Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
get your biking thing back. Small steps

About the motorized bikes though...

Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
(don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
they have.

Get this:
"The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."

<long pause>

Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
recharge them?

I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
a good life.

Gary > wrote:
> Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
> get your biking thing back. Small steps
>
> About the motorized bikes though...
>
> Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
> how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
> (don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
> they have.
>
> Get this:
> "The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>
> <long pause>
>
> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
> recharge them?
>
> I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
> a good life.
>

There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
know when an accident or injury could happen.

On 2019-12-08 12:17 p.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Gary > wrote:
>> Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
>> get your biking thing back. Small steps
>>
>> About the motorized bikes though...
>>
>> Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
>> how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
>> (don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
>> they have.
>>
>> Get this:
>> "The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>>
>> <long pause>
>>
>> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>> recharge them?
>>
>> I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>> a good life.
>>
>
> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
> more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
> know when an accident or injury could happen.
>
Which is why I bought my first cell-phone, one of those "peanut" types.
Back then, I often went on 100km bike rides by myself in rural Alberta
and needed one for emergencies that thankfully never occurred.

On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-6, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Gary > wrote:
> > Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
> > get your biking thing back. Small steps
> >
> > About the motorized bikes though...
> >
> > Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
> > how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
> > (don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
> > they have.
> >
> > Get this:
> > "The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
> >
> > <long pause>
> >
> > Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
> > that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
> > recharge them?
> >
> > I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
> > a good life.
> >
>
> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
> more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
> know when an accident or injury could happen.

Especially while skydiving or whitewater kayaking! But you can hedge your bets a lot with confidence and the proper training! And the true importance of Read and React comes into play!

Of course if you are a chicken shit...:-(

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 1:17:25 PM UTC-6, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> Gary > wrote:
>>> Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
>>> get your biking thing back. Small steps
>>>
>>> About the motorized bikes though...
>>>
>>> Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
>>> how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
>>> (don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
>>> they have.
>>>
>>> Get this:
>>> "The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>>>
>>> <long pause>
>>>
>>> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>>> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>>> recharge them?
>>>
>>> I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>>> a good life.
>>>
>>
>> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
>> more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
>> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
>> know when an accident or injury could happen.
>
> Especially while skydiving or whitewater kayaking! But you can hedge your
> bets a lot with confidence and the proper training! And the true
> importance of Read and React comes into play!
>
> Of course if you are a chicken shit...:-(
>
> John Kuthe...
>

And sometimes accidents have nothing to do with YOU.

Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
> more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
> know when an accident or injury could happen.

I agree with you. If you have a cell phone, take it with you
whether biking or even driving for emergency calls.

I had a flip phone for many years. I always carried it with me
but I left it turned off for personal outings.

My point, especially with enjoying a bike ride, is to bring
it for the rare emergency but keep it off. Enjoy the ride,
the wind, the scenery, the whole experience.

If an emergency happens, you have contact for help.
Still no need for a bike phone recharging port.
This is for phone addicts (and there are many) only.

Gary > wrote:
> Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>
>> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
>> more rural settings. I don’t think I’d want to be on one of those without a
>> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
>> know when an accident or injury could happen.
>
> I agree with you. If you have a cell phone, take it with you
> whether biking or even driving for emergency calls.
>
> I had a flip phone for many years. I always carried it with me
> but I left it turned off for personal outings.
>
> My point, especially with enjoying a bike ride, is to bring
> it for the rare emergency but keep it off. Enjoy the ride,
> the wind, the scenery, the whole experience.
>
> If an emergency happens, you have contact for help.
> Still no need for a bike phone recharging port.
> This is for phone addicts (and there are many) only.
>

Well....youre forgetting one very important feature of the modern cell
phone - GPS mapping. Using it long distances can also run a battery down
pretty quick. Not to mention, many people like to listen to music while
biking. That also uses up precious battery time. For a quick ride in a
city park I can see your point, but for the 63 mile rural trail that runs
near our house, Im going to want all the advantages a cell phone gives me,
including the ability to check in with people via text.

Jinx the Minx wrote:
>
> Well....youre forgetting one very important feature of the modern cell
> phone - GPS mapping. Using it long distances can also run a battery down
> pretty quick. Not to mention, many people like to listen to music while
> biking. That also uses up precious battery time. For a quick ride in a
> city park I can see your point, but for the 63 mile rural trail that runs
> near our house, Im going to want all the advantages a cell phone gives me,
> including the ability to check in with people via text.

You just made my whole point:
Take a phone with you for emergencies but leave it turned off.

