Stories are beginning about investigations into frozen vegetable
plants and workers being told to show up so product doesn't spoil. I
can't see why that wouldn't also apply to food canning plants and
those facilities that handle only fresh produce.
rump wants to force everyone to work regardless of density of the
virus or whether they are sick. Workers say they refuse to work in
those unsafe conditions.
It will be interesting to see how everything goes.
Janet US

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:35:29 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>
>Stories are beginning about investigations into frozen vegetable
>plants and workers being told to show up so product doesn't spoil. I
>can't see why that wouldn't also apply to food canning plants and
>those facilities that handle only fresh produce.
>rump wants to force everyone to work regardless of density of the
>virus or whether they are sick. Workers say they refuse to work in
>those unsafe conditions.
>It will be interesting to see how everything goes.
>Janet US

There is extreme racism and immigration hatred involved in all of
this, too.OSHA pays no attention to enforcement and the CDC is ceding
its responsibilities.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
>
> Stories are beginning about investigations into frozen vegetable
> plants and workers being told to show up so product doesn't spoil. I
> can't see why that wouldn't also apply to food canning plants and
> those facilities that handle only fresh produce.
> rump wants to force everyone to work regardless of density of the
> virus or whether they are sick. Workers say they refuse to work in
> those unsafe conditions.
> It will be interesting to see how everything goes.
> Janet US

It's also happening to those who pick produce.

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:44:20 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:35:29 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Stories are beginning about investigations into frozen vegetable
>>plants and workers being told to show up so product doesn't spoil. I
>>can't see why that wouldn't also apply to food canning plants and
>>those facilities that handle only fresh produce.
>>rump wants to force everyone to work regardless of density of the
>>virus or whether they are sick. Workers say they refuse to work in
>>those unsafe conditions.
>>It will be interesting to see how everything goes.
>>Janet US
>
>There is extreme racism and immigration hatred involved in all of
>this, too.OSHA pays no attention to enforcement and the CDC is ceding
>its responsibilities.

rump is removing operating money from the CDC in order to make them
play his tune. I've been watching for his play on OSHA. Both of
those agencies have the power to enforce changes at all of these
plants or they will be closed. Not on rump's agenda. He wants the
votes in those states and he thinks he will get it from the big boys
that hold the bucks. If one half of the citizens is ill or dying
their remaining relatives aren't going to vote for him. When pressed,
rump said 'we have a plan to take care of them.' HUH! Show me.
But I agree on the racism and immigration bias. People like that
just don't count
Janet US

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:13:20 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> Stories are beginning about investigations into frozen vegetable
>> plants and workers being told to show up so product doesn't spoil. I
>> can't see why that wouldn't also apply to food canning plants and
>> those facilities that handle only fresh produce.
>> rump wants to force everyone to work regardless of density of the
>> virus or whether they are sick. Workers say they refuse to work in
>> those unsafe conditions.
>> It will be interesting to see how everything goes.
>> Janet US
>
>It's also happening to those who pick produce.

the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:27:14 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 20:44:20 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:35:29 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Stories are beginning about investigations into frozen vegetable
>>>plants and workers being told to show up so product doesn't spoil. I
>>>can't see why that wouldn't also apply to food canning plants and
>>>those facilities that handle only fresh produce.
>>>rump wants to force everyone to work regardless of density of the
>>>virus or whether they are sick. Workers say they refuse to work in
>>>those unsafe conditions.
>>>It will be interesting to see how everything goes.
>>>Janet US
>>
>>There is extreme racism and immigration hatred involved in all of
>>this, too.OSHA pays no attention to enforcement and the CDC is ceding
>>its responsibilities.
>
>rump is removing operating money from the CDC in order to make them
>play his tune. I've been watching for his play on OSHA. Both of
>those agencies have the power to enforce changes at all of these
>plants or they will be closed. Not on rump's agenda. He wants the
>votes in those states and he thinks he will get it from the big boys
>that hold the bucks. If one half of the citizens is ill or dying
>their remaining relatives aren't going to vote for him. When pressed,
>rump said 'we have a plan to take care of them.' HUH! Show me.
>But I agree on the racism and immigration bias. People like that
>just don't count
>Janet US


Smithfield is Chinese owned, so while he owes hundreds of millions to
a state run Chinese bank, he will maybe do a bit of public tweaking,
probably through prior agreement, he will let the company get away
with murder.

