I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it but I'm a
little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.

When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only beef roasts I
saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were called) that
were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I bought the one that
appeared to be less fatty.

It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put some of
the cooked meat in the freezer for later.

Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not cook them
all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in butter with
parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!

I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 6:45:03 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it but I'm a
> little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.
>
> When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only beef roasts I
> saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were called) that
> were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I bought the one that
> appeared to be less fatty.
>
> It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put some of
> the cooked meat in the freezer for later.
>
> Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not cook them
> all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in butter with
> parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!
>
> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.

Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?

On 12/18/19 7:22 AM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 6:45:03 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it but I'm a
>> little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.
>>
>> When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only beef roasts I
>> saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were called) that
>> were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I bought the one that
>> appeared to be less fatty.
>>
>> It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put some of
>> the cooked meat in the freezer for later.
>>
>> Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not cook them
>> all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in butter with
>> parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!
>>
>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>
> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>

It would be very dry and ruined after several days. Brisket is not
smoked for several day either. Full packer brisket takes 8 to 12 hours
depending on size and fire. If I smoke a standing rib roast it only
gets an hour or so of smoke and then finished in the oven. It's heavenly!

I prefer rib roast with zero smoke served with a good dose of
horseradish on the side. Brisket is the better choice for smoking/bbqing.

jay wrote:
> On 12/18/19 7:22 AM, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 6:45:03 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove
>> wrote:
>>> I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it
>>> but I'm a
>>> little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.
>>>
>>> When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only
>>> beef roasts I
>>> saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were
>>> called) that
>>> were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I bought
>>> the one that
>>> appeared to be less fatty.
>>>
>>> It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put
>>> some of
>>> the cooked meat in the freezer for later.
>>>
>>> Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not
>>> cook them
>>> all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in
>>> butter with
>>> parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!
>>>
>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg
>>> or two.
>>
>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early
>> 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several
>> days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>
>
> It would be very dry and ruined after several days.* Brisket is not
> smoked for several day either.* Full packer brisket takes 8 to 12
> hours depending on size and fire.* If I smoke a standing rib roast
> it only gets an hour or so of smoke and then finished in the oven.
> It's heavenly!
>
> I prefer rib roast with zero smoke served with a good dose of
> horseradish on the side. Brisket is the better choice for
> smoking/bbqing.
>
>

Exactly. Some hobby people get so enamored with smoke, and use way
too much. Their vittles end up tasting like creosote from a rusty
stovepipe. Smoke is like salt ... Just the right amount can be very
good, but too much ruins it.

On 12/18/19 1:46 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> jay wrote:
>> On 12/18/19 7:22 AM, wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 6:45:03 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it but
>>>> I'm a
>>>> little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.
>>>>
>>>> When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only beef
>>>> roasts I
>>>> saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were called)
>>>> that
>>>> were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I bought the
>>>> one that
>>>> appeared to be less fatty.
>>>>
>>>> It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put
>>>> some of
>>>> the cooked meat in the freezer for later.
>>>>
>>>> Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not cook
>>>> them
>>>> all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in
>>>> butter with
>>>> parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!
>>>>
>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>>
>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like
>>> BBQ brisket?
>>>
>>
>> It would be very dry and ruined after several days.Â* Brisket is not
>> smoked for several day either.Â* Full packer brisket takes 8 to 12
>> hours depending on size and fire.Â* If I smoke a standing rib roast it
>> only gets an hour or so of smoke and then finished in the oven. It's
>> heavenly!
>>
>> I prefer rib roast with zero smoke served with a good dose of
>> horseradish on the side. Brisket is the better choice for smoking/bbqing.
>>
>>
>
> Exactly. Some hobby people get so enamored with smoke, and use way too
> much. Their vittles end up tasting like creosote from a rusty stovepipe.
> Smoke is like salt ... Just the right amount can be very good, but too
> much ruins it.
>
>
Yes many apply too much smoke and for way too long.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 6:45:03 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it but I'm a
>> little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.
>>
>> When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only beef roasts
>> I
>> saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were called) that
>> were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I bought the one
>> that
>> appeared to be less fatty.
>>
>> It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put some of
>> the cooked meat in the freezer for later.
>>
>> Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not cook them
>> all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in butter
>> with
>> parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!
>>
>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>
> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I
> wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ
> brisket?