You say:
- Good for GPS mapping.
For a local bike ride? Even longer bike rides, I know where
I'm going and where I am. I've done 65 mile rides.
Never needed a gps map.

- people like to listen to music
And I said, get out enjoy the ride. You DON'T need music.
Enjoy a ride without that. Try it sometime.

- including the ability to check in with people via text
Can't go for a bike ride without checking for text messages?
My point made. You are a phone addict.

In your case, yes...you should have a phone charger on your bike.

Bet you would go nuts with your phone turned off for 48 hours.
Don't believe me? Try it sometime.

On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 13:32:08 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>You just made my whole point:
>Take a phone with you for emergencies but leave it turned off.
>
>You say:
>- Good for GPS mapping.
>For a local bike ride? Even longer bike rides, I know where
>I'm going and where I am. I've done 65 mile rides.
>Never needed a gps map.
>
>- people like to listen to music
>And I said, get out enjoy the ride. You DON'T need music.
>Enjoy a ride without that. Try it sometime.
>
>- including the ability to check in with people via text
>Can't go for a bike ride without checking for text messages?
>My point made. You are a phone addict.
>
>In your case, yes...you should have a phone charger on your bike.
>
>Bet you would go nuts with your phone turned off for 48 hours.
>Don't believe me? Try it sometime.

So people aren't allowed to have their phones on during a bike ride.
They're also not allowed to listen to music during a bike ride. And
they're not allowed to check for text messages during a bike ride.

But if I want bread without added sugar, I'm uppity.

Gary > wrote:
> Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>
>> Well....you’re forgetting one very important feature of the modern cell
>> phone - GPS mapping. Using it long distances can also run a battery down
>> pretty quick. Not to mention, many people like to listen to music while
>> biking. That also uses up precious battery time. For a quick ride in a
>> city park I can see your point, but for the 63 mile rural trail that runs
>> near our house, I’m going to want all the advantages a cell phone gives me,
>> including the ability to check in with people via text.
>
> You just made my whole point:
> Take a phone with you for emergencies but leave it turned off.
>
> You say:
> - Good for GPS mapping.
> For a local bike ride? Even longer bike rides, I know where
> I'm going and where I am. I've done 65 mile rides.
> Never needed a gps map.
>
> - people like to listen to music
> And I said, get out enjoy the ride. You DON'T need music.
> Enjoy a ride without that. Try it sometime.
>
> - including the ability to check in with people via text
> Can't go for a bike ride without checking for text messages?
> My point made. You are a phone addict.
>
> In your case, yes...you should have a phone charger on your bike.
>
> Bet you would go nuts with your phone turned off for 48 hours.
> Don't believe me? Try it sometime.

1. I dont listen to music on my phone, just stating that many do. Heck, I
dont even want radio in my car. Or my house. Either way, thats your
personal bias that people dont need it while riding a bike.

2. I live in a pretty rural area. We have lots of bicyclists out there, and
many more that that bring their bikes out there for the ride. Im not
talking your average city Joe wanting a Sunday stroll for an hour. These
are serious bikers. Theyre not all familiar with the roads and turns and
detours and ways to this town or that town. Would you like them to carry a
paper map? Heck, I dont even know all the roads and turns out there.

3. As a woman, if Im out by myself, you better believe I want the ability
to text or email anyone should I need to. This is especially true if I plan
to be gone a long time or go far away. This makes me cautious and
practical, not addicted to my phone.

4. Regardless, if I stop for a lunch break, why shouldnt I be at liberty
to do anything I want? You likely wouldnt scoff at someone taking a break
for lunch and reading a few chapters in a book, or sketching nature, would
you? Guess what, Gary? You can read books on your phone, too!

Am I addicted to my phone? Well, by your perceived definition I guess I am.
By mine, not so much. For me, its an indispensable tool. You prolly still
have an old tethered landline in your home, too. Rotary, no doubt. You can
even buy suitcases with phone chargers built into them now, too.

On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 13:32:08 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>
>> Well....youre forgetting one very important feature of the modern cell
>> phone - GPS mapping. Using it long distances can also run a battery down
>> pretty quick. Not to mention, many people like to listen to music while
>> biking. That also uses up precious battery time. For a quick ride in a
>> city park I can see your point, but for the 63 mile rural trail that runs
>> near our house, Im going to want all the advantages a cell phone gives me,
>> including the ability to check in with people via text.
>
>You just made my whole point:
>Take a phone with you for emergencies but leave it turned off.

That wasn't your point. You never did make that point. You're a liar,
or at best disingenuous.

