On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> >> >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> >> >>
> >> >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >>
> >> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >
> >Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society. It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>
> I don't fear corn and I don't associate it with lower socio-economic.
> I just never realised it was such a big deal in the US. Spam is cheap
> meat. I don't like that. Aloha shoyu is nasty and unhealthy, but I
> don't know if it's lower socio-economic.
>
> I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
> something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
> we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
> nice bread. But to each their own.

Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:30:38 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
>> >> >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
>> >> >>
>> >> >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>> >>
>> >> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>> >
>> >Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society. It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>>
>> I don't fear corn and I don't associate it with lower socio-economic.
>> I just never realised it was such a big deal in the US. Spam is cheap
>> meat. I don't like that. Aloha shoyu is nasty and unhealthy, but I
>> don't know if it's lower socio-economic.
>>
>> I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
>> something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
>> we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
>> nice bread. But to each their own.
>
>Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
>
>https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik

Lemme guess. A slice of spam on white rice held together by seaweed. A
deepfried chunk of chicken. A body part of a Red Indian. Beef pieces
on cabbage. A sprinkling of spring onion.

Close?

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
>>>>> buy yourself a TV dinner.
>>>>>
>>>> Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>>>
>>> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>>
>> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society. It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>
> I don't fear corn and I don't associate it with lower socio-economic.
> I just never realised it was such a big deal in the US. Spam is cheap
> meat. I don't like that. Aloha shoyu is nasty and unhealthy, but I
> don't know if it's lower socio-economic.
>
> I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
> something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
> we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
> nice bread. But to each their own.
>

Yoose are just using the soup and corn as a device to get you close
enough to sniff a few extra asses.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 16:30:38 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
>>>>>>> buy yourself a TV dinner.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>>>>
>>>> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society. It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>>>
>>> I don't fear corn and I don't associate it with lower socio-economic.
>>> I just never realised it was such a big deal in the US. Spam is cheap
>>> meat. I don't like that. Aloha shoyu is nasty and unhealthy, but I
>>> don't know if it's lower socio-economic.
>>>
>>> I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
>>> something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
>>> we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
>>> nice bread. But to each their own.
>>
>> Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik
>
> Lemme guess. A slice of spam on white rice held together by seaweed. A
> deepfried chunk of chicken. A body part of a Red Indian. Beef pieces
> on cabbage. A sprinkling of spring onion.
>
> Close?
>

