On 1/30/2020 9:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 9:27:46 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah and wheat contains chemicals that are bad for you. Wheat is a
>> plant species that is not supposed to be eaten.
>
> Bah. There's no such thing as "supposed to be eaten". Less than
> 10% of the U.S. population is demonstrably celiac, allergic to wheat,
> or sensitive to gluten.
>
> The other 90% of us are perfectly happy and health eating gluten.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Agreed, Cindy. He's an idiot preaching about a dietary fad. Doubtful
he's ever been diagnosed by a physician as having Celiac disease. Even
if he has been, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't have to give it
up. I like wheat bread and will continue to eat it.

Silly side comment: the ancient Egyptians grew wheat as a food source.

Jill

On 2020-02-01 7:21 a.m., wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 13:40:28 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:24:06 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Yeah and wheat contains chemicals that are bad for you. Wheat is a
>>>>> plant species that is not supposed to be eaten. I dont hear of a lot
>>>>> of thyroid problems coming out of china or Japan.
>>>>
>>>> Settle down, dude. Eat what you like within reason and don't
>>>> deny yourself the occasional luxuries. Even YOU will still die
>>>> at an average age. Do enjoy your brief life.
>>>
>>> My life is enjoyable except on Tuesdays.
>>> No I will not dies at an average age I have heart problems and will
>>> die in a few years. Bad thing is I am under 50.
>>>>
>>>> Eat what you want but not lots of it and live a stress free
>>>> life as much as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quit worrying about gluten and Putin.
>>>
>>> You know how a long of the geriatric people are constipated. Wanna
>>> know why? Its gluten.
>>
>> Nonsense!
>
> no actually it is not.
>
Glory be!!!!! Julie writes sense for the first time of which I am awa-)

On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 1:09:00 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 1/30/2020 9:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 9:27:46 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Yeah and wheat contains chemicals that are bad for you. Wheat is a
> >> plant species that is not supposed to be eaten.
> >
> > Bah. There's no such thing as "supposed to be eaten". Less than
> > 10% of the U.S. population is demonstrably celiac, allergic to wheat,
> > or sensitive to gluten.
> >
> > The other 90% of us are perfectly happy and health eating gluten.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Agreed, Cindy. He's an idiot preaching about a dietary fad. Doubtful
> he's ever been diagnosed by a physician as having Celiac disease. Even
> if he has been, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't have to give it
> up. I like wheat bread and will continue to eat it.
>
> Silly side comment: the ancient Egyptians grew wheat as a food source.
>
> Jill
>
Nailed it! He's one of those posters "Do as I say, N O W!"

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 14:08:55 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 1/30/2020 9:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 9:27:46 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yeah and wheat contains chemicals that are bad for you. Wheat is a
>>> plant species that is not supposed to be eaten.
>>
>> Bah. There's no such thing as "supposed to be eaten". Less than
>> 10% of the U.S. population is demonstrably celiac, allergic to wheat,
>> or sensitive to gluten.
>>
>> The other 90% of us are perfectly happy and health eating gluten.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>Agreed, Cindy. He's an idiot preaching about a dietary fad. Doubtful
>he's ever been diagnosed by a physician as having Celiac disease. Even
>if he has been, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't have to give it
>up. I like wheat bread and will continue to eat it.

I agree, but you can tell him. He's here.

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 17:15:58 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> wrote:

>Bruce > wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 08:42:35 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:16:54 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>> Call them what you will, but theyre technically not the same animal. I
>>> dont eat shrimp or prawns, but I do cook them.
>>
>> Sorry for insisting, but when you cook a prawn, how do you know it's
>> not a shrimp? What's the difference?
>>
>
>If youre buying them whole in their shells, there are distinguishable
>differences (claw count, legs, exoskeleton formation, etc). Also, shrimp
>mostly come from sal****er sources but prawns only come from freshwater.
>If Im buying from a quality fish market, I generally trust that if theyre
>labeled prawns that they are actually prawns and not mislabeled jumbo
>shrimp, but YMMV. If its prepared in a restaurant, I think all bets are
>off, however. I think any discernible taste differences are debatable, but
>I wouldnt know personally since I dont eat either.

Ok, thanks. There goes my belief that Americans call all of them
shrimp.

