On 2020-02-25 9:10 a.m., wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 4:51:27 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
ngaroo burgers.
>>
>> BTW, I've lived all my adult life in the Southern US and I've never
>> tasted banana pudding.
>>
>> Jill
>>
> A good homemade, from scratch, banana pudding is a thing of beauty. The one
> the restaurant served was not homemade but it didn't stop me from partaking,
> just disappointed.

I have faint recall of both home made and commercially produced banana
pudding. Home made is not bad. Imitation banana flavouring is just plain
awful.

jmcquown wrote:
> Does Bruce assume everyone in the US drinks sugary sweet beverages and
> has diabetes?

Yes.

" wrote:
> Evidently. I guess we can automatically assume EVERYONE in Australia eats
> kangaroo burgers.

Interestingly, I read that the Australian govt. has been trying
to promote people eating kangaroo meat for years but it hasn't
taken.

Seems that there are too many because of no natural predators.

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:34:53 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message
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>
>On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:24:13 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
>>
>>On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:21:30 -0000, "Ophelia"
> wrote:
>>
>>>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 7:55:06 PM UTC-10,
>>>wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 10:14:27 PM UTC-6, Doris Night wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Can someone please explain to me exactly what "milk gravy" is? Is it
>>>> > simply bechamel sauce? Or something more complicated?
>>>> >
>>>> > I gotta tell you, if it's just bechamel sauce, I can't picture eating
>>>> > it on biscuits.
>>>> >
>>>> > Doris
>>>> >
>>>> No onions and definitely no nutmeg which are usually used in a bechamel
>>>> sauce.
>>>>
>>>> Around here the hot biscuits are split open and the gravy is ladled
>>>> over
>>>> them. Rib sticking food and NOT diet vittles.
>>>
>>>I had a steak and raw fish. It was rib sticking alright and yes, you can
>>>cook a steak in a wok.
>>>
>>>https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...QaMCp3c7tMb9KX
>>>
>>>===
>>>
>>> Are you not afraid of raw fish?? Not sure I could manage that!
>>
>>Scallop sushi is the best. Salmon sushi's good too.
>>
>>====
>>
>> Raw?
>
>Yes, raw scallops are quite sweet.
>
>====
>
> They can't harm you??

I've eaten raw fish for a long time and never gotten sick from it. But
only in Japanese restaurants, where they know what they're doing. Oh,
and also from supermarkets, but only if it looks fresh.

====

Ok thanks. We very rarely eat in any restaurants and haven't done so for
a very long time. D prefers what I cook)

I have never tried to cook things like scallops. Boring? Probably <g>

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
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On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 3:35:03 PM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> "Bruce" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:24:13 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Bruce" wrote in message
> .. .
> >
> >On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:21:30 -0000, "Ophelia"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 7:55:06 PM UTC-10,
> >>wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 10:14:27 PM UTC-6, Doris Night wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Can someone please explain to me exactly what "milk gravy" is? Is it
> >>> > simply bechamel sauce? Or something more complicated?
> >>> >
> >>> > I gotta tell you, if it's just bechamel sauce, I can't picture
> >>> > eating
> >>> > it on biscuits.
> >>> >
> >>> > Doris
> >>> >
> >>> No onions and definitely no nutmeg which are usually used in a
> >>> bechamel
> >>> sauce.
> >>>
> >>> Around here the hot biscuits are split open and the gravy is ladled
> >>> over
> >>> them. Rib sticking food and NOT diet vittles.
> >>
> >>I had a steak and raw fish. It was rib sticking alright and yes, you can
> >>cook a steak in a wok.
> >>
> >>https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...QaMCp3c7tMb9KX
> >>
> >>===
> >>
> >> Are you not afraid of raw fish?? Not sure I could manage that!
> >
> >Scallop sushi is the best. Salmon sushi's good too.
> >
> >====
> >
> > Raw?
>
> Yes, raw scallops are quite sweet.
>
> ====
>
> They can't harm you??

