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Seems people actually ate this stuff


https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p

bologna cake?
Plenty of Jello salads too.
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On 11/27/2019 11:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Seems people actually ate this stuff
>
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p
>
> bologna cake?
> Plenty of Jello salads too.


I saw some of those on TV yesterday, Ed. No way am I going eat a
bologna cake frosted with "ranch cream cheese" frosting. Someone please
pass the cornbread dressing. That is, cornbread dressing that isn't
made with cauliflower.

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On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 4:57:14 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 11/27/2019 11:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Seems people actually ate this stuff
> >
> >
> > https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p
> >
> > bologna cake?
> > Plenty of Jello salads too.

>
> I saw some of those on TV yesterday, Ed. No way am I going eat a
> bologna cake frosted with "ranch cream cheese" frosting. Someone please
> pass the cornbread dressing. That is, cornbread dressing that isn't
> made with cauliflower.
>
> Jill


I think the bologna cake is an hors d'oeuvre. It doesn't
bother me, even though I'm not all that fond of bologna. I
might give it a try. It's difficult to see how it could
maintain its structural integrity (sufficient for slicing)
after even a relatively small amount of time outside the fridge.

I'd rather have celery sticks stuffed with cream cheese, green
olives, and walnuts. That was a holiday favorite in our house
when I was growing up.

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> On 11/27/2019 11:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> Seems people actually ate this stuff
>>
>>
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p
>>
>> bologna cake?
>> Plenty of Jello salads too.

>
> I saw some of those on TV yesterday, Ed. No way am I going eat a bologna
> cake frosted with "ranch cream cheese" frosting. Someone please pass the
> cornbread dressing. That is, cornbread dressing that isn't made with
> cauliflower.


I put onion and celery in mine. Even parsley. But never cauliflower. Yick!

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jmcquown wrote:
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> On 11/27/2019 11:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Seems people actually ate this stuff
> >
> >
> > https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p
> >
> > bologna cake?
> > Plenty of Jello salads too.

>
> I saw some of those on TV yesterday, Ed. No way am I going eat a
> bologna cake frosted with "ranch cream cheese" frosting. Someone please
> pass the cornbread dressing. That is, cornbread dressing that isn't
> made with cauliflower.
>
> Jill


And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.


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> And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
> me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
> someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.


seems just another version of polenta with mixed
seasonings, etc. nothing i'd freak out about.

i mean scrapple sounds good, head cheese is ok, etc.
i've surely had worse or stranger things.


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"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 11/27/2019 11:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > Seems people actually ate this stuff
>> >
>> >
>> > https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p
>> >
>> > bologna cake?
>> > Plenty of Jello salads too.

>>
>> I saw some of those on TV yesterday, Ed. No way am I going eat a
>> bologna cake frosted with "ranch cream cheese" frosting. Someone please
>> pass the cornbread dressing. That is, cornbread dressing that isn't
>> made with cauliflower.
>>
>> Jill

>
> And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
> me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
> someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.


It's quite good. Dressing = stuffing.

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On 11/28/2019 9:54 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 11/27/2019 11:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> Seems people actually ate this stuff
>>>
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p
>>>
>>> bologna cake?
>>> Plenty of Jello salads too.

>>
>> I saw some of those on TV yesterday, Ed. No way am I going eat a
>> bologna cake frosted with "ranch cream cheese" frosting. Someone please
>> pass the cornbread dressing. That is, cornbread dressing that isn't
>> made with cauliflower.
>>
>> Jill

>
> And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
> me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
> someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.
>

Maybe you don't like cornbread. It's just a different type of bread
dressing/stuffing. You yourself said you make extra stuffing to cook
along side the bird in the oven.

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On 11/28/2019 7:34 PM, songbird wrote:
> Gary wrote:
> ...
>> And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
>> me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
>> someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.

>
> seems just another version of polenta with mixed
> seasonings, etc. nothing i'd freak out about.
>

(snippage)
>
> songbird
>

Oh puleeeze. Cornbread is nothing like polenta. Polenta is cornmeal mush.

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On 11/28/2019 10:37 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Gary" > wrote in message
> ...
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/27/2019 11:23 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> > Seems people actually ate this stuff
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > https://imgur.com/gallery/fijBP7p
>>> >
>>> > bologna cake?
>>> > Plenty of Jello salads too.
>>>
>>> I saw some of those on TV yesterday, Ed.Â* No way am I going eat a
>>> bologna cake frosted with "ranch cream cheese" frosting.Â* Someone please
>>> pass the cornbread dressing.Â* That is, cornbread dressing that isn't
>>> made with cauliflower.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
>> me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
>> someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.