On 12/8/2019 2:17 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> Gary > wrote:
>> Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
>> get your biking thing back. Small steps
>>
>> About the motorized bikes though...
>>
>> Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
>> how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
>> (don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
>> they have.
>>
>> Get this:
>> "The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>>
>> <long pause>
>>
>> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>> recharge them?
>>
>> I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>> a good life.
>>
>
> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
> more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
> know when an accident or injury could happen.
>
Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
(electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
is within three blocks.

Jill

On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 23:07:36 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/8/2019 2:17 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> Gary > wrote:
>>> Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
>>> get your biking thing back. Small steps
>>>
>>> About the motorized bikes though...
>>>
>>> Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
>>> how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
>>> (don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
>>> they have.
>>>
>>> Get this:
>>> "The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>>>
>>> <long pause>
>>>
>>> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>>> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>>> recharge them?
>>>
>>> I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>>> a good life.
>>>
>>
>> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
>> more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
>> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
>> know when an accident or injury could happen.
>>
>Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
>(electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
>to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
>is within three blocks.

Some people take bigger risks than McBiddy.

jmcquown > wrote:
> On 12/8/2019 2:17 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> Gary > wrote:
>>> Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
>>> get your biking thing back. Small steps
>>>
>>> About the motorized bikes though...
>>>
>>> Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
>>> how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
>>> (don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
>>> they have.
>>>
>>> Get this:
>>> "The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>>>
>>> <long pause>
>>>
>>> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>>> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>>> recharge them?
>>>
>>> I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>>> a good life.
>>>
>>
>> There are more and more long distance biking trails being built, often in
>> more rural settings. I dont think Id want to be on one of those without a
>> working, charged cell phone, especially if I was biking alone. You never
>> know when an accident or injury could happen.
>>
> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
> is within three blocks.
>
> Jill
>

I dont know if Joans new bike has a USB port or not, but its not really
relevant to my point.

On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
> is within three blocks.
>
> Jill
>
Closer, 300 feet from my back door.

On 12/12/2019 1:20 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
>> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
>> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
>> is within three blocks.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Closer, 300 feet from my back door.
>

I hardly think you'll get lost in the wilderness on your bike.

Jill

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 9:56:49 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 12/12/2019 1:20 AM, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
> >> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
> >> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
> >> is within three blocks.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> > Closer, 300 feet from my back door.
> >
>
> I hardly think you'll get lost in the wilderness on your bike.
>
> Jill

I keep my cellphone in my pocket when I'm mowing the lawn. Just
in case I roll the tractor and have to call 911.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:20:41 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
>> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
>> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
>> is within three blocks.
>>
>> Jill
>>
>Closer, 300 feet from my back door.

Three city avenue blocks is about 300'.

On 12/12/2019 11:46 AM, wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:20:41 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
>>> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
>>> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
>>> is within three blocks.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> Closer, 300 feet from my back door.
>
> Three city avenue blocks is about 300'.
>
Your point is?

Jill

wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:20:41 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
> >> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
> >> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
> >> is within three blocks.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> >Closer, 300 feet from my back door.
>
> Three city avenue blocks is about 300'.

100 feet per block sounds a bit short to me.

On 2019-12-12 11:46 a.m., wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:20:41 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> Yeah, but as I understand it, Joan just wants to be able to ride her
>>> (electric) bike in the neighborhood and a nearby park. She's not going
>>> to get lost in the wilderness. IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
>>> is within three blocks.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>> Closer, 300 feet from my back door.
>
> Three city avenue blocks is about 300'.

Those would be the world's shortest blocks.

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:46:15 AM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 22:20:41 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 10:07:41 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> IIRC the shop where she bought the bike
> >> is within three blocks.
> >>
> >> Jill
> >>
> >Closer, 300 feet from my back door.
>
> Three city avenue blocks is about 300'.
>
It might be in New Yawk but not in my neighborhood. If it weren't for the
trees I could see the bike shop from my back porch.

https://i.postimg.cc/4xbh950X/My-House1.jpg

That 'thinner' gray line running down the side of my house and behind mine
and other houses is an alley. You can see the streets clearly marked.

On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:34:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:


>Get this:
>"The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>
><long pause>
>
>Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>recharge them?
>
>I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>a good life.

Most fitness apps have a bike ride monitor function, including GPS
tracking, so you (AND your friends) know how dedicated and fit you
are. And the more you eat, the more you NEED that bike ride.