Anything can harm you. Look at Mad Cow Disease or any of a hundred other
food-borne diseases.

A lot of people think a little risk is worth a lot of deliciousness.

Cindy Hamilton

===

LOL not me))) Not if I can help it anyway))

On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 05:51:21 -0500, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 2/24/2020 5:05 PM, wrote:
>> On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 3:57:15 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> And refills of diabetes juice, I assume?
>>>
>> Soft drinks (colas) are not served there. But sweetened as well as
>> unsweetened tea, lemonade, and water were on the table the entire
>> time for those wanting to refill their glasses. I did not partake
>> of the tea as I didn't know how sweet it would be and I didn't want
>> to fill up on a sugary drink.
>>
>> I didn't eat any of the peach preserves either. Banana pudding was
>> not homemade.
>>
>Does Bruce assume everyone in the US drinks sugary sweet beverages and
>has diabetes?
>
>BTW, I've lived all my adult life in the Southern US and I've never
>tasted banana pudding.
>
>Jill

I've lived everywhere in the US, north south, east west and central
and never once tasted banana pudding, never even thought to since a
ripe banana is already practically already puddding... I do like to
add sliced banana to vanilla icecream... however for the past two
years I've been eating two bananas every day, doctors orders for night
leg cramps, and with a magnesium pill before bed. So far it's
worked... night leg cramps are awful, very painful, ruins a night's
sleep, by the time I could walk it off it was light out so I never did
get back to bed. Bananas are healthful and very low calorie with just
about zero fat. Only negative is that bananas have gotten expensive,
I can remember 9¢/lb, now they are normally 59¢/lb but sometimes
79¢/lb, and very rarely bananas go on sale for 39¢/lb... I'm tempted
to buy a bunch on sale but bananas don't keep well unless I freeze
them and at times I do, peel and wrap each in waxed paper and twist
the ends like a candy. Frozen bananas are like eating frozen custard.
I sometimes offer a frozen banana to a women, they seem to like it, I
enjoy watching women enjoy sucking on a frozen banana.

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 10:32:34 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 05:51:21 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 2/24/2020 5:05 PM, wrote:
> >> On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 3:57:15 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And refills of diabetes juice, I assume?
> >>>
> >> Soft drinks (colas) are not served there. But sweetened as well as
> >> unsweetened tea, lemonade, and water were on the table the entire
> >> time for those wanting to refill their glasses. I did not partake
> >> of the tea as I didn't know how sweet it would be and I didn't want
> >> to fill up on a sugary drink.
> >>
> >> I didn't eat any of the peach preserves either. Banana pudding was
> >> not homemade.
> >>
> >Does Bruce assume everyone in the US drinks sugary sweet beverages and
> >has diabetes?
> >
> >BTW, I've lived all my adult life in the Southern US and I've never
> >tasted banana pudding.
> >
> >Jill
>
> I've lived everywhere in the US, north south, east west and central
> and never once tasted banana pudding, never even thought to since a
> ripe banana is already practically already puddding... I do like to
> add sliced banana to vanilla icecream... however for the past two
> years I've been eating two bananas every day, doctors orders for night
> leg cramps, and with a magnesium pill before bed. So far it's
> worked... night leg cramps are awful, very painful, ruins a night's
> sleep, by the time I could walk it off it was light out so I never did
> get back to bed. Bananas are healthful and very low calorie with just
> about zero fat. Only negative is that bananas have gotten expensive,
> I can remember 9¢/lb, now they are normally 59¢/lb but sometimes
> 79¢/lb, and very rarely bananas go on sale for 39¢/lb... I'm tempted
> to buy a bunch on sale but bananas don't keep well unless I freeze
> them and at times I do, peel and wrap each in waxed paper and twist
> the ends like a candy. Frozen bananas are like eating frozen custard.
> I sometimes offer a frozen banana to a women, they seem to like it, I
> enjoy watching women enjoy sucking on a frozen banana.

Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps. That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of Tums will stop the cramps.

