This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
water?????

Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
your water turned off????

I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
a time like this, manage with no water?????


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On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????

That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.

ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
had it shut off, but you never know.

> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
> a time like this, manage with no water?????

The same way they manage at any other time with no water.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 02:51:17 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
>> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>> water?????
>>
>> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
>> your water turned off????
>
>That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.
>
>ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
>of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
>had it shut off, but you never know.
>
>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
>> a time like this, manage with no water?????
>
>The same way they manage at any other time with no water.

Why does GM keep saying that even the American poor have a higher
standard of living than the average European?

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:20:31 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????
>
> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
> a time like this, manage with no water?????
>

That is one thing we in St Louis MO USA will never run low on, as STL is at the confluence of two of the largest rivers in the United States, the Mississippi and Missouri rivers. And I have kayaked on them both!

John Kuthe...

On 4/17/2020 4:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
>> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>> water?????
>>
>> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
>> your water turned off????
> That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.
>
> ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
> of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
> had it shut off, but you never know.
>
>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
>> a time like this, manage with no water?????
> The same way they manage at any other time with no water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Â* What about those people in Flint that can't use the city water
because it's poisoning them with lead ? I wonder what the Democratic
leaders did with the money that should have been spent to upgrade
infrastructure ?

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On 4/17/2020 5:42 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 4/17/2020 4:51 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
>>> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>>> water?????
>>>
>>> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
>>> your water turned off????
>> That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.
>>
>> ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
>> of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
>> had it shut off, but you never know.
>>
>>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
>>> a time like this, manage with no water?????
>> The same way they manage at any other time with no water.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Â* What about those people in Flint that can't use the city water
> because it's poisoning them with lead ? I wonder what the Democratic
> leaders did with the money that should have been spent to upgrade
> infrastructure ?
>

Or the bribes they took from the unions to not update the building code.

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 8:32:58 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:20:31 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
> > This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> > people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> > water?????
> >
> > Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> > your water turned off????
> >
> > I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
> > a time like this, manage with no water?????
> >
>
> That is one thing we in St Louis MO USA will never run low on, as STL is at the confluence of two of the largest rivers in the United States, the Mississippi and Missouri rivers. And I have kayaked on them both!
>
> John Kuthe...

Jesus Wept! If you didn't pay your water bill, your water would be shut
off. It doesn't matter how much fetid crap rolls down the rivers to
St. Louis.

Cindy Hamilton

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????

That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.

ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
had it shut off, but you never know.

> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people,
> at
> a time like this, manage with no water?????

The same way they manage at any other time with no water.

Cindy Hamilton
====

But for domestic water?

UK regulations:

"Can a water company cut me off? No, a water company
cannot cut off the supply to a domestic property if you
currently live in it.

Despite this it's still important to pay any arrears
to avoid the risk of court action."

I am shocked that is not the same everywhere


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"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????

That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.

ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
had it shut off, but you never know.

> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people,
> at
> a time like this, manage with no water?????

The same way they manage at any other time with no water.

Cindy Hamilton
====

But for domestic water?

UK regulations:

"Can a water company cut me off? No, a water company
cannot cut off the supply to a domestic property if you
currently live in it.

Despite this it's still important to pay any arrears
to avoid the risk of court action."

I am shocked that is not the same everywhere


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"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
...

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????

That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.

ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
had it shut off, but you never know.

> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people,
> at
> a time like this, manage with no water?????

The same way they manage at any other time with no water.

Cindy Hamilton

====

Not here! See my other post!!!!





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On 4/17/2020 8:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 8:32:58 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:20:31 AM UTC-5, Ophelia wrote:
>>> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
>>> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>>> water?????
>>>
>>> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
>>> your water turned off????
>>>
>>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
>>> a time like this, manage with no water?????
>>>
>> That is one thing we in St Louis MO USA will never run low on, as STL is at the confluence of two of the largest rivers in the United States, the Mississippi and Missouri rivers. And I have kayaked on them both!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
> Jesus Wept! If you didn't pay your water bill, your water would be shut
> off. It doesn't matter how much fetid crap rolls down the rivers to
> St. Louis.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Â* I'm glad our water here comes from deep wells . Those folks in Da Loo
are drinking the effluent from the sewage processing plants of all the
cities upstream ... yecccch !

