On 1/17/2020 1:27 PM, songbird wrote:
> U.S Janet B wrote:
> ...
>> Good for you for catching that.. It's surprising how all the smart
>> men don't know why you don't pour oil into septic or down the drain.
>> Why not pour the oil onto the cat litter in the trash?
>
> he. we don't have cats. we don't even hardly ever do
> this. i don't think you understood what i wrote so of
> course you'd criticise it (J didn't either).
>
> do you know what dish soap does? you're not doing
> anything else than what you are doing using dish soap
> on a greasy pan or plate. it's the same thing just
> using more soap.
>
>
> songbird
>
That may be fine for the pipes, but putting oil into the septic tank is
not a good idea long term. It eventually screws up the tank or leach
fields. Very expensive to correct.

On 1/17/2020 4:41 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/17/2020 2:48 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> U.SÂ* Janet B wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> the grease would be better in the landfill.Â* Pouring it down the sink
>>>> means your local community water purification system must handle it.
>>>
>>> Â*Â* the local water purification system is about 20ft from
>>> where i'm perched.Â* eventually it gets pumped out and
>>> delivered to another which processes it again.Â* i don't
>>> think it matters much if we pour it down the sink but i
>>> always dilute it with dish soap first to make sure it
>>> doesn't cause problems between here and there.
>>>
>>>
>>> Â*Â* songbird
>>
>>
>> Â*Â* You're wrong
>>
>> https://pipelt.com/sewer-repair/effe...buildup-sewer-
>> lines/
>>
>> Â* "When warm fats, oils, and grease are poured down the sink or flushed
>> down the toilet they may not travel very far through your pipes before
>> they begin to form large, nasty conglomerations with other debris and
>> chemicals and stick to the walls of your pipes. These FOG deposits could
>> cause future sewer backups in your home, condominium, restaurant, or
>> other building.
>>
>> The results of FOG buildup in pipes include:
>>
>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Severe reduction in pipe flow capacity
>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Complete blockages
>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Slow drains
>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Sewage backups
>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Contact with disease carrying bacteria
>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Unnecessary costly repairs
>> Â*Â*Â*Â* Contamination of water sources"
>>
>> Â*Â* Janet UK
>>
> I get the feeling 'songbird' hasn't had to deal with any plumbing
> problems... yet.Â* Running hot water and soap/dish detergent after the
> oil is NOT going to keep those pipes clear for any great distance.
> Eventually there will be buildup and a clog.Â* A plumber will be required.
>
> Simple proactive solution: don't put oil or grease down the drain in the
> first place.Â* It's easy enough to store and dispose of.
>
> Jill
Plumber may only be a couple hundred. New leach field for the system
will be thousands.

On 2020-01-17 12:01 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

> 'songbird' at some point in this thread mentioned septic systems.Â* I
> don't think you have a septic tank.Â* But definitely don't take her
> advice of running hot water and dish washing liquid down the drain then
> pouring used oil down the pipes.Â* Septic system or not, NO NO NO NO.Â* No
> oil down the drains.Â* That's a very bad idea.


Fat will go down a drain along with hot water. Somewhere along the like
the water will cool off and the fat can turn back into solids. In London
England they sanitation department keeps pretty busy cleaning up fatbergs.



https://globalnews.ca/news/4826348/f...ewer-u-k-town/

On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 23:10:11 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>Julie Bove wrote:
>...
>> True. I meant I never had any meat type fat.
>
> are you on your own septic system or citified?
>
> we have our own pipes here so to dispose of
>fats i won't be using when they are still liquid
>i just add enough liquid dish soap to emulsify
>the fat. then dump it down the drain before i
>do dishes (with hot water and more soap which
>will make sure it all gets out to the septic tank
>where it will get digested or encapsulated in
>the sludge).

Extra dishwashing liquid is not good for a septic tank... best to feed
fat to the critters, and in winter the songbirds will thank you for
the calories.

> now that i've heard about keeping it to feed
>to the birds in the winter i may do that.
>
> i so rarely have fat from meat that i don't
>eat that i am wondering if i'll ever do it but
>i think that is a much better use than washing
>it down the drain with extra dish soap.
>
> i can put it out back far enough that it
>won't draw even more animals towards the house
>than we already get.
>
>
> songbird

On 2020-01-17 4:23 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/17/2020 2:51 PM, Janet wrote:

>>>> I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have
>> lids.
>>
>> Â* You drink gallons of canned and bottled soda and water, don't you?
>>
>> Â*Â* Janet UK
>>
> She doesn't understand how to substitute different types of empty
> recepticles for "jars".
>

What she does seem to understand is how to suck people into giving her
advice so that she can keep coming back with reasons it won't work for her.