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 3:32:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 05:51:21 -0500, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 2/24/2020 5:05 PM, wrote:
> >> On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 3:57:15 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And refills of diabetes juice, I assume?
> >>>
> >> Soft drinks (colas) are not served there. But sweetened as well as
> >> unsweetened tea, lemonade, and water were on the table the entire
> >> time for those wanting to refill their glasses. I did not partake
> >> of the tea as I didn't know how sweet it would be and I didn't want
> >> to fill up on a sugary drink.
> >>
> >> I didn't eat any of the peach preserves either. Banana pudding was
> >> not homemade.
> >>
> >Does Bruce assume everyone in the US drinks sugary sweet beverages and
> >has diabetes?
> >
> >BTW, I've lived all my adult life in the Southern US and I've never
> >tasted banana pudding.
> >
> >Jill
>
> I've lived everywhere in the US, north south, east west and central
> and never once tasted banana pudding, never even thought to since a
> ripe banana is already practically already puddding... I do like to
> add sliced banana to vanilla icecream... however for the past two
> years I've been eating two bananas every day, doctors orders for night
> leg cramps, and with a magnesium pill before bed. So far it's
> worked... night leg cramps are awful, very painful, ruins a night's
> sleep, by the time I could walk it off it was light out so I never did
> get back to bed. Bananas are healthful and very low calorie with just
> about zero fat.

Too much sugar. Too little fiber. Not worth the calories for me.

> Only negative is that bananas have gotten expensive,
> I can remember 9¢/lb, now they are normally 59¢/lb but sometimes
> 79¢/lb, and very rarely bananas go on sale for 39¢/lb...

Bananas are cheap. The median household income in the U.S. is a little over
$27.16 per hour. At that rate, it takes less than a minute to earn enough to
buy a pound of bananas.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 2:32:34 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I've lived everywhere in the US, north south, east west and central
> and never once tasted banana pudding, never even thought to since a
> ripe banana is already practically already puddding.
>
If you ever get the chance to eat banana pudding made from scratch, give
it a try. If you eat any made out of instant vanilla pudding and then
whine it's not good, don't say I didn't warn you.
>
> for the past two
> years I've been eating two bananas every day, doctors orders for night
> leg cramps, and with a magnesium pill before bed. So far it's
> worked.
>
I take two OTC potassium caplets along with two OTC magnesium caplets
daily. Stops and prevents those awful leg cramps dead in their tracks.
I love bananas but would quickly tire of them if I ate two _each and
every day._

On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

> Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> Tums will stop the cramps.

A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the doctor
about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a while,
despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not effective
against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After a
while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one banana
a day, like I always did before and like I still do.

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> > Tums will stop the cramps.
>
> A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
> severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the doctor
> about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a while,
> despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not effective
> against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After a
> while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one banana
> a day, like I always did before and like I still do.

Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it just fade away for unknown reasons?

On 2020 Feb 25, , jmcquown wrote
(in article >):

> BTW, I've lived all my adult life in the Southern US and I've never
> tasted banana pudding.

You ought to try it once with Nilla wafers on top. Having said that, I
havent eaten any in thirty years. Im making my first Jello tonight
with canned tangerine wedges. If its a failure, this is the last anyone
will hear of it.

leo

On 2020 Feb 25, , Gary wrote
(in article >):

> Interestingly, I read that the Australian govt. has been trying
> to promote people eating kangaroo meat for years but it hasn't
> taken.
>
> Seems that there are too many because of no natural predators.

Well, Australia now has cane toads, rabbits, rats and maybe even camels.
Introducing a few cheetahs couldnt hurt.

leo

On 2020-02-25 11:30 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
>> severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the doctor
>> about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a while,
>> despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not effective
>> against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After a
>> while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one banana
>> a day, like I always did before and like I still do.
>
> Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it just fade away for unknown reasons?


No. I have always eaten bananas. I love them. I suddenly started
getting cramps in my legs. I went to the doctor, got the prescription.
The quinine didn't seem to be reducing the frequency or the severity of
the cramps so I stopped taking it. Within a week or two they pretty much
stopped happening.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> No. I have always eaten bananas. I love them. I suddenly started
> getting cramps in my legs.