Popeye has rubbed off on yoose!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:03:35 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:25:03 PM UTC-10, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:21:39 PM UTC-7, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> > > >> On 2020-06-17, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Loin is very lean to make pulled pork. I'd use a butt or picnic
> > > >>> and
> > > >>> roast the loin.
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes, I know, Ed. But, I following Crock-Pot's intructions to the
> > > >> T.
> > > >>
> > > >> Even then, I didn't remove ALL the fat cap as instructed). Left a
> > > >> little fer flavor.
> > > >>
> > > >> nb
> > > >
> > > > I'm probably late to this party. But here's my favorite recipe to
> > > > do
> > > > a crock pot pork butt. I use it for a lot of different things.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About a 3-4 lb pork butt - bone in is fine or not
> > > > 4-5 slices of bacon
> > > > 5-6 large cloves of garlic, chopped
> > > > 1 1/2 T. Black Hawaiian Lava Salt
> > > > 2 T. Liquid Smoke
> > > >
> > > > Cut the raw bacon pieces in half and line the bottom of the crock
> > > > pot
> > > > with them.
> > > >
> > > > Chop the garlic and sprinkle over the bacon.
> > > >
> > > > This is a very fatty cut of pork so you will have lots of good fat
> > > > in
> > > > the finished product. Or trim off as much fat as you prefer.
> > > >
> > > > Poke holes in the pork butt and rub it well with the Black Hawaiian
> > > > salt.
> > > >
> > > > Place the pork butt fat side down (trim as much fat as you like,
> > > > your
> > > > preference) on top of the bacon and garlic.
> > > >
> > > > Sprinkle the Liquid Smoke over the pork butt.
> > > >
> > > > Do not add any other liquid to the pot. Â You want the pork to roast
> > > > in the crock pot, not braise. Â It puts out enough of it's own
> > > > juices.
> > > >
> > > > I cooked mine 10 hours on low because that's how long I was out of
> > > > the
> > > > house at work, etc.
> > > >
> > > > You can vary your cooking time and cook in the crockpot on either hi
> > > > or low depending on how much time you have. Â Probably start out on
> > > > hi
> > > > and go to low after 4 hours. Â You want it to be fall apart tender.
> > > >
> > > > Pull the pork apart and stir around in the crock pot to mix all the
> > > > juices and bacon and garlic around in the pork.
> > > >
> > > > This pulled pork can be used in a myriad of ways€¦
> > > >
> > > > I like to serve it initially with cole slaw and potato salad like a
> > > > good ol pulled pork dinner.
> > > > Then I use it for carnitas or tacos or burritos etc.
> > > > You can mix the pulled pork with bbq sauce and serve as pulled pork
> > > > sandwiches, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2 tablespoons of liquid smoke? I bet it tastes like an old
> > > stovepipe from a wood burning heater.
> > >
> > > I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I reckon
> > > some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
> >
> >
> >
> > actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would think.
> > The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as well. The next
> > time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
>
> The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an important
> ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it since I was in high
> school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons or less. I nearly shit when I
> read the rfc post in the link below from way back in the day.
>
> I'm not saying that it would be awful or anything. I do admit to being too
> timid to even imagine using 1/4 cup of the stuff. OTOH, Liquid Smoke is
> way
> too expensive to be spreading it all around town in such a promiscuous
> manner. OTOH, I should just pick up a gallon of the stuff from the
> restaurant supply company and go hog wild. I suppose I should try it at
> least once before I die - just so I'll know.
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....4/yE3tMfsoiPsJ
>
> ====
>
> Isn't it lovely to see a post from Kili xx

It's like seeing Joe Hill again, alive as you and me.

==

There are a few people no longer with us that I would love to see

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:04:45 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 11:41:50 PM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > " wrote:
> > >
> > > Remember several weeks ago I said I had a pork loin in the freezer I'd
> > > give
> > > away to the first one to show up at my door? Well, a few weeks ago I
> > > dug it
> > > out and let it thaw then sliced it into ž inch thick slices. Those
> > > went
> > > into
> > > a HOT skillet to brown on both sides then I added mushrooms and the
> > > dreaded
> > > can of diluted cream of mushroom soup. Simmered all very slowly for
> > > about
> > > an hour.
> > >
> > > Served with fried corn and green beans. Heavenly!
> >
> > I do that occasionally with pork chops. I like to add
> > mashed potatoes on the side too for that good "gravy."
> > I also only dilute the can with about 1/3 can water.
> >
> > Just curious:
> > If it turned out heavenly, why did you describe the can of
> > cream of mushroom soup as "the dreaded can of...?"
>
> I used to cook pork chops in mushroom soup back in the day. These days it
> feels so retro to cook like that. We have a lot of cans of the soup
> because
> my son uses it in his green bean casserole. I was almost going to open a
> can
> for my hamburger steak but chickened out. As they say, "you can't ever go
> back again..."
>
> ===
>
> Sounds better to me))

The kids today are going to change the way Hawaii cooks. It has always been
the case that they younger generation will do their own thing and go their
own way but out here in the most isolated spot on the planet, the kids are
looking towards the East i.e., the mainland and white/black cultures. Is
there anything more American than canned cream of mushroom soup? Not really.

===

If it is what they like ... I prefer to make my own stuff.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> >>
> >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>
> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.

Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.

====

D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
and now I love it too)

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> >> >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> >> >>
> >> >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >>
> >> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >
> >Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of
> >society. It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn
> >(???). The question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these
> >things.
>
> I don't fear corn and I don't associate it with lower socio-economic.
> I just never realised it was such a big deal in the US. Spam is cheap
> meat. I don't like that. Aloha shoyu is nasty and unhealthy, but I
> don't know if it's lower socio-economic.
>
> I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
> something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
> we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
> nice bread. But to each their own.

Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your
worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik

===

Hehe D. loves musubi! Guess where I learned to make that too??

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> > >>
> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >
> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>
> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>
> ====
>
> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
> and now I love it too)

Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."

Here's a breakfast that came from McDonald's. It has three slices of Portuguese sausage and two slices of fried Spam and a big old heap of rice. I think your hubby might enjoy such a breakfast.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mk1E__pIl8ID0y

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:35:49 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> > >> >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> > >> >>
> > >> >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> > >>
> > >> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> > >
> > >Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of
> > >society. It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn
> > >(???). The question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these
> > >things.
> >
> > I don't fear corn and I don't associate it with lower socio-economic.
> > I just never realised it was such a big deal in the US. Spam is cheap
> > meat. I don't like that. Aloha shoyu is nasty and unhealthy, but I
> > don't know if it's lower socio-economic.
> >
> > I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
> > something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
> > we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
> > nice bread. But to each their own.
>
> Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your
> worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik
>
> ===
>
> Hehe D. loves musubi! Guess where I learned to make that too??

Oh, I can guess aright! That musubi was not a good one. The proportions were out of whack. It was way too thick. The Spam slice was pretty much of ideal thickness but that block of rice was about 1/2" too thick. The next time I buy one of those, I'm gonna take a ruler and measure it first!

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
>> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
>> > >>
>> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>> >
>> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>>
>> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
>> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
>> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>>
>> ====
>>
>> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
>> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
>> and now I love it too)
>
>Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."

My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> > >>
> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >
> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>
> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>
> ====
>
> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot
> in
> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying
> it
> and now I love it too)

Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of
what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."

Here's a breakfast that came from McDonald's. It has three slices of
Portuguese sausage and two slices of fried Spam and a big old heap of rice.
I think your hubby might enjoy such a breakfast.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mk1E__pIl8ID0y

===

I am very sure he would ... but .. are you sure there is sausage in
there?? I see egg!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:35:49 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 1:19:45 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:56:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking.
> > >> >> Just
> > >> >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> > >> >>
> > >> >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> > >>
> > >> Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> > >
> > >Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of
> > >society. It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently,
> > >corn
> > >(???). The question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these
> > >things.
> >
> > I don't fear corn and I don't associate it with lower socio-economic.
> > I just never realised it was such a big deal in the US. Spam is cheap
> > meat. I don't like that. Aloha shoyu is nasty and unhealthy, but I
> > don't know if it's lower socio-economic.
> >
> > I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
> > something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
> > we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
> > nice bread. But to each their own.
>
> Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your
> worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik
>
> ===
>
> Hehe D. loves musubi! Guess where I learned to make that too??

Oh, I can guess aright! That musubi was not a good one. The proportions were
out of whack. It was way too thick. The Spam slice was pretty much of ideal
thickness but that block of rice was about 1/2" too thick. The next time I
buy one of those, I'm gonna take a ruler and measure it first!

===
LOL let me know how that goes?? Yes it does look a bit odd, but the
general idea is the same

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:05:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> >> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> >> > >>
> >> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >> >
> >> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >>
> >> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
> >> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
> >> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
> >>
> >> ====
> >>
> >> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
> >> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
> >> and now I love it too)
> >
> >Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>
> My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
> extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
> pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.

