. Ditto cornmeal. I store both of
them in the freezer. Neither one is self-rising.

Jill

dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:23:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy
>>>>>> Hamilton > > > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > > >>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have
>>>>>> baking > > >> powder
>>>>>>>>>> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to
>>>>>> the > > >> other
>>>>>>>>>> dry ingredients.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock both
>>>>>>>>>> kinds?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
>>>>>> self-rising > > > flour or
>>>>>>>>> cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to add
>>>>>> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal? That's like buying
>>>>>> powdered > > > milk to drink
>>>>>>>>> and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the
>>>>>>>>> store.
>>>>>>>>> incorporated into either
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP and
>>>>>> bread
>>>>>>>> flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour is
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> widely
>>>>>>>> available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
>>>>>>>> Graham
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK. Why did
>>>>>> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but mostly it
>>>>>> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South? Beats
>>>>>> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was introduced
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I should
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
>>>>>> shortening)
>>>>>> mixed in. It's not the same as self-rising flour.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both products
>>>>> was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have a couple
>>>>> of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread mix. As
>>>>> it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I know
>>>>> it's
>>>>> not the same thing as SR flour.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> That looks nice.
>>>>>
>>>> I can't tell what the heck it is.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
>>> mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
>>> it has mercifully passed from my memory.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> Blueberry pancakes with coconut syrup is too hard for your brain to process?
>> What are you - some kind of commie pinko *******? That Hawaiian Sun coconut
>> syrup is pretty tasty and as an added bonus, it contains a hefty dose of
>> TiO2! OTOH, for you boring/unimaginative types, I can also make plain
>> pancakes so you don't have to pitch a fit.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I would prefer them with the topping you showed in your previous pic)
>
> At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
>

You have to put pineapple chunks in coconut pancakes, just like
pizza. Everyone knows that.

Macaroni or spaghetti is good in rock style pancakes, if you add
some papaya and hawaiian shoyu soy sauce.

On my rock, we are very special people, so we dress up this old
boring polynesian dish by adding a few shrimp and slices of jewish
kosher pastrami. Some folks add german liver cheese.

We serve it up with a large slice of watermelon and a tall frosty
glass of crystal palace.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/4/2019 7:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/4/2019 5:50 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 2:40:51 PM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are two corn bread recipes on the Albers' web site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starts with 1 cup Albers® Yellow Corn
>>>>>> Meal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 cup cornmeal, 1 cup all-purpose flour, 1/4 cup granulated sugar, 1
>>>>>> Tbsp
>>>>>> baking powder, 1 tsp salt,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leo
>>>>>>
>>>>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>>>>
>>>> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have baking powder
>>>> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to the other
>>>> dry ingredients.
>>>>
>>>> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock both kinds?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> I agree with you there, Cindy. I've never bought self-rising cornmeal
>>> (or self-rising flour, for that matter).
>>
>> Me either.
>
> Thanks, Julie! It may sound like I'm stereotyping, but self-rising seems
> to be a "Southern" thing. (Hey, I live in the Southern US.) I've never
> bought self-rising anything. It's easy enough to add the rising
> ingredients if needed. Leave them out if not.

I bought some cake flour many years ago for a specific recipe. I think it
was self rising. But I never bought anything else that was self rising.

