On 2020 Feb 5, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> She's still the same as before except now she's bonafide. This counts for a
> lot in the world of salt cured pork products. Hopefully, she'll use her
> position to help people and do good, not evil. God shed his grace upon her.

Shes the goddess of SPAM! Alert the islanders, and start building a
royal outrigger for the ceremony. Whod a thunk it.

leo

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 4:53:41 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 16:52:10 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
> >On 2020-02-05 11:28 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 6:22:07 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 11:07:26 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > No need to pity me. The idea of eating potatoes/vegetables cooked with
> >meat oil makes my stomach churn.
> >>>
> >>> On the contrary. McDonald's fries were much better when they were cooked
> >>> in beef tallow.
> >>>
> >>> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >> That's what everybody says. I like 'em just fine now.
> >>
> >
> >I can't remember their fries every being good.
>
> Maybe fast food eaters have nothing to compare them to, so they think
> those matchsticks are good "French" (lol) fries.

Skinny fries have their place. For one thing, they have more
surface area to crisp up, if that's what you like.

For me, the best fries are approximately 1 cm in cross-section, cooked
extra brown. When we order fries in restaurants we say, "Cook them
like they're damned!"

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 12:19:01 AM UTC-5, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Feb 5, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
>
> > She's still the same as before except now she's bonafide. This counts for a
> > lot in the world of salt cured pork products. Hopefully, she'll use her
> > position to help people and do good, not evil. God shed his grace upon her.
>
> Shes the goddess of SPAM! Alert the islanders, and start building a
> royal outrigger for the ceremony. Whod a thunk it.
>
> leo

Feel free to sacrifice SPAM in any volcano you might have handy.

Cindy Hamilton

graham wrote:
>
> On 2020-02-05 9:03 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Janet wrote:
> >> Poor you, if you've never tasted potatoes roasted in duck or goose
> >> fat.
> >
> > Poor Me Too! Can you buy that fat or do you have to roast a bird
> > first?
> >
> That's one way of course. Instead of throwing the fat away, you keep it
> for subsequent use. Waste not - want not!!
> However, you might find cans of it, imported from France, in hoity-toity
> "gourmet" stores. In the UK, it is readily available in ordinary
> supermarkets.

Thanks for that answer, Graham.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Skinny fries have their place. For one thing, they have more
> surface area to crisp up, if that's what you like.

Aka 'shoestring fries'. Whenever I have a nice steak dinner, my
favorite sides are a pile of nice salty deep fried shoestring
fries and a pile of sweet corn with butter.

I do also like homemade fries but never in the oven. Sadly, I
haven't deep fried in 2-3 years. I need to fix that situation
soon.

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 7:21:42 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Skinny fries have their place. For one thing, they have more
> > surface area to crisp up, if that's what you like.
>
> Aka 'shoestring fries'. Whenever I have a nice steak dinner, my
> favorite sides are a pile of nice salty deep fried shoestring
> fries and a pile of sweet corn with butter.

I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
with you. (When we eat corn it is the starch for the meal.)
Maybe some onion strings, too.

> I do also like homemade fries but never in the oven. Sadly, I
> haven't deep fried in 2-3 years. I need to fix that situation
> soon.

We get our fill of fried food eating in restaurants. No need for
us to deep fry at home.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 7:36:07 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 7:21:42 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > Skinny fries have their place. For one thing, they have more
> > > surface area to crisp up, if that's what you like.
> >
> > Aka 'shoestring fries'. Whenever I have a nice steak dinner, my
> > favorite sides are a pile of nice salty deep fried shoestring
> > fries and a pile of sweet corn with butter.
>
> I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
> with you. (When we eat corn it is the starch for the meal.)
> Maybe some onion strings, too.