Oh, and notice that he chased out Chinese journalists and they chased
out ours. What a nice way to keep journalists from either place from
investigating the crooked craziness and dangerous business and health
practices..

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.

I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
of everything Trump.

You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.

This is the america that we all fear. No common sense.
Just blind hatred against one party or the other.
Americans are pretty much equal in that.

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 12:59:53 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> > the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
> > see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>
> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
> of everything Trump.
>
> You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
> will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
> He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
>

Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:58:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>
>I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>of everything Trump.

Just as you are steady in defending him against all odds.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 10:07:14 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 12:59:53 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
>>>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>>>
>>> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>>> of everything Trump.
>>>
>>> You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
>>> will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
>>> He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
>>>
>>
>> Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
>> and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.
>
> If they first inject themselves with bleach, they can safely go to
> work.
>

Maybe, but I think cresol works better when taken intravenously.

On 2020-04-30 10:58 a.m., Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>
> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
> of everything Trump.
>

https://postimg.cc/7CBZPJmg

Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 13:00:30 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2020-04-30 10:58 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
>>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>>
>> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>> of everything Trump.
>>
>
>https://postimg.cc/7CBZPJmg
>
>Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?

Gary blindly follows The Leader. When he sees Trump, his right arm
starts to twitch.

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:58:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>
>I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>of everything Trump.
>
>You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
>will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
>He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
>
>This is the america that we all fear. No common sense.
>Just blind hatred against one party or the other.
>Americans are pretty much equal in that.

I just gave you facts. Do you think it is o.k. for the president to
order the meat plants back to work and give the plants and owners
immunity from any legal action brought against them but not giving
any protections for the workers?
He's ordering the workers to go back and get sick and maybe die for
$15/hour. for the pork plants and $14/hour for the chicken plants.
The hot spots for the virus in each state is located in the plant
community.
That is not blind hatred on my part. It is anger that he did not
include edicts regarding plant cleaning, installation of separation of
workers, masks, hand washing facilities, closing down to accommodate
all the sick workers, testing to determine the scope of the sickness
etc

Janet US

graham wrote:
> On 2020-04-30 10:58 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the
>>> farmer can
>>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>>
>> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>> of everything Trump.
>>
>
> https://postimg.cc/7CBZPJmg
>
> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?

Drunpf is a shame.

But canadians have always whined about everything

Drumpf wins, canuck has sore rectum.

Druce whined:

>
> I see Gary get smaller with every line of this that he reads. Until
> there's only a little mouse with a twitching right arm left.
>

Oh dear ... Is he another missing dutchman?

There may be hell to pay if the king of holland investigates.

On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
(in >):

> Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
> and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.

And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
states to the respective governors, and nearly all are scared sh*tless to
make the call. The rest will act as petri dishes, and we go from there.
Personally, I think its too soon, but it has to happen sometime in the
near future.
Nobody knows sh*t, but were making strides, we think and hope.

leo

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:32:37 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
>> and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.
>
>And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
>states to the respective governors

He ceded power? Didn't the governors always have that power? And
didn't everybody know that, except Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
not American, you know.

On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
(in article >):

> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?

Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?

leo

Leo wrote:

> On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> (in >):
>
> > Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
> > and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.
>
> And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
> states to the respective governors, and nearly all are scared sh*tless to
> make the call. The rest will act as petri dishes, and we go from there.
> Personally, I think its too soon, but it has to happen sometime in the
> near future.
> Nobody knows sh*t, but were making strides, we think and hope.


Here ya go, Illannoy guv Pritzker IS scared shitless [although his missus flew down to Florida recently to holiday at their $12 million dollar horse farm, LOL!) and this article sez we will be on lockdown past July 4th weekend; I expect to see wide - spread civil disobedience if this happens:

https://www.gunssavelife.com/a-defic...uly-4-weekend/

A DEFICIT OF COURAGE: Gov. Pritzker plans to keep Illinois closed until after July 4 weekend

April 28, 2020

"Two independent sources inside Governor Pritzkers administration have confirmed that their boss plans to keep Illinois closed until after the July 4th weekend.

Neither official would talk on record, but both echoed the same potentially bad news for Land of Lincoln residents. And they cited the governors risk-aversion for his paralysis in making moves to open Illinois for business.

