On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-06-01 7:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 12:09:27 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-06-01 4:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>
> >>> That's pretty much the Western concept of looking out for number
> >>> one. "Saving face" means that if the other guy loses face, so do
> >>> you. Saving face is a non-zero-sum game.
> >>>
> >> Oh bullshit. "Saving face" is looking out for number one.
> >
> > The concept of saving face is one that's so far out of most
> > Westerners experience that they'll never be able to figure it out.
> > The thing that I'll never understand is why Westerners will comment
> > on things that the have no knowledge of. Things like saving face and
> > the notion that cashiers in supermarkets have to memorize random
> > codes for produce. It will forever remain a mystery to me.
> >
>
> No. I think we have figured it out. It is the concept of allowing
> someone to exit a situation with dignity in a way that makes it look
> like they did nothing wrong. It also reflects one's social rank. In the
> case of an low level employee who gets caught stealing stationary the
> person faces immediate dismissal. He is just a lowly peon so he is
> dismissed with cause and everyone knows that he was fired for stealing
> from the company. If it is a high level employee who gets caught
> embezzling thousands and thousands of dollars he is given the option to
> resign and there is no threat of the police being called in or lawsuits
> for wrongful dismissal. He is given the chance to resign so it looks
> like it was his decision to leave.

No that's not it at all.

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 16:12:06 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020 Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Then you might not want the Sicilian pizza I cooked tonight. It was
>>>> a PITA, but pretty awesome. From scratch, not from a box <hrmpf>.
>>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/59pQFvjH/Sicilian-Pizza-2.jpg
>>>
>> Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Yum!
>
> From an Italian perspective that's an overload of toppings, but that's
> how we know the Sqwertz Curmudgeon.
>

How's it smell Fruce?

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 16:24:31 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 5:09:27 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh bullshit. "Saving face" is looking out for number one.
>>>
>> "Saving face" just means 'feed my ego.'
>
> When you (as in you, Jo-Jo) are wrong about something and you won't
> admit it, isn't that about saving face?
>

Or maybe she's just luring you to within gass range.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-06-01 7:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 12:09:27 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-06-01 4:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>>> That's pretty much the Western concept of looking out for number
>>>>> one. "Saving face" means that if the other guy loses face, so do
>>>>> you. Saving face is a non-zero-sum game.
>>>>>
>>>> Oh bullshit. "Saving face" is looking out for number one.
>>>
>>> The concept of saving face is one that's so far out of most
>>> Westerners experience that they'll never be able to figure it out.
>>> The thing that I'll never understand is why Westerners will comment
>>> on things that the have no knowledge of. Things like saving face and
>>> the notion that cashiers in supermarkets have to memorize random
>>> codes for produce. It will forever remain a mystery to me.
>>>
>>
>> No. I think we have figured it out. It is the concept of allowing
>> someone to exit a situation with dignity in a way that makes it look
>> like they did nothing wrong. It also reflects one's social rank. In the
>> case of an low level employee who gets caught stealing stationary the
>> person faces immediate dismissal. He is just a lowly peon so he is
>> dismissed with cause and everyone knows that he was fired for stealing
>> from the company. If it is a high level employee who gets caught
>> embezzling thousands and thousands of dollars he is given the option to
>> resign and there is no threat of the police being called in or lawsuits
>> for wrongful dismissal. He is given the chance to resign so it looks
>> like it was his decision to leave.
>
> No that's not it at all.
>

So, put it in terms of someone selling horribly overpriced hearing
aids to financially gouge old people. That context will illustrate
the principle better.

Then everyone can understand better.

