On 1/10/2020 10:30 AM, Gary wrote:
> Terry Coombs wrote:
>> Â That depends on the roast , the grind , and how much coffee grounds
>> you use . My little 5 cup Mr C ADCM makes a great cup of coffee . Fresh
>> ground medium fine grind blend of 2 8 O'clock varieties makes coffee
>> with a rich full flavor and not bitter at all . It doesn't stay in the
>> pot long enough to get nasty ...
> I also use the 5 cup MrCoffee adcm. Actually called 4 cup but
> I fill mine right to the brim so it makes 5. Their definition
> of a "cup" is laughable though...5 ounces??? What a baby cup
> of coffee that is.
>
> Anyway, I get two full mugs of coffee from a full pot.
> I use 5 TBS of grounds in the filter. I try various kinds
> but it's all about the same. Mainly, I'm addicted to a cup
> first thing in the morning. That's all I drink anymore.

Â* I also get 2 mugs of coffee from my MrC . Couldn't tell you how much
coffee grounds , but it's a slow 8 count while I'm grinding (B&D burr
grinder) .

>
> There was a time when I ground my own beans right before
> brewing. Didn't like that. First thing in the morning, I
> just want a cup immediately. So I ground them the evening
> before so I could just turn on machine in the morning.

Â* I put the coffee on while Max eats his no-poop (long story) treat .
Then we go for a walk while it's brewing . Limbers me up and gives him
an opportunity to take care of his business . When we get home it's
coffee time .
>
> Finally tried buying pre-ground coffee and it tasted just
> as good to me. That's when I turned my coffee grinder into
> a grinder for dry ferret food to make their warm gravy
> meals. All of us were happy here.
>
> For many years in the past, I eventually get tired of
> brewed coffee and will switch to instant for a bit.
> Maxwell House instant is on my grocery list for this morning.
> It's a nice difference for a while.
>
> Especially good since I only drink one cup or less each
> day. Many years ago, I drank the stuff all day long.

Â* I also used to drink coffee all day . I'm drinking 2 cups in the
morning these days . As far as pre-ground , I'd just as soon do without
.. Same with instant , just doesn't taste good to me .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

writes:
>On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 12:55:50 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> I'm kind of thinking about getting one. Give me the pros and cons
>> please. I would probably use the My K-Cup filter approach. How do
>> you find the maintenance for the unit?
>> I don't like Mr. Coffee or percolator type coffee and want to avoid
>> something like that.
>> So far, we are a pot of coffee in the morning family. I think with
>> the Keurig my husband would probably make coffee for himself more
>> often.
>> Are there places where you can get the pods more cheaply?
>> Thanks
>> Janet US
>
>The Keurig and other machines will change the way you make and drink
>coffee. If you want to get away from a pot of coffee every morning,
>getting one of these machines will probably do it. Probably the most
>important factor is being able to get the pods easily and cheaply. If
>you have a Costco near you, just get the machine and supplies they keep
>stock of.

if you want to make single servings get an espresso machine - it
works great for me

I also have pour over for those guests who are not interested in
messing with the machine

I have the torquiose model keurig.
When I turn it on I can select my cup size and strength right then.
Place a k cup in it and turn on the news. Done very soon.

The k cups I buy are Maxwellhouse. 84 cups for 26 bucks from Amazon.
My fave is Folgers black silk but much pricier. 8 o clock is decent too.

I have the other stuff...grinders, french press, drip and perc. Keurig is easy
on the hangover.