+1

On Friday, January 31, 2020 at 1:10:04 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 1/31/2020 5:33 AM, Leo wrote:
> > On 2020 Jan 30, , Sqwertz wrote
> > (in article >):
> >
> >> That was a good watch. It's the first time I've sat through almost
> >> 2 hours of any program (with only a couple 10 minute breaks).
> >> Usually I don't watch anything I can't control with my full=featured
> >> remote, but I had to compromise and Chromecasted this one to the 32"
> >> TV. I haven't been in a movie theater for 29 years.
> >>
> >> Somebody suggested we go see "Imitation of Christ" new years day at
> >> the museum. It started at 11:AM and ended at 9:45PM. Yeah, no.
> >
> > First, for Jill, we did see €œThe Poison Squad€� and enjoyed it. I never
> > heard of the guy.
>
> I never heard of the guy before, either. But apparently he was onto
> something. Test what people are eating.
>
> > Second, if the Ken Burns documentary on €œCountry Music€� is ever
> > concatenated, you can watch sixteen hours straight. Its spectacular,
> > outstanding, superlative, and in eight, two hour segments for the time
> > being. I liked it a lot!
>
> I'm thrilled you liked "Country Music". I do love Ken Burns'
> documentaries. The Civil War was great. Country Music, not so much.

Me either, except for when I'm reminded by pictures of Dolly Parton back in her early 20's. Wow! Then I get excited and want to listen a little.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:

> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > Skinny fries have their place. For one thing, they have more
> > > surface area to crisp up, if that's what you like.
> >
> > Aka 'shoestring fries'. Whenever I have a nice steak dinner, my
> > favorite sides are a pile of nice salty deep fried shoestring
> > fries and a pile of sweet corn with butter.

> I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
> with you.

OK. I was talking about 2 different scenarios.

Home cooked steak meals, it was always steak, shoestring fries
and buttered corn.

The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
(she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
choice of potato. Either baked or fries.

In article >, says...
>
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On the contrary. McDonald's fries were much better when they were cooked
> > > in beef tallow.
>
> > That's what everybody says. I like 'em just fine now.
>
> I still like them fine now too.
> I don't even remember their taste from the old days.
>
> Just like KFC chicken used to be cooked in lard but not
> now. Still tastes pretty good to me last time I went but
> that was about 3 years ago.

Real lard is pig fat, and you can bet your bottom dollar KFC didn't
risk millions of religious objections.

KFC lard would be vegetable lard, so nothing to do with "vegetables
cooked in meat fat"

Janet UK

On 2020-02-06 7:36 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> I do also like homemade fries but never in the oven. Sadly, I
>> haven't deep fried in 2-3 years. I need to fix that situation
>> soon.
>
> We get our fill of fried food eating in restaurants. No need for
> us to deep fry at home.

We had a deep fryer and used it frequently. We got rid of it after my
bypass surgery. I occasionally have fries in a restaurant.

In article >, says...
>
> Janet wrote:
> > Poor you, if you've never tasted potatoes roasted in duck or goose
> > fat.
>
> Poor Me Too! Can you buy that fat or do you have to roast a bird
> first?

No, you can buy both fats in butchers, smkts and online here.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooks-Co-Go.../dp/B0081G1PLS

Janet UK

On Thu, 06 Feb 2020 09:59:37 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>
>> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> > > Skinny fries have their place. For one thing, they have more
>> > > surface area to crisp up, if that's what you like.

I prefer chunky ripple cut fries, crispy exteriors and chunky enough
to still taste like potatoes... and remain hot far longer. Those fast
food joint skinny fries (shoestring fries) are never crisp, served in
those impervious bags they quickly go limp and are mostly grease. I
like my ripple fries from a brown paper bag, allows steam to escape
and blots up excess grease.

>> > Aka 'shoestring fries'. Whenever I have a nice steak dinner, my
>> > favorite sides are a pile of nice salty deep fried shoestring
>> > fries and a pile of sweet corn with butter.
>
>> I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
>> with you.
>
>OK. I was talking about 2 different scenarios.
>
>Home cooked steak meals, it was always steak, shoestring fries
>and buttered corn.
>
>The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
>(she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
>while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
>choice of potato. Either baked or fries.

At sit down restaurant dinners I'll always choose baked so long as
they're not foil wrapped. Fries served on a plate are already cold
when served.