"A Moose in Love" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 3:33:28 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 6:19:49 AM UTC-10, A Moose in Love wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:13:57 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:08:45 AM UTC-5, A Moose in Love
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:23:00 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > > On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > > > Hamilton wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10,
> > > > > > >> > graham
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6,
> > > > > > >> > > > Cindy
> > > > > > >> Hamilton > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > >
> > > > > > >> > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > > > >> > > >>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I
> > > > > > >> > > >> have
> > > > > > >> baking > > >> powder
> > > > > > >> > > >> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to
> > > > > > >> > > >> add
> > > > > > >> > > >> it to
> > > > > > >> the > > >> other
> > > > > > >> > > >> dry ingredients.
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for?
> > > > > > >> > > >> Stock both
> > > > > > >> > > >> kinds?
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > >> > > >>
> > > > > > >> > > > Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
> > > > > > >> self-rising > > > flour or
> > > > > > >> > > > cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients
> > > > > > >> > > > to
> > > > > > >> > > > add
> > > > > > >> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal? That's like
> > > > > > >> buying
> > > > > > >> powdered > > > milk to drink
> > > > > > >> > > > and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at
> > > > > > >> > > > the store.
> > > > > > >> > > > incorporated into either
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake,
> > > > > > >> > > AP and
> > > > > > >> bread
> > > > > > >> > > flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR
> > > > > > >> > > flour is >
> > > > > > >> > widely
> > > > > > >> > > available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
> > > > > > >> > > Graham
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK.
> > > > > > >> > Why
> > > > > > >> > did
> > > > > > >> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but
> > > > > > >> mostly it
> > > > > > >> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South?
> > > > > > >> Beats
> > > > > > >> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was
> > > > > > >> introduced in
> > > > > > >> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I
> > > > > > >> should try
> > > > > > >> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated
> > > > > > >> vegetable
> > > > > > >> shortening)
> > > > > > >> mixed in. It's not the same as self-rising flour.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both
> > > > > > > products
> > > > > > > was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > couple
> > > > > > > of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread
> > > > > > > mix. As
> > > > > > > it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I
> > > > > > > know it's
> > > > > > > not the same thing as SR flour.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ===
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That looks nice.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > I can't tell what the heck it is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jill
> > > > >
> > > > > Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
> > > > > mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
> > > > > it has mercifully passed from my memory.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > I'm a vulgarian, so I don't think you would like to think what I
> > > > think
> > > > about the topping. I really like vulgar humour, although if I
> > > > continued with this post, I'd probably be banned from here.
> > >
> > > I know exactly what you're thinking about. It's too white for that.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > I'm glad you didn't take offense.
>
> Well I sure do take offense. After all, that's my sperm you're talking
> about!
>
> ===
>
> None of those nasty descriptions occurred to me. Saddoes

That's because you're not a vulgarian. Kudos to you. And to me. It's just
joking around, that's the way I see it.

====

Sorry but disgusting comments in a food group about things people have
cooked ... not acceptable. And you were not alone!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:23:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > > On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
> > > >> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy
> > > >> Hamilton > > > wrote:
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > > >>>
> > > >> > > >>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have
> > > >> baking > > >> powder
> > > >> > > >> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it
> > > >> > > >> to
> > > >> the > > >> other
> > > >> > > >> dry ingredients.
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock
> > > >> > > >> both
> > > >> > > >> kinds?
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > >> > > >>
> > > >> > > > Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
> > > >> self-rising > > > flour or
> > > >> > > > cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to add
> > > >> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal? That's like
> > > >> buying
> > > >> powdered > > > milk to drink
> > > >> > > > and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the
> > > >> > > > store.
> > > >> > > > incorporated into either
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP
> > > >> > > and
> > > >> bread
> > > >> > > flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour
> > > >> > > is
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > widely
> > > >> > > available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
> > > >> > > Graham
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK. Why did
> > > >> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but mostly
> > > >> it
> > > >> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South? Beats
> > > >> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was introduced
> > > >> in
> > > >> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I should
> > > >> try
> > > >> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
> > > >>
> > > >> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
> > > >> shortening)
> > > >> mixed in. It's not the same as self-rising flour.
> > > >>
> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > >
> > > > I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both
> > > > products
> > > > was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have a
> > > > couple
> > > > of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread mix.
> > > > As
> > > > it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I know
> > > > it's
> > > > not the same thing as SR flour.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > That looks nice.
> > > >
> > > I can't tell what the heck it is.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
> > mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
> > it has mercifully passed from my memory.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> Blueberry pancakes with coconut syrup is too hard for your brain to
> process?
> What are you - some kind of commie pinko *******? That Hawaiian Sun
> coconut
> syrup is pretty tasty and as an added bonus, it contains a hefty dose of
> TiO2! OTOH, for you boring/unimaginative types, I can also make plain
> pancakes so you don't have to pitch a fit.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
>
> ===
>
> I would prefer them with the topping you showed in your previous
> pic)