Last week, Governer Jay Robert Pritzker (aka Judgement: Bad) extended his Executive Order and related €œrules€ and other edicts through the end of May. However, the gov. has already faced one successful lawsuit blocking his unconstitutional restrictions. Additionally, a number of sheriffs and police chiefs have announced they have no intention of enforcing Pritzkers economically disastrous orders.

Behind the scenes and news conferences, Pritzker plans to keep Illinois closed through the end of the Independence Day weekend.

Why?

Because Chicago is the epicenter of Chinese flu cases in Illinois. And the governor remains utterly terrified that he will be blamed for any surge of infections and deaths that might follow a massive weekend of celebrations in the Windy City and in the collar counties, especially after a spring-time of people cooped up and eager to get out and socialize.

Yeah, its easy for him to heap blame upon President Trump but Pritzkers thin skin cant take it. Hes basically paralyzed with fear. Fear that he will be blamed. Fear that he will look weak and ineffective.

One specific event in particular has Pritzker terrified more than any other: the massive fireworks display in Chicago at Navy Pier. Hundreds of thousands gather together, packed closely, to watch the incredible pyrotechnic and laser show.

Aside from his fears of catching blame and second-guessing for Chinese flu infections and deaths, Pritzkers secondary fear is that he will look weak if (when) people begin to largely ignore his edicts from on high

Pritzkers worried the local businesses will tell government agents trying to implement business closures and other regulations to go pound sand. Because under Illinois Department of Health Act (20 ILCS 2305), while the Illinois Department of Public Health may shut down a non-compliant business, they must get a court hearing within 48-hours or the mandatory closure loses its force of law and government officials must then rely on €œvoluntary€ cooperation. And at this point, without a court order, the business owner may re-open with impunity. And stay open.

And even if the local health authorities go to court, theyre going to run up against local judges, elected by (and held accountable to) local people. Odds are under Equal Protection arguments and others, it will prove a tough sell for government to force closure of one business when others doing similar work under similar circumstances are allowed to remain open. (Construction as an example€¦ construction for government projects continues apace while private construction is supposed to be idled to protect against Wuflu infections).

In addition to fear that businesses and everyday people will begin to ignore his €œorders,€ Pritzkers worried about sheriffs, police chiefs and local units of government publicly refusing to enforce them.

This is why Mr. Multi-billionaire Governor came completely unglued when he heard about the Clay County court that sided with Rep. Darren Bailey in ruling Pritzker over-stepped his authority.

His Royal Highness doesnt like it when some rural county jurist tells the world that the Emporer has no clothes..."

</>

Leo wrote:

> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>
> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?


Lol, Leo...I'd describe Boy Prince Justin as a witless "fop" - and I am being *somewhat* charitable, even...

<chuckle>

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Greg

On 2020 Apr 30, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:32:37 -0700, >
> wrote:
>
> > On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> > (in >):
> >
> > > Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
> > > and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.
> >
> > And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
> > states to the respective governors
>
> He ceded power? Didn't the governors always have that power? And
> didn't everybody know that, except Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
> not American, you know.

Imprecise language on my part. Every governor would like him to be the
final word. Every congressman would too. Not one Democrat would object if
he did. One person to blame is safer than a thousand. He didnt fall for
it.
Meanwhile, he implemented the Defense Production Act for ventilators which
were deemed vital in early March, desperately needed, and practically
nonexistent for the coming crisis.

<https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...order-defense-
production-act-regarding-purchase-ventilators/>

Now we supply them to countries that need them. We have a glut, because
so-called sophisticated computer models didnt prognosticate sh*t. They
are pretty much like sophisticated climate change models that don't
prognosticate sh*t. You just gotta believe!
I seem to be using the word sh*t a lot lately. I wonder what it means?

leo

Leo wrote:

> On 2020 Apr 30, , Bruce wrote
> (in >):
>
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:32:37 -0700, >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> > > (in >):
> > >
> > > > Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
> > > > and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.
> > >
> > > And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
> > > states to the respective governors
> >
> > He ceded power? Didn't the governors always have that power? And
> > didn't everybody know that, except Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
> > not American, you know.
>
> Imprecise language on my part. Every governor would like him to be the
> final word. Every congressman would too. Not one Democrat would object if
> he did. One person to blame is safer than a thousand. He didnt fall for
> it.


In this case, he is a brilliant strategist...