>
> It's quite good. Dressing = stuffing.


Songbird seems to think cornbread dressing is like polenta. Absolutely
not. Obviously never had it (or cornbread).

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> Maybe you don't like cornbread. It's just a different type of bread
> dressing/stuffing. You yourself said you make extra stuffing to cook
> along side the bird in the oven.


I do like stuffing. And I do like cornbread.
Just using cornbread for stuffing sound bad to me.
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On 11/29/2019 10:44 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Maybe you don't like cornbread. It's just a different type of bread
>> dressing/stuffing. You yourself said you make extra stuffing to cook
>> along side the bird in the oven.

>
> I do like stuffing. And I do like cornbread.
> Just using cornbread for stuffing sound bad to me.
>

Okay whatever. It's just a different type of crumbled bread. I'm not
trying to talk you into anything.

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On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 9:12:26 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
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> On 11/28/2019 7:34 PM, songbird wrote:
>
> >> And from the dark side, cornbread dressing sounds pretty nasty to
> >> me. Never had it and won't dare make it but I would try it if
> >> someone else served it to me. Might be better than it sounds.

> >
> > seems just another version of polenta with mixed
> > seasonings, etc. nothing i'd freak out about.
> >

> (snippage)
> >
> > songbird
> >

> Oh puleeeze. Cornbread is nothing like polenta. Polenta is cornmeal mush.
>
> Jill
>

Thank you. Saying cornbread dressing is like polenta is like saying mashed
potatoes are like French fries.
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On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 4:18:56 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
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> Grits are similar to polenta. Last time I checked, no ever tried to
> stuff a turkey with grits.
>
> Jill
>

That's a stomach lurching thought for sure!
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On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 4:28:20 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
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> On 2019-11-29 5:18 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > Grits are similar to polenta.Â* Last time I checked, no ever tried to
> > stuff a turkey with grits.

>
>
> That may be true, but who is to say that it might not be good?
>
> > Jill

>

To quote Jill: Oh puleeeze.
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On 2019 Nov 29, , Gary wrote
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> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > Maybe you don't like cornbread. It's just a different type of bread
> > dressing/stuffing. You yourself said you make extra stuffing to cook
> > along side the bird in the oven.

>
> I do like stuffing. And I do like cornbread.
> Just using cornbread for stuffing sound bad to me.


Because of my wife, I inherited cornbread stuffing. This is how it goes. Use
an equal amount of unsweetened cornbread and croutons. Add poultry seasoning,
sage, chopped celery, chopped onion, salt, pepper and two eggs beaten in some
giblet water to taste. Add more giblet water to the consistency you want and
stuff the turkey.
I cant remember what non-cornbread stuffing tastes like.

leo

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> You may be onto something! People stuff all kinds of things in
> turkeys like ducks and chickens, why not grits and ham?


smoked turkey wrapped scrapple!

my comment about polenta is mainly about the taste, by
the time you get all the spices in there i'm highly
doubtful anyone would be able to tell the difference in
taste between polenta and cornbread stuffing. it would
be a difference in texture, but who cares that much about
that anyways? well, ok, some people are pretty picky
about certain textures, but i'm not as long as it tastes
ok.


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jmcquown wrote:
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> Songbird seems to think cornbread dressing is like polenta. Absolutely
> not. Obviously never had it (or cornbread).


lol! ok... i have had all sorts of stuffings including
cornbread stuffing. i've made many variations of cornbread
too. and polenta and grits and hominy...

i think my favorite version of cornbread stuffing i had
contained cranberries, nuts, cubed venison, sausage and
punkin seeds, oh, and water chestnuts. it was very good.

to me the cornbread aspect tasted like mushy cornmeal
aka polenta.


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On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 8:59:06 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> Hank Rogers wrote:
> ...
> > You may be onto something! People stuff all kinds of things in
> > turkeys like ducks and chickens, why not grits and ham?

>
> smoked turkey wrapped scrapple!
>
> my comment about polenta is mainly about the taste, by
> the time you get all the spices in there i'm highly
> doubtful anyone would be able to tell the difference in
> taste between polenta and cornbread stuffing. it would
> be a difference in texture, but who cares that much about
> that anyways? well, ok, some people are pretty picky
> about certain textures, but i'm not as long as it tastes
> ok.