At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese
pancakes. God forgive me!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0

===

Lol you will be in trouble now!!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:53:09 PM UTC-10, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:33:28 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 5:23:00 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > > > On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy
> > > > > Hamilton
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10, graham
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> > > On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
> > > > >> > > > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy
> > > > >> Hamilton > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5, > > >>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > > >>>
> > > > >> > > >>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have
> > > > >> baking > > >> powder
> > > > >> > > >> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it
> > > > >> > > >> to
> > > > >> the > > >> other
> > > > >> > > >> dry ingredients.
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock
> > > > >> > > >> both
> > > > >> > > >> kinds?
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >> > > >>
> > > > >> > > > Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non
> > > > >> self-rising > > > flour or
> > > > >> > > > cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to
> > > > >> > > > add
> > > > >> when > > > they're already in flour or cornmeal? That's like
> > > > >> buying
> > > > >> powdered > > > milk to drink
> > > > >> > > > and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the
> > > > >> > > > store.
> > > > >> > > > incorporated into either
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP
> > > > >> > > and
> > > > >> bread
> > > > >> > > flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour
> > > > >> > > is
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > widely
> > > > >> > > available and is in the pantry of every home baker.
> > > > >> > > Graham
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > I believe you. Self-rising flour was invented in the UK. Why
> > > > >> > did
> > > > >> that > create it? Beats me. It was introduced to the US but
> > > > >> mostly it
> > > > >> was > embraced by the cooks down South. Why mostly the South?
> > > > >> Beats
> > > > >> me. OTOH, > the US has its own dry mix product which was
> > > > >> introduced
> > > > >> in
> > > > >> the 1930s - > Bisquick. It was popular even on this rock. I
> > > > >> should
> > > > >> try
> > > > >> SR flour since > I've heard about it for decades.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
> > > > >> shortening)
> > > > >> mixed in. It's not the same as self-rising flour.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > > > >
> > > > > I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind both
> > > > > products
> > > > > was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I have a
> > > > > couple
> > > > > of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a cornbread
> > > > > mix. As
> > > > > it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that I know
> > > > > it's
> > > > > not the same thing as SR flour.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ===
> > > > >
> > > > > That looks nice.
> > > > >
> > > > I can't tell what the heck it is.
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > >
> > > Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them. I know dsi1
> > > mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
> > > it has mercifully passed from my memory.
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > Blueberry pancakes with coconut syrup is too hard for your brain to
> > process?
> > What are you - some kind of commie pinko *******? That Hawaiian Sun
> > coconut
> > syrup is pretty tasty and as an added bonus, it contains a hefty dose of
> > TiO2! OTOH, for you boring/unimaginative types, I can also make plain
> > pancakes so you don't have to pitch a fit.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I would prefer them with the topping you showed in your previous
> > pic)
>
> At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese
> pancakes. God forgive me!
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5Y2zY0MTBmGzp0

Oops - wrong picture!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...AI7zC-ELCKeRDa

===

Ok I didn't realise that because they are something I have never seen)

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have baking powder
>> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to the other
>> dry ingredients.
>
> Same here, Cindy. I've only used "all-purpose" flour
> and always have on hand baking powder and soda.
>
> I remember long ago in this group, many posters used
> Bisquik often. Same with "pancake mix." Making both from
> scratch is such an easy thing to do.

Oh! I have used Bisquick and the like. Only when I can get it for a good
price.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 12/4/2019 1:50 PM, Leo wrote:
>> On 2019 Dec 3, , wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>>
>> I dont know. I never looked. Ive used the stuff forever, and looking
>> for something new has never occurred to me. I did buy a
>> "cornbread-in-a-box"
>> once from some company. Meh.
>>
>> leo
>>
>>
> Jiffy? Too darn sweet!