> Meanwhile, he implemented the Defense Production Act for ventilators which
> were deemed vital in early March, desperately needed, and practically
> nonexistent for the coming crisis.
>
> <https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...order-defense-
> production-act-regarding-purchase-ventilators/>
>
> Now we supply them to countries that need them. We have a glut, because
> so-called sophisticated computer models didnt prognosticate sh*t.. They
> are pretty much like sophisticated climate change models that don't
> prognosticate sh*t. You just gotta believe!
> I seem to be using the word sh*t a lot lately. I wonder what it means?


History will one day judge that this whole extended lockdown thing as one of the biggest goofs in history, along the lines of Hitler invading the USSR or Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" utterance...

--
Best
Greg

On Fri, 01 May 2020 00:31:00 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Apr 30, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> He ceded power? Didn't the governors always have that power? And
>> didn't everybody know that, except Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
>> not American, you know.
>
>Imprecise language on my part. Every governor would like him to be the
>final word. Every congressman would too. Not one Democrat would object if
>he did. One person to blame is safer than a thousand. He didnt fall for
>it.

He wanted absolute power, thought he had absolute power, said he had
absolute power and then was corrected off-screen by wiser men than
him.

>Meanwhile, he implemented the Defense Production Act for ventilators which
>were deemed vital in early March, desperately needed, and practically
>nonexistent for the coming crisis.
>
><https://www.whitehouse.gov/president...order-defense-
>production-act-regarding-purchase-ventilators/>

Trump was too slow. He underestimated this crisis for a long time.
That's why the US is now the country with the second highest amount of
corona cases per capita, after Italy.

On 2020 May 1, , GM wrote
(in >):

> History will one day judge that this whole extended lockdown thing as one of
> the biggest goofs in history, along the lines of Hitler invading the USSR or
> Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" utterance...

Check out my refrigerator and high dollar ice cream -- Nancy Pelosi
If you need a job, go to work for an essential service -- Andrew Cuomo

Their arrogance is magnificent, but Democrats love them. I dont get it.

leo

Leo wrote:

> On 2020 May 1, , GM wrote
> (in >):
>
> > History will one day judge that this whole extended lockdown thing as one of
> > the biggest goofs in history, along the lines of Hitler invading the USSR or
> > Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" utterance...
>
> Check out my refrigerator and high dollar ice cream -- Nancy Pelosi
> If you need a job, go to work for an essential service -- Andrew Cuomo
>
> Their arrogance is magnificent, but Democrats love them. I dont get it.


It is like our Chicago Mayor boasting that she got a haircut, because "I need to present a professional appearance" - 'course she had a private hairdresser come to her home, and the happy haircut picture was posted on social media...

Or our FATASS billionaire (a heir to the Hyatt Hotels fortune, and the richest politician in the US) Illanoy governor's wife who just flew down to their lavish Florida horse farm...I guess this was "esential" travel, eh...???

But you don't see criticism about these things in the lamestream major liberal media...

Yeah the Dem "chattering classes" are sincerely hoping that this Chinese flu is the thing that will *finally* "get" Trump...even if it means the ruination of the economy and thus many milions of lives. Their dream is to so devastate the fates of average folks so that they can enforce a socialist agenda of dependency (similar to how the "War on Poverty" destroyed urban minorities and made them a dependent class)...if this continues the US will be looking a lot like destitute backwards Cuba...

Life in permanent lockdown is the dream of lefties like OAC who want the "Green New Deal"...I mean carbon emissions are down, fossil - fueled manufacturing is on the ropes, we can even be "eliminating" meat from our diets...all for the "public good"...!!!

If you wanna see "The Brave New Green World" in action, go here, very scary, fights worldwide are down 80 - 100%:

https://www.flightradar24.com/

All for now, but this is my informed opinion...

;-)

--
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Greg

On 2020 May 1, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Trump was too slow. He underestimated this crisis for a long time.
> That's why the US is now the country with the second highest amount of
> corona cases per capita, after Italy.

Regarding your premise, sure, why not? If you believe it, It has to be
true. Regarding corona cases, China cases are certainly far higher than we
will ever know. North Korea has no cases, and I have a ten dollar bridge in
Brooklyn to sell you.
What you and I believe are nearly all notions. Only math, leading to
provable, repeatable science are real. Repeat that last sentence, over and
over, as you go to sleep tonight. If you remember it tomorrow, it will
serve you well for the rest of your life.

leo

On Fri, 01 May 2020 01:38:33 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 May 1, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Trump was too slow. He underestimated this crisis for a long time.
>> That's why the US is now the country with the second highest amount of
>> corona cases per capita, after Italy.
>
>Regarding your premise, sure, why not? If you believe it, It has to be
>true. Regarding corona cases, China cases are certainly far higher than we
>will ever know. North Korea has no cases, and I have a ten dollar bridge in
>Brooklyn to sell you.