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On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> This morning I had a big shock!Â* There was a report on the radio that
> many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true!Â* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
> have your water turned off????
>
> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!Â*Â* How on earth can those people,
> at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>

Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
million of us. Getting water to a house does have a cost. Most are
probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
situation.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????
>
> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people,
> at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>

Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
million of us. Getting water to a house does have a cost. Most are
probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
situation
===

Oh I am so sorry that it can happen( If you read my other post(s)
(apols for that)

Any houses we live in in UK cannot have their water shut off Yes we can
be taken to court and we can be fined, but not cut off

It is a terrifying thought.



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On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 10:08:16 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> > This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> > people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> > water?????
> >
> > Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> > your water turned off????
>
> That's true. Just like electricity or any other utility.
>
> ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
> of the crisis. I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
> had it shut off, but you never know.
>
> > I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people,
> > at
> > a time like this, manage with no water?????
>
> The same way they manage at any other time with no water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
> ====
>
> But for domestic water?
>
> UK regulations:
>
> "Can a water company cut me off? No, a water company
> cannot cut off the supply to a domestic property if you
> currently live in it.
>
> Despite this it's still important to pay any arrears
> to avoid the risk of court action."
>
> I am shocked that is not the same everywhere

Yes, for domestic water.

Think about everything you know of the United States. It's all of a piece.

Cindy Hamilton

Ophelia wrote:
>
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????
>
> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people, at
> a time like this, manage with no water?????

you must live in a very sheltered place.

there are water issues in many areas of this planet.

humans seem to like to exploit things to the point
of destruction before they finally start being forced
to live within the carrying capacity of the areas
they inhabit. in ancient times they just moved on
after destroying a place. now there are fewer and
fewer places to move on to...


songbird

Terry Coombs wrote:
....
> Â* What about those people in Flint that can't use the city water
> because it's poisoning them with lead ? I wonder what the Democratic
> leaders did with the money that should have been spent to upgrade
> infrastructure ?

they've been replacing pipes. costs a lot of $.
not sure how far they are towards being finished but
i do know they've made progress.


songbird

"songbird" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that many
> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> water?????
>
> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will have
> your water turned off????
>
> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those people,
> at
> a time like this, manage with no water?????

you must live in a very sheltered place.

there are water issues in many areas of this planet.

humans seem to like to exploit things to the point
of destruction before they finally start being forced
to live within the carrying capacity of the areas
they inhabit. in ancient times they just moved on
after destroying a place. now there are fewer and
fewer places to move on to...


songbird

====

Not quite the same thing I was talking about as I think you know!





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On 4/17/2020 10:08 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton"Â* wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 4:20:31 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> This morning I had a big shock!Â* There was a report on the radio that
>> many
>> people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>> water?????
>>
>> Is that true!Â* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
>> have
>> your water turned off????
>
> That's true.Â* Just like electricity or any other utility.
>
> ISTR that Detroit was putting water shutoffs in abeyance for the duration
> of the crisis.Â* I doubt they're turning it back on for people who already
> had it shut off, but you never know.
>
>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!Â*Â* How on earth can those people,
>> at
>> a time like this, manage with no water?????
>
> The same way they manage at any other time with no water.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
> ====
>
> But for domestic water?
>
> Â*Â*Â* UK regulations:
>
> Â*Â*Â* "Can a water company cut me off? No, a water company
> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* cannot cut off the supply to a domestic property if you
> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* currently live in it.
>
> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Despite this it's still important to pay any arrears
> Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* to avoid the risk of court action."
>
> I am shocked that is not the same everywhere
>
Unless you have a *well* you pay whatever local company there is to
provide water. Yes, they expect you to pay the bill.

People don't always have a choice about where to get their water. When
I lived in west Tennessee, even though I didn't live within the Memphis
city limits, it was provided by Memphis Light Gas & Water. It's not as
if I could shop around for a different water provider or an electric
provider, either. Here in Beaufort County, water is provided by
Beaufort Jasper Water Authority. (Jasper is an adjoining county.)
Electricity and gas (if gas in an option) is a totally different company.