If you don't mind, Dave, please explain in detail how these
leg cramps feel. I have a similar issue many nights.

It's not painful but is very uncomfortable feeling in my left
leg (and I always sleep on my left side). Only when I've laid
there like that for a long time though. I've always thought it
was a leg nerve issue but maybe not.

I can get up for a few minutes and walk around and it's not
so bad after that.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:49:28 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > No. I have always eaten bananas. I love them. I suddenly started
> > getting cramps in my legs.
>
> If you don't mind, Dave, please explain in detail how these
> leg cramps feel. I have a similar issue many nights.
>
> It's not painful but is very uncomfortable feeling in my left
> leg (and I always sleep on my left side). Only when I've laid
> there like that for a long time though. I've always thought it
> was a leg nerve issue but maybe not.
>
> I can get up for a few minutes and walk around and it's not
> so bad after that.

If you don't know what leg cramps feel like, consider yourself very lucky.

On 2020-02-26 9:49 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> No. I have always eaten bananas. I love them. I suddenly started
>> getting cramps in my legs.
>
> If you don't mind, Dave, please explain in detail how these
> leg cramps feel. I have a similar issue many nights.
>
> It's not painful but is very uncomfortable feeling in my left
> leg (and I always sleep on my left side). Only when I've laid
> there like that for a long time though. I've always thought it
> was a leg nerve issue but maybe not.
>
> I can get up for a few minutes and walk around and it's not
> so bad after that.
>


That could be a mild cramp. They sometimes precede the more serious
cramp. They can be down the back of the calf or the back of the thigh.
Muscles tighten up painfully. If they aren't too bad you can get up and
walk them off, but I had some that we so painful and so severe that I
could not stand up. A couple times I could feel a muscle sticking out
the back of my thigh. It was like a thick cable and rock hard with the
tension.

On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:15:45 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Feb 25, , jmcquown wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> BTW, I've lived all my adult life in the Southern US and I've never
>> tasted banana pudding.
>
>You ought to try it once with Nilla wafers on top. Having said that, I
>haven’t eaten any in thirty years. I’m making my first Jello tonight
>with canned tangerine wedges. If it’s a failure, this is the last anyone
>will hear of it.
>
>leo

Use the tangerine juice as part of the Jello liquid, and use less
liquid as those tangerine segments will add a lot liquid.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> > Tums will stop the cramps.
>
> A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
> severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the doctor
> about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a while,
> despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not effective
> against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After a
> while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one banana
> a day, like I always did before and like I still do.

Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it
just fade away for unknown reasons?

===

I don't know about the bananas, I needed quinine tablets for mine and it
helped a lot.

"Leo" wrote in message
vidual.Net...

On 2020 Feb 25, , jmcquown wrote
(in article >):

> BTW, I've lived all my adult life in the Southern US and I've never
> tasted banana pudding.

You ought to try it once with Nilla wafers on top. Having said that, I
havent eaten any in thirty years. Im making my first Jello tonight
with canned tangerine wedges. If its a failure, this is the last anyone
will hear of it.

leo

===

lol I hope you enoy)

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 12:18:52 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:49:28 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> >
> > If you don't mind, Dave, please explain in detail how these
> > leg cramps feel. I have a similar issue many nights.
> >
>
> If you don't know what leg cramps feel like, consider yourself very lucky.
>
That's the truth!! If he's ever had a leg cramp he'd never forget it and
know *exactly* what it feels like.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:19:43 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 12:18:52 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 4:49:28 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > If you don't mind, Dave, please explain in detail how these
> > > leg cramps feel. I have a similar issue many nights.
> > >
> >
> > If you don't know what leg cramps feel like, consider yourself very lucky.
> >
> That's the truth!! If he's ever had a leg cramp he'd never forget it and
> know *exactly* what it feels like.

If I was God, I'd give him leg cramps for 10 minutes. It's an experience that nobody should get to miss!