I knew you'd say this. I was not referring to dictatorships and
underdeveloped countries. In the developed world, the US comes 2nd in
cases per capita. Even though you had more time to prepare than the
Europeans. Trump failed big time. But I'm talking to a believer, I
know

"Leo" wrote in message
vidual.Net...

On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
(in >):

> Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
> and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.

And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
states to the respective governors, and nearly all are scared sh*tless to
make the call. The rest will act as petri dishes, and we go from there.
Personally, I think its too soon, but it has to happen sometime in the
near future.
Nobody knows sh*t, but were making strides, we think and hope.

leo

===

Yes, for us all!


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On 2020 May 1, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> I knew you'd say this. I was not referring to dictatorships and
> underdeveloped countries.
You have to learn to be specific. Otherwise, you wont be taken
seriously. Other than the other homework that I gave you, chant €œbe
specific€ as you go to sleep tonight. Thats two things.

> In the developed world, the US comes 2nd in
> cases per capita. Even though you had more time to prepare than the
> Europeans. Trump failed big time. But I'm talking to a believer, I
> know

How much earlier than the U.S., did Australia stop China travel? How much
earlier did the E.U.? Im too tired to look it up? Get back to me. Im
going to bed but await edification in two to three days. Im counting on
you.

leo

On Fri, 01 May 2020 02:26:49 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 May 1, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> I knew you'd say this. I was not referring to dictatorships and
>> underdeveloped countries.
>You have to learn to be specific. Otherwise, you wont be taken
>seriously. Other than the other homework that I gave you, chant €œbe
>specific€ as you go to sleep tonight. Thats two things.
>
>> In the developed world, the US comes 2nd in
>> cases per capita. Even though you had more time to prepare than the
>> Europeans. Trump failed big time. But I'm talking to a believer, I
>> know
>
>How much earlier than the U.S., did Australia stop China travel? How much
>earlier did the E.U.? Im too tired to look it up? Get back to me. Im
>going to bed but await edification in two to three days. Im counting on
>you.

You can do your own homework. He's your president. Lucky *******!

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:32:37 -0700, Leo >
> wrote:
>
> >On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
> >> and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.
> >
> >And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
> >states to the respective governors
>
> He ceded power? Didn't the governors always have that power? And
> didn't everybody know that, except Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
> not American, you know.

You worry so much, I'll nominate you as the American Mascot.

The individual state governors have always had the final say yet
Trump gets blamed for everything bad.

Sadly, Americans have turned this serious pandemic into
political games only thinking about next November.
NO ONE will take responsibility for their own actions.
So easy to blame someone else when they screw up.

On Fri, 01 May 2020 09:55:11 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 22:32:37 -0700, Leo >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2020 Apr 30, , Cindy Hamilton wrote
>> >(in >):
>> >
>> >> Nobody wants to work if it endangers their life. Him waving his hand
>> >> and saying "everybody back to work" is foolish and simplistic.
>> >
>> >And yet it isnt happening, because he ceded the power to open up the
>> >states to the respective governors
>>
>> He ceded power? Didn't the governors always have that power? And
>> didn't everybody know that, except Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
>> not American, you know.
>
>You worry so much, I'll nominate you as the American Mascot.
>
>The individual state governors have always had the final say yet
>Trump gets blamed for everything bad.
>
>Sadly, Americans have turned this serious pandemic into
>political games only thinking about next November.
>NO ONE will take responsibility for their own actions.
>So easy to blame someone else when they screw up.

This serious pandemic turned itself into a global socio-economic
crisis.

The ego-centricity you claim about it being only a political game in
and only so in the US because of the election is foolish and blind.

Boron Elgar wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >Sadly, Americans have turned this serious pandemic into
> >political games only thinking about next November.
> >NO ONE will take responsibility for their own actions.
> >So easy to blame someone else when they screw up.
>
> This serious pandemic turned itself into a global socio-economic
> crisis.
>
> The ego-centricity you claim about it being only a political game in
> and only so in the US because of the election is foolish and blind.