I never watched Dallas although I was in the room when the "Who shot JR'
episode was on. Never had brisket and don't eat BBQ.

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:01:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
...
>>
>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I
>> wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ
>> brisket?
>
>I never watched Dallas although I was in the room when the "Who shot JR'
>episode was on. Never had brisket and don't eat BBQ.

I still don't know who shot JR. Or maybe I forgot.

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:01:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:


>I never watched Dallas although I was in the room when the "Who shot JR'
>episode was on. Never had brisket and don't eat BBQ.

I guess the U.S had those TV guide magazines back then? I used to see
the magazine covers with the cast of the show, especially JR. Based on
how ridiculous they looked, for many years I honestly thought Dallas
was a sitcom. I never knew it was meant to be a drama. I never watched
TV back then, and I still don't.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 13:10:38 +1100, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:01:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>
>>I never watched Dallas although I was in the room when the "Who shot JR'
>>episode was on. Never had brisket and don't eat BBQ.
>
>I guess the U.S had those TV guide magazines back then? I used to see
>the magazine covers with the cast of the show, especially JR. Based on
>how ridiculous they looked, for many years I honestly thought Dallas
>was a sitcom. I never knew it was meant to be a drama. I never watched
>TV back then, and I still don't.

That's very speshial of you, Jebus. You should move to Hawaii.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 6:45:03 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it but I'm a
> > little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.
> >
> > When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only beef roasts I
> > saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were called) that
> > were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I bought the one that
> > appeared to be less fatty.
> >
> > It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put some of
> > the cooked meat in the freezer for later.
> >
> > Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not cook them
> > all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in butter with
> > parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!
> >
> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>
> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?

I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >
>> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>
>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>
>I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(

She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television! Now you
have a president who thinks his daughter's hot. But a nipple slip
still stops the country

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:01:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>
>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and
>>> I
>>> wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ
>>> brisket?
>>
>>I never watched Dallas although I was in the room when the "Who shot JR'
>>episode was on. Never had brisket and don't eat BBQ.
>
> I still don't know who shot JR. Or maybe I forgot.

I don't know either. I was playing pool.

"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:01:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>I never watched Dallas although I was in the room when the "Who shot JR'
>>episode was on. Never had brisket and don't eat BBQ.
>
> I guess the U.S had those TV guide magazines back then? I used to see
> the magazine covers with the cast of the show, especially JR. Based on
> how ridiculous they looked, for many years I honestly thought Dallas
> was a sitcom. I never knew it was meant to be a drama. I never watched
> TV back then, and I still don't.

TV Guide was around. I only ever flipped through a couple of issues while I
was babysitting. The kids were sleeping and I had nothing else top do.

On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
> >>
> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
> >
> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>
> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!

Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:14:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>> >
>> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>
>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>
>Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.

I'd be surprised if they had.

Bruce wrote:
> I still don't know who shot JR. Or maybe I forgot.

Barbara Eden
It was a "ME TOO" issue with her.

On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>
>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>
>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>
> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>
But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
Breaking Bad.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:02:46 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
> >>>
> >>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
> >>
> >> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> >> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
> >
> > Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> > operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
> >
> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> Breaking Bad.

Yes, it was. I was a little imprecise. Nowadays, though, I imagine
there's incest all over the place on nighttime TV. I think there's
a Wikipedia article about it.

Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.

Cindy Hamilton

On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
>>>>>> two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
>>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
>>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>
>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
>>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
>>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>
>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>
>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>
> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> Breaking Bad.

I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
following it.

Didn't know it was more like a soap.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:14:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>> >
>> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>
>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>
>Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

what about Peyton Place? That was around before Dallas

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
> > On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
> >>>>>> two.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
> >>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
> >>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
> >>>>
> >>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
> >>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
> >>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
> >>>
> >>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> >>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
> >>
> >> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> >> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
> >>
> > But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> > Breaking Bad.
>
> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
> a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
> following it.
>
> Didn't know it was more like a soap.

Season 1 was a bit like Hamlet with guns and motorcycles.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 07:33:03 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>> I still don't know who shot JR. Or maybe I forgot.
>
>Barbara Eden
>It was a "ME TOO" issue with her.

Oh wait, the sister of someone else, right?

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 08:16:32 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:02:46 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>> >>>
>> >>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>> >>
>> >> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>> >> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>> >
>> > Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>> > operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>> >
>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>> Breaking Bad.
>
>Yes, it was. I was a little imprecise. Nowadays, though, I imagine
>there's incest all over the place on nighttime TV. I think there's
>a Wikipedia article about it.
>
>Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.