The mug is very important to me. Pure white 10 oz from Crate and Barrel.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:30:42 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Terry Coombs wrote:
>>
>> Â That depends on the roast , the grind , and how much coffee grounds
>> you use . My little 5 cup Mr C ADCM makes a great cup of coffee . Fresh
>> ground medium fine grind blend of 2 8 O'clock varieties makes coffee
>> with a rich full flavor and not bitter at all . It doesn't stay in the
>> pot long enough to get nasty ...
>
>I also use the 5 cup MrCoffee adcm. Actually called 4 cup but
>I fill mine right to the brim so it makes 5. Their definition
>of a "cup" is laughable though...5 ounces??? What a baby cup
>of coffee that is.
>
>Anyway, I get two full mugs of coffee from a full pot.
>I use 5 TBS of grounds in the filter. I try various kinds
>but it's all about the same. Mainly, I'm addicted to a cup
>first thing in the morning. That's all I drink anymore.
>
>There was a time when I ground my own beans right before
>brewing. Didn't like that. First thing in the morning, I
>just want a cup immediately. So I ground them the evening
>before so I could just turn on machine in the morning.
>
>Finally tried buying pre-ground coffee and it tasted just
>as good to me. That's when I turned my coffee grinder into
>a grinder for dry ferret food to make their warm gravy
>meals. All of us were happy here.
>
>For many years in the past, I eventually get tired of
>brewed coffee and will switch to instant for a bit.
>Maxwell House instant is on my grocery list for this morning.
>It's a nice difference for a while.
>
>Especially good since I only drink one cup or less each
>day. Many years ago, I drank the stuff all day long.

Then drink the best Jolt Java, BUSTello, brewed with a Morenita.
No other method comes close:
https://www.amazon.com/Bialetti-More...8 8727&sr=8-1
https://www.cafebustelo.com/en/coffe...oEFQ&gclsrc=ds

On 1/10/2020 1:50 PM, Thomas wrote:
> I have the torquiose model keurig.
> When I turn it on I can select my cup size and strength right then.
> Place a k cup in it and turn on the news. Done very soon.
>
> The k cups I buy are Maxwellhouse. 84 cups for 26 bucks from Amazon.
> My fave is Folgers black silk but much pricier. 8 o clock is decent too.
>
> I have the other stuff...grinders, french press, drip and perc. Keurig is easy
> on the hangover.
>
> The mug is very important to me. Pure white 10 oz from Crate and Barrel.

Â* Mugs are very important to me too ... my current faves have an
"urbanstar" logo and were purchased at a yard sale for .25 each . Size
is the only important criterion for me , these are just the right size
for 2 cups from my adcm .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...

On 1/10/2020 9:05 AM, heyjoe wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:24:07 -0700
> in Message-ID: >
> U.S. Janet B. wrote :
>
>> Mr. Coffee makes colored hot water IMO
> Are you using the same size grind for Mr Coffee as you are for Melitta?
> For me, I need to use a finer grind for Mr Coffee than for pour over.
> Otherwise, the water pours through too quickly, resulting in poor
> extraction. Another thing that helps with Mr Coffee, I use two filters
> instead of just one.
>
> For me, Mr Coffee is never as good as pour over, but is more convenient.
> If you're used to pour over coffee, nothing else will be quite as good,
> IMO.
>

Dammit , y'all keep extolling the virtues of pour-over I may just
have to get one and try it . Max (Doggus Maximus the Handsome Hairball)
and I really look forward to our first (and his only) cup in the morning
.. He watches closely as I take my first sip , if i tell him this is a
lousy cup this morning he rolls his eyes ... and gets excited when I say
hey , this is some goooood coffee . He drinks it (with plenty of milk)
either way ...

Snag

===

LOL my lovely dog won't touch coffee))

On 2020-01-10 12:18 p.m., tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:

>> The Keurig and other machines will change the way you make and drink
>> coffee. If you want to get away from a pot of coffee every morning,
>> getting one of these machines will probably do it. Probably the most
>> important factor is being able to get the pods easily and cheaply. If
>> you have a Costco near you, just get the machine and supplies they keep
>> stock of.
>
> if you want to make single servings get an espresso machine - it
> works great for me
>
> I also have pour over for those guests who are not interested in
> messing with the machine
>

That's what we did. My wife can make a pretty good single cup nor 2-3
cups of coffee in a French press but I have never mastered that. The
espresso machine makes an excellent single cup. In my experience, a
Nespresso is a close runner up, but a lot more expensive to buy and to use.