I'm only talking about conditions in the USA. Get it?
So tell me. Do you agree that it's all Trump's fault?
Or at least, mostly his? (in the USA, I'm talking about)

On Fri, 01 May 2020 10:15:36 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >Sadly, Americans have turned this serious pandemic into
>> >political games only thinking about next November.
>> >NO ONE will take responsibility for their own actions.
>> >So easy to blame someone else when they screw up.
>>
>> This serious pandemic turned itself into a global socio-economic
>> crisis.
>>
>> The ego-centricity you claim about it being only a political game in
>> and only so in the US because of the election is foolish and blind.
>
>I'm only talking about conditions in the USA. Get it?

I not only "get it," ya goofball, I analyze and write about it, ok?

>So tell me. Do you agree that it's all Trump's fault?
>Or at least, mostly his? (in the USA, I'm talking about)

What are you even talking about? What is Trump's fault? If you are
going to set up a straw man, at least put a few strands of straw in
it..

On Fri, 1 May 2020 01:37:07 -0700 (PDT), GM
> wrote:

>Leo wrote:
>
>> On 2020 May 1, , GM wrote
>> (in >):
>>
>> > History will one day judge that this whole extended lockdown thing as one of
>> > the biggest goofs in history, along the lines of Hitler invading the USSR or
>> > Marie Antoinette's "Let them eat cake" utterance...
>>
>> Check out my refrigerator and high dollar ice cream -- Nancy Pelosi
>> If you need a job, go to work for an essential service -- Andrew Cuomo
>>
>> Their arrogance is magnificent, but Democrats love them. I don’t get it.
>
>
>It is like our Chicago Mayor boasting that she got a haircut, because "I need to present a professional appearance" - 'course she had a private hairdresser come to her home, and the happy haircut picture was posted on social media...
>
>Or our FATASS billionaire (a heir to the Hyatt Hotels fortune, and the richest politician in the US) Illanoy governor's wife who just flew down to their lavish Florida horse farm...I guess this was "esential" travel, eh...???
>
>But you don't see criticism about these things in the lamestream major liberal media...
>
>snip
that's funny, I saw the criticism about those issues

On Wed, 29 Apr 2020 17:35:29 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>
>Stories are beginning about investigations into frozen vegetable
>plants and workers being told to show up so product doesn't spoil. I
>can't see why that wouldn't also apply to food canning plants and
>those facilities that handle only fresh produce.
>rump wants to force everyone to work regardless of density of the
>virus or whether they are sick. Workers say they refuse to work in
>those unsafe conditions.
>It will be interesting to see how everything goes.
>Janet US

The idiot people of this world need to realize that a virus has to run
its course. Can it be controlled? No not really. It can be slowed but
usually can not be stopped completely, at least not in a few years. It
is something that takes decades.
You can either have a lot of people that get infected all at once then
those that recover are fine and the problem has passed. in a few week
or maybe a few month. Or you can get every one to go into self
isolation and wear masks in public so you can slow the spread and then
the problem can take years for the virus to run its course. I will
always choose the first option. People are going to die anyway so TAKE
off the god damn masks and let this virus run its course.
But no the idiots in power want to remain in power even though they
are idiots and say wear your masks, so what ends up happening is the
planet will be shut down for longer periods of time, the economies all
go to shit, there is another world wide depression and PEOPLE STILL
get SICK AND SOME DIE!

GET OVER IT ALREADY. If its your time then suck it up an accept that
your time in this world is over. Dont boo hoo about it and send this
world into shit because you are worried about getting sick.
Now I do not know how many people are familiar with history BUT the
last world wide depression led to the second world war and 75+ million
people died because of it. That is what it took to bring this world
out of the depression. Is that what the idiots in power want now? Is
that what you want?
Should we all pray to the imaginary baby jesus and ask for help? Well
the christians might but then again the christians are one of the main
causes for ww2.

so choose what you want.

--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

On Fri, 01 May 2020 09:55:11 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> He ceded power? Didn't the governors always have that power? And
>> didn't everybody know that, except Trump? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
>> not American, you know.
>
>You worry so much, I'll nominate you as the American Mascot.
>
>The individual state governors have always had the final say yet
>Trump

/was the only one who didn't know that?

>gets blamed for everything bad.

I see.

>Sadly, Americans have turned this serious pandemic into
>political games only thinking about next November.
>NO ONE will take responsibility for their own actions.
>So easy to blame someone else when they screw up.

