jmcquown wrote:
> On 4/30/2020 3:26 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:58:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the
>>>> farmer can
>>>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
>>>
>>> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
>>> of everything Trump.
>>>
>>> You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
>>> will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
>>> He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
>>>
>>> This is the america that we all fear. No common sense.
>>> Just blind hatred against one party or the other.
>>> Americans are pretty much equal in that.
>>
>> I just gave you facts.* Do you think it is o.k. for the president to
>> order the meat plants back to work and give the plants and owners
>> immunity from any legal action brought against them* but* not giving
>> any protections for the workers?
>> He's ordering the workers to go back and get sick and maybe* die for
>> $15/hour.* for the pork plants and $14/hour for the chicken plants.
>> The hot spots for the virus in each state is located in the plant
>> community.
>> That is not blind hatred on my part.* It is anger that he did not
>> include edicts regarding plant cleaning, installation of
>> separation of
>> workers, masks, hand washing facilities, closing down to accommodate
>> all the sick workers, testing to determine the scope of the sickness
>> etc
>> Janet US
>>
> The Big Giant Talking (Orange) Head still thinks everything will be
> back to normal in a couple of weeks.* [Note: I've noticed his
> orange "tan" is noticibly fading... is he running out of Coppertone
> self-tanning lotion?!)* There are no facts to back up what he's
> saying.* He talks about how many people have access to Covid-19
> tests with no facts to back it up.
>
> Any time one of the medical experts at one of his ["Look at ME!"]
> press conferences tries to answer a medical question he cuts them
> off.* He's playing politics with people's lives while he's hunkered
> down in the White House.* Oh, and bitching because he can't leave
> the White House. Uh... I for one would LOVE to see him leave the
> White House. Heh.
>
> And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the
> Mayo Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
> front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask?* Pence
> addressed that by saying he gets tested every week.* Oh, I'm sure
> the general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly.
> What about everyone else?
>
> Jill

I'm scottish too Jill (Back to the Jacobian rebellian). You have to
fend for yourself. Drumpf is what he is. Don't bother attacking a
bag of shit, lass. The more you **** on a cockroach like Drumpf,
the more energy you waste.

On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:22:39 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 1 May 2020 16:04:45 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >On 4/30/2020 3:26 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:58:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >>
> >>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >>>> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
> >>>> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
> >>>
> >>> I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
> >>> of everything Trump.
> >>>
> >>> You just said the he wants all factory workers to work yet he
> >>> will be voted out because farm workers won't pick vegetables.
> >>> He wants everyone to get back to work and we need to.
> >>>
> >>> This is the america that we all fear. No common sense.
> >>> Just blind hatred against one party or the other.
> >>> Americans are pretty much equal in that.
> >>
> >> I just gave you facts. Do you think it is o.k. for the president to
> >> order the meat plants back to work and give the plants and owners
> >> immunity from any legal action brought against them but not giving
> >> any protections for the workers?
> >> He's ordering the workers to go back and get sick and maybe die for
> >> $15/hour. for the pork plants and $14/hour for the chicken plants.
> >> The hot spots for the virus in each state is located in the plant
> >> community.
> >> That is not blind hatred on my part. It is anger that he did not
> >> include edicts regarding plant cleaning, installation of separation of
> >> workers, masks, hand washing facilities, closing down to accommodate
> >> all the sick workers, testing to determine the scope of the sickness
> >> etc
> >>
> >> Janet US
> >>
> >The Big Giant Talking (Orange) Head still thinks everything will be back
> >to normal in a couple of weeks. [Note: I've noticed his orange "tan" is
> >noticibly fading... is he running out of Coppertone self-tanning
> >lotion?!) There are no facts to back up what he's saying. He talks
> >about how many people have access to Covid-19 tests with no facts to
> >back it up.
> >
> >Any time one of the medical experts at one of his ["Look at ME!"] press
> >conferences tries to answer a medical question he cuts them off. He's
> >playing politics with people's lives while he's hunkered down in the
> >White House. Oh, and bitching because he can't leave the White House.
> >Uh... I for one would LOVE to see him leave the White House. Heh.
> >
> >And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
> >Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
> >front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
> >addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
> >general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
> >everyone else?
> >
> >Jill
>
> I know, you're right.. It's all about the visual for the upcoming
> election.
> Janet US

Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.