My guess is that you're completely wrong about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:37:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:05:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>> >> > > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
>> >> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>> >> >
>> >> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>> >>
>> >> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
>> >> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
>> >> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>> >>
>> >> ====
>> >>
>> >> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
>> >> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
>> >> and now I love it too)
>> >
>> >Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>>
>> My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
>> extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
>> pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.
>
>My guess is that you're completely wrong about that.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE

If you're still guessing, that YouTube clip can't have been very
convincing

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 19:49:35 +1000, Bruce > wrote:

>On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:37:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:05:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>>> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
>>> >> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>>> >>
>>> >> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
>>> >> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
>>> >> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>>> >>
>>> >> ====
>>> >>
>>> >> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
>>> >> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
>>> >> and now I love it too)
>>> >
>>> >Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>>>
>>> My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
>>> extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
>>> pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.
>>
>>My guess is that you're completely wrong about that.
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE
>
>If you're still guessing, that YouTube clip can't have been very
>convincing

And here's a user comment on that clip from someone with a rather
Dutchy name:

"How Spam is really made" but don't actually show the process of the
boning or grinding or it going in the cans. Why not just call it "4:58
long Spam advertisement"?

Aha.

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:34:25 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> > > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> > > >>
> > > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> > >
> > > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >
> > Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
> > It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
> > question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
> >
> > ====
> >
> > D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot
> > in
> > the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying
> > it
> > and now I love it too)
>
> Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of
> what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>
> Here's a breakfast that came from McDonald's. It has three slices of
> Portuguese sausage and two slices of fried Spam and a big old heap of rice.
> I think your hubby might enjoy such a breakfast.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mk1E__pIl8ID0y
>
> ===
>
> I am very sure he would ... but .. are you sure there is sausage in
> there?? I see egg!

The sausage is in there - hidden under the egg. Portuguese sausage is even more popular than Spam. It's the stuff that we always used to eat during breakfast and practically all of them are locally made. Occasionally, we'll have some fried Spam for breakfast.

On the mainland, Portuguese sausage AKA, "linguica" is just another sausage in a sea of sausages. In Hawaii, PS is king. That may change in the future as the younger generations try out new foods.

https://tastyislandhawaii.com/2007/0...sage-shootout/

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 19:49:35 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:37:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:05:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >>> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >>> >> ...
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>> >> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> >>> >> > > wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> >>> >> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> >>> >> > >>
> >>> >> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
> >>> >> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
> >>> >> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> ====
> >>> >>
> >>> >> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
> >>> >> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
> >>> >> and now I love it too)
> >>> >
> >>> >Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
> >>>
> >>> My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
> >>> extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
> >>> pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.
> >>
> >>My guess is that you're completely wrong about that.
> >>
> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE
> >
> >If you're still guessing, that YouTube clip can't have been very
> >convincing
>
> And here's a user comment on that clip from someone with a rather
> Dutchy name:
>
> "How Spam is really made" but don't actually show the process of the
> boning or grinding or it going in the cans. Why not just call it "4:58
> long Spam advertisement"?
>
> Aha.

Mostly, you're interested in ingredients, not processes - and that ain't no guess!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:05:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> >> > > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking.
> >> > >> Just
> >> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> >> > >>
> >> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >> >
> >> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >>
> >> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of
> >> society.
> >> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???).
> >> The
> >> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
> >>
> >> ====
> >>
> >> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a
> >> lot in
> >> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about
> >> frying it
> >> and now I love it too)
> >
> >Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of
> >what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>
> My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
> extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
> pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.

My guess is that you're completely wrong about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE

==

This is what Spam is made from :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:34:25 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking.
> > > >> Just
> > > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> > > >>
> > > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> > >
> > > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >
> > Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of
> > society.
> > It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???).
> > The
> > question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
> >
> > ====
> >
> > D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot
> > in
> > the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about
> > frying
> > it
> > and now I love it too)
>
> Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of
> what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>
> Here's a breakfast that came from McDonald's. It has three slices of
> Portuguese sausage and two slices of fried Spam and a big old heap of
> rice.
> I think your hubby might enjoy such a breakfast.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mk1E__pIl8ID0y
>
> ===
>
> I am very sure he would ... but .. are you sure there is sausage in
> there?? I see egg!

The sausage is in there - hidden under the egg. Portuguese sausage is even
more popular than Spam. It's the stuff that we always used to eat during
breakfast and practically all of them are locally made. Occasionally, we'll
have some fried Spam for breakfast.