On 1/10/2020 3:21 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Terry Coombs"Â* wrote in message ...
> On 1/10/2020 9:05 AM, heyjoe wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:24:07 -0700
>> in Message-ID: >
>> U.S. Janet B. wrote :
>>
>>> Mr. Coffee makes colored hot water IMO
>> Are you using the same size grind for Mr Coffee as you are for Melitta?
>> For me, I need to use a finer grind for Mr Coffee than for pour over.
>> Otherwise, the water pours through too quickly, resulting in poor
>> extraction.Â* Another thing that helps with Mr Coffee, I use two filters
>> instead of just one.
>>
>> For me, Mr Coffee is never as good as pour over, but is more convenient.
>> If you're used to pour over coffee, nothing else will be quite as good,
>> IMO.
>>
>
> Â* Dammit , y'all keep extolling the virtues of pour-over I may just
> have to get one and try it . Max (Doggus Maximus the Handsome
> Hairball) and I really look forward to our first (and his only) cup in
> the morning . He watches closely as I take my first sip , if i tell
> him this is a lousy cup this morning he rolls his eyes ... and gets
> excited when I say hey , this is some goooood coffee . He drinks it
> (with plenty of milk) either way ...
>
> Â*Snag
>
> ===
>
> Â* LOLÂ* my lovely dog won't touch coffee))
>
>

Â* Max's coffee is about 80% milk ... he loves any kind of dairy product
.. When I have a bowl of ice cream he'll literally drool a small puddle
in anticipation of getting to lick the bowl .

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

"Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...

On 1/10/2020 3:21 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Terry Coombs" wrote in message ...
> On 1/10/2020 9:05 AM, heyjoe wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:24:07 -0700
>> in Message-ID: >
>> U.S. Janet B. wrote :
>>
>>> Mr. Coffee makes colored hot water IMO
>> Are you using the same size grind for Mr Coffee as you are for Melitta?
>> For me, I need to use a finer grind for Mr Coffee than for pour over.
>> Otherwise, the water pours through too quickly, resulting in poor
>> extraction. Another thing that helps with Mr Coffee, I use two filters
>> instead of just one.
>>
>> For me, Mr Coffee is never as good as pour over, but is more convenient.
>> If you're used to pour over coffee, nothing else will be quite as good,
>> IMO.
>>
>
> Dammit , y'all keep extolling the virtues of pour-over I may just
> have to get one and try it . Max (Doggus Maximus the Handsome
> Hairball) and I really look forward to our first (and his only) cup in
> the morning . He watches closely as I take my first sip , if i tell
> him this is a lousy cup this morning he rolls his eyes ... and gets
> excited when I say hey , this is some goooood coffee . He drinks it
> (with plenty of milk) either way ...
>
> Snag
>
> ===
>
> LOL my lovely dog won't touch coffee))
>
>

Max's coffee is about 80% milk ... he loves any kind of dairy product
.. When I have a bowl of ice cream he'll literally drool a small puddle
in anticipation of getting to lick the bowl .

Snag

===

Aww bless him) LOL Poppy loves ice cream )

On 1/8/20 2:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I'm kind of thinking about getting one. Give me the pros and cons
> please. I would probably use the My K-Cup filter approach. How do
> you find the maintenance for the unit?
> I don't like Mr. Coffee or percolator type coffee and want to avoid
> something like that.
> So far, we are a pot of coffee in the morning family. I think with
> the Keurig my husband would probably make coffee for himself more
> often.
> Are there places where you can get the pods more cheaply?
> Thanks
> Janet US
>
Everyone I know who owns a keurig complains that, over time, the output
begins to decline. What starts as a full cup of coffee whittles down to
half a cup and sometimes less. They give up and get a new machine after
a while. Considering the premium involved in procuring these machines,
it sounds like much too high a cost than is worth.

I've had many keurig cups from various locations (friends houses,
theaters, work) and I've never had a cup of any variety where I simply
had to have it again. They were all average.

For me, a regular old drip coffee maker with good beans will make an
excellent cup of coffee provided the amount of beans is appropriate for
my taste.

--
Daniel

Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world

On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 1:07:19 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
> On 1/8/20 2:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> > I'm kind of thinking about getting one. Give me the pros and cons
> > please. I would probably use the My K-Cup filter approach. How do
> > you find the maintenance for the unit?
> > I don't like Mr. Coffee or percolator type coffee and want to avoid
> > something like that.
> > So far, we are a pot of coffee in the morning family. I think with
> > the Keurig my husband would probably make coffee for himself more
> > often.
> > Are there places where you can get the pods more cheaply?
> > Thanks
> > Janet US
> >
> Everyone I know who owns a keurig complains that, over time, the output
> begins to decline. What starts as a full cup of coffee whittles down to
> half a cup and sometimes less. They give up and get a new machine after
> a while. Considering the premium involved in procuring these machines,
> it sounds like much too high a cost than is worth.
>
> I've had many keurig cups from various locations (friends houses,
> theaters, work) and I've never had a cup of any variety where I simply
> had to have it again. They were all average.
>
> For me, a regular old drip coffee maker with good beans will make an
> excellent cup of coffee provided the amount of beans is appropriate for
> my taste.
>
> --
> Daniel
>
> Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world