In article >, says...
>
> On 1/17/2020 2:48 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> U.S Janet B wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> the grease would be better in the landfill. Pouring it down the sink
> >>> means your local community water purification system must handle it.
> >>
> >> the local water purification system is about 20ft from
> >> where i'm perched. eventually it gets pumped out and
> >> delivered to another which processes it again. i don't
> >> think it matters much if we pour it down the sink but i
> >> always dilute it with dish soap first to make sure it
> >> doesn't cause problems between here and there.
> >>
> >>
> >> songbird
> >
> >
> > You're wrong
> >
> > https://pipelt.com/sewer-repair/effe...buildup-sewer-
> > lines/
> >
> > "When warm fats, oils, and grease are poured down the sink or flushed
> > down the toilet they may not travel very far through your pipes before
> > they begin to form large, nasty conglomerations with other debris and
> > chemicals and stick to the walls of your pipes. These FOG deposits could
> > cause future sewer backups in your home, condominium, restaurant, or
> > other building.
> >
> > The results of FOG buildup in pipes include:
> >
> > Severe reduction in pipe flow capacity
> > Complete blockages
> > Slow drains
> > Sewage backups
> > Contact with disease carrying bacteria
> > Unnecessary costly repairs
> > Contamination of water sources"
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> I get the feeling 'songbird' hasn't had to deal with any plumbing
> problems... yet. Running hot water and soap/dish detergent after the
> oil is NOT going to keep those pipes clear for any great distance.
> Eventually there will be buildup and a clog. A plumber will be required.
>
> Simple proactive solution: don't put oil or grease down the drain in the

I've lived with septic tanks for the past 35 years and know how to look
after one. On public sewage systems, fatbergs and FOG have been well
publicised.

Janet UK

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:49:50 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/17/2020 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> From Septic Tank Care for Dummies
>> "Dont deposit coffee grounds, cooking fats, wet-strength towels
>> (paper towels that dont dissolve easily, like the heavy-duty kind),
>> disposable diapers, facial tissues, cigarette butts, and other
>> non-decomposable materials into the house sewer. These materials wont
>> decompose, will fill the septic tank and will plug the system."
>> "Avoid dumping grease down the drain. It may plug sewer pipes or build
>> up in the septic tank and plug the inlet. Keep a separate container
>> for waste grease and throw it out with the garbage."
>
>Perfect reply, Janet US. Seems to me it's common sense. Septic tank or
>not, I'd never pour grease or oil down the drain.

How often are you going to repeat this?

writes:
>On 1/17/2020 1:09 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:32:49 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/15/2020 11:21 AM, Mike Duffy wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:21:06 -0000, Janet wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Try an oil that performs at a higher temp than EVOO (sunflower, or
>>>>> corn) and use more of it.
>>>>
>>>> I understand that peanut oil is the best for high temperature. Of course,
>>>> check your guests for peanut allergy first.
>>>>
>>> Peanut oil would be overkill for pan frying polenta. Yes, it has a very
>>> high smoke point. Often used in woks. It's also extremely expensive.
>>> You don't want to fry polenta at very high heat. I sure swouldn't use
>>> peanut oil to pan fry chilled polenta in a non-stick skillet.
>>>
>>> I'd go with the sunflower or corn oil Janet suggests. And no, I'm not
>>> checking my guests for allergies. I don't actually know anyone who is
>>> senstitive to or allergic to peanuts. Nor anyone who has to avoid X, Y
>>> and Z in any sort of foods.
>>>
>>> I've apparently got a healthier group of friends.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> also makes sure that the polenta squares are patted dry before putting
>> them in the pan. Stuff from the fridge can be damp on the outside.
>> Dry food into the pan browns much better. Also eliminates spatter.
>> I agree, peanut oil is too expensive and corn oil is not bad for you
>> Janet US
>>
>Yes indeed. Also move the polenta in the skillet with a spatula while
>cooking so it doesn't tend to stick.
>
>Jill

you can also jiggle the pan - it's a good way to tell if they're ready
to move or not

On 2020-01-17 4:41 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

> I get the feeling 'songbird' hasn't had to deal with any plumbing
> problems... yet.Â* Running hot water and soap/dish detergent after the
> oil is NOT going to keep those pipes clear for any great distance.
> Eventually there will be buildup and a clog.Â* A plumber will be required.