On 5/1/2020 12:17 PM, wrote:

> People are going to die anyway

As long as you're going to be next, all righty then.

**** off, assnugget.

dsi1 brought this next lame idea :
> Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That
> gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>
You're so hawt looking, you should make
fun of others.

https://imgur.com/a/A6aJ7kZ

On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>
> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>
> leo
>
>
He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
guts to introduce sensible gun controls.

On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 2:41:24 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> dsi1 brought this next lame idea :
> > Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That
> > gringo is scary enough without a mask.
> >
> You're so hawt looking, you should make
> fun of others.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/A6aJ7kZ

Yoose guys are into body shaming. What is yoose - 14 year old girls? You're also collecting photos of me. That's creepy/psycho. Also, your photo editing leaves much to be desired.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ntFFYKHu6kE8o

On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:48:54 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>
>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>
>> leo
>>
>>
>He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>guts to introduce sensible gun controls.

I don't know if Trudeau's widely respected, but they're not laughing
at him behind his back as is the case with Trump.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 11:05:44 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:48:54 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>>On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>>
>>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>
>>> leo
>>>
>>>
>>He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>>guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>
>I don't know if Trudeau's widely respected, but they're not laughing
>at him behind his back as is the case with Trump.

I think the PM of Finland's widely respected:
<https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/106335554-1579006759563gettyimages-1192801006.jpeg?v=1580828299>

I don't know why.

On 2020-05-01 8:48 p.m., graham wrote:
> On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>
>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>
>> leo
>>
>>
> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.

I trust that you aren't referring to his latest knee jerk reaction to
the guy who went on a rampage that including killing a cop and stealing
her gun to shoot more people. The firearms he banned today have not
posed a problem to anyone. Meanwhile, he has opened up the prison doors
and released scores of violent offenders.

On Fri, 1 May 2020 17:33:08 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:22:39 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 May 2020 16:04:45 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:

snip
>> >And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
>> >Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
>> >front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
>> >addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
>> >general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
>> >everyone else?
>> >
>> >Jill
>>
>> I know, you're right.. It's all about the visual for the upcoming
>> election.
>> Janet US
>
>Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.

true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
Janet US

On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 4:19:56 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 1 May 2020 17:33:08 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:22:39 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Fri, 1 May 2020 16:04:45 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
>
> snip
> >> >And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
> >> >Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
> >> >front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
> >> >addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
> >> >general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
> >> >everyone else?
> >> >
> >> >Jill
> >>
> >> I know, you're right.. It's all about the visual for the upcoming
> >> election.
> >> Janet US
> >
> >Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>
> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
> Janet US

I'm no chicken little but I fear that nobody's safe at the moment.

U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> On Fri, 1 May 2020 17:33:08 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 1:22:39 PM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Fri, 1 May 2020 16:04:45 -0400, jmcquown >
> >> wrote:
>
> snip
> >> >And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
> >> >Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
> >> >front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
> >> >addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
> >> >general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
> >> >everyone else?
> >> >
> >> >Jill
> >>
> >> I know, you're right.. It's all about the visual for the upcoming
> >> election.
> >> Janet US
> >
> >Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>
> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
> Janet US


Not with "Sleepy Joe Biden" larking about, LOL...!!!

<snicker>

--
Best
Greg

On 5/1/2020 7:22 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 1 May 2020 16:04:45 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> And what's the deal with VP Pence visiting Covid-19 patients at the Mayo
>> Clinic and he's the only man in a ward full of sick people and
>> front-line healthcare workers who *isn't* wearing a mask? Pence
>> addressed that by saying he gets tested every week. Oh, I'm sure the
>> general population is thrilled he can get tested regularly. What about
>> everyone else?
>>
>> Jill
>
> I know, you're right.. It's all about the visual for the upcoming
> election.
> Janet US
>
The visual really sucks. Pence was supposed to be "in charge" of
handling this. The Mayo Clinic couldn't convince him to wear a freakin'
mask in a room full of infected people. Oh, he's fine! He gets tested
all the time! Good lord.