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:58:01 PM UTC-10, Hank Rogers wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-06-01 7:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >>> On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 12:09:27 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>> On 2020-06-01 4:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> That's pretty much the Western concept of looking out for number
> >>>>> one. "Saving face" means that if the other guy loses face, so do
> >>>>> you. Saving face is a non-zero-sum game.
> >>>>>
> >>>> Oh bullshit. "Saving face" is looking out for number one.
> >>>
> >>> The concept of saving face is one that's so far out of most
> >>> Westerners experience that they'll never be able to figure it out.
> >>> The thing that I'll never understand is why Westerners will comment
> >>> on things that the have no knowledge of. Things like saving face and
> >>> the notion that cashiers in supermarkets have to memorize random
> >>> codes for produce. It will forever remain a mystery to me.
> >>>
> >>
> >> No. I think we have figured it out. It is the concept of allowing
> >> someone to exit a situation with dignity in a way that makes it look
> >> like they did nothing wrong. It also reflects one's social rank. In the
> >> case of an low level employee who gets caught stealing stationary the
> >> person faces immediate dismissal. He is just a lowly peon so he is
> >> dismissed with cause and everyone knows that he was fired for stealing
> >> from the company. If it is a high level employee who gets caught
> >> embezzling thousands and thousands of dollars he is given the option to
> >> resign and there is no threat of the police being called in or lawsuits
> >> for wrongful dismissal. He is given the chance to resign so it looks
> >> like it was his decision to leave.
> >
> > No that's not it at all.
> >
>
> So, put it in terms of someone selling horribly overpriced hearing
> aids to financially gouge old people. That context will illustrate
> the principle better.
>
> Then everyone can understand better.

You're sniffing up the wrong ass, squirts.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:34:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-06-01 7:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> > On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 12:09:27 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> On 2020-06-01 4:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> >>> That's pretty much the Western concept of looking out for number
>> >>> one. "Saving face" means that if the other guy loses face, so do
>> >>> you. Saving face is a non-zero-sum game.
>> >>>
>> >> Oh bullshit. "Saving face" is looking out for number one.
>> >
>> > The concept of saving face is one that's so far out of most
>> > Westerners experience that they'll never be able to figure it out.
>> > The thing that I'll never understand is why Westerners will comment
>> > on things that the have no knowledge of. Things like saving face and
>> > the notion that cashiers in supermarkets have to memorize random
>> > codes for produce. It will forever remain a mystery to me.
>> >
>>
>> No. I think we have figured it out. It is the concept of allowing
>> someone to exit a situation with dignity in a way that makes it look
>> like they did nothing wrong. It also reflects one's social rank. In the
>> case of an low level employee who gets caught stealing stationary the
>> person faces immediate dismissal. He is just a lowly peon so he is
>> dismissed with cause and everyone knows that he was fired for stealing
>> from the company. If it is a high level employee who gets caught
>> embezzling thousands and thousands of dollars he is given the option to
>> resign and there is no threat of the police being called in or lawsuits
>> for wrongful dismissal. He is given the chance to resign so it looks
>> like it was his decision to leave.
>
>No that's not it at all.

Do crude Occidentals like us have to humbly accept that this matter is
beyond our grasp? And if so, do we lose face?

On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 3:15:50 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:34:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2020-06-01 7:55 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >> > On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 12:09:27 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >> On 2020-06-01 4:53 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> >>> That's pretty much the Western concept of looking out for number
> >> >>> one. "Saving face" means that if the other guy loses face, so do
> >> >>> you. Saving face is a non-zero-sum game.
> >> >>>
> >> >> Oh bullshit. "Saving face" is looking out for number one.
> >> >
> >> > The concept of saving face is one that's so far out of most
> >> > Westerners experience that they'll never be able to figure it out.
> >> > The thing that I'll never understand is why Westerners will comment
> >> > on things that the have no knowledge of. Things like saving face and
> >> > the notion that cashiers in supermarkets have to memorize random
> >> > codes for produce. It will forever remain a mystery to me.
> >> >
> >>
> >> No. I think we have figured it out. It is the concept of allowing
> >> someone to exit a situation with dignity in a way that makes it look
> >> like they did nothing wrong. It also reflects one's social rank. In the
> >> case of an low level employee who gets caught stealing stationary the
> >> person faces immediate dismissal. He is just a lowly peon so he is
> >> dismissed with cause and everyone knows that he was fired for stealing
> >> from the company. If it is a high level employee who gets caught
> >> embezzling thousands and thousands of dollars he is given the option to
> >> resign and there is no threat of the police being called in or lawsuits
> >> for wrongful dismissal. He is given the chance to resign so it looks
> >> like it was his decision to leave.
> >
> >No that's not it at all.
>
> Do crude Occidentals like us have to humbly accept that this matter is
> beyond our grasp? And if so, do we lose face?

