On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "Leo" wrote in message
>> vidual.Net...
>>
>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
>>
>> Dude! (see how I did that?) We’re running out of coal. It’s a
>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now. I
>> don’t believe Jack from environmental “scientists”. It’s lucky for
>> you that old men like me expire, so “woke” people inherit the Earth. I
>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose we’re in.
>>
>> leo
>>
>> ===
>>
>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
>> it??
>>
>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
>
>Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
>As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and a
>show off to the ladies.
>
>===
>
> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
>
>
dude

1) Originally, “dude” meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.

2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
with “city-slicker”

3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
“Look at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
hat?”

“What's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
horse!”

“Hey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!”

Janet US

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 4:58:18 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > It's no concern what all y'alls do.
>
> No one but you says "all y'all"
> That's silly and a myth about the southern lingo.
>
> "Y'all" is very commonly used in the south.
> "All y'all' is just a caricature of southern talk.
> Makes them sound stupid and illiterate.
>
> I do realize that Hawaii is the southern most state
> but y'all don't count as southern as far as talk goes.

I've heard it. I guess that blows your theory out of the water. Sorry about that. I knew exactly what he meant. It has the same meaning as "y'all" but more so.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "Leo" wrote in message
>> vidual.Net...
>>
>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
>>
>> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now.
>> I
>> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
>> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
>>
>> leo
>>
>> ===
>>
>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
>> it??
>>
>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
>
>Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
>As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and a
>show off to the ladies.
>
>===
>
> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
>
>
dude

1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.

2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
with €œcity-slicker€�

3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
€œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
hat?€�

€œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
horse!€�

€œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�

Janet US

===

Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate your
time to explain)

Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an insult or
used to a friend?

I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 09:58:28 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>> It's no concern what all y'alls do.
>
>No one but you says "all y'all"
>That's silly and a myth about the southern lingo.
>
>"Y'all" is very commonly used in the south.
>"All y'all' is just a caricature of southern talk.
>Makes them sound stupid and illiterate.
>
>I do realize that Hawaii is the southern most state
>but y'all don't count as southern as far as talk goes.

Even though it's "very commonly used in the south"?

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:18:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
> >
> >
> >"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> "Leo" wrote in message
> >> vidual.Net...
> >>
> >> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
> >> (in >):
> >>
> >>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
> >>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
> >>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
> >>
> >> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
> >> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now.
> >> I
> >> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
> >> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
> >> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
> >>
> >> leo
> >>
> >> ===
> >>
> >> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
> >> it??
> >>
> >> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
> >
> >Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
> >As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and a
> >show off to the ladies.
> >
> >===
> >
> > Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
> >
> >
> dude
>
> 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
> It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
>
> 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> with €œcity-slicker€�
>
> 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
> meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
> hat?€�
>
> €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> horse!€�
>
> €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
>
> Janet US
>
> ===
>
> Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate your
> time to explain)
>
> Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an insult or
> used to a friend?
>
> I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )

Mostly it gets used in a condescending manner on this newsgroup. It's Southern California hipster talk from the 90's. Old guys think it makes them sound hip. OTOH, it got popular with the kids again for awhile. Only the coolest and self-assured of dudes would call themselves a "dude."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJjCnWm5cvE

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:38:12 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 09:58:28 -0500, Gary > wrote:
>
> >dsi1 wrote:
> >> It's no concern what all y'alls do.
> >
> >No one but you says "all y'all"
> >That's silly and a myth about the southern lingo.
> >
> >"Y'all" is very commonly used in the south.
> >"All y'all' is just a caricature of southern talk.
> >Makes them sound stupid and illiterate.
> >
> >I do realize that Hawaii is the southern most state
> >but y'all don't count as southern as far as talk goes.
>
> Even though it's "very commonly used in the south"?

It seems that people on the mainland only know about their local area. The rest of the country doesn't matter to them. How sad is that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2uKdTmkTuU&t=140

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:18:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
> >
> >
> >"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> "Leo" wrote in message
> >> vidual.Net...
> >>
> >> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
> >> (in >):
> >>
> >>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
> >>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
> >>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
> >>
> >> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
> >> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before
> >> now.
> >> I
> >> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
> >> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
> >> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
> >>
> >> leo
> >>
> >> ===
> >>
> >> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
> >> it??
> >>
> >> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
> >
> >Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do
> >today.
> >As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and
> >a
> >show off to the ladies.
> >
> >===
> >
> > Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
> >
> >
> dude
>
> 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
> It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
>
> 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> with €œcity-slicker€�
>
> 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
> meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
> hat?€�
>
> €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> horse!€�
>
> €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
>
> Janet US
>
> ===
>
> Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate
> your
> time to explain)
>
> Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an insult
> or
> used to a friend?
>
> I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )

Mostly it gets used in a condescending manner on this newsgroup. It's
Southern California hipster talk from the 90's. Old guys think it makes them
sound hip. OTOH, it got popular with the kids again for awhile. Only the
coolest and self-assured of dudes would call themselves a "dude."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJjCnWm5cvE

====

Well whatever it is, I am keeping out of it! I can be sure to get it all
wrong if I do))

