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Ophelia wrote:
> > "Jeßus" wrote: > An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer > lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just > too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep > pruned it to death... > > == > > The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> Lemon leaf fed sheep....yum! Have you seen the funny commercial lately showing a baby sitting in a high chair (I'm guessing). Someone gave it a lemon wedge. Baby takes a bite, shudders with a horrified face but then keeps trying to eat it and shudders each time. So funny to see and I still have no idea what they are advertising. ![]() |
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"Gary" wrote in message ...
Ophelia wrote: > > "Jeßus" wrote: > An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer > lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just > too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep > pruned it to death... > > == > > The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> Lemon leaf fed sheep....yum! Have you seen the funny commercial lately showing a baby sitting in a high chair (I'm guessing). Someone gave it a lemon wedge. Baby takes a bite, shudders with a horrified face but then keeps trying to eat it and shudders each time. So funny to see and I still have no idea what they are advertising. ![]() === No I haven't seen that, but I doubt we get the same adverts ![]() I sounds pretty funny to me though ![]() |
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On 2020-01-15 12:39 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:19:10 -0700, graham wrote: > >> Last night I cooked a dish from an old BBC "Good Food" magazine: Chicken >> with lemon, tarragon and crème fraîche by Mary Cadogan. >> The recipe was for: >> 2 lemons >> 4 chicken breasts with skin >> Fresh tarragon >> Wholegrain mustard >> 200ml crème fraîche >> >> I had to modify it slightly because only skinless breasts were >> available. She instructed to put thin slices of lemon and sprigs of >> tarragon under the skin before squeezing the juice from the remaining >> 1.5 lemons. >> Spread each with the mustard and roast for 20 minutes at 375F. Then >> sprinkle the chicken with chopped tarragon and pour over the lemon juice >> and roast for another 10 minutes. Remove breasts and keep warm while you >> thicken the sauce with the cream on the hob. >> >> I cooked the chicken on a bed of tarragon with the lemon slices instead. >> The chicken was delicious but the lemon flavour in the sauce was waaay >> too strong. The sour cream substitute didn't thicken the sauce much and >> I had to add a little flour. >> >> I've come across the lemon problem before and in future, I will halve >> the number of lemons specified in savoury dishes. > > Since it was probably just too acidic rather than too much lemon > flavor, I would have added a pinch(*) of baking soda to the sauce > when I tasted it. Do this before thickening. > > I also use this spaghetti/pasta sauces when using canned tomatoes > that have added citric acid. It makes huge improvement and brings > out some sweetness. It also cures any "harsh" flavors from sauces > and gravies made from meat drippings, especially those left in the > bag from sous vide meat (I can't explain this last one as there > shouldn't be any acid in there unless you got some lacto taint from > a longer cook of 6+ hours at less than 142F). > > Pinch, stir well, and wait for any foaming to subside (15 seconds). > Taste, rinse, repeat if necessary. It's very easy to remove too > much (or all) of the acid. > > (*) 1/4 tsp would probably take out ALL the acid from 2 lemons. > > =sw > That's an interesting take on acidic foods. Most add a bit of sugar to tomato sauces to overcome the harshness. On another tack, why do restaurants always serve a lemon segment with fish? I never touch it, preferring to taste the fish as it is. |
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:42:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>Ophelia wrote: >> >> "Jeßus" wrote: >> An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer >> lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just >> too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep >> pruned it to death... >> >> == >> >> The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> > >Lemon leaf fed sheep....yum! > >Have you seen the funny commercial lately showing a baby >sitting in a high chair (I'm guessing). Someone gave it a >lemon wedge. Baby takes a bite, shudders with a horrified >face but then keeps trying to eat it and shudders each time. >So funny to see and I still have no idea what they are >advertising. ![]() those are the best commercials, the ones where you have no idea what the product is but you want to see the commercial again Janet US |
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On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 11:12:39 AM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> On another tack, why do restaurants always serve a lemon segment with > fish? I never touch it, preferring to taste the fish as it is. I like to change it up. Sometimes I eat fish without anything. Sometimes I squeeze on a little lemon. Sometimes I use ponzu. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 10:42:04 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>Ophelia wrote: >> >> "Jeßus" wrote: >> An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer >> lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just >> too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep >> pruned it to death... >> >> == >> >> The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> > >Lemon leaf fed sheep....yum! > >Have you seen the funny commercial lately showing a baby >sitting in a high chair (I'm guessing). Someone gave it a >lemon wedge. Baby takes a bite, shudders with a horrified >face but then keeps trying to eat it and shudders each time. >So funny to see and I still have no idea what they are >advertising. ![]() Cigarettes? |
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:26:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 9:05:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >> graham wrote: >> > >> > I've come across the lemon problem before and in future, I will halve >> > the number of lemons specified in savoury dishes. >> >> I've read all the responses and I'm surprised that lemon zest >> was never mentioned or used. To me, zest is a good lemon >> taste without all the sour from the juice. > >I usually want the sour so I use the juice and not the zest. Pity >we're too far apart for reciprocal lemon usage. > >> I've had problems using lemon with chicken too. Often too sour. >> I do love "lemon pepper" chicken but I rely on a good dry >> spice mix for it. >> >> Key word though is "good" >> I've tried good and bad blends. > >I like Penzey's, but it's probably too sour for you. FedEx? |