That would be correct - on both counts.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 3:15:50 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:34:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 2:21:09 PM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:

>> >> No. I think we have figured it out. It is the concept of allowing
>> >> someone to exit a situation with dignity in a way that makes it look
>> >> like they did nothing wrong. It also reflects one's social rank. In the
>> >> case of an low level employee who gets caught stealing stationary the
>> >> person faces immediate dismissal. He is just a lowly peon so he is
>> >> dismissed with cause and everyone knows that he was fired for stealing
>> >> from the company. If it is a high level employee who gets caught
>> >> embezzling thousands and thousands of dollars he is given the option to
>> >> resign and there is no threat of the police being called in or lawsuits
>> >> for wrongful dismissal. He is given the chance to resign so it looks
>> >> like it was his decision to leave.
>> >
>> >No that's not it at all.
>>
>> Do crude Occidentals like us have to humbly accept that this matter is
>> beyond our grasp? And if so, do we lose face?
>
>That would be correct - on both counts.

Damn, I knew it!

On 6/1/2020 7:18 PM, wrote:
> On Monday, June 1, 2020 at 1:07:07 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 May 2020 20:16:48 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I really like the thin crispy crust and the spinach. I'm not a fan of
>>> thick/pan pizzas.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> Find some 10-14 brown rice tortilla, pizza sauce of your choosing,
>> toppings of your choosing, cheese of your choosing and make your own
>> damn pizza that will not taste like cardboard.
>>
>> Or because I know you are hard headed and will not eat a brown rice
>> tortilla because it is gluten free then just get a damn flour tortilla
>> and use that but it will not be as firm as the brown rice one.
>>
> Why not let everyone choose what they like to eat? Maybe we like the
> Newman's Own brand. Maybe it does not taste like cardboard. Maybe we
> don't care if it's gluten-free or not. Maybe we don't care to use a
> tortilla to make a pizza. I'm sure none of this ever crossed your mind.
>
When did I ever say I won't eat brown rice? I don't give a shit about
gluten free. I eat corn and flour tortillas and have no intention of
buying brown rice tortillas. Nor do I care to make pizza out of tortillas.

Jill

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > I only use the mozzarella cheese but after cooking and time to
> > eat, I'll sprinkle on some dry parmesan/romano blend. The
> > dry stuff is stronger and more concentrated in flavor.
>
> But harsh. Stronger and more concentrated are not always desirable.

Just a matter of preference. I like it strong. Not enough to
overwhelm the dish but I do want a good flavor presence.

I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
using most of the wedge just for one plate.

Since then, I use the dried. Couple of nice shakes does it.

> I will never forget a Caesar salad I had at the Minneapolis airport. It
> had so much dry parmesan on it that it was like eating sand.

That's funny. I've had *real* sand in my food before...eating
at the beach on a windy day. That's very annoying.

Anyway, I've got my 'underpants-on-my-head' and will be
heading to the grocery store soon. Last time there was
May 15. (18 days?)

Gary wrote:
>
> Anyway, I've got my 'underpants-on-my-head' and will be
> heading to the grocery store soon. Last time there was
> May 15. (18 days?)

My first 3 posts today were written around 7:30am but I
just sent them.

This is a 3 hour later followup.

So I went to the grocery store. Just a few normal replacement
items. No big trip even after 18 days. I might go again on
Thursday for a bit more. Or maybe not.

Anyway, I was surprised that there was *still* no toilet
paper or paper towels. This is getting a bit old and weird.
I do have plenty of TP from the last trip but I am running
low on paper towels. No big deal but certainly odd.