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>Sorry, sometimes my English is experimental.
>>>
>>>Apparently, this hoisting is a man's job, universally, also when it's
>>>raining hard
>>>
>>>===
>>>
>>> 'Particularly' when it is raining hard ....
>>
>>Yes
>>
>>> Incidentally, there is nowt wrong with your English .. Now Yorkshire
>>>might be a wee bit more difficult! (See how I dropped a bit of Scottish
>>>in
>>>there)
>>
>>Does Yorkshire happen to be what the Hairy Bikers speak? Do you know
>>them?
>>
>>===
>>
>> I don't know. I can't remember hearing them.
>>
>> Watch this:
>>
>> "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THsSizqiSKs"
>>
>> I have been away for too many years but I still understand it all. I
>>do still have some but now If I speak to a Yorkshire person they accuse me
>>of being posh LOLOL
>
>I've listened a bit more and I now know how to say "Better put the
>kettle on" in a Yorkshire accent:
>
>Bè pú kè on.
>
>===
>
> LOL I bet you would do ok)))

I'm already getting the hang of it

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>>Sorry, sometimes my English is experimental.
>>>
>>>Apparently, this hoisting is a man's job, universally, also when it's
>>>raining hard
>>>
>>>===
>>>
>>> 'Particularly' when it is raining hard ....
>>
>>Yes
>>
>>> Incidentally, there is nowt wrong with your English .. Now Yorkshire
>>>might be a wee bit more difficult! (See how I dropped a bit of Scottish
>>>in
>>>there)
>>
>>Does Yorkshire happen to be what the Hairy Bikers speak? Do you know
>>them?
>>
>>===
>>
>> I don't know. I can't remember hearing them.
>>
>> Watch this:
>>
>> "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THsSizqiSKs"
>>
>> I have been away for too many years but I still understand it all. I
>>do still have some but now If I speak to a Yorkshire person they accuse me
>>of being posh LOLOL
>
>I've listened a bit more and I now know how to say "Better put the
>kettle on" in a Yorkshire accent:
>
>Bè pú kè on.
>
>===
>
> LOL I bet you would do ok)))

I'm already getting the hang of it

===

I wouldn't have said it exactly like that but I would 'almost', have
understood what you said)))

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:59:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:18:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >
> > >"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> "Leo" wrote in message
> > >> vidual.Net...
> > >>
> > >> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
> > >> (in >):
> > >>
> > >>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
> > >>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
> > >>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
> > >>
> > >> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
> > >> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before
> > >> now.
> > >> I
> > >> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
> > >> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
> > >> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
> > >>
> > >> leo
> > >>
> > >> ===
> > >>
> > >> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
> > >> it??
> > >>
> > >> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
> > >
> > >Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do
> > >today.
> > >As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and
> > >a
> > >show off to the ladies.
> > >
> > >===
> > >
> > > Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
> > >
> > >
> > dude
> >
> > 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
> > It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
> >
> > 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> > to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> > with €œcity-slicker€�
> >
> > 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
> > meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> > reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> > €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
> > hat?€�
> >
> > €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> > horse!€�
> >
> > €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
> >
> > Janet US
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate
> > your
> > time to explain)
> >
> > Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an insult
> > or
> > used to a friend?
> >
> > I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )
>
> Mostly it gets used in a condescending manner on this newsgroup. It's
> Southern California hipster talk from the 90's. Old guys think it makes them
> sound hip. OTOH, it got popular with the kids again for awhile. Only the
> coolest and self-assured of dudes would call themselves a "dude."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJjCnWm5cvE
>
> ====
>
> Well whatever it is, I am keeping out of it! I can be sure to get it all
> wrong if I do))

The world is not ready for the Brits using the word "dude." My guess is something bad would happen if you did. For the sake of the world, do not utter that word! Thanks for your help.

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 21:03:01 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>
>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>Sorry, sometimes my English is experimental.
>>>>
>>>>Apparently, this hoisting is a man's job, universally, also when it's
>>>>raining hard
>>>>
>>>>===
>>>>
>>>> 'Particularly' when it is raining hard ....
>>>
>>>Yes
>>>
>>>> Incidentally, there is nowt wrong with your English .. Now Yorkshire
>>>>might be a wee bit more difficult! (See how I dropped a bit of Scottish
>>>>in
>>>>there)
>>>
>>>Does Yorkshire happen to be what the Hairy Bikers speak? Do you know
>>>them?
>>>
>>>===
>>>
>>> I don't know. I can't remember hearing them.
>>>
>>> Watch this:
>>>
>>> "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THsSizqiSKs"
>>>
>>> I have been away for too many years but I still understand it all. I
>>>do still have some but now If I speak to a Yorkshire person they accuse me
>>>of being posh LOLOL
>>
>>I've listened a bit more and I now know how to say "Better put the
>>kettle on" in a Yorkshire accent:
>>
>>Bè pú kè on.
>>
>>===
>>
>> LOL I bet you would do ok)))
>
>I'm already getting the hang of it
>
>===
>
> I wouldn't have said it exactly like that but I would 'almost', have
>understood what you said)))

lol, it's a starting point.