In article >, says...
>
> Janet wrote:
> > songbird says...
> >> dsi1 wrote:
> >> ...
> >> > A couple of Aussie products were popular in the states twenty years ago: tea tree oil and emu oil. The emu oil was sold as an anti-inflammatory and rub for aching muscles. A tub of the stuff was going for over 50 bucks. It was sold as a magical ingredient in much the same way as CBD oil. My guess is that next hot product will be Aussie snake oil. Well, if it ain't, it ought to be.
> >> ...
> >>
> >> i use tea tree oil a few times a week. it does
> >> what i want it to do.
> >>
> >> i haven't ever used emu oil.
> >>
> >>
> >> songbird
> >
> > I grow tea tree in the garden; my little grandson likes to make tea
> > with it. Bees love the flowers.
> >
> > Has the USA encountered teatree/ manuka honey yet? Becoming very
> > popular here as an effective medical dressing for infected wounds. Our
> > vet uses it and so does the medical practice. Produced in both Australia
> > and New Zealand.
> >
> > https://www.woundsresearch.com/artic...wound-dressing
>
> never heard of that but i have heard that you have
> to be careful with using honey on wounds as botulism
> can be a risk.

Table honey isn't sterile;medical grade honey is.

Janet UK

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:57:59 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
>
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > > Skinny fries have their place. For one thing, they have more
> > > > surface area to crisp up, if that's what you like.
> > >
> > > Aka 'shoestring fries'. Whenever I have a nice steak dinner, my
> > > favorite sides are a pile of nice salty deep fried shoestring
> > > fries and a pile of sweet corn with butter.
>
> > I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
> > with you.
>
> OK. I was talking about 2 different scenarios.
>
> Home cooked steak meals, it was always steak, shoestring fries
> and buttered corn.

Home cooked meals for us would never feature fries and corn. Always
salad first, then the steak and starch.

> The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
> (she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
> while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
> choice of potato. Either baked or fries.

We always eat the salad first, at home or away.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:06:18 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:57:59 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
>> > with you.
>>
>> OK. I was talking about 2 different scenarios.
>>
>> Home cooked steak meals, it was always steak, shoestring fries
>> and buttered corn.
>
>Home cooked meals for us would never feature fries and corn. Always
>salad first, then the steak and starch.
>
>> The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
>> (she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
>> while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
>> choice of potato. Either baked or fries.
>
>We always eat the salad first, at home or away.

How quaint of you. But didn't you also have a hangup about your food
not touching?

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:36:46 AM UTC-6, Janet wrote:
>
> In article >, says...
> >
> > Poor Me Too! Can you buy that fat or do you have to roast a bird
> > first?
>
> No, you can buy both fats in butchers, smkts and online here.
>
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooks-Co-Go.../dp/B0081G1PLS
>
> Janet UK
>
If Gary has a Kroger in his town he can purchase an 11 ounce jar of duck
fat there for $11.99.

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:06:18 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:57:59 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
> >> > with you.
> >>
> >> OK. I was talking about 2 different scenarios.
> >>
> >> Home cooked steak meals, it was always steak, shoestring fries
> >> and buttered corn.
> >
> >Home cooked meals for us would never feature fries and corn. Always
> >salad first, then the steak and starch.
> >
> >> The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
> >> (she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
> >> while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
> >> choice of potato. Either baked or fries.
> >
> >We always eat the salad first, at home or away.
>
> How quaint of you.

Why "quaint"?

> But didn't you also have a hangup about your food
> not touching?

Yes, but that's not why we eat the salad first.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 12:20:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:06:18 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >Home cooked meals for us would never feature fries and corn. Always
>> >salad first, then the steak and starch.
>> >
>> >> The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
>> >> (she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
>> >> while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
>> >> choice of potato. Either baked or fries.
>> >
>> >We always eat the salad first, at home or away.
>>
>> How quaint of you.
>
>Why "quaint"?

I don't think many people do that.

>> But didn't you also have a hangup about your food
>> not touching?
>
>Yes, but that's not why we eat the salad first.

If you do it any other way, something terrible will happen?

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> We always eat the salad first, at home or away.

I've never liked separate course meals. I want it all
served at once so I can alternate from one to the other.

I don't want to eat just meat and potato constantly.
A bite of salad is a good break now and then.

Not desserts though. I never eat that unless for a snack
much later. A good meal doesn't need to be immediately
followed by any dessert.

When I want to eat salad only, I'll make a deluxe one
and call it dinner. No more food.

" wrote:
> If Gary has a Kroger in his town he can purchase an 11 ounce jar of duck
> fat there for $11.99.

Thanks Joan. I do have a Kroger nearby (1.5 miles away).
I would probably just spend a bit more for a farm raised
duck to roast, enjoy the meat and save the fat.