During this pandemic it is up to the individual providers as to whether
or not they shut off services. I've not heard of any running around
willy nilly shutting off water or electricity because suddenly people
can't pay the monthly bill. They aren't charging late fees or racking
up penalties for non-payment. They aren't disconnecting service due to
lack of payment. That would make them look *really* bad. But at some
point they do expect to be paid.

They're the ones maintaining the infrastructure and they have to pay
their employees. The billing clerks can work from home, sure. But the
people out repairing broken water mains and electric and gas lines are
still out there on the job so people won't have to go without essential
services.

People are being asked to pay as much as they can (even if it's just a
couple of dollars) each month so when this pandemic is finally over they
won't be hit with huge bills in arrears.

Jill

I got something in email from the water co and it said there will be no late charge for water bills.

On 4/17/2020 10:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>
> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> This morning I had a big shock!Â* There was a report on the radio that
>> many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't
>> have water?????
>>
>> Is that true!Â* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
>> have your water turned off????
>>
>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!Â*Â* How on earth can those
>> people, at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>>
>
> Rare, but can happen.Â* How many were shut off?Â* Very few of the 320
> million of us.Â* Getting water to a house does have a cost.Â* Most are
> probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
> situation
> ===
>
> Â*Oh I am so sorry that it can happen(Â* If you read my other post(s)
> (apols forÂ* that)
>
> Â*Any houses we live in in UK cannot have their water shut offÂ* Yes we
> can be taken to court and we can be fined, but not cut off
>
> Â*It is a terrifying thought.
>
>
>
Not really. There are ways to get help. If the water gets shut off you
can be sure they are true deadbeats with no intention of ever paying.
It is not because they are 10 days late, it is because they are years
late and living in squalor.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 16:58:35 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/17/2020 10:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski"Â* wrote in message ...
>>
>> Rare, but can happen.Â* How many were shut off?Â* Very few of the 320
>> million of us.Â* Getting water to a house does have a cost.Â* Most are
>> probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
>> situation
>> ===
>>
>> Â*Oh I am so sorry that it can happen(Â* If you read my other post(s)
>> (apols forÂ* that)
>>
>> Â*Any houses we live in in UK cannot have their water shut offÂ* Yes we
>> can be taken to court and we can be fined, but not cut off
>>
>> Â*It is a terrifying thought.
>>
>Not really. There are ways to get help. If the water gets shut off you
>can be sure they are true deadbeats with no intention of ever paying.
>It is not because they are 10 days late, it is because they are years
>late and living in squalor.

You have a lot of deadbeats then.

"Each year, millions of Americans have their water turned off as a
result of unpaid water bills. The organization Food & Water Watch
estimates that water was cut off to 15 million people in 2016, based
on information provided by utility companies. "
<https://consumer.findlaw.com/consumer-transactions/can-a-utility-company-shut-off-my-water-without-notice.html>

In article >, says...
>
> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > This morning I had a big shock!* There was a report on the radio that
> > many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> > water?????
> >
> > Is that true!* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
> > have your water turned off????
> >
> > I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!** How on earth can those people,
> > at a time like this, manage with no water?????
> >
>
> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
> million of us.


FSV of "rare, very few"

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ns-us-at-risk-
losing-running-water-amid-layoffs-triggered-coronavirus-pandemic


" in 2016, one in every 20 households were disconnected by public
water departments, leaving an estimated 15 million Americans without
running water."

In the coming downturn there's going to be a lot more unemployed
Americans at risk of unpaid water bills

Janet UK

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:58:40 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Not really. There are ways to get help. If the water gets shut off you
> can be sure they are true deadbeats with no intention of ever paying.
> It is not because they are 10 days late, it is because they are years
> late and living in squalor.
>
I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
market they lived next door to.

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:00:47 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:58:40 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Not really. There are ways to get help. If the water gets shut off you
>> can be sure they are true deadbeats with no intention of ever paying.
>> It is not because they are 10 days late, it is because they are years
>> late and living in squalor.
>>
>I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
>years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
>do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
>market they lived next door to.