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:35:21 -0500, Sheldon > wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 00:49:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
>>>> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get bisque to
>>>> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be available
>>>> online, I was told they could not order it and I should go with white
>>>> and when needed, replace my other appliances in white as well. This
>>>> is the one I got:
>>>>
>>>> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
>>>>
>>>> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the burners
>>>> from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent the burners
>>>> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but after adding a 3
>>>> year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to about that much.
>>>>
>>>> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one. The
>>>> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the lowest
>>>> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low simmer. Oven
>>>> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider but not as high
>>>> from top to bottom.
>>>
>>> You probably need something like this:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
>>>
>>> Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas stove top
>>> all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works well.
>>
>>Not sure it would work with these burners.
>
>Your stove is electric, a flame tamer won't work with an electric
>stove.

the description says it works for both electric and gas

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:45:51 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:35:21 -0500, Sheldon > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 00:49:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
> >>>> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get bisque to
> >>>> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be available
> >>>> online, I was told they could not order it and I should go with white
> >>>> and when needed, replace my other appliances in white as well. This
> >>>> is the one I got:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
> >>>>
> >>>> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the burners
> >>>> from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent the burners
> >>>> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but after adding a 3
> >>>> year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to about that much.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one. The
> >>>> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the lowest
> >>>> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low simmer. Oven
> >>>> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider but not as high
> >>>> from top to bottom.
> >>>
> >>> You probably need something like this:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
> >>>
> >>> Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas stove top
> >>> all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works well.
> >>
> >>Not sure it would work with these burners.
> >
> >Your stove is electric, a flame tamer won't work with an electric
> >stove.
>
> the description says it works for both electric and gas

I'd just stick a cast iron pan on the burner and cook off of that. OTOH, there's no need to do that with an induction range. The heat control is so fine that it's ridiculous. It's so precise that it can be used for sous vide. OTOH, for folks that need extra help with the concept:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izM2nGAp0Vo

U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:35:21 -0500, Sheldon > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 00:49:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
>>>>> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get bisque to
>>>>> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be available
>>>>> online, I was told they could not order it and I should go with white
>>>>> and when needed, replace my other appliances in white as well. This
>>>>> is the one I got:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
>>>>>
>>>>> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the burners
>>>>> from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent the burners
>>>>> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but after adding a 3
>>>>> year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to about that much.
>>>>>
>>>>> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one. The
>>>>> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the lowest
>>>>> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low simmer. Oven
>>>>> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider but not as high
>>>>> from top to bottom.
>>>>
>>>> You probably need something like this:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
>>>>
>>>> Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas stove top
>>>> all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works well.
>>>
>>> Not sure it would work with these burners.
>>
>> Your stove is electric, a flame tamer won't work with an electric
>> stove.
>
> the description says it works for both electric and gas
>

They didn't consult Popeye when they wrote the description.

It's also not for use in goat barns!

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Leo" wrote in message
>> vidual.Net...
>>
>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
>>
>> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now.
>> I
>> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
>> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
>>
>> leo
>>
>> ===
>>
>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
>> it??
>>
>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
>
> Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
> As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and
> a
> show off to the ladies.
>
> ===
>
> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?

Apparently it means any person male or female. For a time it meant male.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>> "Leo" wrote in message
>>> vidual.Net...
>>>
>>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
>>> (in >):
>>>
>>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
>>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
>>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
>>>
>>> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
>>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now.
>>> I
>>> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
>>> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
>>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
>>>
>>> leo
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
>>> it??
>>>
>>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
>>
>>Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
>>As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and
>>a
>>show off to the ladies.
>>
>>===
>>
>> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
>>
>>
> dude
>
> 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
> It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
>
> 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> with €œcity-slicker€�
>
> 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
> meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
> hat?€�
>
> €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> horse!€�
>
> €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
>
> Janet US
>
> ===
>
> Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate your
> time to explain)
>
> Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an insult
> or used to a friend?
>
> I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )

Here it is not an insult. Examples a

"Dude! Did you see that?" This to call attention to something that happened.
It was one female talking to another.

"Oh! I thought you were talking to some dude!" This said to me by my
gardener after I hung up the phone and told him I had been talking to a
female friend. He meant it to mean "male".

It usually means "male" but can be used for females as well as can "bruh"
which is the newer version of "bro", meaning brother or friend who is as
close to you as a brother would be.

And then there is "like". As in, "I was like going to the store..."

Not sure how that came about but it's annoying and confusing to foreigners.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-02-22 4:35 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>
>>> Why should we really care? Mom bought her a new stove. Oven door broke,
>>> burner broke, getting old. Probably time to replace for little more than
>>> all the repairs.
>>>
>>> New stove, Julie is happy, mom is happy, life is good.
>>
>> Yes! And we have brownies!
>
> Yep. And they are full of all the things you aren't supposed to eat or
> can't eat.

Right. Which is why I didn't eat any.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-02-22 6:37 a.m., Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2020-02-21 7:46 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When is a stove burner on it's last legs? She said that one burner
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> shot and that the door was just a side bar issue. When I pointed out
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> cheap and easy it is to replace a burner the story changed to all
>>>>>> four
>>>>>> needing to be replaced. This is part of Julie's MO. she offers some
>>>>>> details but then completely changes the situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said... I paid $29 plus postage some years ago to replace one
>>>>> burner. I'm sure they cost more now despite what you claim. Also the
>>>>> drip
>>>>> pans needed replaced and there were parts broken off under the top of
>>>>> the
>>>>> stove that lifts up for cleaning. The stove was 16 years old. It was a
>>>>> cheap stove. It was time for a funeral.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then why were you whining so much about your special needs gardener
>>>> breaking the door?
>>>
>>> I wasn't. I merely mentioned that it broke
>>
>> Liar, you blamed the gardener/"he who no longer lives here"
>>
>> Here's what you posted in a thread called shattered oven door, Nov 17
>>
>> "Had an incident with he who longer lives here (Just me and the cats
>> now)where the oven door shattered. The claim is he slipped on oil on the
>> floor,his knee hit the door and it shattered. I did not buy this story
>> as there was no oil on the floor. I had Angela double check this. Yes,
>> there had been oil on the floor two days prior and it took me a long
>> time to clean it up.So that part, I don't buy. Then there was the fact
>> that other things in the kitchen were damaged and he claimed those
>> damages were related to the shattered oven door, but they couldn't
>> possibly be."
>>
>>
>
>
> But.... did she not go on and talk about how the broken door was just a
> side issue because one burner was kaput and the others all needed
> replacement. Oh.... that's right. She never mentioned those things at
> the time.