On 2020-02-26 3:19 p.m., wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 12:18:52 PM UTC-6, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>> If you don't know what leg cramps feel like, consider yourself very lucky.
>>
> That's the truth!! If he's ever had a leg cramp he'd never forget it and
> know *exactly* what it feels like.
>

Ditto for sciatica. I hurt my back at work, tore some lumbar muscles. A
few days after it happened I experienced an attack of a sciatica. I was
lying in bed minding my own business when I had a pain shoot down my
leg. About two minutes later it happened again, and then about 5
minutes after that and soon it was happening once or twice a minutes. It
went on for maybe a half an hour before I got up and walked around. That
got rid of it. I feel sorry for anyone who suffers from that on a
regular basis. It would be hell.

> That could be a mild cramp. They sometimes precede the more serious
> cramp. They can be down the back of the calf or the back of the thigh.
> Muscles tighten up painfully. If they aren't too bad you can get up and
> walk them off, but I had some that we so painful and so severe that I
> could not stand up. A couple times I could feel a muscle sticking out
> the back of my thigh. It was like a thick cable and rock hard with the
> tension.

I used to get them if I ate a high carb starchy meal and went to sleep
within about 3 hours, almost always in the outer lower portion of the
calf. Some I could walk off, others I'd sit on the edge of the tub
and spray my lower leg with hot water while messaging it. I heard that
drinking pickle juice before bedtime helps. I tried it and it did but
wasn't sure-fire enough. I then started taking a combination Calcium,
Magnesium and Zinc plus Vitamin D3 three times a day that I got at
Wally World and it did the trick. Cramping is rare now. Halleluja! I
love taking a good long nap about an hour after a big meal.

Nemo wrote:
....leg cramps aka charley horses...
> I used to get them if I ate a high carb starchy meal and went to sleep
> within about 3 hours, almost always in the outer lower portion of the
> calf. Some I could walk off, others I'd sit on the edge of the tub
> and spray my lower leg with hot water while messaging it. I heard that
> drinking pickle juice before bedtime helps. I tried it and it did but
> wasn't sure-fire enough. I then started taking a combination Calcium,
> Magnesium and Zinc plus Vitamin D3 three times a day that I got at
> Wally World and it did the trick. Cramping is rare now. Halleluja! I
> love taking a good long nap about an hour after a big meal.

sugar can trigger them for Mom. she takes extra calcium,
magnesium and some other things which help.

to me food comas are something i don't like at all so i
tend to eat a light meal and not too much sugar and i don't
have that problem. vegetables and just enough protein or
half a sandwhich is enough. i try to keep to not snacking at
night or between meals, but once in a while is ok.

i used to eat a high carb breakfast and crash not long
after it. now most mornings i have a banana with peanut
butter and don't crash at all - i feel a heck of a lot
better too. after 11 months i finally got back to 170lbs
and hope to take off another 15lbs in the next year or
two.


songbird

"Nemo" wrote in message
...


> That could be a mild cramp. They sometimes precede the more serious
> cramp. They can be down the back of the calf or the back of the thigh.
> Muscles tighten up painfully. If they aren't too bad you can get up and
> walk them off, but I had some that we so painful and so severe that I
> could not stand up. A couple times I could feel a muscle sticking out
> the back of my thigh. It was like a thick cable and rock hard with the
> tension.

I used to get them if I ate a high carb starchy meal and went to sleep
within about 3 hours, almost always in the outer lower portion of the
calf. Some I could walk off, others I'd sit on the edge of the tub
and spray my lower leg with hot water while messaging it. I heard that
drinking pickle juice before bedtime helps. I tried it and it did but
wasn't sure-fire enough. I then started taking a combination Calcium,
Magnesium and Zinc plus Vitamin D3 three times a day that I got at
Wally World and it did the trick. Cramping is rare now. Halleluja! I
love taking a good long nap about an hour after a big meal.

===

I found that if I could stand up and force my heel down onto the floor ...
it helped.