Jill

On 5/1/2020 10:15 AM, Gary wrote:
> Boron Elgar wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>>> Sadly, Americans have turned this serious pandemic into
>>> political games only thinking about next November.
>>> NO ONE will take responsibility for their own actions.
>>> So easy to blame someone else when they screw up.
>>
>> This serious pandemic turned itself into a global socio-economic
>> crisis.
>>
>> The ego-centricity you claim about it being only a political game in
>> and only so in the US because of the election is foolish and blind.
>
> I'm only talking about conditions in the USA. Get it?
> So tell me. Do you agree that it's all Trump's fault?
> Or at least, mostly his? (in the USA, I'm talking about)
>
I'm talking about conditions in the USA, too. It's a virus. It doesn't
care what political party you may or may not belong to. It's the
*response* to the panedemic we're talking about and yes, the buck does
stop and start with Trump and all the elected officials. Trump can't
just say everything is going to be okay because hey! Today is May 1st!
Time to go back outside! The virus hasn't been checking the calendar
nor does it care about the election cycle.

What are the Covid-19 numbers in your state, Gary? Do you even know?
Is the curve up or down?

Here in SC today May 1st, 2020: "160 new cases of the coronavirus
COVID-19, and 12 additional deaths were reported to DHEC."

Doesn't sound like a downward turn to me. But sure, if you want to go
hang out with Trump and his gang at a rally soon, feel free. That's all
he's been talking about lately.

Do you really think this POTUS gives a shit about you?

Jill

dsi1 explained on 5/1/2020 :
> On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 2:41:24 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> dsi1 brought this next lame idea :
>>> Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That
>>> gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>>>
>> You're so hawt looking, you should make
>> fun of others.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/A6aJ7kZ
>
> Yoose guys are into body shaming. What is yoose - 14 year old girls? You're
> also collecting photos of me. That's creepy/psycho. Also, your photo editing
> leaves much to be desired.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5ntFFYKHu6kE8o
>
You and your pal are both fugly humps.

https://imgur.com/a/jopeTXf

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> dsi1 wrote:
> >Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>
> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
> Janet US

Ok, Mrs.Democrat. Now your beloved Biden is accused of being
a "pussy-grabber" (TM Bruce). He says it's not true.

Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
No trial necessary.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> What are the Covid-19 numbers in your state, Gary? Do you even know?
> Is the curve up or down?

Virginia will begin to reduce restrictions starting this month.
I don't blindly follow anyone. Never needed any official to
tell me how to act either.

I'll continue to take precautions and do a "wait and see"
thing here.

My issue is that so many just want to pass the blame for
their own actions onto some official. Common trend these
days.

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > >Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
> >
> > true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
> > Janet US
>
> Ok, Mrs.Democrat. Now your beloved Biden is accused of being
> a "pussy-grabber" (TM Bruce). He says it's not true.
>
> Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
> Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
> automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
> No trial necessary.

I'm not Mrs. Democrat, but here's my take on it:

She makes a fairly compelling case, even 30 or so years later. I
wouldn't expect everyone's memories to be perfect.

However, it's quite unlikely that a man would get to the point of
doing what she claims without ever having done something similar
to anyone else. It seems unlikely he was overwhelmed by her charms
and simply lost his senses. Her case would be more compelling if
other credible women came forth to tell a comparable story.

I don't give a shit about "me too". People have always been tried in
the court of public opinion. Employers have the right to fire anyone
for any reason.

Would you prefer that sexual predators keep doing their thing?

Cindy Hamilton

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:29:41 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Never needed any official to
> tell me how to act either.