I care. Cornbread is gritty. I'll stick to regular bread
stuffing.

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On 11/30/2019 9:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>
> I care. Cornbread is gritty. I'll stick to regular bread
> stuffing.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>


I avoid cornbread for that reason. Tried a couple, never like it.
Until yesterday.

Thanksgiving was at my son's house and everyone brought something. It
was put out like a buffet and I passed on the cornbread. In the end,
everyone took leftovers home and I was given a contain with a bit of
everything, including the cornbread. Last night I figured it was there,
why not try it. Wow, it was very good. Not sure how it was made, but
there was corn kernels in it. I'll enjoy the rest of it tonight.
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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> everything, including the cornbread. Last night I figured it was there,
> why not try it. Wow, it was very good. Not sure how it was made, but
> there was corn kernels in it. I'll enjoy the rest of it tonight.


likely creamed corn.


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songbird wrote:
> smoked turkey wrapped scrapple!


That sounds like a plan although I do love scrapple
on it's own. Make your own but if not...

In my area you can buy Rapa brand and I do like their
variation with bits of bacon:

This is plain darn delicious, ingredients be damned:
http://affordablegrocery.com/wp-cont...on-300x214.jpg


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On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 10:38:30 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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> On 11/30/2019 9:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> >
> > I care. Cornbread is gritty. I'll stick to regular bread
> > stuffing.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >

>
> I avoid cornbread for that reason. Tried a couple, never like it.
> Until yesterday.
>
> Thanksgiving was at my son's house and everyone brought something. It
> was put out like a buffet and I passed on the cornbread. In the end,
> everyone took leftovers home and I was given a contain with a bit of
> everything, including the cornbread. Last night I figured it was there,
> why not try it. Wow, it was very good. Not sure how it was made, but
> there was corn kernels in it. I'll enjoy the rest of it tonight.
>

Sorry, not sorry, I've never once in my life had gritty cornbread. Must be
the type of cornmeal that is available in your areas. Quaker cornmeal is
pretty much available everywhere but it's not the whole kernel. Stone-
ground cornmeal is readily available here and perhaps that's why it's not
gritty. If it's not stone-ground then I won't buy it.
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"songbird" > wrote in message
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> Hank Rogers wrote:
> ...
>> You may be onto something! People stuff all kinds of things in
>> turkeys like ducks and chickens, why not grits and ham?

>
> smoked turkey wrapped scrapple!
>
> my comment about polenta is mainly about the taste, by
> the time you get all the spices in there i'm highly
> doubtful anyone would be able to tell the difference in
> taste between polenta and cornbread stuffing. it would
> be a difference in texture, but who cares that much about
> that anyways? well, ok, some people are pretty picky
> about certain textures, but i'm not as long as it tastes
> ok.


I'm big on texture. A friend once told me that a frozen mac and cheese was
really yummy. I bought it to try. It did have good flavor but the texture
was so soft (overcooked) that I couldn't eat it. Then I realized that the
reason my friend liked it was probably because she wore dentures. She
probably needed that soft texture.

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> On 11/30/2019 9:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>
>> I care. Cornbread is gritty. I'll stick to regular bread
>> stuffing.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>

>
> I avoid cornbread for that reason. Tried a couple, never like it. Until
> yesterday.
>
> Thanksgiving was at my son's house and everyone brought something. It was
> put out like a buffet and I passed on the cornbread. In the end, everyone
> took leftovers home and I was given a contain with a bit of everything,
> including the cornbread. Last night I figured it was there, why not try
> it. Wow, it was very good. Not sure how it was made, but there was corn
> kernels in it. I'll enjoy the rest of it tonight.


QFC (grocery store) used to make the best cornbread! It was sold by the
square and came with a pat of butter. The squares were set on top of the
salad bar. I used to get salad and cornbread every Friday. This stuff was
dense, moist and not too sweet. I dislike dry or sweet cornbread.