Because they weren't that way the time and I never said "kaput".

The door was back in Dec. It's now Feb.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > > My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
>> > > needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get
>> > > bisque to match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be
>> > > available online, I was told they could not order it and I should
>> > > go with white and when needed, replace my other appliances in
>> > > white as well. This is the one I got:
>> > >
>> > > https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
>> > >
>> > > It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the
>> > > burners from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent
>> > > the burners from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but
>> > > after adding a 3 year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to
>> > > about that much.
>> > >
>> > > So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one.
>> > > The burners have more settings than my old on and even on the
>> > > lowest setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low
>> > > simmer. Oven seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider
>> > > but not as high from top to bottom.
>> >
>> > You probably need something like this:
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
>> >
>> > Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas stove
>> > top all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works well.
>>
>> Not sure it would work with these burners.
>
> They are built for gas or electric and perfect match for the picture
> you posted of the new stove. Lots of variations on them for special
> needs but the basic one there will solve your issue.

Unless it's totally flat on the bottom, it's not recommended for use with
this stove. And the product got terrible reviews.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 21:03:01 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:03 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 10:41:14 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>
>>>"Bruce" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>Sorry, sometimes my English is experimental.
>>>>
>>>>Apparently, this hoisting is a man's job, universally, also when it's
>>>>raining hard
>>>>
>>>>===
>>>>
>>>> 'Particularly' when it is raining hard ....
>>>
>>>Yes
>>>
>>>> Incidentally, there is nowt wrong with your English .. Now
>>>> Yorkshire
>>>>might be a wee bit more difficult! (See how I dropped a bit of Scottish
>>>>in
>>>>there)
>>>
>>>Does Yorkshire happen to be what the Hairy Bikers speak? Do you know
>>>them?
>>>
>>>===
>>>
>>> I don't know. I can't remember hearing them.
>>>
>>> Watch this:
>>>
>>> "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THsSizqiSKs"
>>>
>>> I have been away for too many years but I still understand it all.
>>> I
>>>do still have some but now If I speak to a Yorkshire person they accuse
>>>me
>>>of being posh LOLOL
>>
>>I've listened a bit more and I now know how to say "Better put the
>>kettle on" in a Yorkshire accent:
>>
>>Bè pú kè on.
>>
>>===
>>
>> LOL I bet you would do ok)))
>
>I'm already getting the hang of it
>
>===
>
> I wouldn't have said it exactly like that but I would 'almost', have
>understood what you said)))

lol, it's a starting point.

====

It certainly is lol

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:59:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:18:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >
> > >"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> "Leo" wrote in message
> > >> vidual.Net...
> > >>
> > >> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
> > >> (in >):
> > >>
> > >>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
> > >>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
> > >>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
> > >>
> > >> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
> > >> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before
> > >> now.
> > >> I
> > >> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
> > >> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth.
> > >> I
> > >> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
> > >>
> > >> leo
> > >>
> > >> ===
> > >>
> > >> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you
> > >> use
> > >> it??
> > >>
> > >> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
> > >
> > >Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do
> > >today.
> > >As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed
> > >and
> > >a
> > >show off to the ladies.
> > >
> > >===
> > >
> > > Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
> > >
> > >
> > dude
> >
> > 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
> > It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
> >
> > 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> > to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> > with €œcity-slicker€�
> >
> > 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
> > meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> > reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> > €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
> > hat?€�
> >
> > €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> > horse!€�
> >
> > €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
> >
> > Janet US
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate
> > your
> > time to explain)
> >
> > Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an
> > insult
> > or
> > used to a friend?
> >
> > I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )
>
> Mostly it gets used in a condescending manner on this newsgroup. It's
> Southern California hipster talk from the 90's. Old guys think it makes
> them
> sound hip. OTOH, it got popular with the kids again for awhile. Only the
> coolest and self-assured of dudes would call themselves a "dude."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJjCnWm5cvE
>
> ====
>
> Well whatever it is, I am keeping out of it! I can be sure to get it
> all
> wrong if I do))

The world is not ready for the Brits using the word "dude." My guess is
something bad would happen if you did. For the sake of the world, do not
utter that word! Thanks for your help.

===

LOL May I ask if you are a 'cool dude' ?

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
...

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:35:21 -0500, Sheldon > wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 00:49:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
>>>> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get bisque to
>>>> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be available
>>>> online, I was told they could not order it and I should go with white
>>>> and when needed, replace my other appliances in white as well. This
>>>> is the one I got:
>>>>
>>>> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
>>>>
>>>> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the burners
>>>> from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent the burners
>>>> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but after adding a 3
>>>> year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to about that much.
>>>>
>>>> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one. The
>>>> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the lowest
>>>> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low simmer. Oven
>>>> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider but not as high
>>>> from top to bottom.
>>>
>>> You probably need something like this:
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
>>>
>>> Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas stove top
>>> all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works well.
>>
>>Not sure it would work with these burners.
>
>Your stove is electric, a flame tamer won't work with an electric
>stove.