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > I only use the mozzarella cheese but after cooking and time to
> > > eat, I'll sprinkle on some dry parmesan/romano blend. The
> > > dry stuff is stronger and more concentrated in flavor.
> >
> > But harsh. Stronger and more concentrated are not always desirable.
>
> Just a matter of preference. I like it strong. Not enough to
> overwhelm the dish but I do want a good flavor presence.
>
> I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
> I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
> enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
> using most of the wedge just for one plate.

Goodness. Your tastebuds must be set on "1". I would find
that much parm overwhelming.

I like bold flavors (pepperoni, chiles, fish sauce, wasabi,
curry, etc.), but most of a wedge of parm is extreme.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 08:33:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > Gary wrote:
>> > > I only use the mozzarella cheese but after cooking and time to
>> > > eat, I'll sprinkle on some dry parmesan/romano blend. The
>> > > dry stuff is stronger and more concentrated in flavor.
>> >
>> > But harsh. Stronger and more concentrated are not always desirable.
>>
>> Just a matter of preference. I like it strong. Not enough to
>> overwhelm the dish but I do want a good flavor presence.
>>
>> I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
>> I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
>> enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
>> using most of the wedge just for one plate.
>
>Goodness. Your tastebuds must be set on "1". I would find
>that much parm overwhelming.
>
>I like bold flavors (pepperoni, chiles, fish sauce, wasabi,
>curry, etc.), but most of a wedge of parm is extreme.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

TIAD.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
> > I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
> > enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
> > using most of the wedge just for one plate.
>
> Goodness. Your tastebuds must be set on "1". I would find
> that much parm overwhelming.
>
> I like bold flavors (pepperoni, chiles, fish sauce, wasabi,
> curry, etc.), but most of a wedge of parm is extreme.

Well, it was the cheapest wedge they had. That might have
made a difference. I do like bold flavors though.

I also
like lots of heat in many dishes up until it kills your
taste buds with mouth on fire.

On 6/2/2020 10:38 AM, Gary wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, I've got my 'underpants-on-my-head' and will be
>> heading to the grocery store soon. Last time there was
>> May 15. (18 days?)
>
> My first 3 posts today were written around 7:30am but I
> just sent them.
>
> This is a 3 hour later followup.
>
> So I went to the grocery store. Just a few normal replacement
> items. No big trip even after 18 days. I might go again on
> Thursday for a bit more. Or maybe not.
>
> Anyway, I was surprised that there was *still* no toilet
> paper or paper towels. This is getting a bit old and weird.
> I do have plenty of TP from the last trip but I am running
> low on paper towels. No big deal but certainly odd.
>
It still amazes me. I was able to order a 12 roll pack of the tightly
wrapped Scott brand toilet paper from Walgreens. (It goes a lot farther
than the soft, loosely wrapped on the roll cushy stuff.) Got an email
from Walgreens saying everything in my order had shipped except the TP,
which is pending. The web site didn't indicate they were out of stock
so I'm guessing it is coming from a different distribution center.

Meanwhile, I found TP at (of all places) the Exxon convenience store
when I went to put gas in my car. I guess the toilet paper hoarders
didn't think to look there. I bought a four-roll pack and they had
more. Walgreens will get their shit together (pardon the pun) soon
enough and send me what I ordered.

We're living in weird times.

Jill

On Tue, 02 Jun 2020 11:47:28 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
>> > I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
>> > enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
>> > using most of the wedge just for one plate.
>>
>> Goodness. Your tastebuds must be set on "1". I would find
>> that much parm overwhelming.
>>
>> I like bold flavors (pepperoni, chiles, fish sauce, wasabi,
>> curry, etc.), but most of a wedge of parm is extreme.
>
>Well, it was the cheapest wedge they had.