How did they shower and flush the toilet?

On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:12:21 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:00:47 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
> >years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
> >do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
> >market they lived next door to.
>
> How did they shower and flush the toilet?
>
I haven't a clue, I was not that interested to ask. They have a retarded
son and the neighbor across the street sort of took him under her wing and
would make him take a shower at her house.

wrote:
> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:12:21 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:00:47 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
>>> years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
>>> do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
>>> market they lived next door to.
>>
>> How did they shower and flush the toilet?
>>
> I haven't a clue, I was not that interested to ask. They have a retarded
> son and the neighbor across the street sort of took him under her wing and
> would make him take a shower at her house.
>

You found Druce's next of kin, and he's not even thankful.

On 4/17/2020 5:53 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>>
>> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> This morning I had a big shock!* There was a report on the radio that
>>> many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>>> water?????
>>>
>>> Is that true!* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
>>> have your water turned off????
>>>
>>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!** How on earth can those people,
>>> at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>>>
>>
>> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
>> million of us.
>
>
> FSV of "rare, very few"
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ns-us-at-risk-
> losing-running-water-amid-layoffs-triggered-coronavirus-pandemic
>
>
> " in 2016, one in every 20 households were disconnected by public
> water departments, leaving an estimated 15 million Americans without
> running water."
>
> In the coming downturn there's going to be a lot more unemployed
> Americans at risk of unpaid water bills
>
> Janet UK
>
Sounds awfully high. Even in the low income areas it is rare to hear of
it. But hey, have fun,

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:18:36 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 4/17/2020 5:53 PM, Janet wrote:
>> In article >, says...
>>>
>>> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This morning I had a big shock!Â* There was a report on the radio that
>>>> many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>>>> water?????
>>>>
>>>> Is that true!Â* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
>>>> have your water turned off????
>>>>
>>>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!Â*Â* How on earth can those people,
>>>> at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>>>>
>>>
>>> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
>>> million of us.
>>
>>
>> FSV of "rare, very few"
>>
>> https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ns-us-at-risk-
>> losing-running-water-amid-layoffs-triggered-coronavirus-pandemic
>>
>>
>> " in 2016, one in every 20 households were disconnected by public
>> water departments, leaving an estimated 15 million Americans without
>> running water."
>>
>> In the coming downturn there's going to be a lot more unemployed
>> Americans at risk of unpaid water bills
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>Sounds awfully high. Even in the low income areas it is rare to hear of
>it. But hey, have fun,

Could it be that you have no idea what goes on in da hood?

On 4/17/2020 6:12 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:00:47 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:58:40 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Not really. There are ways to get help. If the water gets shut off you
>>> can be sure they are true deadbeats with no intention of ever paying.
>>> It is not because they are 10 days late, it is because they are years
>>> late and living in squalor.
>>>
>> I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
>> years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
>> do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
>> market they lived next door to.
>
> How did they shower and flush the toilet?
>
Probably ran a hose to the neighbor's house. Some towns have a fixed
cost and no meters so it would not be detected.

The numbers still seem very high. In Detroit there are many empty
houses that have water shut off and no one living there. That city
would be high counting them. I'm not inclined to go searching for the
methodology though. I have water here.

On 4/17/2020 9:06 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 20:18:36 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 4/17/2020 5:53 PM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article >, says...
>>>>
>>>> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> This morning I had a big shock!Â* There was a report on the radio that
>>>>> many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>>>>> water?????
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that true!Â* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
>>>>> have your water turned off????
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!Â*Â* How on earth can those people,
>>>>> at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
>>>> million of us.
>>>
>>>
>>> FSV of "rare, very few"
>>>
>>> https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ns-us-at-risk-
>>> losing-running-water-amid-layoffs-triggered-coronavirus-pandemic
>>>
>>>
>>> " in 2016, one in every 20 households were disconnected by public
>>> water departments, leaving an estimated 15 million Americans without
>>> running water."
>>>
>>> In the coming downturn there's going to be a lot more unemployed
>>> Americans at risk of unpaid water bills
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>>
>> Sounds awfully high. Even in the low income areas it is rare to hear of
>> it. But hey, have fun,
>
> Could it be that you have no idea what goes on in da hood?
>
Maybe. I've known plenty of people that had gas and electric shut off,
don't know of water.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that
> > many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> > water?????
> >
> > Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
> > have your water turned off????
> >
> > I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!  How on earth can those people,
> > at a time like this, manage with no water?????
> >
>
> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
> million of us. Getting water to a house does have a cost. Most are
> probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
> situation.