the description says it works for both electric and gas

===

Yes! My new electric oven has that!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 11:45:51 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 10:35:21 -0500, Sheldon > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 00:49:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
> >>>> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get bisque to
> >>>> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be available
> >>>> online, I was told they could not order it and I should go with white
> >>>> and when needed, replace my other appliances in white as well. This
> >>>> is the one I got:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
> >>>>
> >>>> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the burners
> >>>> from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent the burners
> >>>> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but after adding a 3
> >>>> year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to about that much.
> >>>>
> >>>> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one. The
> >>>> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the lowest
> >>>> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low simmer. Oven
> >>>> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider but not as high
> >>>> from top to bottom.
> >>>
> >>> You probably need something like this:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
> >>>
> >>> Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas stove
> >>> top
> >>> all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works well.
> >>
> >>Not sure it would work with these burners.
> >
> >Your stove is electric, a flame tamer won't work with an electric
> >stove.
>
> the description says it works for both electric and gas

I'd just stick a cast iron pan on the burner and cook off of that. OTOH,
there's no need to do that with an induction range. The heat control is so
fine that it's ridiculous. It's so precise that it can be used for sous
vide. OTOH, for folks that need extra help with the concept:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izM2nGAp0Vo

====

You can use it for sous vide???? That is amazing!!

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Leo" wrote in message
>> vidual.Net...
>>
>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
>>
>> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now.
>> I
>> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
>> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
>>
>> leo
>>
>> ===
>>
>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
>> it??
>>
>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
>
> Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
> As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and
> a
> show off to the ladies.
>
> ===
>
> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?

Apparently it means any person male or female. For a time it meant male.

===

Gosh!!!

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 09:35:05 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:59:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:

>> Well whatever it is, I am keeping out of it! I can be sure to get it
>> all
>> wrong if I do))
>
>The world is not ready for the Brits using the word "dude." My guess is
>something bad would happen if you did. For the sake of the world, do not
>utter that word! Thanks for your help.
>
>===
>
> LOL May I ask if you are a 'cool dude' ?

If not, he could always be an old chap

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>>> "Leo" wrote in message
>>> vidual.Net...
>>>
>>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
>>> (in >):
>>>
>>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
>>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
>>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
>>>
>>> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
>>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now.
>>> I
>>> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
>>> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the Earth. I
>>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
>>>
>>> leo
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
>>> it??
>>>
>>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
>>
>>Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
>>As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and
>>a
>>show off to the ladies.
>>
>>===
>>
>> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
>>
>>
> dude
>
> 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
> It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
>
> 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> with €œcity-slicker€�
>
> 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
> meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
> hat?€�
>
> €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> horse!€�
>
> €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
>
> Janet US
>
> ===
>
> Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate your
> time to explain)
>
> Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an insult
> or used to a friend?
>
> I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )

Here it is not an insult. Examples a

"Dude! Did you see that?" This to call attention to something that happened.
It was one female talking to another.

"Oh! I thought you were talking to some dude!" This said to me by my
gardener after I hung up the phone and told him I had been talking to a
female friend. He meant it to mean "male".

It usually means "male" but can be used for females as well as can "bruh"
which is the newer version of "bro", meaning brother or friend who is as
close to you as a brother would be.

And then there is "like". As in, "I was like going to the store..."

Not sure how that came about but it's annoying and confusing to foreigners.

=====

It is confusing indeed! I suppose it will come here eventually At
least now I will know what it means so thank you)))

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-02-22 6:37 a.m., Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 2020-02-21 7:46 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When is a stove burner on it's last legs? She said that one burner
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> shot and that the door was just a side bar issue. When I pointed out
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> cheap and easy it is to replace a burner the story changed to all
>>>>>> four
>>>>>> needing to be replaced. This is part of Julie's MO. she offers some
>>>>>> details but then completely changes the situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said... I paid $29 plus postage some years ago to replace one
>>>>> burner. I'm sure they cost more now despite what you claim. Also the
>>>>> drip
>>>>> pans needed replaced and there were parts broken off under the top of
>>>>> the
>>>>> stove that lifts up for cleaning. The stove was 16 years old. It was a
>>>>> cheap stove. It was time for a funeral.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then why were you whining so much about your special needs gardener
>>>> breaking the door?
>>>
>>> I wasn't. I merely mentioned that it broke
>>
>> Liar, you blamed the gardener/"he who no longer lives here"
>>
>> Here's what you posted in a thread called shattered oven door, Nov 17
>>
>> "Had an incident with he who longer lives here (Just me and the cats
>> now)where the oven door shattered. The claim is he slipped on oil on the
>> floor,his knee hit the door and it shattered. I did not buy this story
>> as there was no oil on the floor. I had Angela double check this. Yes,
>> there had been oil on the floor two days prior and it took me a long
>> time to clean it up.So that part, I don't buy. Then there was the fact
>> that other things in the kitchen were damaged and he claimed those
>> damages were related to the shattered oven door, but they couldn't
>> possibly be."
>>
>>
>
>
> But.... did she not go on and talk about how the broken door was just a
> side issue because one burner was kaput and the others all needed
> replacement. Oh.... that's right. She never mentioned those things at
> the time.

Because they weren't that way the time and I never said "kaput".

The door was back in Dec. It's now Feb.