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 4:56:48 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> " wrote:
>
> > If Gary has a Kroger in his town he can purchase an 11 ounce jar of duck
> > fat there for $11.99.
>
> Thanks Joan. I do have a Kroger nearby (1.5 miles away).
> I would probably just spend a bit more for a farm raised
> duck to roast, enjoy the meat and save the fat.
>
I don't think roasting a duck is in my repertoire and I don't think I'd
want to contend with the resulting mess.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:06:18 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:57:59 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'll take a salad instead of the corn, but otherwise I'm right
>>>> with you.
>>>
>>> OK. I was talking about 2 different scenarios.
>>>
>>> Home cooked steak meals, it was always steak, shoestring fries
>>> and buttered corn.
>>
>> Home cooked meals for us would never feature fries and corn. Always
>> salad first, then the steak and starch.
>>
>>> The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
>>> (she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
>>> while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
>>> choice of potato. Either baked or fries.
>>
>> We always eat the salad first, at home or away.
>
> How quaint of you. But didn't you also have a hangup about your food
> not touching?
>

Yoose still sniffing folk's asses gruce?

Yoose gonna get shit splattered on your face one day.

On 2/6/2020 5:55 PM, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> We always eat the salad first, at home or away.
>
> I've never liked separate course meals. I want it all
> served at once so I can alternate from one to the other.
>
> I don't want to eat just meat and potato constantly.
> A bite of salad is a good break now and then.
>
> Not desserts though. I never eat that unless for a snack
> much later. A good meal doesn't need to be immediately
> followed by any dessert.
>
> When I want to eat salad only, I'll make a deluxe one
> and call it dinner. No more food.
>

Restaurants give you a salad first so you have something to eat while
your meal is being cooked.

Mostly I eat it like you, but will sometimes eat some ahead while
finishing cooking the rest of the meal. In Italy it is often at the end
of the meal.

I have dessert later in the evening, usually about 8 PM.

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 3:50:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 12:20:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:06:18 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >Home cooked meals for us would never feature fries and corn. Always
> >> >salad first, then the steak and starch.
> >> >
> >> >> The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
> >> >> (she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
> >> >> while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
> >> >> choice of potato. Either baked or fries.
> >> >
> >> >We always eat the salad first, at home or away.
> >>
> >> How quaint of you.
> >
> >Why "quaint"?
>
> I don't think many people do that.
>
> >> But didn't you also have a hangup about your food
> >> not touching?
> >
> >Yes, but that's not why we eat the salad first.
>
> If you do it any other way, something terrible will happen?

Of course not.

If we eat the salad first, we have less room in our stomachs for
the more calorie-dense foods that follow.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 5:54:14 PM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > We always eat the salad first, at home or away.
>
> I've never liked separate course meals. I want it all
> served at once so I can alternate from one to the other.
>
> I don't want to eat just meat and potato constantly.
> A bite of salad is a good break now and then.
>
> Not desserts though. I never eat that unless for a snack
> much later. A good meal doesn't need to be immediately
> followed by any dessert.
>
> When I want to eat salad only, I'll make a deluxe one
> and call it dinner. No more food.

Everybody's different.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 02:40:16 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 3:50:05 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 12:20:01 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 1:57:29 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 10:06:18 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Home cooked meals for us would never feature fries and corn. Always
>> >> >salad first, then the steak and starch.
>> >> >
>> >> >> The few times I took my young daughter to Outback Steak House,
>> >> >> (she liked it), the dinner came with a salad first to eat
>> >> >> while the steaks were cooking. Then the steaks came with a
>> >> >> choice of potato. Either baked or fries.
>> >> >
>> >> >We always eat the salad first, at home or away.
>> >>
>> >> How quaint of you.
>> >
>> >Why "quaint"?
>>
>> I don't think many people do that.
>>
>> >> But didn't you also have a hangup about your food
>> >> not touching?
>> >
>> >Yes, but that's not why we eat the salad first.
>>
>> If you do it any other way, something terrible will happen?
>
>Of course not.
>
>If we eat the salad first, we have less room in our stomachs for
>the more calorie-dense foods that follow.

Great plan. You must both be very skinny.

On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 15:06:43 -0800 (PST), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 4:56:48 PM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>>
>> " wrote:
>>
>> > If Gary has a Kroger in his town he can purchase an 11 ounce jar of duck
>> > fat there for $11.99.
>>
>> Thanks Joan. I do have a Kroger nearby (1.5 miles away).
>> I would probably just spend a bit more for a farm raised
>> duck to roast, enjoy the meat and save the fat.
>>
>I don't think roasting a duck is in my repertoire and I don't think I'd
>want to contend with the resulting mess.