Agree.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5,
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>>
>> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have baking powder
>> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to the other
>> dry ingredients.
>>
>> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock both kinds?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non self-rising flour or
> cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to add when they're
> already in flour or cornmeal? That's like buying powdered milk to drink
> and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the store.
> incorporated into either

I make all sorts of things with flour and cornmeal and I don't need the
leavening. Such as pasta or a sprinkling of cornmeal on a pizza crust. I
also keep powdered milk but not for drinking. I only buy milk when I know
specifically in advance that I'll be using it for cooking or baking.

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-12-04 2:59 p.m., wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 4:50:35 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 5:11:43 PM UTC-5,
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Do they not offer a self-rising cornmeal?
>>>
>>> I've never seen the point in self-rising anything. I have baking powder
>>> and baking soda. It's the work of a few seconds to add it to the other
>>> dry ingredients.
>>>
>>> What do you do when non-self-rising is called for? Stock both kinds?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Well, since I'm not a baker, I don't buy or store non self-rising flour
>> or
>> cornmeal. But why buy and store separate ingredients to add when they're
>> already in flour or cornmeal? That's like buying powdered milk to drink
>> and having to mix it when you can buy milk in a jug at the store.
>> incorporated into either
>>
> I can understand that. I am a baker and I stock SR, cake, AP and bread
> flours as well as baking powder and soda. In the UK, SR flour is widely
> available and is in the pantry of every home baker.

I don't think it's very common here.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
> >me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
> >someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.
>
> I've had cornbread and oyster dressing. It wasn't something I would
> want again

I was a guest for Thanksgiving dinner one year and his wife
made oyster stuffing/dressing. Don't think it was cornbread
though. I think I might have noticed that.

Anyway, this was amazingly tasty. I loved it.
Next year, I made my own but just winged it, no recipe.
This was in the mid-70's - long before Google.
I made my normal stuffing (good) and added some fresh
opened oysters.

I cut up the oysters and also added all the juice (liquor)
from the shells. Result: WAY too overpowering oyster taste.

I learned later that I should have kept the oyster meat to
a minimum and never add the liquor. Too much of a good thing.

I never tried again though. Best to stick to my 'tried and true'.

jmcquown wrote:
> Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.

Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
You should know better than to say that.

I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.

"itsjoan wrote:
> I'm not an oyster fan and probably never will be but oysters in dressing
> truly sounds disgusting to me. I know a lot of people make this but I'm
> afraid I'd have to refuse my portion, politely though, if I were at their
> table.

Rather than refuse to taste, you should try "just one bite."
It might surprise you.

As my daughter grew up, and I made something new, she would
often refuse just because it didn't sound good to her.

We came to a compromise. The "one bite rule."
Just take one bite and if you don't like it, I'll never
serve it to you again. Worked well.

Interestingly, on average, she ended up actually liking what
she tried about 6-7 times out of 10.

She's age 40 now and she does that with her two young kids.

A Moose in Love wrote:
> I've never had oyster dressing, but I sure would eat it up.
> To me it sounds good.

Made right, it can be good.

> I've only had raw oysters before as well as smoked oysters
> from a can. The raw oysters, I can live without.

Never had canned oysters. Only fresh live ones that I kill
right before eating. I don't care for raw either. Most
seafood benefits from a bit of cooking.

One thing that's always annoyed me are those contests
'How many can you eat in a certain time frame'
Usually drunken ppl at a bar doing this.
They just swallow the entire thing down in one gulp and
not chewing and savoring the flavor.
So sad that all those living creatures die just for a contest.

> But they sure have potential when they are cooked, fried.

Imo, each step of cooking makes them better.

I've had them just "steamed in shell" and they are tasty.
Once steamed open by placing them on a grill at a party.

Several times, I've been hiking around the shoreline and
at low tide (with easy access to oysters). I'd dig a little
pit in the sand and start a small fire. Get it going for
awhile then let it burn down to coals. While the fire is
going, I'd wade out into shallow water and harvest a few
oysters. Come back and set them on the hot coals to steam
open and....very tasty.