=====

He seems fascinated by you and anything you say

"Sheldon" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:25:14 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 3:38:26 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove
>>> wrote:
>>> > "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> > news >>> > > On 2/19/2020 12:11 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > >> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as
>>> > I needed >> electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get
>>> > bisque to match my >> other appliances. Although it appeared to be
>>> > available online, I was told >> they could not order it and I
>>> > should go with white and when needed, >> replace my other
>>> > appliances in white as well. This is the one I got:
>>> > > >
>>> > >> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
>>> > > >
>>> > >> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the
>>> > burners >> from being turned on with no pan there. They also
>>> > prevent the burners >> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that
>>> > price but after adding a 3 year >> warranty, delivery and a cord,
>>> > it added to about that much.
>>> > > >
>>> > >> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one.
>>> > The >> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the
>>> > lowest setting, >> the food continues to boil. Can't get a low
>>> > simmer. Oven seems hotter too >> and different proportions. Wider
>>> > but not as high from top to bottom.
>>> > > >
>>> > >> There's a push to get away from the use of natural gas here.
>>> > That could >> be why Lowes had so few gas ones on display. Mostly
>>> > they had the flat top >> and I freaking hate those things.
>>> > > >
>>> > >> Made pot roast for dinner. Did the meat on top of the stove and
>>> > roasted >> the veggies in the oven with a little beef broth. Should
>>> > have cooked the >> meat a bit longer but we were hungry so we ate
>>> > it as is. Good but could >> be a touch more tender.
>>> > >
>>> > > The button idea is a good one. I agree, I don't like the flat
>>> > > tops. I'm glad we have gas here though.
>>> >
>>> > They're trying to outlaw gas here. Soon nobody will be able to use
>>> > it.
>>>
>>> That's weird. I guess it's because it's a fossil fuel. Interesting.
>>> The US has an abundance of natural gas and now we can't use it. Are
>>> they trying to get rid of propane gas usage too?
>>
>>Land of Julie. Most places are pushing Gas as a cheap resource, less
>>harmful to the environment than the sources used to generate
>>electricity. Less expensive too.
>
> To date Julie has not shown any newspaper article supporting her
> claim, so I really don't believe her.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ill-no-longer/

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...atural-gas-ban

There! Now read and shut up.

"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2020-02-22 6:37 a.m., Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 2020-02-21 7:46 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When is a stove burner on it's last legs? She said that one burner
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> shot and that the door was just a side bar issue. When I pointed out
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> cheap and easy it is to replace a burner the story changed to all
>>>>>>> four
>>>>>>> needing to be replaced. This is part of Julie's MO. she offers some
>>>>>>> details but then completely changes the situation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said... I paid $29 plus postage some years ago to replace one
>>>>>> burner. I'm sure they cost more now despite what you claim. Also the
>>>>>> drip
>>>>>> pans needed replaced and there were parts broken off under the top of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> stove that lifts up for cleaning. The stove was 16 years old. It was
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> cheap stove. It was time for a funeral.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then why were you whining so much about your special needs gardener
>>>>> breaking the door?
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't. I merely mentioned that it broke
>>>
>>> Liar, you blamed the gardener/"he who no longer lives here"
>>>
>>> Here's what you posted in a thread called shattered oven door, Nov 17
>>>
>>> "Had an incident with he who longer lives here (Just me and the cats
>>> now)where the oven door shattered. The claim is he slipped on oil on the
>>> floor,his knee hit the door and it shattered. I did not buy this story
>>> as there was no oil on the floor. I had Angela double check this. Yes,
>>> there had been oil on the floor two days prior and it took me a long
>>> time to clean it up.So that part, I don't buy. Then there was the fact
>>> that other things in the kitchen were damaged and he claimed those
>>> damages were related to the shattered oven door, but they couldn't
>>> possibly be."
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> But.... did she not go on and talk about how the broken door was just a
>> side issue because one burner was kaput and the others all needed
>> replacement. Oh.... that's right. She never mentioned those things at
>> the time.
>
> Because they weren't that way the time and I never said "kaput".
>
> The door was back in Dec. It's now Feb.
>
> =====
>
> He seems fascinated by you and anything you say

I've noticed.

Gary wrote:

> dsi1 wrote:
> > It's no concern what all y'alls do.
>
> No one but you says "all y'all"
> That's silly and a myth about the southern lingo.
>
> "Y'all" is very commonly used in the south.
> "All y'all' is just a caricature of southern talk.
> Makes them sound stupid and illiterate.
>
> I do realize that Hawaii is the southern most state
> but y'all don't count as southern as far as talk goes.

Grin, come to think of it, not heard it locally but I have in the past
in other places. I lived in western SC for a long time and it was
common there. Kinda like us'uns (plural of us, sometimes spelled
us'ins' and correct is to say 'we').

Ophelia wrote:

> "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> > "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
> >
> >
> >"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "Leo" wrote in message
> > > vidual.Net...
> > >
> > > On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
> > > (in >):
> > >
> > > > You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also
> > > > mean you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want?
> > > > Because it doesn't have an effect anyway?
> > >
> > > Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
> > > diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long
> > > before now. I
> > > dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
> > > you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the
> > > Earth. I blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
> > >
> > > leo
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> >> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you
> use
> > > it??
> > >
> >> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
> >
> > Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do
> > today. As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite
> > well dressed and a show off to the ladies.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
> >
> >
> dude
>
> 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well.
> It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
>
> 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> with €œcity-slicker€�
>
> 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a term
> meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in his
> hat?€�
>
> €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> horse!€�
>
> €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
>
> Janet US
>
> ===
>
> Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I appreciate
> your time to explain)
>
> Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an
> insult or used to a friend?
>
> I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )

I'd say generically it just means 'male' now and can be as friendly as
all-get-out (bet you haven't heard that one often!).

all-get-out translates loosely as 'muchness' and isn't one you hear
locally in Va Beach area. In this case, it would be like saying 'very
friendly'.