Only a couple of moves vary from roasting a chicken, no big mess, very
tasty and the added bonus of duck fat.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >If we eat the salad first, we have less room in our stomachs for
> >the more calorie-dense foods that follow.
>
> Great plan. You must both be very skinny.

If I remember correctly, Cindy lost quite a bit of
weight at one time. I seem to remember she lost
80 pounds. Is that right, Cindy?

Regardless, kudos to Cindy for sticking with a healthier
eating habit even after she lost the extra weight.

Too many people go on a diet, lose a lot of weight, then
revert back to their old bad diet habits and slowly
gain it all back again.

A diet to lose weight needs to be followed with a complete
diet change for lifetime maintenance. In most cases, you
can continue to eat what you like, just learn to be
satisfied with eating less of it.

Regular exercise plays an important part in all that too.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> If we eat the salad first, we have less room in our stomachs for
> the more calorie-dense foods that follow.

Not only that but if you eat small amount of something, you
might still feel hungry and unsatisfied. Wait only about
20 minutes later though until that "soaks in" and you won't
need much more to feel satisfied.

I read an article once that suggested eating a small
apple 20-30 minutes before you cook dinner. You'll find
yourself cooking a much smaller dinner. I tried it and
it works.

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 8:43:02 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >If we eat the salad first, we have less room in our stomachs for
> > >the more calorie-dense foods that follow.
> >
> > Great plan. You must both be very skinny.
>
> If I remember correctly, Cindy lost quite a bit of
> weight at one time. I seem to remember she lost
> 80 pounds. Is that right, Cindy?

Yes, that's right.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary wrote:
....
> I read an article once that suggested eating a small
> apple 20-30 minutes before you cook dinner. You'll find
> yourself cooking a much smaller dinner. I tried it and
> it works.

if you don't have apples a few prunes or any other fruit
and a glass of hot water in the middle of winter also helps
make you feel a lot fuller for longer, extra fiber hardly
ever hurts most people as they don't get enough anyways.


songbird

songbird wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > I read an article once that suggested eating a small
> > apple 20-30 minutes before you cook dinner. You'll find
> > yourself cooking a much smaller dinner. I tried it and
> > it works.
>
> if you don't have apples a few prunes or any other fruit
> and a glass of hot water in the middle of winter also helps
> make you feel a lot fuller for longer, extra fiber hardly
> ever hurts most people as they don't get enough anyways.

Do plums count for fiber as well as their dried prune version?
I'll occasionally eat fresh plums but never bought prunes.

Also... what does the hot water (vs cold water) do?

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 9:50:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> songbird wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > I read an article once that suggested eating a small
> > > apple 20-30 minutes before you cook dinner. You'll find
> > > yourself cooking a much smaller dinner. I tried it and
> > > it works.
> >
> > if you don't have apples a few prunes or any other fruit
> > and a glass of hot water in the middle of winter also helps
> > make you feel a lot fuller for longer, extra fiber hardly
> > ever hurts most people as they don't get enough anyways.
>
> Do plums count for fiber as well as their dried prune version?
> I'll occasionally eat fresh plums but never bought prunes.
>
> Also... what does the hot water (vs cold water) do?

I dunno. I'm having some prunes and a glass of cold water even
as we speak. After a short time in my stomach, everything is 98.6 F
anyway.

Cindy H amilton

On 2020-02-07 10:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 9:50:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
I'll occasionally eat fresh plums but never bought prunes.
>>
>> Also... what does the hot water (vs cold water) do?
>
> I dunno. I'm having some prunes and a glass of cold water even
> as we speak. After a short time in my stomach, everything is 98.6 F
> anyway.

When I was a kid we often has stewed prunes for dessert. I always liked
them. Maybe it's time to make some for myself.

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:39:13 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-02-07 10:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 9:50:50 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> I'll occasionally eat fresh plums but never bought prunes.
> >>
> >> Also... what does the hot water (vs cold water) do?
> >
> > I dunno. I'm having some prunes and a glass of cold water even
> > as we speak. After a short time in my stomach, everything is 98.6 F
> > anyway.
>
> When I was a kid we often has stewed prunes for dessert. I always liked
> them. Maybe it's time to make some for myself.