Hot water does not stay hot for long once it flows down through the
pipes. The fat rises to the top and when it and the water cool off it
coagulates into large blobs that block pipes.




>
> Simple proactive solution: don't put oil or grease down the drain in the
> first place.Â* It's easy enough to store and dispose of.

I have a large enough property that I can take it out and pour it out. I
might attract critters. Good for them if they can lick it up.
Otherwise, they can just sniff around looking for it.

On 2020-01-17 4:54 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 1/17/2020 1:27 PM, songbird wrote:

>>
> That may be fine for the pipes, but putting oil into the septic tank is
> not a good idea long term.Â* It eventually screws upÂ* the tank or leach
> fields.Â* Very expensive to correct.

I don't know how warm it gets in septic tanks. I know that mine
generates enough heat that snow melts off it pretty quickly. I am hoping
that the fats float to the top while the water drains off from the
bottom of the tank.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 18:07:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-01-17 4:54 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> On 1/17/2020 1:27 PM, songbird wrote:
>
>>>
>> That may be fine for the pipes, but putting oil into the septic tank is
>> not a good idea long term.* It eventually screws up* the tank or leach
>> fields.* Very expensive to correct.
>
>I don't know how warm it gets in septic tanks. I know that mine
>generates enough heat that snow melts off it pretty quickly. I am hoping
>that the fats float to the top while the water drains off from the
>bottom of the tank.

Septic tanks generate some heat which rises so is enough to melt some
snow at ground level but not enough heat to liquify fats. It's smart
NOT to dump fats into septics nor extra dishwashing liquid or any
chems, kills the bacteria that emulsify waste.
My trash bin is lined with a heavy plastic bag, rulz, so I dump some
fats in there but any larger amounts gets saved in the freezer for
feeding birds, they like it mixed with stale bread too.... costs
nothing extra to feed the critters, better than tossing critter food
into the trash. Critters will dine on most food parings, wild birds
especially like citrus peels... deer love banana peels. Nothing
edible goes into my trash., many critters enjoy meat bones, pork chop
bones are a favorite of possums/skunks.
IT'S ESPECIALLY WISE TO GO EASY ON LAUNDRY DETERGENT.
Modern laundry detergents work well with half the recommended amount,
in fact lesser amounts rinse out better. Most people over use all
cleaning products.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 09:44:44 +1100, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:49:50 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 1/17/2020 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> From Septic Tank Care for Dummies
>>> "Don’t deposit coffee grounds, cooking fats, wet-strength towels
>>> (paper towels that don’t dissolve easily, like the heavy-duty kind),
>>> disposable diapers, facial tissues, cigarette butts, and other
>>> non-decomposable materials into the house sewer. These materials won’t
>>> decompose, will fill the septic tank and will plug the system."
>>> "Avoid dumping grease down the drain. It may plug sewer pipes or build
>>> up in the septic tank and plug the inlet. Keep a separate container
>>> for waste grease and throw it out with the garbage."
>>
>>Perfect reply, Janet US. Seems to me it's common sense. Septic tank or
>>not, I'd never pour grease or oil down the drain.
>
>How often are you going to repeat this?

Well, it won't take when presented the first 5 or 6 times.

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:54:06 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 1/17/2020 1:27 PM, songbird wrote:
>> U.S Janet B wrote:
>> ...
>>> Good for you for catching that.. It's surprising how all the smart
>>> men don't know why you don't pour oil into septic or down the drain.
>>> Why not pour the oil onto the cat litter in the trash?
>>
>> he. we don't have cats. we don't even hardly ever do
>> this. i don't think you understood what i wrote so of
>> course you'd criticise it (J didn't either).
>>
>> do you know what dish soap does? you're not doing
>> anything else than what you are doing using dish soap
>> on a greasy pan or plate. it's the same thing just
>> using more soap.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>>
>That may be fine for the pipes, but putting oil into the septic tank is
>not a good idea long term. It eventually screws up the tank or leach
>fields. Very expensive to correct.