Dude Ranch you have to watch for because the meaning can be very
slippery today. Can be as innocent as a boys ranch (camping but with
cabins) to a 'house of ill repute' (often with males catering to other
males).

Ophelia wrote:

> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:18:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
> > >
> > >
> >>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >>> "Leo" wrote in message
> >>> vidual.Net...
> > > >
> >>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
> >>> (in >):
> > > >
> >>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
> >>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
> >>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
> > > >
> >>> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
> >>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long
> before >> now. >>> I
> >>> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky for
> >>> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit the
> Earth. I >>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose were in.
> > > >
> >>> leo
> > > >
> >>> ===
> > > >
> >>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do
> you use >>> it??
> > > >
> >>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
> > >
> > > Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we
> > > do >today. As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was
> > > quite well dressed and >a show off to the ladies.
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> >> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
> > >
> > >
> > dude
> >
> > 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly
> > well. It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
> >
> > 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved
> > to the west without actually knowing what he was doing. Synonymous
> > with €œcity-slicker€�
> >
> > 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a
> > term meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> > reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as well.
> > €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the feather in
> > his hat?€�
> >
> > €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> > horse!€�
> >
> > €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
> >
> > Janet US
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I
> > appreciate your time to explain)
> >
> > Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as an
> > insult or used to a friend?
> >
> > I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )
>
> Mostly it gets used in a condescending manner on this newsgroup. It's
> Southern California hipster talk from the 90's. Old guys think it
> makes them sound hip. OTOH, it got popular with the kids again for
> awhile. Only the coolest and self-assured of dudes would call
> themselves a "dude."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJjCnWm5cvE
>
> ====
>
> Well whatever it is, I am keeping out of it! I can be sure to get
> it all wrong if I do))

Grin, we are full of odd phrases but being a big place, we vary with
them. Like 'willyknockers' or 'willyknockered' (probably head-spinning
is best translation or 'confused'). That one I trace to South Carolina
mountain folk.

With the advent of mass TV, such terms have largely gone by the wayside
and seem 'fake' now, but they were real live talk when I was growing up.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 9:59:36 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Saturday, February 22, 2020 at 8:18:25 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 16:50:36 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > "Julie Bove" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Ophelia" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >> "Leo" wrote in message
> > > >> vidual.Net...
> > > > >
> > > >> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
> > > >> (in >):
> > > > >
> > > >>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also
> > > mean >>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want?
> > > Because it >>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
> > > > >
> > > >> Dude! (see how I did that?) Were running out of coal. Its a
> > > >> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long
> > > before >> now.
> > > >> I
> > > >> dont believe Jack from environmental €œscientists€�. Its lucky
> > > for >> you that old men like me expire, so €œwoke€� people inherit
> > > the Earth. I >> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose
> > > were in.
> > > > >
> > > >> leo
> > > > >
> > > >> ===
> > > > >
> > > >> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!!
> > > Do you use >> it??
> > > > >
> > > >> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
> > > >
> > > > Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that
> > > > we do today.
> > > > As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well
> > > > dressed and a
> > > > show off to the ladies.
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > dude
> > >
> > > 1) Originally, €œdude€� meant a stuck up person who dressed overly
> > > well. It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.
> > >
> > > 2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who
> > > moved to the west without actually knowing what he was doing.
> > > Synonymous with €œcity-slicker€�
> > >
> > > 3) Later, in California, the term changed from these insults to a
> > > term meaning any male, human or otherwise. Sometimes it is used in
> > > reference to tom-girls. Now, it is often used for emphasis as
> > > well. €œLook at that rich fellow; what a dude! Do you see the
> > > feather in his hat?€�
> > >
> > > €œWhat's that dude doing in these parts? I bet he can't even ride a
> > > horse!€�
> > >
> > > €œHey dude, I missed you at the movies the other day!€�
> > >
> > > Janet US
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > Thanks very much) Aye words do change with time and I
> > > appreciate your
> > > time to explain)
> > >
> > > Does it get used as an insult here? It seems to be used as
> > > an insult or
> > > used to a friend?
> > >
> > > I guess it depends on who uses it and to whom? )
> >
> > Mostly it gets used in a condescending manner on this newsgroup.
> > It's Southern California hipster talk from the 90's. Old guys think
> > it makes them sound hip. OTOH, it got popular with the kids again
> > for awhile. Only the coolest and self-assured of dudes would call
> > themselves a "dude."
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJjCnWm5cvE
> >
> > ====
> >
> > Well whatever it is, I am keeping out of it! I can be sure to
> > get it all wrong if I do))
>
> The world is not ready for the Brits using the word "dude." My guess
> is something bad would happen if you did. For the sake of the world,
> do not utter that word! Thanks for your help.

The guys in my office call themselves collectively 'dudes'. When I
started working there, I became 'dude-ette' which is kinda cute and in
this case is inclusive behavior to the group.

Sheldon wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 00:49:25 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"cshenk" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> >>> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
> >>> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get
> bisque to >>> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be
> available >>> online, I was told they could not order it and I should
> go with white >>> and when needed, replace my other appliances in
> white as well. This >>> is the one I got:
> > > >
> >>> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
> > > >
> >>> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the
> burners >>> from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent
> the burners >>> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but
> after adding a 3 >>> year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to
> about that much.
> > > >
> >>> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one.
> The >>> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the
> lowest >>> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low
> simmer. Oven >>> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider
> but not as high >>> from top to bottom.
> > >
> >> You probably need something like this:
> > >
> >> https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
> > >
> >> Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas
> stove top >> all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works
> well.
> >
> > Not sure it would work with these burners.
>
> Your stove is electric, a flame tamer won't work with an electric
> stove.