Incest on American TV? And inbreeding too? Little babies with 3 arms?

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 11:04:17 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>
>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>
>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>
>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>
>But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>Breaking Bad.

Breaking Bad a soap opera? Dave's deteriorating.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:16:19 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 03:14:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>> >
>>> >I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>
>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>
>>Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>>operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>what about Peyton Place? That was around before Dallas

Dr. Rossi or something. But I doubt they dealt with incest.

On 2019-12-19 11:16 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 11:02:46 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>
>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>>
>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>>
>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>>
>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>> Breaking Bad.
>
> Yes, it was. I was a little imprecise. Nowadays, though, I imagine
> there's incest all over the place on nighttime TV. I think there's
> a Wikipedia article about it.
>
> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
>

We can add Vikings to the list. The only difference is the air time and
the sponsors.

On 2019-12-19 12:09 p.m., Pamela wrote:
> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>
>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with
>>>>>>> another veg or two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the
>>>>>> early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked
>>>>>> for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>
>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called
>>>>> "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so
>>>>> they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that
>>>>> was! :-(
>>>>
>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to
>>>> be her uncle. The first celebration of incest on American
>>>> television!
>>>
>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime
>>> soap operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas
>>> did.
>>>
>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>> Breaking Bad.
>
> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked
> like a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight
> in following it.
>
> Didn't know it was more like a soap.


It has all the characteristics of a soap opera. There is a cast of
characters coming in and out of the series, some of them evil, some
somewhat admirable, parallel sub plots, love stories, romance and sex,
betrayals, disappearances and deaths. Some of the characters are down
right evil while others are shown to be capable of doing bad.

On 2019-12-19 12:50 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
>> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
>>>>>>>> two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
>>>>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
>>>>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
>>>>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
>>>>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
>>>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
>>>>
>>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
>>>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
>>>>
>>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>>> Breaking Bad.
>>
>> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
>> a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
>> following it.
>>
>> Didn't know it was more like a soap.
>
> Season 1 was a bit like Hamlet with guns and motorcycles.
>

The last episode was a lame attempt to like Jaxx to Jesus, maybe
presenting the possibility of the series resurrecting.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 2:31:47 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-12-19 12:50 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 12:09:49 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
> >> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or
> >>>>>>>> two.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the early 80's)
> >>>>>>> and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked for several days.
> >>>>>>> Like BBQ brisket?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called "Juicy
> >>>>>> Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so they had to clean
> >>>>>> her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that was! :-(
> >>>>>
> >>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to be her
> >>>>> uncle. The first celebration of incest on American television!
> >>>>
> >>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime soap
> >>>> operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas did.
> >>>>
> >>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
> >>> Breaking Bad.
> >>
> >> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked like
> >> a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight in
> >> following it.
> >>
> >> Didn't know it was more like a soap.
> >
> > Season 1 was a bit like Hamlet with guns and motorcycles.
> >
>
> The last episode was a lame attempt to like Jaxx to Jesus, maybe
> presenting the possibility of the series resurrecting.

Yep. But I forgive them, because of that delicious rendition of
"John the Revelator".

Cindy Hamilton

On 12/19/2019 11:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.

Jill

On 12/18/2019 6:44 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I haven't been eating much meat because I really don't like it but I'm a
> little anemic and told the Dr. I would try to eat more meat.
>
> When I got to Winco, they were stocking the meat and the only beef
> roasts I saw were two huge sirloin tip (I think that's what they were
> called) that were bigger than footballs. Marked down to about $19. I
> bought the one that appeared to be less fatty.
>
> It cooked far quicker than I was expecting. Very tender. Will put some
> of the cooked meat in the freezer for later.
>
Hmmmm... I always found sirloin tip roasts to be a little tough. I'm
glad it turned out tender for you.

> Also got a bag of Russet potatoes for a little over $1. Did not cook
> them all. Cut them up, boiled them until tender then tossed them in
> butter with parsley, salt, pepper and a little roasted garlic. Very tasty!
>
> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with another veg or two.

That's what's nice about good leftovers.

Jill

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:58:36 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 12/19/2019 11:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
>read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.

Game of Thrones: 80% talking heads, 20% gruesome murders.