and then there's that big smelly pond that can show up in your back
yard ;(

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 17:45:06 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 09:44:44 +1100, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:49:50 -0500, jmcquown >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 1/17/2020 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From Septic Tank Care for Dummies
>>>> "Dont deposit coffee grounds, cooking fats, wet-strength towels
>>>> (paper towels that dont dissolve easily, like the heavy-duty kind),
>>>> disposable diapers, facial tissues, cigarette butts, and other
>>>> non-decomposable materials into the house sewer. These materials wont
>>>> decompose, will fill the septic tank and will plug the system."
>>>> "Avoid dumping grease down the drain. It may plug sewer pipes or build
>>>> up in the septic tank and plug the inlet. Keep a separate container
>>>> for waste grease and throw it out with the garbage."
>>>
>>>Perfect reply, Janet US. Seems to me it's common sense. Septic tank or
>>>not, I'd never pour grease or oil down the drain.
>>
>>How often are you going to repeat this?
>
>Well, it won't take when presented the first 5 or 6 times.

lol

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 19:36:36 -0500, wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 18:07:39 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2020-01-17 4:54 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 1/17/2020 1:27 PM, songbird wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> That may be fine for the pipes, but putting oil into the septic tank is
>>> not a good idea long term.* It eventually screws up* the tank or leach
>>> fields.* Very expensive to correct.
>>
>>I don't know how warm it gets in septic tanks. I know that mine
>>generates enough heat that snow melts off it pretty quickly. I am hoping
>>that the fats float to the top while the water drains off from the
>>bottom of the tank.
>
>Septic tanks generate some heat which rises so is enough to melt some
>snow at ground level but not enough heat to liquify fats. It's smart
>NOT to dump fats into septics nor extra dishwashing liquid or any
>chems, kills the bacteria that emulsify waste.
>My trash bin is lined with a heavy plastic bag, rulz, so I dump some
>fats in there but any larger amounts gets saved in the freezer for
>feeding birds, they like it mixed with stale bread too.... costs
>nothing extra to feed the critters, better than tossing critter food
>into the trash. Critters will dine on most food parings, wild birds
>especially like citrus peels... deer love banana peels. Nothing
>edible goes into my trash., many critters enjoy meat bones, pork chop
>bones are a favorite of possums/skunks.
>IT'S ESPECIALLY WISE TO GO EASY ON LAUNDRY DETERGENT.
>Modern laundry detergents work well with half the recommended amount,
>in fact lesser amounts rinse out better. Most people over use all
>cleaning products.

Sheldon, you're absolutely right. The bacteria in the tank can be
killed by the things that are put in it. Without the bacteria the
tank doesn't work. Grease is a no-no.
Janet US

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 16:49:50 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/17/2020 4:15 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> From Septic Tank Care for Dummies
>>> "Don€„¢t deposit coffee grounds, cooking fats, wet-strength towels
>>> (paper towels that don€„¢t dissolve easily, like the heavy-duty kind),
>>> disposable diapers, facial tissues, cigarette butts, and other
>>> non-decomposable materials into the house sewer. These materials won€„¢t
>>> decompose, will fill the septic tank and will plug the system."
>>> "Avoid dumping grease down the drain. It may plug sewer pipes or build
>>> up in the septic tank and plug the inlet. Keep a separate container
>>> for waste grease and throw it out with the garbage."
>>
>> Perfect reply, Janet US. Seems to me it's common sense. Septic tank or
>> not, I'd never pour grease or oil down the drain.
>
> How often are you going to repeat this?
>

As often as you keep whining about it?

On 1/16/2020 4:07 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, January 16, 2020 at 3:16:59 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 09:21:10 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> songbird wrote:
>>>> i don't make pancakes very often any more.
>>>> a few times a year. i used to make them 3-5
>>>> times a week.
>>>
>>> I like pancakes. So easy to make from scratch too.
>>> Haven't made any in years but I always plan to.
>>
>> If you haven't made pancakes in years you couldn't possibly like them.
>> I never eat pancakes, empty calories.... pancakes are just an excuse
>> for butter and syrup.
>
> Kasha varnishkes is empty calories, yet you manage to eat it.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Good point! Recalling a years ago post, he also seems to think they are
found on most restaurant menus.

Jill

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 jmcquown wrote:
>On 1/16/2020 Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 16, Sheldon wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 Gary wrote:
>>>> songbird wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i don't make pancakes very often any more.
>>>>> a few times a year. i used to make them 3-5
>>>>> times a week.
>>>>
>>>> I like pancakes. So easy to make from scratch too.
>>>> Haven't made any in years but I always plan to.
>>>
>>> If you haven't made pancakes in years you couldn't possibly like them.
>>> I never eat pancakes, empty calories.... pancakes are just an excuse
>>> for butter and syrup.
>>
>> Kasha varnishkes is empty calories, yet you manage to eat it.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton <---Ignoranus/Imbecile/Idiot/Uneducated...
>>
>Good point! Recalling a years ago post, he also seems to think they are
>found on most restaurant menus.
>
>Jill

I prepare a large batch of kasha every Thanksgiving, replaces
stuffing/dressing.