I agree with you, Ed. In this fairly short time where people have
lost income and might be late paying bills, I seriouly doubt
having
your water cut off is due to this situation. You will get several
notices to pay before they resort to a cut-off.

Even then, rather than just ignoring bills, it's always best to
call them up and explain your situation. Many are often willing
to help you work something out.

On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 05:27:03 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>> >
>> > This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that
>> > many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
>> > water?????
>> >
>> > Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
>> > have your water turned off????
>> >
>> > I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!  How on earth can those people,
>> > at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>> >
>>
>> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
>> million of us. Getting water to a house does have a cost. Most are
>> probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
>> situation.
>
>I agree with you, Ed. In this fairly short time where people have
>lost income and might be late paying bills, I seriouly doubt
>having
>your water cut off is due to this situation. You will get several
>notices to pay before they resort to a cut-off.

Do you think what Ophelia saw on UK TV was fake news?

On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 19:00:24 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

wrote:
>> On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 5:12:21 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:00:47 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
>>>> years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
>>>> do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
>>>> market they lived next door to.
>>>
>>> How did they shower and flush the toilet?
>>>
>> I haven't a clue, I was not that interested to ask. They have a retarded
>> son and the neighbor across the street sort of took him under her wing and
>> would make him take a shower at her house.
>>
>
>You found Druce's next of kin, and he's not even thankful.

I don't have showers across the street. I just jump in the creek.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

On 4/17/2020 10:29 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...
>
> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that
>> many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't
>> have water?????
>>
>> Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
>> have your water turned off????
>>
>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!! How on earth can those
>> people, at a time like this, manage with no water?????
>>
>
> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
> million of us. Getting water to a house does have a cost. Most are
> probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
> situation
> ===
>
> Oh I am so sorry that it can happen( If you read my other post(s)
> (apols for that)
>
> Any houses we live in in UK cannot have their water shut off Yes we
> can be taken to court and we can be fined, but not cut off
>
> It is a terrifying thought.
>
>
>
Not really. There are ways to get help. If the water gets shut off you
can be sure they are true deadbeats with no intention of ever paying.
It is not because they are 10 days late, it is because they are years
late and living in squalor.

====

I expect you are correct but that is how it is here.




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"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >
> > This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that
> > many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> > water?????
> >
> > Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
> > have your water turned off????
> >
> > I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!  How on earth can those
> > people,
> > at a time like this, manage with no water?????
> >
>
> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
> million of us. Getting water to a house does have a cost. Most are
> probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
> situation.

I agree with you, Ed. In this fairly short time where people have
lost income and might be late paying bills, I seriouly doubt
having
your water cut off is due to this situation. You will get several
notices to pay before they resort to a cut-off.

Even then, rather than just ignoring bills, it's always best to
call them up and explain your situation. Many are often willing
to help you work something out.

===

That sounds good! At least you know you can get help!



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On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 6:12:21 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:00:47 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Friday, April 17, 2020 at 3:58:40 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >> Not really. There are ways to get help. If the water gets shut off you
> >> can be sure they are true deadbeats with no intention of ever paying.
> >> It is not because they are 10 days late, it is because they are years
> >> late and living in squalor.
> >>
> >I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
> >years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
> >do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
> >market they lived next door to.
>
> How did they shower and flush the toilet?

You can flush the toilet by dumping a bucket of water in it.