It's been my experience that when people say they grated a "wedge" but
never show the "wedge" the truth is they dumped some sawdust from the
green can... especially when they are talking "cheapest".
Most Italian restaurants and most pizza parlors that keep a
bowl/shaker of grated cheese on the table refill it from the green
can, only they buy that sawdust in bulk.
We don't use much grated chese... occasionally I'll buy a small wedge
and grate it myself as needed, I have a small ss grater for that
purpose, but mostly we buy store brand grated parm from their deli,
not nearly as good as the pricy cheese we grate ourselves but a
thousand times better than the sawdust in the green can that Gary
uses. Tops sells their store brand grated cheese at their deli or
they will grate any wedge you pick. Like I said we don't use much
grated cheese, mostly we'll hand grate some onto a garden salad. For
most people's pasta dishes green can sawdust is plenty good for their
jarred sauce. There's abslutely no reason to grate pricy cheese with
jarred sauce. I draw the line at jarred sauce, never buy it...
homemade sauce is easy and a zillion times better than jarred. When
I'm in the mood I'll fill my 16 qt pot, starts with sauteing a couple
three pounds of inexpensive shoulder pork chops on sale until tender
enough to pull out the bones. Onions/garlic to suit, 'talian herbs,
EVOO, some dago red. It's ready when it's time for bocce and your
guinea stinker cee gar... yes I used to smoke those shriveled black
stogies. The 14,15 year old Italian girls would fulfill my wildest
dreams from the aroma of guinea stinkers and a charlotte russe... the
Jewish gals would do almost anything after a date at the Claridge
theater and a hunk of halavah... not anything but whatever I wanted to
do with their young opulent bosoms. Back then the young gals knew to
keep their legs closed... everything above their waist was free range.
Often their moms tended to their daughter's boyfriends.

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 9:41:15 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> This is a 3 hour later followup.
>
> So I went to the grocery store.
>
> Anyway, I was surprised that there was *still* no toilet
> paper or paper towels. This is getting a bit old and weird.
> I do have plenty of TP from the last trip but I am running
> low on paper towels. No big deal but certainly odd.
>
While you are out, does it ever occur to you to stop in at another grocery
store within a reasonable distance? You might be surprised at what they
have in stock.

I was in Walmart yesterday and picked up a 12-pack of their house brand of
Charmin Soft. I didn't need it as I'd also picked up a 12-pack this past
Friday of Kroger's house brand of Charmin Soft. I haven't needed any of
these packages I've been buying but I have the storage space so why not?

I was not caught in the last THERE'S NO TOILET PAPER TO FOUND ANYWHERE
and I plan on not being caught if we have a second wave of Covid-19.

On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 5:50:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
> > > I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
> > > enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
> > > using most of the wedge just for one plate.
> >
> > Goodness. Your tastebuds must be set on "1". I would find
> > that much parm overwhelming.
> >
> > I like bold flavors (pepperoni, chiles, fish sauce, wasabi,
> > curry, etc.), but most of a wedge of parm is extreme.
>
> Well, it was the cheapest wedge they had. That might have
> made a difference. I do like bold flavors though.
>
> I also
> like lots of heat in many dishes up until it kills your
> taste buds with mouth on fire.

My son made Parmesan chicken last night. He grated a large wedge of cheese. I have no idea what that was. That chicken was covered with a thick layer of gooey cheese. That was goofy and excessive.

My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 5:50:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary wrote:
> > > > I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
> > > > I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
> > > > enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
> > > > using most of the wedge just for one plate.
> > >
> > > Goodness. Your tastebuds must be set on "1". I would find
> > > that much parm overwhelming.
> > >
> > > I like bold flavors (pepperoni, chiles, fish sauce, wasabi,
> > > curry, etc.), but most of a wedge of parm is extreme.
> >
> > Well, it was the cheapest wedge they had. That might have
> > made a difference. I do like bold flavors though.
> >
> > I also
> > like lots of heat in many dishes up until it kills your
> > taste buds with mouth on fire.
>
> My son made Parmesan chicken last night. He grated a large wedge of cheese. I have no idea what that was. That chicken was covered with a thick layer of gooey cheese. That was goofy and excessive.

If it was gooey, it wasn't parmesan. Parmesan for flavor and something
like mozzarella for goo.

> My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP

That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.