Look up the link Sheldon. That one is for both types.

"Absorbs and diffuses heat evenly for greater energy efficiency;
eliminates hot pan and pot handles; safe for use on electric, gas, and
glass stovetops"

Sheldon wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:08:37 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> >> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
> >> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get bisque
> to >> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be available
> >> online, I was told they could not order it and I should go with
> white >> and when needed, replace my other appliances in white as
> well. This >> is the one I got:
> >>
> >> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
> >>
> >> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the
> burners >> from being turned on with no pan there. They also prevent
> the burners >> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that price but
> after adding a 3 >> year warranty, delivery and a cord, it added to
> about that much. >>
> >> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one.
> The >> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the
> lowest >> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low
> simmer. Oven >> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider but
> not as high >> from top to bottom.
> >
> > You probably need something like this:
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
> >
> > Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas stove
> > top all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works well.
>
> A flame tamer, used so a larger burner can do a slow simmer.

Lots of names for them and several types and sizes.

Gary wrote:

> Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 23:08:37 -0600, "cshenk" >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > >> My mom bought me a new one from Lowe's. The choices were few as I
> > >> needed electric and didn't want a flat top. I could not get
> > bisque to >> match my other appliances. Although it appeared to be
> > available >> online, I was told they could not order it and I
> > should go with white >> and when needed, replace my other
> > appliances in white as well. This >> is the one I got:
> > > >
> > >> https://products.geappliances.com/ap...pecs/JB258DMWW
> > > >
> > >> It has buttons in the centers of the burners that prevent the
> > burners >> from being turned on with no pan there. They also
> > prevent the burners >> from overheating. My mom didn't pay that
> > price but after adding a 3 >> year warranty, delivery and a cord,
> > it added to about that much.
> > > >
> > >> So far so good but it seems to get a lot hotter than my old one.
> > The >> burners have more settings than my old on and even on the
> > lowest >> setting, the food continues to boil. Can't get a low
> > simmer. Oven >> seems hotter too and different proportions. Wider
> > but not as high >> from top to bottom.
> > >
> > > You probably need something like this:
> > >
> > > https://www.amazon.com/HIC-Harold-Co.../dp/B000HM9ZSY
> > >
> > > Thats a simple one and I have 2 of them that reside on my gas
> > > stove top all the time for various uses. Not expensive and works
> > > well.
> >
> > A flame tamer, used so a larger burner can do a slow simmer.
>
> With my gas stove, any burner can do a slow simmer.

Mine doesn't (nor did the old one reliably). Thats ok. I just use
these to make it easy.

On 2020-02-23 7:52 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
> ...
Because they weren't that way the time and I never said "kaput".
>>
>> The door was back in Dec. It's now Feb.
>>
>> =====
>>
>> Â*Â* He seems fascinated by you and anything you say
>
> I've noticed.

It's fascinating to watch you spin yarns, get caught in your lies and
then dig yourself deeper and deeper, and then to do it all over again in
another thread.

On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 07:50:46 -0600, "cshenk" > wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>
>> The world is not ready for the Brits using the word "dude." My guess
>> is something bad would happen if you did. For the sake of the world,
>> do not utter that word! Thanks for your help.
>
>The guys in my office call themselves collectively 'dudes'. When I
>started working there, I became 'dude-ette' which is kinda cute and in
>this case is inclusive behavior to the group.

Does that mean I can call you cshenkie after all?

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 22:03:21 -0800, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Ophelia" > wrote in message
...
>> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>>
>>
>> "Ophelia" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Leo" wrote in message
>>> vidual.Net...
>>>
>>> On 2020 Feb 21, , Bruce wrote
>>> (in >):
>>>
>>>> You don't believe in man made global warming. Does that also mean
>>>> you're in favour of burning as much coal as we want? Because it
>>>> doesn't have an effect anyway?
>>>
>>> Dude! (see how I did that?) We’re running out of coal. It’s a
>>> diminishing resource. We were supposed to be out of oil long before now.
>>> I
>>> don’t believe Jack from environmental “scientists”. It’s lucky for
>>> you that old men like me expire, so “woke” people inherit the Earth. I
>>> blame Marco Polo for the mess that you suppose we’re in.
>>>
>>> leo
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> LOL I still haven't come to terms with the word 'woke'!!! Do you use
>>> it??
>>>
>>> BTW 'Dude' is still not something I know)
>>
>> Wow! My step-grandpa used "dude" but not in the same way that we do today.
>> As in, "Ain't he a dude!" Meaning that the man was quite well dressed and
>> a
>> show off to the ladies.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Oh that was nice! Probably not the meaning these days, eh?
>
>Apparently it means any person male or female. For a time it meant male.

For a female it's Dudette.

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 22:22:10 -0800, Julie Bove wrote:

> [...] I never said "kaput".

Speaking of 'kampot', (On-topic & sounds a bit similar ....):

It costs about twice as other black pepper. Is it worth it?

I must admit that I feel the pull just to try the red.

For $14, the local supermarket has a regular-size spice bottle with
built-in grinder.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kampot_%28pepper%29

http://www.kampotpepper.biz/