Cindy Hamilton

In article >, says...
>
> On 4/17/2020 5:53 PM, Janet wrote:
> > In article >, says...
> >>
> >> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This morning I had a big shock!* There was a report on the radio that
> >>> many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> >>> water?????
> >>>
> >>> Is that true!* You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
> >>> have your water turned off????
> >>>
> >>> I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!** How on earth can those people,
> >>> at a time like this, manage with no water?????
> >>>
> >>
> >> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
> >> million of us.
> >
> >
> > FSV of "rare, very few"
> >
> > https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ns-us-at-risk-
> > losing-running-water-amid-layoffs-triggered-coronavirus-pandemic
> >
> >
> > " in 2016, one in every 20 households were disconnected by public
> > water departments, leaving an estimated 15 million Americans without
> > running water."
> >
> > In the coming downturn there's going to be a lot more unemployed
> > Americans at risk of unpaid water bills
> >
> > Janet UK
> >
> Sounds awfully high. Even in the low income areas it is rare to hear of
> it. But hey, have fun,

Here's the figures according to a nationwide survey of US water supply
companies.

https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/ne...15-million-us-
residents-had-water-shut-2016

"Top findings of the survey include:

Fifteen utilities reported shutoff rates of more than 10 percent.
The states with the highest shutoff rates are mostly concentrated in
the South ? Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana and Florida.
Jacksonville, Florida?s high shutoff rate?16 percent?affected 41,311
households, or an estimated 107,409 people.
Phoenix, Arizona?s shutoff rate, 9 percent, affected over 33,000
households, or 94,000 people. Tucson, Arizona had the highest shutoff
rate in the West, at 11 percent.
High rates of shutoffs occurred in midwestern states including South
Dakota, Iowa, Michigan and Wisconsin.
There is no data for four states including New Jersey and West
Virginia, where private companies operate the two largest utilities.
Only one private company responded to the survey, representing a 9
percent response rate. The response rate of public utilities was 93
percent.
The highest shutoff rates were disproportionately in cities with
more people living in poverty, more unemployment and more people of
color.

While the average city with the most shutoffs is low-income, not all
low-income cities engage in mass shutoffs. Jackson, Mississippi had high
rates of poverty (31 percent) and a zero percent shutoff rate. Jackson
has not had a water or sewer rate increase since voters approved an
increase to the sales tax to help improve the city?s infrastructure.
Meanwhile, some cities surveyed, like Eau Claire, Wisconsin and
Leominster, Massachusetts do not shut off water service for non-payment
at all."

Janet UK

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 05:27:03 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>
> >> On 4/17/2020 4:20 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> >> >
> >> > This morning I had a big shock! There was a report on the radio that
> >> > many people in USA were having a difficult time because they don't have
> >> > water?????
> >> >
> >> > Is that true! You have to pay water bills and if you don't, you will
> >> > have your water turned off????
> >> >
> >> > I have never heard of such a thing!!!!!  How on earth can those people,
> >> > at a time like this, manage with no water?????
> >> >
> >>
> >> Rare, but can happen. How many were shut off? Very few of the 320
> >> million of us. Getting water to a house does have a cost. Most are
> >> probably a year or more behind and made no attempt to resolve the
> >> situation.
> >
> >I agree with you, Ed. In this fairly short time where people have
> >lost income and might be late paying bills, I seriouly doubt
> >having
> >your water cut off is due to this situation. You will get several
> >notices to pay before they resort to a cut-off.
>
> Do you think what Ophelia saw on UK TV was fake news?

No but UK laws are different from US laws.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Bruce wrote:
> > How did they shower and flush the toilet?
>
> You can flush the toilet by dumping a bucket of water in it.

Not so easy to have a bucket of water handy if your water
is cut off. lol

On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 8:17:09 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Bruce wrote:
> > > How did they shower and flush the toilet?
> >
> > You can flush the toilet by dumping a bucket of water in it.
>
> Not so easy to have a bucket of water handy if your water
> is cut off. lol

Rainwater. Water from the source you snipped:

>>>> I knew of a family and from a friend their water had been cut off for a few
>>>> years. It seems they owed well over $600 in arrears and never attempted to
>>>> do a payment plan. They just got their water daily from a service/station
>>>> market they lived next door to.

Cindy Hamilton