On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 2:39:07 PM UTC-6, Still Bud wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:34:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
>
> >Get this:
> >"The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
> >
> ><long pause>
> >
> >Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
> >that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
> >recharge them?
> >
> >I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
> >a good life.
>
> Most fitness apps have a bike ride monitor function, including GPS
> tracking, so you (AND your friends) know how dedicated and fit you
> are. And the more you eat, the more you NEED that bike ride.

I used to ride with a bike computer, but then I removed it and felt a LOT FREER! I was no longer a slave to my bike computer! I rode on how *I* FELT!

I HATE being tethered to an electronic POS!

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:34:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Joan, I hope you're doing better now. It takes time but you'll
>get your biking thing back. Small steps
>
>About the motorized bikes though...
>
>Article in this mornings newspaper about motorized bikes and
>how they are gaining in popularity. They focused on one brand
>(don't remember the name) but I noticed a LMAO feature that
>they have.
>
>Get this:
>"The bike has a USB port so you can charge your phone."
>
><long pause>
>
>Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>recharge them?

Ummm, OK. you still have no clue and expect people to live like it's
still the days before the Internet. Nothing necessarily to do with
addiction to anything.

>I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>a good life.

It's clearly your problem and nobody else's. Maybe you should just
move on, either mentally, physically or both.

On 2019-12-08 5:41 p.m., Je�us wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:34:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
>> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
>> recharge them?
>
> Ummm, OK. you still have no clue and expect people to live like it's
> still the days before the Internet. Nothing necessarily to do with
> addiction to anything.
>
>> I'm speechless. Maybe it's just time for me to die. It's been
>> a good life.
>
> It's clearly your problem and nobody else's. Maybe you should just
> move on, either mentally, physically or both.
>

It is hard for some of us old farts to accept the reliance on cell
phones. I have a smart phone and I enjoy it. I don't spend much time
talking on it. I use it to check email and text messages. When I am with
real time people it stays in my pocket. Yesterday my wife and I were at
the corner coffee shop and happened to notice that two of four people
had come in talking on their cell phones and continued to do so until
they were waited on. There have been times that I have been in line at
places
and the person being waited on was slowing things down because he/she
was talking on their phones.

On 12/8/2019 6:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> It is hard for some of us old farts toÂ* accept the reliance on cell
> phones. I have a smart phone and I enjoy it. I don't spend much time
> talking on it. I use it to check email and text messages. When I am with
> real time people it stays in my pocket.Â* Yesterday my wife and I were at
> the corner coffee shop and happened to notice that two of four people
> had come in talking on their cell phones and continued to do so until
> they were waited on.Â* There have been times that I have been in line at
> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* places
> and the person being waited on was slowing things down because he/she
> was talking on their phones.

Seems like some people talk all day long. There are a couple of people
I talk to on a regular basis, maybe once a week or so. I call them from
home when I have the time to make our conversation the center of
attention. No distractions. I texted one person today and asked when
is a good time to call tomorrow. We can talk about a variety of things
with no interruptions to pay for a coffee, etc. If I do get the odd
call here and there, it is quick and to the point.

On 2019-12-08 9:52 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 12/8/2019 6:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> It is hard for some of us old farts toÂ* accept the reliance on cell
>> phones. I have a smart phone and I enjoy it. I don't spend much time
>> talking on it. I use it to check email and text messages. When I am
>> with real time people it stays in my pocket.Â* Yesterday my wife and I
>> were at the corner coffee shop and happened to notice that two of four
>> people had come in talking on their cell phones and continued to do so
>> until they were waited on.Â* There have been times that I have been in
>> line at
>> places and the person being waited on was slowing things down because
>> he/she was talking on their phones.
>
> Seems like some people talk all day long.Â* There are a couple of people
> I talk to on a regular basis, maybe once a week or so. I call them from
> home when I have the time to make our conversation the center of
> attention.Â* No distractions.Â* I texted one person today and asked when
> is a good time to call tomorrow. We can talk about a variety of things
> with no interruptions to pay for a coffee, etc.Â* If I do get the odd
> call here and there, it is quick and to the point.

I just got off the phone with my nephew. He and my son seem to have
inherited by mother's penchant for long phone calls. I normally don't
spend much time on the phone. I think I spent more time on the phone
today than I have for the previous six months total. My friend called
mid afternoon and we chatted for about a half hour. Then I got a got my
an old friend on the west coast. She is my pseudo sister, older sister
of my life long friend who died two years ago. My nephew called tonight
and I think he set an all time record for me..... an hour and forty
eight minutes.