Oddly enough, I like "raw" prunes bug not stewed prunes. Nor do I like
prune juice. Cooking seems to kill the tartness that I like in raw
prunes.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I'm having some prunes and a glass of cold water even
> as we speak. After a short time in my stomach, everything is 98.6 F
> anyway.

Why the prunes? Just something you enjoy or is for a certain
reason?

To change the subject slightly..With the hot water thing.
My mom (age 87) recently told me that she DOES often have
a glass of warm milk in the evening to help her sleep.

I've heard that before but I don't understand why it would
help you sleep. Maybe it's just mind game - if you think it
helps it will. I suspect that's the case with mom.

Also - I like a glass of cold milk sometimes with certain
meals but a glass of it warm is something I'll never try.

Worked with a dummy once...young guy..he told me that each
evening he drinks a cup of "Sleepy Time" herbal tea made by
Celestial Seasonings. He claims it helps him sleep.

I pointed out that it won't help you sleep. It's just tea
with no caffeine (that might keep you awake). He disagreed.
Another mind game for him. If you believe it, it will work.



oh well.

On 2020-02-07 11:16 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:39:13 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:

>> When I was a kid we often has stewed prunes for dessert. I always liked
>> them. Maybe it's time to make some for myself.
>
> Oddly enough, I like "raw" prunes bug not stewed prunes. Nor do I like
> prune juice. Cooking seems to kill the tartness that I like in raw
> prunes.
>


They are almost comfort food for me. I had a strange encounter with
prunes when I worked at a canoe tripping camp in my early 20s. I was
hanging out in the trip room where they kept all all gear and food for
the canoe trips. We often munched on the food, and one day I was eating
the prunes. First time for me for raw. I was really enjoying them, and
the girl in charge warned me about their laxative effect. Nonsense. I
had been eating (stewed) prunes all my life with no ill effects. It
turned out that raw prunes do something to your guts that stewed prunes
do not.

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 6:31:59 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-02-07 11:16 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:39:13 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> >> When I was a kid we often has stewed prunes for dessert. I always liked
> >> them. Maybe it's time to make some for myself.
> >
> > Oddly enough, I like "raw" prunes bug not stewed prunes. Nor do I like
> > prune juice. Cooking seems to kill the tartness that I like in raw
> > prunes.
> >
>
>
> They are almost comfort food for me. I had a strange encounter with
> prunes when I worked at a canoe tripping camp in my early 20s. I was
> hanging out in the trip room where they kept all all gear and food for
> the canoe trips. We often munched on the food, and one day I was eating
> the prunes. First time for me for raw. I was really enjoying them, and
> the girl in charge warned me about their laxative effect. Nonsense. I
> had been eating (stewed) prunes all my life with no ill effects. It
> turned out that raw prunes do something to your guts that stewed prunes
> do not.

I've been eating prunes/mangos/apricots in a sweet-sour-salt sauce that's pretty intense. It's in a jar on the counter that's been sitting there for a couple of months. It's eaten as a snack!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...jLioxHlVL26SHn

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 11:20:11 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > I'm having some prunes and a glass of cold water even
> > as we speak. After a short time in my stomach, everything is 98.6 F
> > anyway.
>
> Why the prunes? Just something you enjoy or is for a certain
> reason?

Portable. Easily eaten during my morning break. Helps keep me
"regular".

> To change the subject slightly..With the hot water thing.
> My mom (age 87) recently told me that she DOES often have
> a glass of warm milk in the evening to help her sleep.
>
> I've heard that before but I don't understand why it would
> help you sleep. Maybe it's just mind game - if you think it
> helps it will. I suspect that's the case with mom.
>
> Also - I like a glass of cold milk sometimes with certain
> meals but a glass of it warm is something I'll never try.
>
> Worked with a dummy once...young guy..he told me that each
> evening he drinks a cup of "Sleepy Time" herbal tea made by
> Celestial Seasonings. He claims it helps him sleep.
>
> I pointed out that it won't help you sleep. It's just tea
> with no caffeine (that might keep you awake). He disagreed.
> Another mind game for him. If you believe it, it will work.

Chamomile. Many people find it relaxes them. Some people find
it makes them drowsy.

Cindy Hamilton