Cindy Hamilton

" wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > I do have plenty of TP from the last trip but I am running
> > low on paper towels. No big deal but certainly odd.
> >
> While you are out, does it ever occur to you to stop in at another grocery
> store within a reasonable distance?

Never!
1) read what I said above..."No big deal"
2) I rarely multi shop stores in one outing.
If I want to go to another store, it's a
separate trip on another day.

I do enjoy early shopping but it's
an 'in for what I want then get the hell out' thing.

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 12:13:22 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 at 5:50:08 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary wrote:
> > > > > I used a small wedge of parmesan once (not parm-reg though)
> > > > > I grated a bit on spaghetti with red sauce and it wasn't
> > > > > enough, so I added some more. Not there yet. I ended up
> > > > > using most of the wedge just for one plate.
> > > >
> > > > Goodness. Your tastebuds must be set on "1". I would find
> > > > that much parm overwhelming.
> > > >
> > > > I like bold flavors (pepperoni, chiles, fish sauce, wasabi,
> > > > curry, etc.), but most of a wedge of parm is extreme.
> > >
> > > Well, it was the cheapest wedge they had. That might have
> > > made a difference. I do like bold flavors though.
> > >
> > > I also
> > > like lots of heat in many dishes up until it kills your
> > > taste buds with mouth on fire.
> >
> > My son made Parmesan chicken last night. He grated a large wedge of cheese. I have no idea what that was. That chicken was covered with a thick layer of gooey cheese. That was goofy and excessive.
>
> If it was gooey, it wasn't parmesan. Parmesan for flavor and something
> like mozzarella for goo.
>
> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
>
> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Indeed it was not Parmesan. It was some sort of semi-hard cheese with some kind of herbal coating on it. I plan to make an omelet with it this morning.

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
>
> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
tomatoes are not helping, either.

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 7:38:44 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> " wrote:
> >
> > Gary wrote:
> > > I do have plenty of TP from the last trip but I am running
> > > low on paper towels. No big deal but certainly odd.
> > >
> > While you are out, does it ever occur to you to stop in at another grocery
> > store within a reasonable distance?
>
> Never!
> 1) read what I said above..."No big deal"
> 2) I rarely multi shop stores in one outing.
> If I want to go to another store, it's a
> separate trip on another day.
>
> I do enjoy early shopping but it's
> an 'in for what I want then get the hell out' thing.
>
Poor baby, maybe you should broaden your horizons and you might get a
shock at what's available at other stores. Early in the morning no less.

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:56:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
> > >
> > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
> >
> > That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
> > but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
> tomatoes are not helping, either.

The tomatoes here are not very good. OTOH, the mangoes and avocados are totally awesome so there's that.

On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 08:36:09 -0400, Gary > wrote:

" wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> > I do have plenty of TP from the last trip but I am running
>> > low on paper towels. No big deal but certainly odd.
>> >
>> While you are out, does it ever occur to you to stop in at another grocery
>> store within a reasonable distance?
>
>Never!
>1) read what I said above..."No big deal"
>2) I rarely multi shop stores in one outing.
> If I want to go to another store, it's a
> separate trip on another day.
>
>I do enjoy early shopping but it's
>an 'in for what I want then get the hell out' thing.

But Gary, that's no way to pick up women.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
>>
>> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
>> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>tomatoes are not helping, either.

The kimchi looks good though.

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
> >> >
> >> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
> >>
> >> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
> >> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
> >tomatoes are not helping, either.
>
> The kimchi looks good though.

That's the mild Hawaiian kim chee. It's not bad. The hard-core Korean stuff is also good, although you might have to keep the stuff in your garage.

https://photos.bigoven.com/recipe/he...hee-301afb.jpg

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 2:37:52 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
> > >> >
> > >> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
> > >>
> > >> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
> > >> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Hamilton
> > >>
> > >I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
> > >tomatoes are not helping, either.
> >
> > The kimchi looks good though.
>
> That's the mild Hawaiian kim chee. It's not bad. The hard-core Korean stuff is also good, although you might have to keep the stuff in your garage.
>
> https://photos.bigoven.com/recipe/he...hee-301afb.jpg

Oh, yeah. That's the good stuff.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:56:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
>> > >
>> > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
>> >
>> > That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
>> > but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
>> >
>> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >
>> I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>> tomatoes are not helping, either.
>
>The tomatoes here are not very good. OTOH, the mangoes and avocados are totally awesome so there's that.