That's the problem I had with my Keurig - the water metering was pretty sketchy. It's a major problem with these machines - or, at least, it used to. OTOH, the availability of the pods is a major consideration. It seems that everyone makes K-cups.

On 1/12/20 4:37 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 1:07:19 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
>> On 1/8/20 2:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm kind of thinking about getting one. Give me the pros and cons
>>> please. I would probably use the My K-Cup filter approach. How do
>>> you find the maintenance for the unit?
>>> I don't like Mr. Coffee or percolator type coffee and want to avoid
>>> something like that.
>>> So far, we are a pot of coffee in the morning family. I think with
>>> the Keurig my husband would probably make coffee for himself more
>>> often.
>>> Are there places where you can get the pods more cheaply?
>>> Thanks
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Everyone I know who owns a keurig complains that, over time, the output
>> begins to decline. What starts as a full cup of coffee whittles down to
>> half a cup and sometimes less. They give up and get a new machine after
>> a while. Considering the premium involved in procuring these machines,
>> it sounds like much too high a cost than is worth.
>>
>> I've had many keurig cups from various locations (friends houses,
>> theaters, work) and I've never had a cup of any variety where I simply
>> had to have it again. They were all average.
>>
>> For me, a regular old drip coffee maker with good beans will make an
>> excellent cup of coffee provided the amount of beans is appropriate for
>> my taste.
>
> That's the problem I had with my Keurig - the water metering was pretty sketchy. It's a major problem with these machines - or, at least, it used to. OTOH, the availability of the pods is a major consideration. It seems that everyone makes K-cups.
>
well yeah, the profit margin is higher because they're selling far less
coffee for far more. The cost is coffee, the little plastic cups they
come in are very cheap and bought in bulk out of china.

If I were a coffee producer I'd make kcups too and would market the
ease. It's a brilliant business model if you ask me.

--
Daniel

Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world

On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 8:06:27 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
> On 1/12/20 4:37 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 1:07:19 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
> >> On 1/8/20 2:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I'm kind of thinking about getting one. Give me the pros and cons
> >>> please. I would probably use the My K-Cup filter approach. How do
> >>> you find the maintenance for the unit?
> >>> I don't like Mr. Coffee or percolator type coffee and want to avoid
> >>> something like that.
> >>> So far, we are a pot of coffee in the morning family. I think with
> >>> the Keurig my husband would probably make coffee for himself more
> >>> often.
> >>> Are there places where you can get the pods more cheaply?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Janet US
> >>>
> >> Everyone I know who owns a keurig complains that, over time, the output
> >> begins to decline. What starts as a full cup of coffee whittles down to
> >> half a cup and sometimes less. They give up and get a new machine after
> >> a while. Considering the premium involved in procuring these machines,
> >> it sounds like much too high a cost than is worth.
> >>
> >> I've had many keurig cups from various locations (friends houses,
> >> theaters, work) and I've never had a cup of any variety where I simply
> >> had to have it again. They were all average.
> >>
> >> For me, a regular old drip coffee maker with good beans will make an
> >> excellent cup of coffee provided the amount of beans is appropriate for
> >> my taste.
> >
> > That's the problem I had with my Keurig - the water metering was pretty sketchy. It's a major problem with these machines - or, at least, it used to. OTOH, the availability of the pods is a major consideration. It seems that everyone makes K-cups.
> >
> well yeah, the profit margin is higher because they're selling far less
> coffee for far more. The cost is coffee, the little plastic cups they
> come in are very cheap and bought in bulk out of china.
>
> If I were a coffee producer I'd make kcups too and would market the
> ease. It's a brilliant business model if you ask me.
>
> --
> Daniel
>
> Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world

When I had my business, it really seemed to be the only way that I could make the occasional customer a fresh cup of coffee. I offered coffee to everyone that came in. If they wanted one, I could provide it fast! That's pretty brilliant.