I have made vegan corn muffins that have canned corn in them. They are very
good. Mine were not technically vegan as I used real milk and often added
some shredded cheese. Use a real egg instead of a flax egg if you want (of
course they wouldn't be vegan). These freeze well.

https://lovingitvegan.com/vegan-cornbread-muffins/

This is by far the worst cornbread I ever made. It came out dry and lacked
flavor. Might have been okay maple syrup and butter on top. Didn't try it
that way. I did eat it. Just wished I hadn't!

https://www.thespruceeats.com/old-fa...nbread-3054168

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> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
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>> everything, including the cornbread. Last night I figured it was there,
>> why not try it. Wow, it was very good. Not sure how it was made, but
>> there was corn kernels in it. I'll enjoy the rest of it tonight.

>
> likely creamed corn.


No. Whole kernel.

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> On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 10:38:30 AM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 11/30/2019 9:12 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I care. Cornbread is gritty. I'll stick to regular bread
>> > stuffing.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >

>>
>> I avoid cornbread for that reason. Tried a couple, never like it.
>> Until yesterday.
>>
>> Thanksgiving was at my son's house and everyone brought something. It
>> was put out like a buffet and I passed on the cornbread. In the end,
>> everyone took leftovers home and I was given a contain with a bit of
>> everything, including the cornbread. Last night I figured it was there,
>> why not try it. Wow, it was very good. Not sure how it was made, but
>> there was corn kernels in it. I'll enjoy the rest of it tonight.
>>

> Sorry, not sorry, I've never once in my life had gritty cornbread. Must
> be
> the type of cornmeal that is available in your areas. Quaker cornmeal is
> pretty much available everywhere but it's not the whole kernel. Stone-
> ground cornmeal is readily available here and perhaps that's why it's not
> gritty. If it's not stone-ground then I won't buy it.


We have Quaker grits here but not cornmeal. I usually buy Martha White or
Bob's Red Mill. Alber's was common when I was a kid. Not sure if that is
available or not.

I have had gritty or too sweet cornbread in restaurants. That is one thing I
won't eat in a restaurant any more.



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On 2019 Dec 1, , Julie Bove wrote
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> This is by far the worst cornbread I ever made. It came out dry and lacked
> flavor. Might have been okay maple syrup and butter on top. Didn't try it
> that way. I did eat it. Just wished I hadn't!


Since you wondered earlier in the thread, my recipe comes right off the
Albers box. Its still sold in Western Nevada. Ive never used any other
cornmeal. Eliminate the sugar if making stuffing.

leo


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....
>> likely creamed corn.

>
> No. Whole kernel.


i wouldn't know for sure, but i've seen and eaten a lot
of cornbread with creamed corn in it and hardly any that
used whole kernel.


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> why not try it. Wow, it was very good. Not sure how it was made, but
> there was corn kernels in it. I'll enjoy the rest of it tonight.


I was never a big cornbread fan. Liked the Mexican recipe on a box of
Albers that contained "creamed-corn" and "cheddar cheese". but not
regular cornbread.

Then I tasted my M-I-L's cornbread. She would use only fresh med
ground cornmeal (from local HFS) and 3 eggs (one more than usual). No
"falling apart", no "crumbs", no iron-skillet, jes perfect. I've yet
to recreate it.

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"songbird" > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>> songbird wrote:

> ...
>>> likely creamed corn.

>>
>> No. Whole kernel.

>
> i wouldn't know for sure, but i've seen and eaten a lot
> of cornbread with creamed corn in it and hardly any that
> used whole kernel.


I've never had it with creamed.

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On 2019 Dec 2, , heyjoe wrote
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> On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 20:31:49 -0800
> in Message-ID:
> ividual.Net>
> Leo wrote :
>
> > Since you wondered earlier in the thread, my recipe comes right off the
> > Albers box.

>
> There are two corn bread recipes on the Albers' web site.
>
> Is this the recipe you use from the box? or something else?


Something else. Its the one that starts with 1 cup Albers® Yellow Corn
Meal. Ill post the recipe, but my current newsreader makes me double space
between each ingredient. The following will be all jammed up, since Im not
going to double space.

1 cup cornmeal, 1 cup all-purpose flour, 1/4 cup granulated sugar, 1 Tbsp
baking powder, 1 tsp salt, 1 cup milk, 1/3 cup vegetable oil and one large
egg lightly beaten. Mix the wet into the dry.

The oven is 400F and the timing is 20 to 25 minutes. I bake it in a 8 inch
cast iron skillet. I eliminate the sugar for cornbread stuffing. Im not
saying that its a great cornbread recipe, but its the one I use.

leo


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