Mangos and avocados FTW.

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:04:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:56:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
> >> > >
> >> > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
> >> >
> >> > That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
> >> > but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
> >> >
> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >
> >> I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
> >> tomatoes are not helping, either.
> >
> >The tomatoes here are not very good. OTOH, the mangoes and avocados are totally awesome so there's that.
>
> Mangos and avocados FTW.

I suppose. I don't like mangos; avocados have always just been tasteless
and greasy (but perhaps I've never tasted an awesome avocado). I'd rather
have exceptionally good tomatoes.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:37:48 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 8:20:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
>> >> >
>> >> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
>> >>
>> >> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
>> >> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
>> >>
>> >> Cindy Hamilton
>> >>
>> >I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>> >tomatoes are not helping, either.
>>
>> The kimchi looks good though.
>
>That's the mild Hawaiian kim chee. It's not bad. The hard-core Korean stuff is also good, although you might have to keep the stuff in your garage.
>
>https://photos.bigoven.com/recipe/he...hee-301afb.jpg

What we can get here is Korean. It's good but you don't want to be the
only one who didn't eat it.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 12:13:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:04:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:56:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>> >> tomatoes are not helping, either.
>> >
>> >The tomatoes here are not very good. OTOH, the mangoes and avocados are totally awesome so there's that.
>>
>> Mangos and avocados FTW.
>
>I suppose. I don't like mangos; avocados have always just been tasteless
>and greasy (but perhaps I've never tasted an awesome avocado). I'd rather
>have exceptionally good tomatoes.

We have a fuerte avocado tree. In a good year it produces more
avocados than we can eat, but only one in every 2 or 3 years is a good
year. They taste great, better than supermarket avocados (which are
probably hass avocados). But it's still a subtle flavour. Great with
an egg and a bit of salt, though.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
>>
>> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
>> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>tomatoes are not helping, either.

Of everything else the tomatoes looked the most edible... WTF are
those brown lumps? I'd have preferred a lot more lettuce with those
tomatoes, perhaps some other veggies too... hold those turds.

On 2020-06-03 1:27 p.m., Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 12:13:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:04:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:56:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>>>>> tomatoes are not helping, either.
>>>>
>>>> The tomatoes here are not very good. OTOH, the mangoes and avocados are totally awesome so there's that.
>>>
>>> Mangos and avocados FTW.
>>
>> I suppose. I don't like mangos; avocados have always just been tasteless
>> and greasy (but perhaps I've never tasted an awesome avocado). I'd rather
>> have exceptionally good tomatoes.
>
> We have a fuerte avocado tree. In a good year it produces more
> avocados than we can eat, but only one in every 2 or 3 years is a good
> year. They taste great, better than supermarket avocados (which are
> probably hass avocados). But it's still a subtle flavour. Great with
> an egg and a bit of salt, though.
>
and with strawberries!

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 14:16:27 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2020-06-03 1:27 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 12:13:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:04:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:56:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>>>>>> tomatoes are not helping, either.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tomatoes here are not very good. OTOH, the mangoes and avocados are totally awesome so there's that.
>>>>
>>>> Mangos and avocados FTW.
>>>
>>> I suppose. I don't like mangos; avocados have always just been tasteless
>>> and greasy (but perhaps I've never tasted an awesome avocado). I'd rather
>>> have exceptionally good tomatoes.
>>
>> We have a fuerte avocado tree. In a good year it produces more
>> avocados than we can eat, but only one in every 2 or 3 years is a good
>> year. They taste great, better than supermarket avocados (which are
>> probably hass avocados). But it's still a subtle flavour. Great with
>> an egg and a bit of salt, though.
>>
>and with strawberries!

I should try that.