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 12:02:36 -0700, graham > wrote:

>On 2020-02-01 10:15 a.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> Bruce > wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 08:42:35 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:16:54 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:58:55 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2020-01-30 6:16 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:39:45 -0500, S Viemeister
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/2020 7:17 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Shrimp scampi, another American *******isation of a European food
>>>>>>>>>>> name. Shrimp are one kind of animal, scampi are another kind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Prawns fit in there somewhere, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. I think English and Australians distinguish shrimp (small) and
>>>>>>>>> prawns (big). And Americans call both shrimp? Is that so?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sometimes referred to as "Jumbo Shrimp"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then I wonder what Americans call a prawn, unless that's a word they
>>>>>>> never use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im American, and for me, prawns are prawns, and shrimp (of any size) are
>>>>>> shrimp - popcorn shrimp, cocktail shrimp, jumbo shrimp, etc. To be clear,
>>>>>> jumbo shrimp are not prawns, and prawns are not jumbo shrimp.
>>>>>
>>>>> But what is a prawn to you then, if it's not a big shrimp? Do you ever
>>>>> eat prawns?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Call them what you will, but theyre technically not the same animal. I
>>>> dont eat shrimp or prawns, but I do cook them.
>>>
>>> Sorry for insisting, but when you cook a prawn, how do you know it's
>>> not a shrimp? What's the difference?
>>>
>>
>> If youre buying them whole in their shells, there are distinguishable
>> differences (claw count, legs, exoskeleton formation, etc). Also, shrimp
>> mostly come from sal****er sources but prawns only come from freshwater.
>
>********!!!!!
>FFS read the Wicki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawn

Part of what Jinx said, is confirmed the
"The term prawn is less commonly used in the United States, being
applied mainly to larger shrimp and those living in fresh water."

I mean the fresh water bit.

On 2/1/2020 2:31 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 1:09:00 PM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 1/30/2020 9:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 9:27:46 AM UTC-5, wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah and wheat contains chemicals that are bad for you. Wheat is a
>>>> plant species that is not supposed to be eaten.
>>>
>>> Bah. There's no such thing as "supposed to be eaten". Less than
>>> 10% of the U.S. population is demonstrably celiac, allergic to wheat,
>>> or sensitive to gluten.
>>>
>>> The other 90% of us are perfectly happy and health eating gluten.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> Agreed, Cindy. He's an idiot preaching about a dietary fad. Doubtful
>> he's ever been diagnosed by a physician as having Celiac disease. Even
>> if he has been, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't have to give it
>> up. I like wheat bread and will continue to eat it.
>>
>> Silly side comment: the ancient Egyptians grew wheat as a food source.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> Nailed it! He's one of those posters "Do as I say, N O W!"
>
"Wheat is a plant species that is not supposed to be eaten." Not
according to World History. As I pointed out, the ancient Egyptians
grew wheat as a food source. Also barley and other grains. They
weren't thinking, oh my, it's not gluten free! LOL

Jill

graham wrote:

> On 2020-02-01 10:15 a.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >Bruce > wrote:
> > > On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 08:42:35 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > wrote:
> > >
> >>>Bruce > wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:16:54 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> >>>>>Bruce > wrote:
> >>>>>>On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:58:55 -0700, graham >
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 2020-01-30 6:16 p.m., Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:39:45 -0500, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 1/30/2020 7:17 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Shrimp scampi, another American *******isation of
> > > > > > > > > > > a European food name. Shrimp are one kind of
> > > > > > > > > > > animal, scampi are another kind.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Prawns fit in there somewhere, too.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes. I think English and Australians distinguish
> > > > > > > > > shrimp (small) and prawns (big). And Americans call
> > > > > > > > > both shrimp? Is that so?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sometimes referred to as "Jumbo Shrimp"!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Then I wonder what Americans call a prawn, unless that's
> > > > > > > a word they never use.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Im American, and for me, prawns are prawns, and shrimp (of
> > > > > > any size) are shrimp - popcorn shrimp, cocktail shrimp,
> > > > > > jumbo shrimp, etc. To be clear, jumbo shrimp are not
> > > > > > prawns, and prawns are not jumbo shrimp.
> > > > >
> > > > > But what is a prawn to you then, if it's not a big shrimp? Do
> > > > > you ever eat prawns?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Call them what you will, but theyre technically not the same
> > > > animal. I dont eat shrimp or prawns, but I do cook them.
> > >
> > > Sorry for insisting, but when you cook a prawn, how do you know
> > > it's not a shrimp? What's the difference?
> > >
> >
> > If youre buying them whole in their shells, there are
> > distinguishable differences (claw count, legs, exoskeleton
> > formation, etc). Also, shrimp mostly come from sal****er sources
> > but prawns only come from freshwater.
>
> ********!!!!!
> FFS read the Wicki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawn

Agree. Prawn generically is more a size than a type.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 1/30/2020 9:36 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 9:27:46 AM UTC-5,
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yeah and wheat contains chemicals that are bad for you. Wheat is a
> > > plant species that is not supposed to be eaten.
> >
> > Bah. There's no such thing as "supposed to be eaten". Less than
> > 10% of the U.S. population is demonstrably celiac, allergic to
> > wheat, or sensitive to gluten.
> >
> > The other 90% of us are perfectly happy and health eating gluten.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> Agreed, Cindy. He's an idiot preaching about a dietary fad.
> Doubtful he's ever been diagnosed by a physician as having Celiac
> disease. Even if he has been, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't
> have to give it up. I like wheat bread and will continue to eat it.
>
> Silly side comment: the ancient Egyptians grew wheat as a food source.
>
> Jill

Side comment, they learned that from others who had been doing it for
2,000 years before them.

graham > wrote:
> On 2020-02-01 10:15 a.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> Bruce > wrote:
>>> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 08:42:35 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:16:54 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:58:55 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2020-01-30 6:16 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:39:45 -0500, S Viemeister
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/2020 7:17 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Shrimp scampi, another American *******isation of a European food
>>>>>>>>>>> name. Shrimp are one kind of animal, scampi are another kind.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Prawns fit in there somewhere, too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. I think English and Australians distinguish shrimp (small) and
>>>>>>>>> prawns (big). And Americans call both shrimp? Is that so?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sometimes referred to as "Jumbo Shrimp"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then I wonder what Americans call a prawn, unless that's a word they
>>>>>>> never use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im American, and for me, prawns are prawns, and shrimp (of any size) are
>>>>>> shrimp - popcorn shrimp, cocktail shrimp, jumbo shrimp, etc. To be clear,
>>>>>> jumbo shrimp are not prawns, and prawns are not jumbo shrimp.
>>>>>
>>>>> But what is a prawn to you then, if it's not a big shrimp? Do you ever
>>>>> eat prawns?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Call them what you will, but theyre technically not the same animal. I
>>>> dont eat shrimp or prawns, but I do cook them.
>>>
>>> Sorry for insisting, but when you cook a prawn, how do you know it's
>>> not a shrimp? What's the difference?
>>>
>>
>> If youre buying them whole in their shells, there are distinguishable
>> differences (claw count, legs, exoskeleton formation, etc). Also, shrimp
>> mostly come from sal****er sources but prawns only come from freshwater.
>
> ********!!!!!
> FFS read the Wicki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawn
>

Read Food & Wine!!!!
https://www.foodandwine.com/seafood/...rawns?amp=true

Julie Bove wrote:

> wrote
>> Yeah and wheat contains chemicals that are bad for you. Wheat is a
>> plant species that is not supposed to be eaten. I dont hear of a lot
>> of thyroid problems coming out of china or Japan.
>
> Because they eat fermented soy.

Tofu and soy milk are fermented?

"Jinx the Minx" wrote in message ...

Bruce > wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 08:42:35 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> > wrote:
>
>> Bruce > wrote:
>>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:16:54 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bruce > wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:58:55 -0700, graham > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2020-01-30 6:16 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:39:45 -0500, S Viemeister
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 1/30/2020 7:17 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Shrimp scampi, another American *******isation of a European food
>>>>>>>>> name. Shrimp are one kind of animal, scampi are another kind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Prawns fit in there somewhere, too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. I think English and Australians distinguish shrimp (small) and
>>>>>>> prawns (big). And Americans call both shrimp? Is that so?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes referred to as "Jumbo Shrimp"!
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I wonder what Americans call a prawn, unless that's a word they
>>>>> never use.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Im American, and for me, prawns are prawns, and shrimp (of any size)
>>>> are
>>>> shrimp - popcorn shrimp, cocktail shrimp, jumbo shrimp, etc. To be
>>>> clear,
>>>> jumbo shrimp are not prawns, and prawns are not jumbo shrimp.
>>>
>>> But what is a prawn to you then, if it's not a big shrimp? Do you ever
>>> eat prawns?
>>>
>>
>> Call them what you will, but theyre technically not the same animal. I
>> dont eat shrimp or prawns, but I do cook them.
>
> Sorry for insisting, but when you cook a prawn, how do you know it's
> not a shrimp? What's the difference?
>