For the best oysters (AND clams) imo, open them live,
remove from shell, batter them whole and deep fry just
until the batter browns nicely. It doesn't get much
better than that.

dsi1 wrote:
> At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!
>
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...AI7zC-ELCKeRDa


OK there PAL! That's sounds just a bit more than weird.
WTH were you thinking? ;-D
I'll check out your pic on my better computer soon.
(the annoying laptop)

How did they turn out? Any topping on them?

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:33:53 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> "itsjoan wrote:
> > I'm not an oyster fan and probably never will be but oysters in dressing
> > truly sounds disgusting to me. I know a lot of people make this but I'm
> > afraid I'd have to refuse my portion, politely though, if I were at their
> > table.
>
> Rather than refuse to taste, you should try "just one bite."
> It might surprise you.

None of us here is a child. After eating and tasting for 62 years,
I can pretty much tell from the ingredients whether I'll like
something.

Cindy Hamilton

"Gary" wrote in message ...

"itsjoan wrote:
> I'm not an oyster fan and probably never will be but oysters in dressing
> truly sounds disgusting to me. I know a lot of people make this but I'm
> afraid I'd have to refuse my portion, politely though, if I were at their
> table.

Rather than refuse to taste, you should try "just one bite."
It might surprise you.

As my daughter grew up, and I made something new, she would
often refuse just because it didn't sound good to her.

We came to a compromise. The "one bite rule."
Just take one bite and if you don't like it, I'll never
serve it to you again. Worked well.

Interestingly, on average, she ended up actually liking what
she tried about 6-7 times out of 10.

She's age 40 now and she does that with her two young kids.

==

Excellent)))

On 12/6/2019 8:33 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
>
> Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
> You should know better than to say that.
>
> I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.
>
Hey, I love coconut. I can't begin to tell you how much coconut I've
eaten in my lifetime. Sometimes picked right out of the freshly cracked
nut itself after drinking the "milk". I think it's fair to say I know
my own tastebuds.

Jill

On 12/6/2019 9:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:33:53 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> "itsjoan wrote:
>>> I'm not an oyster fan and probably never will be but oysters in dressing
>>> truly sounds disgusting to me. I know a lot of people make this but I'm
>>> afraid I'd have to refuse my portion, politely though, if I were at their
>>> table.
>>
>> Rather than refuse to taste, you should try "just one bite."
>> It might surprise you.
>
> None of us here is a child. After eating and tasting for 62 years,
> I can pretty much tell from the ingredients whether I'll like
> something.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Exactly. I think most of us grew up with the "just one bite" rule.
We're adults now, we can pretty much guess what we still do or don't
like. An example: many people here dislike brussels sprouts. Trying
just one bite all these years later likely won't change their minds, nor
do I expect it to.

Jill

On 12/5/2019 3:29 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
> ...
>
>> On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 11:13:57 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > wrote:
>> > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 10:23:00 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton
>> > > wrote:
>> > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 9:34:12 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> > > > > On 12/5/2019 9:31 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> > > > > > "dsi1"Â* wrote in message
>> > > > > > ...
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thursday, December 5, 2019 at 12:48:49 AM UTC-10, Cindy >
>> > > > > Hamilton wrote:
>> > > > > >> On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-5, dsi1
>> wrote:
>> > > > > >> > On Wednesday, December 4, 2019 at 12:37:42 PM UTC-10,
>> graham > > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > > >> Bisquick already has the fat (partially hydrogenated vegetable
>> > > > > >> shortening)
>> > > > > >> mixed in.Â* It's not the same as self-rising flour.
>> > > > > >>
>> > > > > >> Cindy Hamilton
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I never said that it was the same thing. The idea behind
>> both > > > > > products
>> > > > > > was to shorten the time that it took to make biscuits. I
>> have a > > > > > couple
>> > > > > > of dry mix products that I use - a pancake mix and a
>> cornbread > > > > > mix. As
>> > > > > > it goes, these products work brilliantly. Rest assured that
>> I > > > > > know it's
>> > > > > > not the same thing as SR flour.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...wEy6KBgKPkRuPU
>>
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ===
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Â*Â*Â* That looks nice.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > I can't tell what the heck it is.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jill
>> > > >
>> > > > Pancakes with some godawful white goo on them.Â* I know dsi1
>> > > > mentioned once what they use on pancakes on his rock, but
>> > > > it has mercifully passed from my memory.
>> > > >
>> > > > Cindy Hamilton
>> > >
>> > I know exactly what you're thinking about.Â* It's too white for
>> that.Â*
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> I'm glad you didn't take offense.
>
> Well I sure do take offense. After all, that's my sperm you're talking
> about!
>
> ===
>
> Â* None of those nasty descriptions occurred to me. Saddoes
>
What are you critizing Cindy for? dsi1 is the one who encouraged the
sperm description. Apparently it's coconut syrup. All I said was I
couldn't tell what the heck it was a picture of and wham, everyone went
nuts! It looked like some sort of white icing to me.