But some people do. I want the government to protect me from other people's
bad decisions. That's what it's there for.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/2/2020 9:00 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:29:41 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Never needed any official to
>> tell me how to act either.
>
> But some people do. I want the government to protect me from other people's
> bad decisions. That's what it's there for.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I'm just glad South Carolina isn't following (yet) the example of
Georgia's Governor Kemp. Apparently it's very important to be able to
get your hair and nails done (which involve close contact) during a
pandemic. Oh, and everyone needs to be allowed to go bowling. These
things are *very* important. <snork>

Jill

Bruce wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
>
> >"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >> the farmers aren't going to vote for rump or any GOP if the farmer can
> >> see his produce rotting in the field or on the tree.
> >
> >I will say one thing. You are certainly steady in your hatred
> >of everything Trump.
>
> Just as you are steady in defending him against all odds.

OK Bruce...here's the deal.

John here often posts dumb shit and he is constantly picked
on and bullied to no end. Even when he posts normal things,
he's always critisized here. At this point, he is
damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
And you stick up for him because of the constant bullying.
I agree too.

Same for me with Trump. Not our best President and he often
says dumb shit but this insane constant bullying is not
right. He's also damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

You defend John against the bullying yet you join the
wolf pack against Trump. Respond with your niftiest retort
but you ARE a bully just like those you don't like.
Your way is not necessarily the right way.

On 5/2/2020 8:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>> Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>>
>> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
>> Janet US
>
> Ok, Mrs.Democrat. Now your beloved Biden is accused of being
> a "pussy-grabber" (TM Bruce). He says it's not true.
>
> Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
> Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
> automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
> No trial necessary.
>
Ever wonder why it took her almost 30 years to mention it? The Me Too
movement is older than that. She didn't speak up then.

Biden was called out early in his campaign (as a result of the Me Too
movement) for innocently touching women on their shoulders at press
conferences. He listened and stopped doing that. How about the many
women who accused Trump of being sexually aggressive over the years?
Ever heard of Stormy Daniels? Oh wait, she was paid off and quietly
disappeared. He was implicated in letting Harvey Winestein use his
Miralago Resort to entice teenage girls to come to "parties" at his
house... Would you have let your daughter go? POTUS, Kettle, Black.

You really should stop defending Trump.

Jill

On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:48:54 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>
>> How’s that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? He’s a
>> dandy with a pedigree, I’ll give him that. What were his other
>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>
>> leo
>>
>>
>He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>guts to introduce sensible gun controls.

Yup. Trudeau is intelligent, willing to make bold choices and has a
decent relationship with other world leaders or similar decency.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 08:27:36 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>> >Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>>
>> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
>> Janet US
>
>Ok, Mrs.Democrat. Now your beloved Biden is accused of being
>a "pussy-grabber" (TM Bruce). He says it's not true.
>
>Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
>Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
>automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
>No trial necessary.

That last paragraph shows you up well for the flaming piece of sexist
shit you are.

On 2020-05-01 7:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-05-01 8:48 p.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>>
>>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>
>>> leo
>>>
>>>
>> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>
> I trust that you aren't referring to his latest knee jerk reaction to
> the guy who went on a rampage that including killing a cop and stealing
> her gun to shoot more people. The firearms he banned today have not
> posed a problem to anyone.Â* Meanwhile, he has opened up the prison doors
> and released scores of violent offenders.

https://postimg.cc/VrhpCKpy

On 2020-05-02 7:36 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:48:54 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>>
>>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>
>>> leo
>>>
>>>
>> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>
> Yup. Trudeau is intelligent, willing to make bold choices and has a
> decent relationship with other world leaders or similar decency.
>
See my reply to Dave:-)

On 2020-05-02 8:58 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 8:28:50 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

> However, it's quite unlikely that a man would get to the point of
> doing what she claims without ever having done something similar
> to anyone else. It seems unlikely he was overwhelmed by her charms
> and simply lost his senses. Her case would be more compelling if
> other credible women came forth to tell a comparable story.
>
> I don't give a shit about "me too". People have always been tried in
> the court of public opinion. Employers have the right to fire anyone
> for any reason.
>
> Would you prefer that sexual predators keep doing their thing?

The Me Too concerns be because it almost seems like too many people want
to share the spot light of victimization. They can have some sort of
sexual liaison with someone rich and powerful, or later to be rich and
powerful, and then, years later, after someone else makes a complaint,
they all come out of the woodwork to be included.