On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 5:29:56 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-12-08 9:52 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 12/8/2019 6:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> >> It is hard for some of us old farts toÂ* accept the reliance on cell
> >> phones. I have a smart phone and I enjoy it. I don't spend much time
> >> talking on it. I use it to check email and text messages. When I am
> >> with real time people it stays in my pocket.Â* Yesterday my wife and I
> >> were at the corner coffee shop and happened to notice that two of four
> >> people had come in talking on their cell phones and continued to do so
> >> until they were waited on.Â* There have been times that I have been in
> >> line at
> >> places and the person being waited on was slowing things down because
> >> he/she was talking on their phones.
> >
> > Seems like some people talk all day long.Â* There are a couple of people
> > I talk to on a regular basis, maybe once a week or so. I call them from
> > home when I have the time to make our conversation the center of
> > attention.Â* No distractions.Â* I texted one person today and asked when
> > is a good time to call tomorrow. We can talk about a variety of things
> > with no interruptions to pay for a coffee, etc.Â* If I do get the odd
> > call here and there, it is quick and to the point.
>
> I just got off the phone with my nephew. He and my son seem to have
> inherited by mother's penchant for long phone calls. I normally don't
> spend much time on the phone. I think I spent more time on the phone
> today than I have for the previous six months total. My friend called
> mid afternoon and we chatted for about a half hour. Then I got a got my
> an old friend on the west coast. She is my pseudo sister, older sister
> of my life long friend who died two years ago. My nephew called tonight
> and I think he set an all time record for me..... an hour and forty
> eight minutes.

I remember being at my grandma's house and talking a long time on the phone with my future wife. That was the talk of my aunties. Who's that girl? Hopefully I wasn't too long on the phone - that would have been pretty rude. These days, I don't talk much on the phone and good riddance to all that. Learning the art of ending a phone conversation in a rapid manner should be taught in skool. OTOH, the modern kid has no need for that because they don't talk, they text.

On Sun, 08 Dec 2019 12:34:25 -0500, Gary > wrote:

> Gary: Ummm ok. So people are so addicted to their phones now
> that they take them on a bike ride...and might even need to
> recharge them?

I got my phone expressly *for* bike rides. When I'm not on the bike,
the phone is in the pocket of jeans hanging on a hook in the closet.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/

On 2019 Dec 8, , Sqwertz wrote
(in article >):

> Come tot hink of it, I don't think I've never seen anybody TALKING
> to another person on an iPhone.

No need to. I have an Apple Watch for that. I leave the iPhone at home. Im
a Dick Tracy kind of dude

leo

On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 22:06:32 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2019 Dec 8, , Sqwertz wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> Come tot hink of it, I don't think I've never seen anybody TALKING
>> to another person on an iPhone.
>
>No need to. I have an Apple Watch for that. I leave the iPhone at home.

Are you serious?

On 2019 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> > No need to. I have an Apple Watch for that. I leave the iPhone at home.
>
> Are you serious?

I really am. Cellular Apple Watches do that, providing you have a iPhone to
link them to. The iPhone can be in Wisconsin while Im in Nevada. Damndest
thing. Check it out if you dont believe me. I do feel stupid talking to my
watch if anyone is looking at me, but theyre all Luddites. I cant talk
to the iPhone from the watch since they share the same number. We have a
landline for that. I talked to my wife from a duck swamp seventy miles away
last year using the watch. I described the duck situation. She had the iPhone
with her, but the watch call that I made came in on the landline. Of course,
the watch has to be within cellular coverage. Its all true. Apple watches
are amazing little gizmos, providing you have a reasonably current iPhone.

leo

On Mon, 09 Dec 2019 23:54:39 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2019 Dec 9, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> > No need to. I have an Apple Watch for that. I leave the iPhone at home.
>>
>> Are you serious?
>
>I really am. Cellular Apple Watches do that, providing you have a iPhone to
>link them to. The iPhone can be in Wisconsin while Im in Nevada. Damndest
>thing. Check it out if you dont believe me. I do feel stupid talking to my
>watch if anyone is looking at me, but theyre all Luddites. I cant talk
>to the iPhone from the watch since they share the same number. We have a
>landline for that. I talked to my wife from a duck swamp seventy miles away
>last year using the watch. I described the duck situation. She had the iPhone
>with her, but the watch call that I made came in on the landline. Of course,
>the watch has to be within cellular coverage. Its all true. Apple watches
>are amazing little gizmos, providing you have a reasonably current iPhone.

I knew these watches existed. Very James Bond. But I wondered if they
were any good. I guess they are.