Jill

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 9:47:43 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/6/2019 9:07 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:33:53 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >> "itsjoan wrote:
> >>> I'm not an oyster fan and probably never will be but oysters in dressing
> >>> truly sounds disgusting to me. I know a lot of people make this but I'm
> >>> afraid I'd have to refuse my portion, politely though, if I were at their
> >>> table.
> >>
> >> Rather than refuse to taste, you should try "just one bite."
> >> It might surprise you.
> >
> > None of us here is a child. After eating and tasting for 62 years,
> > I can pretty much tell from the ingredients whether I'll like
> > something.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Exactly. I think most of us grew up with the "just one bite" rule.
> We're adults now, we can pretty much guess what we still do or don't
> like. An example: many people here dislike brussels sprouts. Trying
> just one bite all these years later likely won't change their minds, nor
> do I expect it to.
>
> Jill

I've always loved the idea of Brussel Sprouts, but to me they have a bitter flavor I can not get around.

John Kuthe...

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> > Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
>
> Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
> You should know better than to say that.
>
> I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.

I was not aware that coconut syrup was unheard of in the states. Nor did I know that coconut doesn't belong on pancakes. People on the mainland have so many food rules. I'm guessing that coconut doesn't belong in pies and neither does sweet potato. Good thing we don't have any such restrictions on the rock.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...pg-T9ta2HSfp1l

OTOH, we'll probably soon have a restriction on plastic forks, knives, and spoons, in fast food joints soon. It appears that everybody's going to have to learn to use chopsticks. 100% compliance.

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:41:31 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > At the risk of creating a riot, I confess to making macaroni and cheese pancakes. God forgive me!
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...AI7zC-ELCKeRDa
>
>
> OK there PAL! That's sounds just a bit more than weird.
> WTH were you thinking? ;-D
> I'll check out your pic on my better computer soon.
> (the annoying laptop)
>
> How did they turn out? Any topping on them?

They turned out just spiffy. I'll make them if there happens to be some mac and cheese in the fridge. I just eat them with maple syrup. Maybe it's real maple, maybe it's the fake stuff. I don't know. That's a little strange since we don't have any maple trees around here. We do got a lovely bunch of coconuts, though.

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:01:37 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > > Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
> >
> > Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
> > You should know better than to say that.
> >
> > I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.
>
> I was not aware that coconut syrup was unheard of in the states. Nor did I know that coconut doesn't belong on pancakes. People on the mainland have so many food rules.

You have rules, too. I can't count how many times you've been gobsmacked
by things that we mainlanders eat.

> I'm guessing that coconut doesn't belong in pies and neither does sweet potato.

Heh. Good one.

Cindy Hamilton

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:36:01 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:01:37 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
> > >
> > > Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
> > > You should know better than to say that.
> > >
> > > I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.
> >
> > I was not aware that coconut syrup was unheard of in the states. Nor did I know that coconut doesn't belong on pancakes. People on the mainland have so many food rules.
>
> You have rules, too. I can't count how many times you've been gobsmacked
> by things that we mainlanders eat.
>

I try to avoid commenting on the foods of others so you're right that you can't count the times I've been gobsmacked. How does one count zero? My only comments have mostly been that mainland food tends to be bland and mushy. I don't have any problem with that.