Trump doesn't care about all the people dying. He just wants to be
re-elected. Exactly like the US presidents during the Vietnam war.
They didn't care about American soldiers dying. They just wanted to be
re-elected.

On 4/30/2020 3:26 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:58:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
>>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>>
>> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>> of everything Trump.
>>
>> You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
>> will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
>> He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
>>
>> This is the america that we all fear. No common sense.
>> Just blind hatred against one party or the other.
>> Americans are pretty much equal in that.
>
> I just gave you facts. Do you think it is o.k. for the president to
> order the meat plants back to work and give the plants and owners
> immunity from any legal action brought against them but not giving
> any protections for the workers?
> He's ordering the workers to go back and get sick and maybe die for
> $15/hour. for the pork plants and $14/hour for the chicken plants.
> The hot spots for the virus in each state is located in the plant
> community.
> That is not blind hatred on my part. It is anger that he did not
> include edicts regarding plant cleaning, installation of separation of
> workers, masks, hand washing facilities, closing down to accommodate
> all the sick workers, testing to determine the scope of the sickness
> etc
>
> Janet US
>
The Big Giant Talking (Orange) Head still thinks everything will be back
to normal in a couple of weeks. [Note: I've noticed his orange "tan" is
noticibly fading... is he running out of Coppertone self-tanning
lotion?!) There are no facts to back up what he's saying. He talks
about how many people have access to Covid-19 tests with no facts to
back it up.

Any time one of the medical experts at one of his ["Look at ME!"] press
conferences tries to answer a medical question he cuts them off. He's
playing politics with people's lives while he's hunkered down in the
White House. Oh, and bitching because he can't leave the White House.
Uh... I for one would LOVE to see him leave the White House. Heh.

And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
everyone else?

Jill

On Fri, 1 May 2020 16:04:45 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>The Big Giant Talking (Orange) Head still thinks everything will be back
>to normal in a couple of weeks. [Note: I've noticed his orange "tan" is
>noticibly fading... is he running out of Coppertone self-tanning
>lotion?!) There are no facts to back up what he's saying. He talks
>about how many people have access to Covid-19 tests with no facts to
>back it up.
>
>Any time one of the medical experts at one of his ["Look at ME!"] press
>conferences tries to answer a medical question he cuts them off. He's
>playing politics with people's lives while he's hunkered down in the
>White House. Oh, and bitching because he can't leave the White House.
>Uh... I for one would LOVE to see him leave the White House. Heh.
>
>And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
>Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
>front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
>addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
>general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
>everyone else?

Does he think he can't get it because he gets tested?

On Fri, 1 May 2020 16:04:45 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/30/2020 3:26 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:58:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
>>>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>>>
>>> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>>> of everything Trump.
>>>
>>> You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
>>> will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
>>> He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
>>>
>>> This is the america that we all fear. No common sense.
>>> Just blind hatred against one party or the other.
>>> Americans are pretty much equal in that.
>>
>> I just gave you facts. Do you think it is o.k. for the president to
>> order the meat plants back to work and give the plants and owners
>> immunity from any legal action brought against them but not giving
>> any protections for the workers?
>> He's ordering the workers to go back and get sick and maybe die for
>> $15/hour. for the pork plants and $14/hour for the chicken plants.
>> The hot spots for the virus in each state is located in the plant
>> community.
>> That is not blind hatred on my part. It is anger that he did not
>> include edicts regarding plant cleaning, installation of separation of
>> workers, masks, hand washing facilities, closing down to accommodate
>> all the sick workers, testing to determine the scope of the sickness
>> etc
>>
>> Janet US
>>
>The Big Giant Talking (Orange) Head still thinks everything will be back
>to normal in a couple of weeks. [Note: I've noticed his orange "tan" is
>noticibly fading... is he running out of Coppertone self-tanning
>lotion?!) There are no facts to back up what he's saying. He talks
>about how many people have access to Covid-19 tests with no facts to
>back it up.
>
>Any time one of the medical experts at one of his ["Look at ME!"] press
>conferences tries to answer a medical question he cuts them off. He's
>playing politics with people's lives while he's hunkered down in the
>White House. Oh, and bitching because he can't leave the White House.
>Uh... I for one would LOVE to see him leave the White House. Heh.
>
>And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
>Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
>front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
>addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
>general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
>everyone else?
>
>Jill

I know, you're right.. It's all about the visual for the upcoming
election.
Janet US