On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:20:27 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 8:06:27 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
>> On 1/12/20 4:37 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 1:07:19 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
>> >> On 1/8/20 2:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm kind of thinking about getting one. Give me the pros and cons
>> >>> please. I would probably use the My K-Cup filter approach. How do
>> >>> you find the maintenance for the unit?
>> >>> I don't like Mr. Coffee or percolator type coffee and want to avoid
>> >>> something like that.
>> >>> So far, we are a pot of coffee in the morning family. I think with
>> >>> the Keurig my husband would probably make coffee for himself more
>> >>> often.
>> >>> Are there places where you can get the pods more cheaply?
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Janet US
>> >>>
>> >> Everyone I know who owns a keurig complains that, over time, the output
>> >> begins to decline. What starts as a full cup of coffee whittles down to
>> >> half a cup and sometimes less. They give up and get a new machine after
>> >> a while. Considering the premium involved in procuring these machines,
>> >> it sounds like much too high a cost than is worth.
>> >>
>> >> I've had many keurig cups from various locations (friends houses,
>> >> theaters, work) and I've never had a cup of any variety where I simply
>> >> had to have it again. They were all average.
>> >>
>> >> For me, a regular old drip coffee maker with good beans will make an
>> >> excellent cup of coffee provided the amount of beans is appropriate for
>> >> my taste.
>> >
>> > That's the problem I had with my Keurig - the water metering was pretty sketchy. It's a major problem with these machines - or, at least, it used to. OTOH, the availability of the pods is a major consideration. It seems that everyone makes K-cups.
>> >
>> well yeah, the profit margin is higher because they're selling far less
>> coffee for far more. The cost is coffee, the little plastic cups they
>> come in are very cheap and bought in bulk out of china.
>>
>> If I were a coffee producer I'd make kcups too and would market the
>> ease. It's a brilliant business model if you ask me.
>>
>> --
>> Daniel
>>
>> Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
>
>When I had my business, it really seemed to be the only way that I could make the occasional customer a fresh cup of coffee. I offered coffee to everyone that came in. If they wanted one, I could provide it fast! That's pretty brilliant.

Man has business.
Man serves customers coffee from cups.
Man no longer has business.

Think about it.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:30:42 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>I also use the 5 cup MrCoffee adcm. Actually called 4 cup but
>I fill mine right to the brim so it makes 5. Their definition
>of a "cup" is laughable though...5 ounces??? What a baby cup
>of coffee that is.

But you're the average American. That means your überanglo. Which, in
turn, means that you think coffee is slightly stronger tea. That's why
you want a lot of it.

>Anyway, I get two full mugs of coffee from a full pot.
>I use 5 TBS of grounds in the filter. I try various kinds
>but it's all about the same. Mainly, I'm addicted to a cup
>first thing in the morning. That's all I drink anymore.
>
>There was a time when I ground my own beans right before
>brewing. Didn't like that. First thing in the morning, I
>just want a cup immediately. So I ground them the evening
>before so I could just turn on machine in the morning.

Brilliant solution.

>Finally tried buying pre-ground coffee and it tasted just
>as good to me. That's when I turned my coffee grinder into
>a grinder for dry ferret food to make their warm gravy
>meals. All of us were happy here.
>
>For many years in the past, I eventually get tired of
>brewed coffee and will switch to instant for a bit.

Eew, instant coffee! That's the Anglo coming out in full force

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 11:03:08 -0600, Terry Coombs >
wrote:

>On 1/10/2020 10:30 AM, Gary wrote:

>> Especially good since I only drink one cup or less each
>> day. Many years ago, I drank the stuff all day long.
>
> Â* I also used to drink coffee all day . I'm drinking 2 cups in the
>morning these days . As far as pre-ground , I'd just as soon do without
>. Same with instant , just doesn't taste good to me .

The smell alone turns me off. Unless we're in a motel or summin' and
it's the only option until we leave the place.