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:08:19 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> Nemo wrote:
> ...leg cramps aka charley horses...
> > I used to get them if I ate a high carb starchy meal and went to sleep
> > within about 3 hours, almost always in the outer lower portion of the
> > calf. Some I could walk off, others I'd sit on the edge of the tub
> > and spray my lower leg with hot water while messaging it. I heard that
> > drinking pickle juice before bedtime helps. I tried it and it did but
> > wasn't sure-fire enough. I then started taking a combination Calcium,
> > Magnesium and Zinc plus Vitamin D3 three times a day that I got at
> > Wally World and it did the trick. Cramping is rare now. Halleluja! I
> > love taking a good long nap about an hour after a big meal.
>
> sugar can trigger them for Mom. she takes extra calcium,
> magnesium and some other things which help.
>
> to me food comas are something i don't like at all so i
> tend to eat a light meal and not too much sugar and i don't
> have that problem. vegetables and just enough protein or
> half a sandwhich is enough. i try to keep to not snacking at
> night or between meals, but once in a while is ok.
>
> i used to eat a high carb breakfast and crash not long
> after it. now most mornings i have a banana with peanut
> butter and don't crash at all - i feel a heck of a lot
> better too. after 11 months i finally got back to 170lbs
> and hope to take off another 15lbs in the next year or
> two.
>
>
> songbird

Charley horses... that's so funny.

Food coma is a new one for me. The Hawaiian equivalent would be "kanak attack."

>
> sugar can trigger them for Mom. she takes extra calcium,
> magnesium and some other things which help.
>

Sweets in general were also a trigger for me. It seems odd
that starches and sweets would cause cramping as I'm not even
close to being pre-diabetic. My labs about 4 months ago showed
my glucose in the normal range and an A1C of only 5.1.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> > > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> > > Tums will stop the cramps.
> >
> > A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
> > severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the doctor
> > about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a while,
> > despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not effective
> > against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After a
> > while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one banana
> > a day, like I always did before and like I still do.
>
> Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it
> just fade away for unknown reasons?
>
> ===
>
> I don't know about the bananas, I needed quinine tablets for mine and it
> helped a lot.

Somebody brought in a fruit basket so I had myself a banana. It's not painful but I have to type with one hand. Looks like I should have had the pear.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> > > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> > > Tums will stop the cramps.
> >
> > A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
> > severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the doctor
> > about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a while,
> > despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not effective
> > against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After a
> > while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one banana
> > a day, like I always did before and like I still do.
>
> Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it
> just fade away for unknown reasons?
>
> ===
>
> I don't know about the bananas, I needed quinine tablets for mine and
> it
> helped a lot.

Somebody brought in a fruit basket so I had myself a banana. It's not
painful but I have to type with one hand. Looks like I should have had the
pear.

===

You are such a lucky lad ..

Nemo wrote:
....
> Sweets in general were also a trigger for me. It seems odd
> that starches and sweets would cause cramping as I'm not even
> close to being pre-diabetic. My labs about 4 months ago showed
> my glucose in the normal range and an A1C of only 5.1.

she's not diabetic either.


songbird

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 1:40:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > > > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> > > > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > > > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> > > > Tums will stop the cramps.
> > >
> > > A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
> > > severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the doctor
> > > about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a while,
> > > despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not effective
> > > against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After a
> > > while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one banana
> > > a day, like I always did before and like I still do.
> >
> > Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it
> > just fade away for unknown reasons?
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I don't know about the bananas, I needed quinine tablets for mine and
> > it
> > helped a lot.
>
> Somebody brought in a fruit basket so I had myself a banana. It's not
> painful but I have to type with one hand. Looks like I should have had the
> pear.
>
> ===
>
> You are such a lucky lad ..