On 2020-06-03 2:18 p.m., Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 14:16:27 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2020-06-03 1:27 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 12:13:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 3:04:19 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 11:18:32 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 6:56:21 AM UTC-10, wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
>>>>>>> tomatoes are not helping, either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The tomatoes here are not very good. OTOH, the mangoes and avocados are totally awesome so there's that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mangos and avocados FTW.
>>>>
>>>> I suppose. I don't like mangos; avocados have always just been tasteless
>>>> and greasy (but perhaps I've never tasted an awesome avocado). I'd rather
>>>> have exceptionally good tomatoes.
>>>
>>> We have a fuerte avocado tree. In a good year it produces more
>>> avocados than we can eat, but only one in every 2 or 3 years is a good
>>> year. They taste great, better than supermarket avocados (which are
>>> probably hass avocados). But it's still a subtle flavour. Great with
>>> an egg and a bit of salt, though.
>>>
>> and with strawberries!
>
> I should try that.
>
Mix chopped strawberries with chopped avocado "meat". Delicious! It used
to be a staple on the lunch buffet table in the Chamber of Commerce
dining room here.

On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 14:35:09 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2020-06-03 2:18 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 14:16:27 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020-06-03 1:27 p.m., Bruce wrote:

>>>> We have a fuerte avocado tree. In a good year it produces more
>>>> avocados than we can eat, but only one in every 2 or 3 years is a good
>>>> year. They taste great, better than supermarket avocados (which are
>>>> probably hass avocados). But it's still a subtle flavour. Great with
>>>> an egg and a bit of salt, though.
>>>>
>>> and with strawberries!
>>
>> I should try that.
>>
>Mix chopped strawberries with chopped avocado "meat". Delicious! It used
>to be a staple on the lunch buffet table in the Chamber of Commerce
>dining room here.

Do you add anything? Sugar, salt or pepper?

On 2020-06-03 2:42 p.m., Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 14:35:09 -0600, graham > wrote:
>
>> On 2020-06-03 2:18 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 14:16:27 -0600, graham > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2020-06-03 1:27 p.m., Bruce wrote:
>
>>>>> We have a fuerte avocado tree. In a good year it produces more
>>>>> avocados than we can eat, but only one in every 2 or 3 years is a good
>>>>> year. They taste great, better than supermarket avocados (which are
>>>>> probably hass avocados). But it's still a subtle flavour. Great with
>>>>> an egg and a bit of salt, though.
>>>>>
>>>> and with strawberries!
>>>
>>> I should try that.
>>>
>> Mix chopped strawberries with chopped avocado "meat". Delicious! It used
>> to be a staple on the lunch buffet table in the Chamber of Commerce
>> dining room here.
>
> Do you add anything? Sugar, salt or pepper?
>
I'm not sure. Possibly small amounts of s&p but the acid from the
strawberries cuts through the oil of the avocado.
It's worth a try since you probably have both at hand.

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 9:42:12 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:13:22 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 5:26:38 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >>
> >> > My wife's dinner for tonight at work is hamburger with Korean black bean noodles. The noodles are thick and chewy - oh boy!
> >> >
> >> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...p7cJLca_De0CiP
> >>
> >> That looked very good. I wish I could have seen the noodles better,
> >> but I recognize it wasn't boxed up for food critique.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >>
> >I hope she enjoyed it, but it looks awful to me. The unripened hothouse
> >tomatoes are not helping, either.
>
> Of everything else the tomatoes looked the most edible... WTF are
> those brown lumps? I'd have preferred a lot more lettuce with those
> tomatoes, perhaps some other veggies too... hold those turds.

That's okay grandpa, you don't want to be concerning yourself with the foods we eat here on the rock. My guess is that it would cause your corneas to fly off at the first taste. Don't even look at my pictures - your health is important to me and I don't want to be responsible for making you go blind.. That would be evil.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >I do enjoy early shopping but it's
> >an 'in for what I want then get the hell out' thing.
>
> But Gary, that's no way to pick up women.

To shop for women, you go on either a Friday or Saturday
after 7pm.