We has a Me Too issue up here a couple years ago when a CBC radio host
was accused of assaulting a woman, and then two other women made similar
accusations. They dumped him in a heart beat and he ended up facing
charges. I had not problem with that because he was such a smarmy jerk.
He was acquitted on the charges.

When the crap first hit the fan the guy was quite candid about
enjoying rough sex. He liked to get physical and hit women, but he
complained that the acts were consensual.

The cases fell apart when the three women were caught lying repeatedly.
While one claimed that she was so ****ed off she never saw him again, it
turned out that she had. They had more dates, more sex, and more rough
sex, and she sent him emails telling him how much she had enjoyed it.
That complainant and another swore that they had not discussed the
incidents and the accused with each other, but the defense checked their
internet records and found emails between the two of them where they
discussed the cases and what they had told the cops and the lawyers etc,
and there were thousands of similar emails.... thousands. Yet they had
denied discussing it at all.

The third woman claimed to have been so traumatized by the assault that
she never wanted to see the guy again, could not listen to his show, and
could not even listen to the show with a new host. She denied that she
had contacted him, denied emailing him, denied sending photos of herself
in a very revealing bikini. They had the emails and the photos and
showed them to her and she still denied it, but then admitted it, but
explained that she had been trying to lure him to a meeting where she
would get him to admit what he had done and apologize to her.

The guy was acquitted because the three alleged victims had zero
credibility. When you give testimony in court and get caught lying you
lose your credibility and any testimony you give is deemed to worthless.
This was a case where one women came forward with an accusation (later
settled privately) and then three more jumped in the bandwagon with
surprising similar stores, and each one was found to be lying.

The guy lost his job, his career and his reputation and his accusers
were all found to have been lying.

On 5/2/2020 9:38 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sat, 02 May 2020 08:27:36 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>> Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>>>
>>> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
>>> Janet US
>>
>> Ok, Mrs.Democrat. Now your beloved Biden is accused of being
>> a "pussy-grabber" (TM Bruce). He says it's not true.
>>
>> Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
>> Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
>> automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
>> No trial necessary.
>
> That last paragraph shows you up well for the flaming piece of sexist
> shit you are.
>
I, for one, choose to believe whoever is most credible and has the most
facts to back up allegations. Investigate and prove it in court (either
side, don't care which sex or what party you belong to). I want facts,
not unproven accusations flung about in the media.

Trump should stop bringing up Hunter Biden and screaming nepotism. He
has everyone in his family except for his youngest son (he's not old
enough yet) on the friggin' payroll.

Sorry, I'm a little angry. I don't find Trump to be at all credible
about anything. And despite what Gary and some others would like to
believe, I wasn't always a Democrat. I voted Republican for a long
time. I changed my mind *years* before Trump ever thought about running
for office.

My father was a die-hard Republican. I'm pretty darned sure he'd be
rolling in his grave if he could see the mockery this man has made of
the office.

Jill

On Sat, 2 May 2020 10:29:31 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/2/2020 9:38 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sat, 02 May 2020 08:27:36 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>>
>>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>>>>
>>>> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Ok, Mrs.Democrat. Now your beloved Biden is accused of being
>>> a "pussy-grabber" (TM Bruce). He says it's not true.
>>>
>>> Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
>>> Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
>>> automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
>>> No trial necessary.
>>
>> That last paragraph shows you up well for the flaming piece of sexist
>> shit you are.
>>
>I, for one, choose to believe whoever is most credible and has the most
>facts to back up allegations. Investigate and prove it in court (either
>side, don't care which sex or what party you belong to). I want facts,
>not unproven accusations flung about in the media.
>
>Trump should stop bringing up Hunter Biden and screaming nepotism. He
>has everyone in his family except for his youngest son (he's not old
>enough yet) on the friggin' payroll.
>
>Sorry, I'm a little angry. I don't find Trump to be at all credible
>about anything. And despite what Gary and some others would like to
>believe, I wasn't always a Democrat. I voted Republican for a long
>time. I changed my mind *years* before Trump ever thought about running
>for office.
>
>My father was a die-hard Republican. I'm pretty darned sure he'd be
>rolling in his grave if he could see the mockery this man has made of
>the office.
>
>Jill

Amen...