If youre buying them whole in their shells, there are distinguishable
differences (claw count, legs, exoskeleton formation, etc). Also, shrimp
mostly come from sal****er sources but prawns only come from freshwater.
If Im buying from a quality fish market, I generally trust that if theyre
labeled prawns that they are actually prawns and not mislabeled jumbo
shrimp, but YMMV. If its prepared in a restaurant, I think all bets are
off, however. I think any discernible taste differences are debatable, but
I wouldnt know personally since I dont eat either.

====

Thanks for that! I didn't know either

Jinx the Minx wrote:

> graham > wrote:
> > On 2020-02-01 10:15 a.m., Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >> Bruce > wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 08:42:35 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bruce > wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 22:16:54 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx
> >>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Bruce > wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:58:55 -0700, graham >
> wrote: >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2020-01-30 6:16 p.m., Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:39:45 -0500, S Viemeister
> >>>>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/30/2020 7:17 PM, Bruce wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Shrimp scampi, another American *******isation of a
> European food >>>>>>>>>>> name. Shrimp are one kind of animal, scampi
> are another kind. >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Prawns fit in there somewhere, too.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yes. I think English and Australians distinguish shrimp
> (small) and >>>>>>>>> prawns (big). And Americans call both shrimp?
> Is that so? >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sometimes referred to as "Jumbo Shrimp"!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Then I wonder what Americans call a prawn, unless that's a
> word they >>>>>>> never use.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Im American, and for me, prawns are prawns, and shrimp (of
> any size) are >>>>>> shrimp - popcorn shrimp, cocktail shrimp, jumbo
> shrimp, etc. To be clear, >>>>>> jumbo shrimp are not prawns, and
> prawns are not jumbo shrimp. >>>>>
> >>>>> But what is a prawn to you then, if it's not a big shrimp? Do
> you ever >>>>> eat prawns?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Call them what you will, but theyre technically not the same
> animal. I >>>> dont eat shrimp or prawns, but I do cook them.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry for insisting, but when you cook a prawn, how do you know
> it's >>> not a shrimp? What's the difference?
> >>>
> >>
> >> If youre buying them whole in their shells, there are
> distinguishable >> differences (claw count, legs, exoskeleton
> formation, etc). Also, shrimp >> mostly come from sal****er sources
> but prawns only come from freshwater.
> >
> > ********!!!!!
> > FFS read the Wicki entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prawn
> >
>
> Read Food & Wine!!!!
>
https://www.foodandwine.com/seafood/...rawns?amp=true

I don't think anyone gainsays there is a 'technical difference' but in
common use and sales here, it's more of a size than anything else.
It's like trying to telll people there is no such cut as 'London
Broil'. Technically there isn't. That doesn't stop local grocery
stores from labelling that cut that way here. Tecnically 'London
Broil' is a method of cooking with marinade and broiling but it just
happens that Top Round (the most common cut to be labeled London Broil)
is best cooked by that method.

On Sunday, February 2, 2020 at 11:09:00 AM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:

> I don't think anyone gainsays there is a 'technical difference' but in
> common use and sales here, it's more of a size than anything else.
> It's like trying to telll people there is no such cut as 'London
> Broil'. Technically there isn't. That doesn't stop local grocery
> stores from labelling that cut that way here. Tecnically 'London
> Broil' is a method of cooking with marinade and broiling but it just
> happens that Top Round (the most common cut to be labeled London Broil)
> is best cooked by that method.

I haven't paid attention in quite a while, but London Broil was always
a flank steak pinwheel held together with a skewer.

Thus proving your point that there's no such cut as London Broil.

Cindy Hamilton