On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 13:33:25 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-01-09 11:57 a.m., jay wrote:
>> On 1/9/20 9:41 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>omething you may want on a daily basis.
>>>
>>> IMO, even that might be generous. I think it tastes more like instant
>>> coffee than real, freshly made coffee.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe so. I do know that there is a big difference in taste based on the
>> Kcup brand. One place we were staying had maybe 15 different brands and
>> various roasts and some were far better than others. Still not "real"
>> coffee.
>
>There was a coffee shop where my wife and her walking group went a
>couple times. Some of them liked it because there were so many types and
>flavors of coffee to try. I met her there once and realized it was a
>just Keurig coffee.

Fascinating stuff, thanks.

On 2020-01-13 3:20 a.m., dsi1 wrote:

> When I had my business, it really seemed to be the only way that I
> could make the occasional customer a fresh cup of coffee. I offered
> coffee to everyone that came in. If they wanted one, I could provide
> it fast! That's pretty brilliant.

That is probably the best way to provide coffee to customers. It is
easy to make a cup. It makes a mediocre cup of coffee that is better
than instant and much better that a drip coffee that has been sitting in
pot on a burner for a few hours. I have not been impressed with Keurig
coffee. It is not horrible. It just isn't very good for a freshly made
coffee.

On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 11:34:16 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:20:27 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 8:06:27 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
> >> On 1/12/20 4:37 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, January 12, 2020 at 1:07:19 PM UTC-10, Daniel wrote:
> >> >> On 1/8/20 2:55 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'm kind of thinking about getting one. Give me the pros and cons
> >> >>> please. I would probably use the My K-Cup filter approach. How do
> >> >>> you find the maintenance for the unit?
> >> >>> I don't like Mr. Coffee or percolator type coffee and want to avoid
> >> >>> something like that.
> >> >>> So far, we are a pot of coffee in the morning family. I think with
> >> >>> the Keurig my husband would probably make coffee for himself more
> >> >>> often.
> >> >>> Are there places where you can get the pods more cheaply?
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>> Janet US
> >> >>>
> >> >> Everyone I know who owns a keurig complains that, over time, the output
> >> >> begins to decline. What starts as a full cup of coffee whittles down to
> >> >> half a cup and sometimes less. They give up and get a new machine after
> >> >> a while. Considering the premium involved in procuring these machines,
> >> >> it sounds like much too high a cost than is worth.
> >> >>
> >> >> I've had many keurig cups from various locations (friends houses,
> >> >> theaters, work) and I've never had a cup of any variety where I simply
> >> >> had to have it again. They were all average.
> >> >>
> >> >> For me, a regular old drip coffee maker with good beans will make an
> >> >> excellent cup of coffee provided the amount of beans is appropriate for
> >> >> my taste.
> >> >
> >> > That's the problem I had with my Keurig - the water metering was pretty sketchy. It's a major problem with these machines - or, at least, it used to. OTOH, the availability of the pods is a major consideration. It seems that everyone makes K-cups.
> >> >
> >> well yeah, the profit margin is higher because they're selling far less
> >> coffee for far more. The cost is coffee, the little plastic cups they
> >> come in are very cheap and bought in bulk out of china.
> >>
> >> If I were a coffee producer I'd make kcups too and would market the
> >> ease. It's a brilliant business model if you ask me.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Daniel
> >>
> >> Visit me at: gopher://gcpp.world
> >
> >When I had my business, it really seemed to be the only way that I could make the occasional customer a fresh cup of coffee. I offered coffee to everyone that came in. If they wanted one, I could provide it fast! That's pretty brilliant.
>
> Man has business.
> Man serves customers coffee from cups.
> Man no longer has business.
>
> Think about it.

I was not in the food service business and my wife got cancer.

Think about it.

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 5:19:57 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-01-13 3:20 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > When I had my business, it really seemed to be the only way that I
> > could make the occasional customer a fresh cup of coffee. I offered
> > coffee to everyone that came in. If they wanted one, I could provide
> > it fast! That's pretty brilliant.
>
> That is probably the best way to provide coffee to customers. It is
> easy to make a cup. It makes a mediocre cup of coffee that is better
> than instant and much better that a drip coffee that has been sitting in
> pot on a burner for a few hours. I have not been impressed with Keurig
> coffee. It is not horrible. It just isn't very good for a freshly made
> coffee.

I started with a drip machine. Boy did that coffee get ripe after a few hours. Just thinking about it makes me want to go out and buy another machine.