On 2020-05-02 9:36 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:48:54 -0600, graham > wrote:

>>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>
>>> leo
>>>
>>>
>> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>
> Yup. Trudeau is intelligent, willing to make bold choices and has a
> decent relationship with other world leaders or similar decency.
>

He is a smooth talker. I will give him that. He just enacted a
ridiculous gun control regulation that bans a class of firearm basically
because they look nasty. There has never been a problem with "assault
rifles" in Canada, but he and his fellow Liberals have an issue with
them because of an incident that happened more than 30 years ago.
Firearms can only be legally owned by people who are licensed. We had a
mass shooting last year that involved a person who illegally acquired a
rifle, shot a cop, stole her hand gun and then killed a bunch more
people. We have young gang members running around shooting each other
on a weekly basis, all with illegal handguns, usually smuggled into the
country, but they keep coming up with excuses fro violent crime by
marginalized youth.


The same guy fired his Attorney General because she refused to pressure
an independent prosecutor to allow a DPA for a company that was being
prosecuted on corruption charges. She told him quite clearly that it is
improper to allow a DPA in that case, that it was improper for her to
pressure the independent prosecutor and improper for him to pressure
her. So he fired her. When she went public and there was so much proof
he could no longer deny it he finally admitted that he had done wrong
and said that he took full responsibility which, in his mind, appears to
mean he can no longer deny it so he will fess up but not face consequences.

On 2020-05-02 10:23 a.m., graham wrote:
> On 2020-05-01 7:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-05-01 8:48 p.m., graham wrote:
>>> On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>>>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>>>> (in article >):
>>>>
>>>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>>>
>>>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>>>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>>
>>>> leo
>>>>
>>>>
>>> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>>> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>>
>> I trust that you aren't referring to his latest knee jerk reaction to
>> the guy who went on a rampage that including killing a cop and
>> stealing her gun to shoot more people. The firearms he banned today
>> have not posed a problem to anyone.Â* Meanwhile, he has opened up the
>> prison doors and released scores of violent offenders.
>
> https://postimg.cc/VrhpCKpy
>


Ahh... the old pseudo intellectual association of fire arms and penis
size. That ranks up there with the irony of people assuming that all
cops are racists.

Target shooting is a legitimate recreational activity. Hunting is a
legitimate recreational activity. The firearms banned can be used to
hunting and target shooting. There was absolutely no reason to ban them
and it was a knee jerk reaction to an incident that did not involve that
class of firearm. It affects only the "assault rifles" that are in the
hands of legally licensed gun owners, who have proven themselves to be
trustworthy, and it does absolutely nothing to deal the problem of hung
gang members running around shooting each other to protect their drug
business and the sense of street honour.

Carding worked well, but the people in the communities didn't like being
profiled. They eliminated carding and shootings immediately jumped 50%.
Maybe you can find a silly cartoon to try to explain that.

On 2020-05-02 10:28 a.m., graham wrote:
> On 2020-05-02 7:36 a.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 May 2020 18:48:54 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>>>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>>>> (in article >):
>>>>
>>>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>>>
>>>> Hows that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? Hes a
>>>> dandy with a pedigree, Ill give him that. What were his other
>>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>>
>>>> leo
>>>>
>>>>
>>> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>>> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>>
>> Yup. Trudeau is intelligent, willing to make bold choices and has a
>> decent relationship with other world leaders or similar decency.
>>
> See my reply to Dave:-)
Careful not to hurt your arm patting yourself on the back.

On Sat, 2 May 2020 11:47:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-05-02 10:23 a.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2020-05-01 7:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2020-05-01 8:48 p.m., graham wrote:
>>>> On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>>>>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>>>>
>>>>> How’s that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? He’s a
>>>>> dandy with a pedigree, I’ll give him that. What were his other
>>>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>>>
>>>>> leo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>>>> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>>>
>>> I trust that you aren't referring to his latest knee jerk reaction to
>>> the guy who went on a rampage that including killing a cop and
>>> stealing her gun to shoot more people. The firearms he banned today
>>> have not posed a problem to anyone.* Meanwhile, he has opened up the
>>> prison doors and released scores of violent offenders.
>>
>> https://postimg.cc/VrhpCKpy
>>
>
>
>Ahh... the old pseudo intellectual association of fire arms and penis
>size. That ranks up there with the irony of people assuming that all
>cops are racists.