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:36:01 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:01:37 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
> > > >
> > > > Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
> > > > You should know better than to say that.
> > > >
> > > > I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.
> > >
> > > I was not aware that coconut syrup was unheard of in the states. Nor did I know that coconut doesn't belong on pancakes. People on the mainland have so many food rules.
> >
> > You have rules, too. I can't count how many times you've been gobsmacked
> > by things that we mainlanders eat.
> >
>
> I try to avoid commenting on the foods of others so you're right that you can't count the times I've been gobsmacked. How does one count zero? My only comments have mostly been that mainland food tends to be bland and mushy.. I don't have any problem with that.

My God, man! Have you eaten any mainland food in the last 30 years that
wasn't prepared by someone 80 years old?

Bland and mushy my ass.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 10:55:59 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:36:01 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:01:37 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I was not aware that coconut syrup was unheard of in the states. Nor did I know that coconut doesn't belong on pancakes. People on the mainland have so many food rules.
>> >
>> > You have rules, too. I can't count how many times you've been gobsmacked
>> > by things that we mainlanders eat.
>> >
>>
>> I try to avoid commenting on the foods of others so you're right that you can't count the times I've been gobsmacked. How does one count zero? My only comments have mostly been that mainland food tends to be bland and mushy. I don't have any problem with that.
>
>My God, man! Have you eaten any mainland food in the last 30 years that
>wasn't prepared by someone 80 years old?
>
>Bland and mushy my ass.

LOL. Maybe he was always fed by Sheldon.

On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 8:56:03 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:36:01 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:01:37 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > > > jmcquown wrote:
> > > > > > Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
> > > > > You should know better than to say that.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.
> > > >
> > > > I was not aware that coconut syrup was unheard of in the states. Nor did I know that coconut doesn't belong on pancakes. People on the mainland have so many food rules.
> > >
> > > You have rules, too. I can't count how many times you've been gobsmacked
> > > by things that we mainlanders eat.
> > >
> >
> > I try to avoid commenting on the foods of others so you're right that you can't count the times I've been gobsmacked. How does one count zero? My only comments have mostly been that mainland food tends to be bland and mushy. I don't have any problem with that.
>
> My God, man! Have you eaten any mainland food in the last 30 years that
> wasn't prepared by someone 80 years old?
>
> Bland and mushy my ass.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I think you're being a little too sensitive about this i.e., I refuse to validate your feelings.

On 2019-12-06 8:42 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/6/2019 8:33 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> Agreed.Â* Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
>>
>> Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
>> You should know better than to say that.
>>
>> I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.
>>
> Hey, I love coconut.Â* I can't begin to tell you how much coconut I've
> eaten in my lifetime.Â* Sometimes picked right out of the freshly cracked
> nut itself after drinking the "milk".Â* I think it's fair to say I know
> my own tastebuds.
>
> Jill
I have just bought the ingredients to make cupcakes from coconut flour.
The recipe intrigues me so it'll be worth a try. Last week I made some
bread containing chestnut flour that worked out OK.

On 12/6/2019 1:55 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 1:16:01 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 7:36:01 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 12:01:37 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Friday, December 6, 2019 at 3:32:47 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>> Agreed. Coconut doesn't belong on pancakes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only on your plate since you're not willing to even try it.
>>>>> You should know better than to say that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm always willing to try something new, even odd, once.
>>>>
>>>> I was not aware that coconut syrup was unheard of in the states. Nor did I know that coconut doesn't belong on pancakes. People on the mainland have so many food rules.
>>>
>>> You have rules, too. I can't count how many times you've been gobsmacked
>>> by things that we mainlanders eat.
>>>
>>
>> I try to avoid commenting on the foods of others so you're right that you can't count the times I've been gobsmacked. How does one count zero? My only comments have mostly been that mainland food tends to be bland and mushy. I don't have any problem with that.
>
> My God, man! Have you eaten any mainland food in the last 30 years that
> wasn't prepared by someone 80 years old?
>
> Bland and mushy my ass.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Take into account he orders rice at McDonald's and was surprised a
"white woman" knows what shoyu is... as if you have to live in Hawaii
(or be Japanese) to have heard of it.

Jill