On 2020-01-13 11:24 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 5:19:57 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> That is probably the best way to provide coffee to customers. It
>> is easy to make a cup. It makes a mediocre cup of coffee that is
>> better than instant and much better that a drip coffee that has
>> been sitting in pot on a burner for a few hours. I have not been
>> impressed with Keurig coffee. It is not horrible. It just isn't
>> very good for a freshly made coffee.
>
> I started with a drip machine. Boy did that coffee get ripe after a
> few hours. Just thinking about it makes me want to go out and buy
> another machine.
>

I would expect that the drip machine would make much better coffee ....
when it was fresh, but that it would sit around and get bitter and awful
tasting. The Keurig would make a single cup of coffee that was not quite
as good as the fresh drip, but it would be better than the drip coffee
that had sat around around too long.

On 1/13/2020 2:09 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2020-01-13 11:24 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 5:19:57 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>
>>> That is probably the best way to provide coffee to customers.Â* It
>>> is easy to make a cup. It makes a mediocre cup of coffee that is
>>> better than instant and much better that a drip coffee that has
>>> been sitting in pot on a burner for a few hours.Â* I have not been
>>> impressed with Keurig coffee. It is not horrible. It just isn't
>>> very good for a freshly made coffee.
>>
>> I started with a drip machine. Boy did that coffee get ripe after a
>> few hours. Just thinking about it makes me want to go out and buy
>> another machine.
>>
>
> I would expect that the drip machine would make much better coffee ....
> when it was fresh, but that it would sit around and get bitter and awful
> tasting. The Keurig would make a single cup of coffee that was not quite
> as good as the fresh drip, but it would be better than the drip coffee
> that hadÂ* sat around around too long.

Sitting on a hot plate to keep it warm does make it nasty. Let it stand
or refrigerate it and nuke it gently and it is OK even the next day.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
....
> Sitting on a hot plate to keep it warm does make it nasty. Let it stand
> or refrigerate it and nuke it gently and it is OK even the next day.

mostly true for me, except the oxidation off-flavors that
happen if the coffee is left sitting and air is allowed
to get in/out.

the best storage method i found was a thermos, put the coffee
in when it was hot (so the air above the coffee was also hot)
and then seal it up. that would create enough of a vacuum.

once i opened it back up to use then it would be used up
and not resealed.

i don't drink that much coffee these days to go through
such a process, i just have instant fake coffee that i use
and once in a while i add some real instant coffee and that
is good enough if i want a bit of a jolt, but it doesn't
take much to get me pretty wired.


songbird

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 08:57:07 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>...
>> Sitting on a hot plate to keep it warm does make it nasty. Let it stand
>> or refrigerate it and nuke it gently and it is OK even the next day.
>
> mostly true for me, except the oxidation off-flavors that
>happen if the coffee is left sitting and air is allowed
>to get in/out.
>
> the best storage method i found was a thermos, put the coffee
>in when it was hot (so the air above the coffee was also hot)
>and then seal it up. that would create enough of a vacuum.
>
> once i opened it back up to use then it would be used up
>and not resealed.
>
> i don't drink that much coffee these days to go through
>such a process, i just have instant fake coffee that i use
>and once in a while i add some real instant coffee and that
>is good enough if i want a bit of a jolt, but it doesn't
>take much to get me pretty wired.
>
> songbird

I'm the one who prepares the ADC each day for the next morning. For
two of us I prepare it to make 11 cups, the 12 cup mark is a bit much
for us. Even at 11 cups sometimes there's some remaining but we don't
save it. Neither of us drinks coffee during the day,,, my wife is a
tea drinker, I drink plain water until evening when I prefer Sprite
with Crystal Palace. I see no point in xaving a cup of coffee unless
it's going to be used for cooking/baking.