Look, Davey, m'boy, you're a right wing gun toting white guy. You've
always defended assault weapon ownership and praised butch-acting
cops. It is what you are. I assume you are a racist with a small
dick, too.
>
>Target shooting is a legitimate recreational activity.

So is stamp collecting. Anybody ever shoot up a school with a stamp
scrapbook?

>Hunting is a
>legitimate recreational activity.

Hunting for food is understandable. Hunting for recreation is only
legitimate in the mind of a sick **** like you or Eric & Donnie Trump.

> The firearms banned can be used to
>hunting and target shooting. There was absolutely no reason to ban them
>and it was a knee jerk reaction to an incident that did not involve that
>class of firearm. It affects only the "assault rifles" that are in the
>hands of legally licensed gun owners, who have proven themselves to be
>trustworthy, and it does absolutely nothing to deal the problem of hung
>gang members running around shooting each other to protect their drug
>business and the sense of street honour.

Yeah...all those drug dealers with assault weapons who drive around
with the black mamas in pink Cadillacs collecting welfare right? I
mean, I am sure that is what you really have in mind.
>

On Sat, 02 May 2020 12:04:50 -0400, Boron Elgar
> wrote:

>On Sat, 2 May 2020 11:47:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2020-05-02 10:23 a.m., graham wrote:
>>> On 2020-05-01 7:29 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-05-01 8:48 p.m., graham wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-04-30 11:41 p.m., Leo wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020 Apr 30, , graham wrote
>>>>>> (in article >):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tell us, what is there to admire in this moronic POTUS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How’s that sap that runs your tiny population country doing? He’s a
>>>>>> dandy with a pedigree, I’ll give him that. What were his other
>>>>>> qualifications? Did you vote for him? If so, why?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> leo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> He's widely respected by other world leaders and at least he has the
>>>>> guts to introduce sensible gun controls.
>>>>
>>>> I trust that you aren't referring to his latest knee jerk reaction to
>>>> the guy who went on a rampage that including killing a cop and
>>>> stealing her gun to shoot more people. The firearms he banned today
>>>> have not posed a problem to anyone.* Meanwhile, he has opened up the
>>>> prison doors and released scores of violent offenders.
>>>
>>> https://postimg.cc/VrhpCKpy
>>>
>>
>>
>>Ahh... the old pseudo intellectual association of fire arms and penis
>>size. That ranks up there with the irony of people assuming that all
>>cops are racists.
>
>Look, Davey, m'boy, you're a right wing gun toting white guy. You've
>always defended assault weapon ownership and praised butch-acting
>cops. It is what you are. I assume you are a racist with a small
>dick, too.
>>
>>Target shooting is a legitimate recreational activity.
>
>So is stamp collecting. Anybody ever shoot up a school with a stamp
>scrapbook?
>
>>Hunting is a
>>legitimate recreational activity.
>
>Hunting for food is understandable. Hunting for recreation is only
>legitimate in the mind of a sick **** like you or Eric & Donnie Trump.
>
>> The firearms banned can be used to
>>hunting and target shooting. There was absolutely no reason to ban them
>>and it was a knee jerk reaction to an incident that did not involve that
>>class of firearm. It affects only the "assault rifles" that are in the
>>hands of legally licensed gun owners, who have proven themselves to be
>>trustworthy, and it does absolutely nothing to deal the problem of hung
>>gang members running around shooting each other to protect their drug
>>business and the sense of street honour.
>
>Yeah...all those drug dealers with assault weapons who drive around
>with the black mamas in pink Cadillacs collecting welfare right? I
>mean, I am sure that is what you really have in mind.
>>

Oh...don't forget to go to church Sunday morning.