Kasha is buckwheat, listed as the most nutritious plant based
food... the varnishkas are bowtie pasta, I often omit them or use very
little. Buckwheat is not a grain, botanically it's a berry. Buckwheat
contains all the protein nutrition in meat except for one particular
amino acid. You generally won't find buckwheat in southern US
restaurants but it's very often served at northern US
eaterys and in Canada, typically as a hot cereal, in baked goods,
especially breads, and as a filling for pastas/pastries.

Buckwheat is sold in whole granulation, medium granulation, fine
granulation, and as a flour. Most of the world's buckwheat is grown
in Asia; Russia/China. In the US New York's Finger Lakes Region is
the buckwheat capital.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckwheat
http://wolffskasha.com/

On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 13:27:45 -0500, songbird >
wrote:

>U.S Janet B wrote:
>...
>> Good for you for catching that.. It's surprising how all the smart
>> men don't know why you don't pour oil into septic or down the drain.
>> Why not pour the oil onto the cat litter in the trash?
>
> he. we don't have cats. we don't even hardly ever do
>this. i don't think you understood what i wrote so of
>course you'd criticise it (J didn't either).
>
> do you know what dish soap does? you're not doing
>anything else than what you are doing using dish soap
>on a greasy pan or plate. it's the same thing just
>using more soap.

When we had a septic system, not only did we collect cooking grease in
a can or jar, we also wiped down greasy pans and dishes with paper
towels before washing them. No way was I delibrately going to put
grease down my sink.

Even with doing that, the pipe to the septic tank got blocked a couple
of times, and my husband had to take the lid of the tank, then clear
out the pipe with a long pole he stuck up there.

Doris

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> t...
>> > In article >, says...
>> >>
>> >> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On 1/15/2020 8:20 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> On Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 12:16:34 AM UTC-10, Julie Bove
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> >> >>> ...
>> >> >>> > On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 6:37:30 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove
>> >> >>> > wrote:
>> >> >>> >> I made a dish tonight of fried polenta slices, layered around
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> edge >> of
>> >> >>> >> a
>> >> >>> >> casserole with spinach leaves between the slices. Left the
>> >> >>> >> middle
>> >> >>> of >> the
>> >> >>> >> casserole open so I could fill it with meatballs. Covered the
>> >> >>> >> dish
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> >> tomato sauce, Italian cheeses and a little Italian seasoning.
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> But... Every time I try to fry polenta, it sticks to the pan
>> >> >>> >> and
>> >> >>> >> the
>> >> >>> >> slices
>> >> >>> >> don't get as crisp as I'd like. I am frying it in olive oil.
>> >> >>> >> Where
>> >> >>> am I
>> >> >>> >> going wrong? Would this work in the air fryer?
>> >> >>> >>
>> >> >>> >> Thanks!
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > You should use more oil and fry at a higher temperature. My
>> >> >>> > guess
>> >> >>> > is
>> >> >>> > that
>> >> >>> > you should use twice as much oil. I'd probably use 3 times the
>> >> >>> > oil.
>> >> >>> I > like
>> >> >>> > to use lots of oil.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> ---
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> That could be it. I don't use much oil.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think Americans tend to use less oil than they should when
>> >> >> cooking.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> you can free yourself from being stingy with oil when frying your
>> >> >> cooking
>> >> >> would immediately jump up onto another level of cooking. Just
>> >> >> banish
>> >> >> everything you think you know about cooking is all it takes.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ---
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oil is just such a pain to dispose of though.
>> >
>> > I mop out any left in the pan with a paper towel and dump it in the
>> > rubbish bin.
>> >> >
>> >> > I pour it into a jar and put it in the trash.
>> >>
>> >> I rarely have an empty jar. I just don't buy much stuff in jars.
>> >
>> > You do buy cans. Use a can.
>>
>> I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have lids.
>
> Just put some paper towels in the cans. Absorbs the oil.
> If it's cooking oil, just pour it down the sink with hot water.

Oil is not allowed to go down the sink. Causes clogs. must be thrown out.