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 06:09:52 +1100, Bruce >
wrote: >On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:26:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > wrote: > >>On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 9:05:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >>> graham wrote: >>> > >>> > I've come across the lemon problem before and in future, I will halve >>> > the number of lemons specified in savoury dishes. >>> >>> I've read all the responses and I'm surprised that lemon zest >>> was never mentioned or used. To me, zest is a good lemon >>> taste without all the sour from the juice. >> >>I usually want the sour so I use the juice and not the zest. Pity >>we're too far apart for reciprocal lemon usage. >> >>> I've had problems using lemon with chicken too. Often too sour. >>> I do love "lemon pepper" chicken but I rely on a good dry >>> spice mix for it. >>> >>> Key word though is "good" >>> I've tried good and bad blends. >> >>I like Penzey's, but it's probably too sour for you. > >FedEx? a for-pay delivery service as opposed to the United States Mail. Federal Express. For instance a delivery from Amazon may come from FedEx, or United Parcel Service UPS |
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:20:12 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote: >On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 06:09:52 +1100, Bruce > >wrote: > >>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 06:26:11 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton > wrote: >> >>>On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 9:05:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote: >>>> graham wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I've come across the lemon problem before and in future, I will halve >>>> > the number of lemons specified in savoury dishes. >>>> >>>> I've read all the responses and I'm surprised that lemon zest >>>> was never mentioned or used. To me, zest is a good lemon >>>> taste without all the sour from the juice. >>> >>>I usually want the sour so I use the juice and not the zest. Pity >>>we're too far apart for reciprocal lemon usage. >>> >>>> I've had problems using lemon with chicken too. Often too sour. >>>> I do love "lemon pepper" chicken but I rely on a good dry >>>> spice mix for it. >>>> >>>> Key word though is "good" >>>> I've tried good and bad blends. >>> >>>I like Penzey's, but it's probably too sour for you. >> >>FedEx? > >a for-pay delivery service as opposed to the United States Mail. >Federal Express. For instance a delivery from Amazon may come from >FedEx, or United Parcel Service UPS Thanks. |
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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 11:12:39 AM UTC-5, graham wrote: > >> On another tack, why do restaurants always serve a lemon segment with >> fish? I never touch it, preferring to taste the fish as it is. > > I like to change it up. Sometimes I eat fish without anything. Sometimes I > squeeze on a little lemon. Sometimes I use ponzu. i usually don't really want lemon plain on fish but i do like tartar sauce (homemade is best). i like the lemon in that. however, if the fish is good quality i much prefer it plain or with a very light garlic butter and some fresh dill. songbird |
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:01 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote: >"Jeßus" wrote in message ... > >On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:57:54 -0500, Mike Duffy > >wrote: > >>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:27:10 +1100, Je?s wrote: >> >>> Sweeter, I think. Meyer lemons are not true lemons though, >> >>True, it is a hybrid. Here is the wikipedia entry: >> >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_lemon > >An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer >lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just >too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep >pruned it to death... > >== > > The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> They've even all our rosemary bushes too (!). Not sure if they're just being selfish, or being considerate in regards to their ultimate destiny. Oh, and our rhubarb... most of it is gone now. |
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On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 4:55:44 PM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 11:12:39 AM UTC-5, graham wrote: > > > >> On another tack, why do restaurants always serve a lemon segment with > >> fish? I never touch it, preferring to taste the fish as it is. > > > > I like to change it up. Sometimes I eat fish without anything. Sometimes I > > squeeze on a little lemon. Sometimes I use ponzu. > > i usually don't really want lemon plain on fish > but i do like tartar sauce (homemade is best). i like > the lemon in that. I use tartar sauce only on deep-fried fish, which I very rarely eat. Usually it's grilled Atlantic salmon, which I like for its mild flavor. Cindy Hamilton |
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graham wrote:
> On another tack, why do restaurants always serve a lemon segment with > fish? I never touch it, preferring to taste the fish as it is. Same with me although I will squeeze lemon on before cooking. My favorite way with most fish: - a small filet or two of most any fish - set skin side down on a foil lined sheet pan - spread a bit of mayo (it melts so all you get is a glaze) - add plenty of minced onion - squeeze of lemon on top Place underneath a broiler until the onions brown. Simple and delicious. |
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"Jeßus" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:01 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"Jeßus" wrote in message ... > >On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:57:54 -0500, Mike Duffy > >wrote: > >>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:27:10 +1100, Je?s wrote: >> >>> Sweeter, I think. Meyer lemons are not true lemons though, >> >>True, it is a hybrid. Here is the wikipedia entry: >> >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_lemon > >An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer >lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just >too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep >pruned it to death... > >== > > The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> They've even all our rosemary bushes too (!). Not sure if they're just being selfish, or being considerate in regards to their ultimate destiny. Oh, and our rhubarb... most of it is gone now. === Oh heck ![]() bushes and rhubarb?? Sorry I was just joking but I wouldn't like it to happen to my stuff ![]() |