writes:
>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 08:57:07 -0500, songbird >
>wrote:
>
>>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>...
>>> Sitting on a hot plate to keep it warm does make it nasty. Let it stand
>>> or refrigerate it and nuke it gently and it is OK even the next day.
>>
>> mostly true for me, except the oxidation off-flavors that
>>happen if the coffee is left sitting and air is allowed
>>to get in/out.
>>
>> the best storage method i found was a thermos, put the coffee
>>in when it was hot (so the air above the coffee was also hot)
>>and then seal it up. that would create enough of a vacuum.
>>
>> once i opened it back up to use then it would be used up
>>and not resealed.
>>
>> i don't drink that much coffee these days to go through
>>such a process, i just have instant fake coffee that i use
>>and once in a while i add some real instant coffee and that
>>is good enough if i want a bit of a jolt, but it doesn't
>>take much to get me pretty wired.
>>
>> songbird
>
>I'm the one who prepares the ADC each day for the next morning. For
>two of us I prepare it to make 11 cups, the 12 cup mark is a bit much
>for us. Even at 11 cups sometimes there's some remaining but we don't
>save it. Neither of us drinks coffee during the day,,, my wife is a
>tea drinker, I drink plain water until evening when I prefer Sprite
>with Crystal Palace. I see no point in xaving a cup of coffee unless
>it's going to be used for cooking/baking.

"evening" starts at 3pm in the Katz household

On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:57:07 -0500, wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 08:57:07 -0500, songbird >
>wrote:
>
>>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>...
>>> Sitting on a hot plate to keep it warm does make it nasty. Let it stand
>>> or refrigerate it and nuke it gently and it is OK even the next day.
>>
>> mostly true for me, except the oxidation off-flavors that
>>happen if the coffee is left sitting and air is allowed
>>to get in/out.
>>
>> the best storage method i found was a thermos, put the coffee
>>in when it was hot (so the air above the coffee was also hot)
>>and then seal it up. that would create enough of a vacuum.
>>
>> once i opened it back up to use then it would be used up
>>and not resealed.
>>
>> i don't drink that much coffee these days to go through
>>such a process, i just have instant fake coffee that i use
>>and once in a while i add some real instant coffee and that
>>is good enough if i want a bit of a jolt, but it doesn't
>>take much to get me pretty wired.
>>
>> songbird
>
>I'm the one who prepares the ADC each day for the next morning. For
>two of us I prepare it to make 11 cups, the 12 cup mark is a bit much
>for us. Even at 11 cups sometimes there's some remaining but we don't
>save it. Neither of us drinks coffee during the day,,, my wife is a
>tea drinker, I drink plain water until evening when I prefer Sprite
>with Crystal Palace. I see no point in xaving a cup of coffee unless
>it's going to be used for cooking/baking.

My 8-cup Melitta makes 2 cups for my husband and one cup for me and
then the pot is empty. Perfect
Janet US

On 1/14/2020 11:37 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:57:07 -0500, wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 08:57:07 -0500, songbird >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> Sitting on a hot plate to keep it warm does make it nasty. Let it stand
>>>> or refrigerate it and nuke it gently and it is OK even the next day.
>>> mostly true for me, except the oxidation off-flavors that
>>> happen if the coffee is left sitting and air is allowed
>>> to get in/out.
>>>
>>> the best storage method i found was a thermos, put the coffee
>>> in when it was hot (so the air above the coffee was also hot)
>>> and then seal it up. that would create enough of a vacuum.
>>>
>>> once i opened it back up to use then it would be used up
>>> and not resealed.
>>>
>>> i don't drink that much coffee these days to go through
>>> such a process, i just have instant fake coffee that i use
>>> and once in a while i add some real instant coffee and that
>>> is good enough if i want a bit of a jolt, but it doesn't
>>> take much to get me pretty wired.
>>>
>>> songbird
>> I'm the one who prepares the ADC each day for the next morning. For
>> two of us I prepare it to make 11 cups, the 12 cup mark is a bit much
>> for us. Even at 11 cups sometimes there's some remaining but we don't
>> save it. Neither of us drinks coffee during the day,,, my wife is a
>> tea drinker, I drink plain water until evening when I prefer Sprite
>> with Crystal Palace. I see no point in xaving a cup of coffee unless
>> it's going to be used for cooking/baking.
> My 8-cup Melitta makes 2 cups for my husband and one cup for me and
> then the pot is empty. Perfect
> Janet US

Â* My 5 cup Me C makes one very full cup (which I share with Max) and
one just right cup (which I do not share) . Usually about a tablespoon
or two left , just enough that I don't end up with the very fine grounds
that get past the permanent screen filter cone .

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