"songbird" > wrote in message
...
> U.S Janet B wrote:
> ...
>> the grease would be better in the landfill. Pouring it down the sink
>> means your local community water purification system must handle it.
>
> the local water purification system is about 20ft from
> where i'm perched. eventually it gets pumped out and
> delivered to another which processes it again. i don't
> think it matters much if we pour it down the sink but i
> always dilute it with dish soap first to make sure it
> doesn't cause problems between here and there.

It matters here! We are specifically told not to do it!

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 1/16/2020 8:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>> t...
>>> In article >, says...
>>>> >
>>>> > I pour it into a jar and put it in the trash.
>>>>
>>>> I rarely have an empty jar. I just don't buy much stuff in jars.
>>>
>>> You do buy cans. Use a can.
>>
>> I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have lids.
>
> What a ridiculous thing to say. We all know she buys and eats canned
> beans all the time. So, cans don't have lids. As if no one ever had to
> cover an open can before. How about a bit of foil?
>
> Pour the oil in an empty, rinsed out can, cover it with foil. Disposing
> of oil isn't really the problem if she uses so little.

I have been cooking dried beans lately. Foil won't keep oil contained. Takes
a ton of paper towels to do that.

"Janet" > wrote in message
t...
>
>> On 1/16/2020 8:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > "Janet" > wrote in message
>> > t...
>> >> In article >,
>> >> says...
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I pour it into a jar and put it in the trash.
>> >>>
>> >>> I rarely have an empty jar. I just don't buy much stuff in jars.
>> >>
>> >> You do buy cans. Use a can.
>> >
>> > I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have
> lids.
>
> You drink gallons of canned and bottled soda and water, don't you?

No. I pretty much stopped drinking soda. I keep some for Angela. I will have
one once in a while. Mostly I drink tea of tap water. I use insulated Bubba
cups. I only take a bottle of water with me if I have to go inside a place
for a while like the Drs. office. Bubba cups can spill. Bottles don't.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 1/17/2020 2:51 PM, Janet wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/16/2020 8:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Janet" > wrote in message
>>>> t...
>>>>> In article >,
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I pour it into a jar and put it in the trash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I rarely have an empty jar. I just don't buy much stuff in jars.
>>>>>
>>>>> You do buy cans. Use a can.
>>>>
>>>> I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have
>> lids.
>>
>> You drink gallons of canned and bottled soda and water, don't you?
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
> She doesn't understand how to substitute different types of empty
> recepticles for "jars".

I do understand. Ever poured hot oil in a plastic bottle? And yes, I know I
could let it cool but I don't like having a pan of oil sitting around.

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 3:27:11 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Pour the oil in an empty, rinsed out can, cover it with foil. Disposing
> > of oil isn't really the problem if she uses so little.
>
> I have been cooking dried beans lately. Foil won't keep oil contained. Takes
> a ton of paper towels to do that.
>
Dumbass, pour the oil in a can, stick the can in the freezer. It will
remain solid even after you take it out of the freezer. You can put a
piece of plastic or aluminum foil over the can or even just a piece of
paper like newspaper, or a torn envelope if you're afraid the solidified
grease will spill. Place it in the kitchen garbage can when you're ready
to set your trash out to be picked up.

A simple solution to a simple problem but we know all this goes over your
your empty head.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>> Jazzy only eats dry food. No cans.
>
> Yeah. Judging by the old cartoons, only goats eat cans.

I believed that as a child. My mom told me they eat anything. So when we
went to the petting zoo, I took a can. Nope.

"songbird" > wrote in message
...
> U.S Janet B wrote:
> ...
>> Good for you for catching that.. It's surprising how all the smart
>> men don't know why you don't pour oil into septic or down the drain.
>> Why not pour the oil onto the cat litter in the trash?
>
> he. we don't have cats. we don't even hardly ever do
> this. i don't think you understood what i wrote so of
> course you'd criticise it (J didn't either).
>
> do you know what dish soap does? you're not doing
> anything else than what you are doing using dish soap
> on a greasy pan or plate. it's the same thing just
> using more soap.

My plumber said the main source of fat in pipes is dish soap. Soap does
contain fat. If we have a greasy plate, we are to wipe it with a paper towel
before we wash it so the oil doesn't go down the drain. We rarely eat greasy
food. If we have it, that's what paper plates are for.

On 2020-01-19 4:31 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>

>> She doesn't understand how to substitute different types of empty
>> recepticles for "jars".
>
> I do understand. Ever poured hot oil in a plastic bottle? And yes, I
> know I could let it cool but I don't like having a pan of oil sitting
> around.