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:17:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote: >"Jeßus" wrote in message ... > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:01 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > >> The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> > >They've even all our rosemary bushes too (!). Not sure if they're just >being selfish, or being considerate in regards to their ultimate >destiny. > >Oh, and our rhubarb... most of it is gone now. > >=== > > Oh heck ![]() >bushes and rhubarb?? > >Sorry I was just joking but I wouldn't like it to happen to my stuff ![]() Who grows vegetables where sheep have access? |
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"Bruce" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:17:11 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"Jeßus" wrote in message ... > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:01 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > >> The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> > >They've even all our rosemary bushes too (!). Not sure if they're just >being selfish, or being considerate in regards to their ultimate >destiny. > >Oh, and our rhubarb... most of it is gone now. > >=== > > Oh heck ![]() >bushes and rhubarb?? > >Sorry I was just joking but I wouldn't like it to happen to my stuff ![]() Who grows vegetables where sheep have access? === I have no idea! |
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On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:17:11 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote: >"Jeßus" wrote in message ... > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:01 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > >>"Jeßus" wrote in message ... >> >>On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:57:54 -0500, Mike Duffy > >>wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:27:10 +1100, Je?s wrote: >>> >>>> Sweeter, I think. Meyer lemons are not true lemons though, >>> >>>True, it is a hybrid. Here is the wikipedia entry: >>> >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_lemon >> >>An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer >>lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just >>too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep >>pruned it to death... >> >>== >> >> The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> > >They've even all our rosemary bushes too (!). Not sure if they're just >being selfish, or being considerate in regards to their ultimate >destiny. > >Oh, and our rhubarb... most of it is gone now. > >=== > > Oh heck ![]() >bushes and rhubarb?? > >Sorry I was just joking but I wouldn't like it to happen to my stuff ![]() Heh, it's OK ![]() herbs and fruits. Only because we let them in around the house yard occasionally. The veggie garden and orchard is fully caged and possum and sheep proof ![]() |
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"Jeßus" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:17:11 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: >"Jeßus" wrote in message ... > >On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:01 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > >>"Jeßus" wrote in message ... >> >>On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:57:54 -0500, Mike Duffy > >>wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:27:10 +1100, Je?s wrote: >>> >>>> Sweeter, I think. Meyer lemons are not true lemons though, >>> >>>True, it is a hybrid. Here is the wikipedia entry: >>> >>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_lemon >> >>An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer >>lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just >>too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep >>pruned it to death... >> >>== >> >> The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> > >They've even all our rosemary bushes too (!). Not sure if they're just >being selfish, or being considerate in regards to their ultimate >destiny. > >Oh, and our rhubarb... most of it is gone now. > >=== > > Oh heck ![]() >bushes and rhubarb?? > >Sorry I was just joking but I wouldn't like it to happen to my stuff ![]() Heh, it's OK ![]() herbs and fruits. Only because we let them in around the house yard occasionally. The veggie garden and orchard is fully caged and possum and sheep proof ![]() === Jolly good ![]() ![]() |
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 09:17:59 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote: >"Jeßus" wrote in message ... > >On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 20:17:11 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: > >>"Jeßus" wrote in message ... >> >>On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 14:12:01 -0000, "Ophelia" > wrote: >> >>>"Jeßus" wrote in message ... >>> >>>On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:57:54 -0500, Mike Duffy > >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 13:27:10 +1100, Je?s wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sweeter, I think. Meyer lemons are not true lemons though, >>>> >>>>True, it is a hybrid. Here is the wikipedia entry: >>>> >>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_lemon >>> >>>An a citron and a mandarin/pomelo hybrid ... I tried growing a Meyer >>>lemon (in a large pot) here in NE Tasmania, but the winters were just >>>too cold and it strugged to bear any fruit at all. Then the sheep >>>pruned it to death... >>> >>>== >>> >>> The sheep can't have been very disappointed in them them? <g> >> >>They've even all our rosemary bushes too (!). Not sure if they're just >>being selfish, or being considerate in regards to their ultimate >>destiny. >> >>Oh, and our rhubarb... most of it is gone now. >> >>=== >> >> Oh heck ![]() >>bushes and rhubarb?? >> >>Sorry I was just joking but I wouldn't like it to happen to my stuff ![]() > >Heh, it's OK ![]() >herbs and fruits. Only because we let them in around the house yard >occasionally. The veggie garden and orchard is fully caged and possum >and sheep proof ![]() >=== > > Jolly good ![]() ![]() What about rodents, it's not possible to fence out mice, moles, and voles. However what I do is leave an opening in the wire fencing big enough to allow feral cats to pass... instantly no rodents... and birds keep away too... feral cats are patroling our vegetable garden constantly, most especially at night. |
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