On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:09:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:58:36 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 12/19/2019 11:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> >I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
> >read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.
>
> Game of Thrones: 80% talking heads, 20% gruesome murders.

You left out the sex.

Oh, wait. That probably falls under "talking heads".

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:59:10 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, December 19, 2019 at 3:09:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 14:58:36 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 12/19/2019 11:16 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> Twin Peaks was a soap opera, as was Game of Thrones.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> >I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
>> >read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.
>>
>> Game of Thrones: 80% talking heads, 20% gruesome murders.
>
>You left out the sex.
>
>Oh, wait. That probably falls under "talking heads".

Yes, there's a bit of that too.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 01:59:07 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Jeßus" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 17:01:03 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I never watched Dallas although I was in the room when the "Who shot JR'
>>>episode was on. Never had brisket and don't eat BBQ.
>>
>> I guess the U.S had those TV guide magazines back then? I used to see
>> the magazine covers with the cast of the show, especially JR. Based on
>> how ridiculous they looked, for many years I honestly thought Dallas
>> was a sitcom. I never knew it was meant to be a drama. I never watched
>> TV back then, and I still don't.
>
>TV Guide was around. I only ever flipped through a couple of issues while I
>was babysitting. The kids were sleeping and I had nothing else top do.

Yes, exciting stuff, those TV guides.

On 19:25 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:

> On 2019-12-19 12:09 p.m., Pamela wrote:
>> On 16:04 19 Dec 2019, Dave Smith > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019-12-19 6:14 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 9:26:34 PM UTC-5, Bruce
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 18:19:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, December 18, 2019 at 8:22:30 AM UTC-6,
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I won't have to cook later. Just heat those up with
>>>>>>>> another veg or two.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I've been looking at re-runs of 'Dallas' (from the
>>>>>>> early 80's) and I wonder how roast beef would taste smoked
>>>>>>> for several days. Like BBQ brisket?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I liked the very FIRST Dallas episode where Lucy was called
>>>>>> "Juicy Lucy" because SHE WAS! But she got super popular so
>>>>>> they had to clean her up! :-( What a loss an a waste that
>>>>>> was! :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> She was dating a guy, forgot his name, who later turned out to
>>>>> be her uncle. The first celebration of incest on American
>>>>> television!
>>>>
>>>> Nighttime television, perhaps. I'd be surprised if the daytime
>>>> soap operas hadn't used the incest gambit long before Dallas
>>>> did.
>>>>
>>> But but.... Dallas was a soap opera, as were Sons of Anarchy and
>>> Breaking Bad.
>>
>> I skipped by Sons of Anarchy when it came up on Netflix as it looked
>> like a violent reality tv show, although my nephew seems to delight
>> in following it.
>>
>> Didn't know it was more like a soap.
>
>
> It has all the characteristics of a soap opera. There is a cast of
> characters coming in and out of the series, some of them evil, some
> somewhat admirable, parallel sub plots, love stories, romance and sex,
> betrayals, disappearances and deaths. Some of the characters are down
> right evil while others are shown to be capable of doing bad.

I suppose even Breaking Bad could be called a soap although that may not
the best description.

On 2019 Dec 19, , jmcquown wrote
(in article >):

> I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
> read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.

Twin Peaks descended from promise to madness in a rather short period of
time. I think the writers discovered cocaine.
€œThe owls are not what they seem.€� is the one and only line I still
remember.

leo

On 2019 Dec 19, , Gary wrote
(in article >):

> Bruce wrote:
> > I still don't know who shot JR. Or maybe I forgot.
>
> Barbara Eden
> It was a "ME TOO" issue with her.

Was that before or after Maggie shot Mr. Burns?

leo

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:03:26 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2019 Dec 19, , jmcquown wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> I never saw the TV series Twin Peaks or Game of Thrones. I did just
>> read the book 'A Game of Thrones' by George R.R. Martin, though.
>
>Twin Peaks descended from promise to madness in a rather short period of
>time.

For ME, that was less than 10 minutes.

On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 17:10:34 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2019 Dec 19, , Gary wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>> > I still don't know who shot JR. Or maybe I forgot.
>>
>> Barbara Eden
>> It was a "ME TOO" issue with her.
>
>Was that before or after Maggie shot Mr. Burns?

NO ONE shot anyone, it was ALL just a bad dream.