Oh yes. Of course. We knew you would have an excuse why that helpful
suggestion won't work for you. How long does it take for a pan of oil
to cool in Bothell? ... 2-3 days?

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:33:15 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 3:27:11 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > Pour the oil in an empty, rinsed out can, cover it with foil. Disposing
>> > of oil isn't really the problem if she uses so little.
>>
>> I have been cooking dried beans lately. Foil won't keep oil contained. Takes
>> a ton of paper towels to do that.
>>
>Dumbass, pour the oil in a can, stick the can in the freezer. It will
>remain solid even after you take it out of the freezer. You can put a
>piece of plastic or aluminum foil over the can or even just a piece of
>paper like newspaper, or a torn envelope if you're afraid the solidified
>grease will spill. Place it in the kitchen garbage can when you're ready
>to set your trash out to be picked up.
>
>A simple solution to a simple problem but we know all this goes over your
>your empty head.


I freeze used cooking fat all the time, winter birds love it. I try
to use milk cartons but any container works, however I never use glass
jars. Empty cans work well because I can cut the bottom out with a
can opener and push the solidified
fat out in one piece... birds scoff it up.
Bove is obviously a lazy stupid.... ****!

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:06:27 -0500, wrote:

>On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:33:15 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 3:27:11 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >
>>> > Pour the oil in an empty, rinsed out can, cover it with foil. Disposing
>>> > of oil isn't really the problem if she uses so little.
>>>
>>> I have been cooking dried beans lately. Foil won't keep oil contained. Takes
>>> a ton of paper towels to do that.
>>>
>>Dumbass, pour the oil in a can, stick the can in the freezer. It will
>>remain solid even after you take it out of the freezer. You can put a
>>piece of plastic or aluminum foil over the can or even just a piece of
>>paper like newspaper, or a torn envelope if you're afraid the solidified
>>grease will spill. Place it in the kitchen garbage can when you're ready
>>to set your trash out to be picked up.
>>
>>A simple solution to a simple problem but we know all this goes over your
>>your empty head.
>
>
>I freeze used cooking fat all the time, winter birds love it. I try
>to use milk cartons but any container works, however I never use glass
>jars. Empty cans work well because I can cut the bottom out with a
>can opener and push the solidified
>fat out in one piece... birds scoff it up.
>Bove is obviously a lazy stupid.... ****!

I just realized, I haven't seen milk cartons lately. They are all
plastic. You recycle the bottle in one place and the cap in another.
Janet US

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:30:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Janet" > wrote in message
et...
>>
>>> On 1/16/2020 8:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >
>>> > "Janet" > wrote in message
>>> > t...
>>> >> In article >,
>>> >> says...
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > I pour it into a jar and put it in the trash.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I rarely have an empty jar. I just don't buy much stuff in jars.
>>> >>
>>> >> You do buy cans. Use a can.
>>> >
>>> > I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have
>> lids.
>>
>> You drink gallons of canned and bottled soda and water, don't you?
>
>No. I pretty much stopped drinking soda. I keep some for Angela. I will have
>one once in a while. Mostly I drink tea of tap water. I use insulated Bubba
>cups. I only take a bottle of water with me if I have to go inside a place
>for a while like the Drs. office. Bubba cups can spill. Bottles don't.

WTF is a Bubba cup?

Sheldon wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:30:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Janet" > wrote in message
> et...
> >>
> >>> On 1/16/2020 8:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > "Janet" > wrote in message
> >>> > t...
> >>> >> In article >,
> >>> >> says...
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > I pour it into a jar and put it in the trash.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I rarely have an empty jar. I just don't buy much stuff in jars.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You do buy cans. Use a can.
> >>> >
> >>> > I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have
> >> lids.
> >>
> >> You drink gallons of canned and bottled soda and water, don't you?
> >
> >No. I pretty much stopped drinking soda. I keep some for Angela. I will have
> >one once in a while. Mostly I drink tea of tap water. I use insulated Bubba
> >cups. I only take a bottle of water with me if I have to go inside a place
> >for a while like the Drs. office. Bubba cups can spill. Bottles don't.
>
> WTF is a Bubba cup?


It's what she won as her Grand Prize when she appeared on "Beat the Clock"...

--
Best
Greg

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 4:07:08 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I freeze used cooking fat all the time, winter birds love it. I try
> to use milk cartons but any container works, however I never use glass
> jars. Empty cans work well because I can cut the bottom out with a
> can opener and push the solidified
> fat out in one piece... birds scoff it up.
> Bove is obviously a lazy stupid.... ****!
>
Nailed it!