On 2020-05-02 12:04 p.m., Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Sat, 2 May 2020 11:47:54 -0400, Dave Smith

>> Ahh... the old pseudo intellectual association of fire arms and penis
>> size. That ranks up there with the irony of people assuming that all
>> cops are racists.
>
> Look, Davey, m'boy, you're a right wing gun toting white guy. You've
> always defended assault weapon ownership and praised butch-acting
> cops. It is what you are. I assume you are a racist with a small
> dick, too.

All dicks probably feel small in your gaping vagina.

>>
>> Target shooting is a legitimate recreational activity.
>
> So is stamp collecting. Anybody ever shoot up a school with a stamp
> scrapbook?
>
>> Hunting is a
>> legitimate recreational activity.
>
> Hunting for food is understandable. Hunting for recreation is only
> legitimate in the mind of a sick **** like you or Eric & Donnie Trump.
>
>> The firearms banned can be used to
>> hunting and target shooting. There was absolutely no reason to ban them
>> and it was a knee jerk reaction to an incident that did not involve that
>> class of firearm. It affects only the "assault rifles" that are in the
>> hands of legally licensed gun owners, who have proven themselves to be
>> trustworthy, and it does absolutely nothing to deal the problem of hung
>> gang members running around shooting each other to protect their drug
>> business and the sense of street honour.
>
> Yeah...all those drug dealers with assault weapons who drive around
> with the black mamas in pink Cadillacs collecting welfare right? I
> mean, I am sure that is what you really have in mind.

That is an interesting perspective you have on the people whoa re
committing gun crimes. Is there some reality that you are trying to
project on me while you remain in denial?

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 12:04:54 PM UTC-4, Boron Elgar wrote:

> Look, Davey, m'boy, you're a right wing gun toting white guy. You've
> always defended assault weapon ownership

Could you do me a solid and describe what you mean by "assault weapon"?
Form, function, caliber, whatever you think will help me to understand
which weapons you are talking about.

Thanks,

Cindy Hamilton

Boring Elgar wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
> >Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
> >automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
> >No trial necessary.
>
> That last paragraph shows you up well for the flaming piece of sexist
> shit you are.

And your response causes you to lose face and shows
just how biased you are. So you believe
women no matter what they claim? It must be true?
Every single claim?

I have no doubt that many claims are true but not so
many that we have seen in the past few years.
I suspect that many are also just vindictive women
finally going after revenge for being jilted.

Ever heard of "copy cat" crimes?

Maybe it's time for an "US TOO" rampage.
Men claiming how some women scorned have a life-long
issue and hatred after giving up their goodies
in hopes of a life-long relationship. Fair is fair right?

Boring Elgar wrote to Dave:
> Oh...don't forget to go to church Sunday morning.

Do you have issues with people that go to church too?
Life is not all about YOU and what you believe.

On Sat, 02 May 2020 08:27:36 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>> >Oddly enough, I'm okay with el vice-presidente not wearing a mask. That gringo is scary enough without a mask.
>>
>> true enough, but at least your wife and daughters are safe
>> Janet US
>
>Ok, Mrs.Democrat. Now your beloved Biden is accused of being
>a "pussy-grabber" (TM Bruce). He says it's not true.
>
>Do you believe him or do you believe the woman?
>Remember - with this "Me Too" movement, the men are
>automatically considered guilty and lose their jobs.
>No trial necessary.

what I meant by that comment was that Pence righteously will not be
alone with any female because of religious beliefs. However,
distancing does not keep him from 'sinning in his mind' or in the
shower.

On Sat, 2 May 2020 11:47:54 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

snip
>
>Target shooting is a legitimate recreational activity. Hunting is a
>legitimate recreational activity. The firearms banned can be used to
>hunting and target shooting. There was absolutely no reason to ban them
>and it was a knee jerk reaction to an incident that did not involve that
>class of firearm. It affects only the "assault rifles" that are in the
>hands of legally licensed gun owners, who have proven themselves to be
>trustworthy, and it does absolutely nothing to deal the problem of hung
>gang members running around shooting each other to protect their drug
>business and the sense of street honour.

snip
I'll bet you I could hit a target if I had a gun with 30 rounds of
auto-fire. . . even if the target was moving.
Janet US