Aye, that I am. I'm cooking a sous vide chuck roast. 130 degrees for 22 or so hours. It'll probably be epic. My dad used to cook/smoke chuck roast in a barrel for Christmas. Boy, that was epic too.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 1:40:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > > > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> > > > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > > > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> > > > Tums will stop the cramps.
> > >
> > > A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
> > > severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the
> > > doctor
> > > about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a
> > > while,
> > > despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not
> > > effective
> > > against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After
> > > a
> > > while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one
> > > banana
> > > a day, like I always did before and like I still do.
> >
> > Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it
> > just fade away for unknown reasons?
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I don't know about the bananas, I needed quinine tablets for mine
> > and
> > it
> > helped a lot.
>
> Somebody brought in a fruit basket so I had myself a banana. It's not
> painful but I have to type with one hand. Looks like I should have had the
> pear.
>
> ===
>
> You are such a lucky lad ..

Aye, that I am. I'm cooking a sous vide chuck roast. 130 degrees for 22 or
so hours. It'll probably be epic. My dad used to cook/smoke chuck roast in a
barrel for Christmas. Boy, that was epic too.

=====

Cool Do report back

I will be using sous vide tomorrow with some ribs)

On 2020 Feb 26, , Sheldon wrote
(in >):

> Use the tangerine juice as part of the Jello liquid, and use less
> liquid as those tangerine segments will add a lot liquid.

I did. It was a two-cup hot, two-cup cold deal. I poured the tangerine
liquid in the measuring cup and added water to make two cups of cold. It
jelled nicely and tastes fine but doesnt quite have that clean Dole gel
taste. It took two hours to gel enough to suspend the tangerine slices.
Thanks for that tip, rfc. Chocolate pudding is next.
I could get into this sixties cooking!

<https://i.postimg.cc/zXqQy6f0/Jello.jpg>

leo

On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 15:24:54 -0800, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Feb 26, , Sheldon wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Use the tangerine juice as part of the Jello liquid, and use less
>> liquid as those tangerine segments will add a lot liquid.
>
>I did. It was a two-cup hot, two-cup cold deal. I poured the tangerine
>liquid in the measuring cup and added water to make two cups of cold. It
>jelled nicely and tastes fine but doesn’t quite have that clean Dole gel
>taste. It took two hours to gel enough to suspend the tangerine slices.
>Thanks for that tip, rfc. Chocolate pudding is next.
>I could get into this sixties cooking!
>
><https://i.postimg.cc/zXqQy6f0/Jello.jpg>
>
>leo

Your Jello looks good but I'd have used even less liquid and and I'd
have used orange Jello.

I prefer the Jello pudding that requires cooking, and I like it
inverted on a dish and topped with Evap... chocolate pudding portions
inverted with evap is very close to lovely breast milk, sweet and
creamy.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 5:25:00 PM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
>
> On 2020 Feb 26, , Sheldon wrote
> (in >):
>
> > Use the tangerine juice as part of the Jello liquid, and use less
> > liquid as those tangerine segments will add a lot liquid.
>
> I did. It was a two-cup hot, two-cup cold deal. I poured the tangerine
> liquid in the measuring cup and added water to make two cups of cold. It
> jelled nicely and tastes fine but doesnt quite have that clean Dole gel
> taste. It took two hours to gel enough to suspend the tangerine slices.
> Thanks for that tip, rfc. Chocolate pudding is next.
> I could get into this sixties cooking!
>
> <https://i.postimg.cc/zXqQy6f0/Jello.jpg>
>
> leo
>
You did good!

On 2020-02-28 7:26 p.m., Sheldon wrote:

> Your Jello looks good but I'd have used even less liquid and and I'd
> have used orange Jello.
>
> I prefer the Jello pudding that requires cooking, and I like it
> inverted on a dish and topped with Evap... chocolate pudding portions
> inverted with evap is very close to lovely breast milk, sweet and
> creamy.

The stuff that just requires beating in cold milk was okay for a quick
and easy dessert. The cooked stuff was better. Home made trumps the
cooked mix.