I'm constantly amazed how she wrestles with the most simple, the most
mundane every day situations. Retardation must be prevalent in her
family; if not retardation, common sense is truly a daily struggle.

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 12:49:29 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 13:30:35 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Janet" > wrote in message
> et...
> >>
> >>> On 1/16/2020 8:43 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > "Janet" > wrote in message
> >>> > t...
> >>> >> In article >,
> >>> >> says...
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > I pour it into a jar and put it in the trash.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> I rarely have an empty jar. I just don't buy much stuff in jars.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> You do buy cans. Use a can.
> >>> >
> >>> > I do but I don't eat canned food often either and cans don't have
> >> lids.
> >>
> >> You drink gallons of canned and bottled soda and water, don't you?
> >
> >No. I pretty much stopped drinking soda. I keep some for Angela. I will have
> >one once in a while. Mostly I drink tea of tap water. I use insulated Bubba
> >cups. I only take a bottle of water with me if I have to go inside a place
> >for a while like the Drs. office. Bubba cups can spill. Bottles don't.
>
> WTF is a Bubba cup?

Nears as I can tell, it's a double wall plastic cup. Frequently, it's made of clear plastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJldDNe4Kg

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 5:55:09 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 12:49:29 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > WTF is a Bubba cup?
>
> Nears as I can tell, it's a double wall plastic cup. Frequently, it's made of clear plastic.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJldDNe4Kg
>
Some are made of double-walled plastic, some are made of metal and both
designs are the insulating type. Most of the Bubba cups I've see hold
well over 45 ounces frequently a half-gallon or more. But they can come
in all sizes.

Here's a 52 ounce model.

https://i.postimg.cc/QMYcKFVf/Bubba-Cup.jpg

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 2:09:04 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 5:55:09 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 12:49:29 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > > WTF is a Bubba cup?
> >
> > Nears as I can tell, it's a double wall plastic cup. Frequently, it's made of clear plastic.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJldDNe4Kg
> >
> Some are made of double-walled plastic, some are made of metal and both
> designs are the insulating type. Most of the Bubba cups I've see hold
> well over 45 ounces frequently a half-gallon or more. But they can come
> in all sizes.
>
> Here's a 52 ounce model.
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/QMYcKFVf/Bubba-Cup.jpg

Looks more like a Bubba Barrel. That's scary! The Europeans will condescendingly shake their heads.

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:26:38 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 2:09:04 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 5:55:09 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 12:49:29 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>> > >
>> > > WTF is a Bubba cup?
>> >
>> > Nears as I can tell, it's a double wall plastic cup. Frequently, it's made of clear plastic.
>> >
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJldDNe4Kg
>> >
>> Some are made of double-walled plastic, some are made of metal and both
>> designs are the insulating type. Most of the Bubba cups I've see hold
>> well over 45 ounces frequently a half-gallon or more. But they can come
>> in all sizes.
>>
>> Here's a 52 ounce model.
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/QMYcKFVf/Bubba-Cup.jpg
>
>Looks more like a Bubba Barrel. That's scary! The Europeans will condescendingly shake their heads.

We're good at that, aren't we?

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 6:26:42 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 2:09:04 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/QMYcKFVf/Bubba-Cup.jpg
>
> Looks more like a Bubba Barrel. That's scary! The Europeans will condescendingly shake their heads.
>
Eh, I doubt you'll see many Americans travelling to Europe with their Bubba
cups.

On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 7:21:59 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:26:38 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 2:09:04 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >>
> >> https://i.postimg.cc/QMYcKFVf/Bubba-Cup.jpg
> >
> >Looks more like a Bubba Barrel. That's scary! The Europeans will condescendingly shake their heads.
>
> We're good at that, aren't we?
>
You're no longer a European. You may have been born and raised there but
you not a European now.

On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 17:35:41 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 7:21:59 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 16:26:38 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 2:09:04 PM UTC-10, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> https://i.postimg.cc/QMYcKFVf/Bubba-Cup.jpg
>> >
>> >Looks more like a Bubba Barrel. That's scary! The Europeans will condescendingly shake their heads.
>>
>> We're good at that, aren't we?
>>
>You're no longer a European. You may have been born and raised there but
>you not a European now.

Oh. Well, Australians aren't very good at shaking their head
condescendingly. They also don't like to use such long words.