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 8:06:33 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 1:40:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > > > > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have to
> > > > > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > > > > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets of
> > > > > Tums will stop the cramps.
> > > >
> > > > A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was experience
> > > > severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the
> > > > doctor
> > > > about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a
> > > > while,
> > > > despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not
> > > > effective
> > > > against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it. After
> > > > a
> > > > while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one
> > > > banana
> > > > a day, like I always did before and like I still do.
> > >
> > > Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did it
> > > just fade away for unknown reasons?
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > I don't know about the bananas, I needed quinine tablets for mine
> > > and
> > > it
> > > helped a lot.
> >
> > Somebody brought in a fruit basket so I had myself a banana. It's not
> > painful but I have to type with one hand. Looks like I should have had the
> > pear.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > You are such a lucky lad ..
>
> Aye, that I am. I'm cooking a sous vide chuck roast. 130 degrees for 22 or
> so hours. It'll probably be epic. My dad used to cook/smoke chuck roast in a
> barrel for Christmas. Boy, that was epic too.
>
> =====
>
> Cool Do report back
>
> I will be using sous vide tomorrow with some ribs)

I had some of the chuck roast tonight. It was tender and juicy enough to eat as a steak. OTOH, I think I prefer chuck in a beef stew or a pot roast. That's what's going to happen to the other half of this hunk of meat.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...ImiMAUP1aPiF-L

"Leo" wrote in message
vidual.Net...

On 2020 Feb 26, , Sheldon wrote
(in >):

> Use the tangerine juice as part of the Jello liquid, and use less
> liquid as those tangerine segments will add a lot liquid.

I did. It was a two-cup hot, two-cup cold deal. I poured the tangerine
liquid in the measuring cup and added water to make two cups of cold. It
jelled nicely and tastes fine but doesnt quite have that clean Dole gel
taste. It took two hours to gel enough to suspend the tangerine slices.
Thanks for that tip, rfc. Chocolate pudding is next.
I could get into this sixties cooking!

<https://i.postimg.cc/zXqQy6f0/Jello.jpg>

leo

===

That looks lovely)

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 8:06:33 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, February 28, 2020 at 1:40:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 12:48:05 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > On 2020-02-25 3:42 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Bananas are recommended for people that have leg cramps which can
> > > > > indicate a lack of potassium and magnesium in their diet. I have
> > > > > to
> > > > > avoid bananas on a regular basis because they give me leg cramps.
> > > > > That's not a problem. If I get cramps, a couple of 500mg tablets
> > > > > of
> > > > > Tums will stop the cramps.
> > > >
> > > > A few years ago I went through a period of time where I was
> > > > experience
> > > > severe leg cramps. It was enough of a problem that I went to the
> > > > doctor
> > > > about it. He gave me a prescription for quinine. I took it for a
> > > > while,
> > > > despite the sticker on the label that said that quinine is not
> > > > effective
> > > > against leg cramps. It didn't seem to help so I quit taking it.
> > > > After
> > > > a
> > > > while I stopped taking it. At the time I was eating at least one
> > > > banana
> > > > a day, like I always did before and like I still do.
> > >
> > > Did the leg cramps stop because you started eating the bananas or did
> > > it
> > > just fade away for unknown reasons?
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > I don't know about the bananas, I needed quinine tablets for mine
> > > and
> > > it
> > > helped a lot.
> >
> > Somebody brought in a fruit basket so I had myself a banana. It's not
> > painful but I have to type with one hand. Looks like I should have had
> > the
> > pear.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > You are such a lucky lad ..
>
> Aye, that I am. I'm cooking a sous vide chuck roast. 130 degrees for 22 or
> so hours. It'll probably be epic. My dad used to cook/smoke chuck roast in
> a
> barrel for Christmas. Boy, that was epic too.
>
> =====
>
> Cool Do report back
>
> I will be using sous vide tomorrow with some ribs)

I had some of the chuck roast tonight. It was tender and juicy enough to eat
as a steak. OTOH, I think I prefer chuck in a beef stew or a pot roast.
That's what's going to happen to the other half of this hunk of meat.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...ImiMAUP1aPiF-L

===

Looks good What will you do with it all??? We rarely eat beef so I
can't help!