On the mainland, Portuguese sausage AKA, "linguica" is just another sausage
in a sea of sausages. In Hawaii, PS is king. That may change in the future
as the younger generations try out new foods.

https://tastyislandhawaii.com/2007/0...sage-shootout/

====

WOW!! erm I was just saying I couldn't see any on that plate Was it
hiding under the Spam?

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 19:49:35 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:37:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:05:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> >>> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> >>> >> ...
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >>> >> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
>> >>> >> > > wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >>> >> > >>
>> >>> >> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
>> >>> >> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
>> >>> >> > >>
>> >>> >> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
>> >>> >> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
>> >>> >> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> ====
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
>> >>> >> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
>> >>> >> and now I love it too)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>> >>>
>> >>> My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
>> >>> extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
>> >>> pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.
>> >>
>> >>My guess is that you're completely wrong about that.
>> >>
>> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE
>> >
>> >If you're still guessing, that YouTube clip can't have been very
>> >convincing
>>
>> And here's a user comment on that clip from someone with a rather
>> Dutchy name:
>>
>> "How Spam is really made" but don't actually show the process of the
>> boning or grinding or it going in the cans. Why not just call it "4:58
>> long Spam advertisement"?
>>
>> Aha.
>
>Mostly, you're interested in ingredients, not processes - and that ain't no guess!

I don't know if spam's separator meat, but that's the lowest of the
lowest. Used by McDonald's and similar. But yeah, animal welfare
concerns me more.

Bruce wrote:
>
> I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
> something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
> we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
> nice bread. But to each their own.

Cream of Mushroom soup is not very good as a stand alone soup
but it does make a nice ingredient in a dish. It doesn't
"ruin" a home cooked meal, it's an enhancement.

Some here will claim, "it's just as easy to make your own."
That's nonsense.

When you need a new tire, do you make your own or do you
just buy an industrial tire from the store?

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 07:02:33 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I don't fear canned soup, but to me it seems that when you cook
>> something yourself, it's a shame to ruin that with industrial soup. If
>> we're out of time or energy, I'd rather just have that soup with some
>> nice bread. But to each their own.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

>Cream of Mushroom soup is not very good as a stand alone soup
>but it does make a nice ingredient in a dish. It doesn't
>"ruin" a home cooked meal, it's an enhancement.
>
>Some here will claim, "it's just as easy to make your own."
>That's nonsense.
>
>When you need a new tire, do you make your own or do you
>just buy an industrial tire from the store?

I buy the ingredients and make my own, of course. Who wants prefab
tyres?

Bruce wrote:
>
> But yeah, animal welfare concerns me more.

Just a few of them though. The heck with the other ones.

Ophelia wrote:
> There are a few people no longer with us that I would love to see

That's what Heaven is supposed to be all about.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."

Regular Spam is a bit salty but I'm ok with that.
Normally, I'll buy the low sodium Spam if available.
It's still salty but not as much.

dsi1 wrote:
>
> I used to cook pork chops in mushroom soup back in the day.
> These days it feels so retro to cook like that.

If the food is right and you love it, why change?

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
> There are a few people no longer with us that I would love to see

That's what Heaven is supposed to be all about.

===

Hopefully, but I doubt I would get there You?

"Gary" wrote in message ...

dsi1 wrote:
>
> I used to cook pork chops in mushroom soup back in the day.
> These days it feels so retro to cook like that.

If the food is right and you love it, why change?

+ 1k

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
>
> Ophelia wrote:
> > There are a few people no longer with us that I would love to see
>
> That's what Heaven is supposed to be all about.
>
> ===
>
> Hopefully, but I doubt I would get there You?

You're a nice person and there's a place for you there.
I'd like to think I'll get there too (if there is
a there)

I'll say one thing. If I do get to heaven and don't find
all my ferrets and cats there, I'll request to get
transfered to the "other place." heh heh

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 7:21:42 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>
> Regular Spam is a bit salty but I'm ok with that.
> Normally, I'll buy the low sodium Spam if available.
> It's still salty but not as much.
>
For me, it's too salty but my gripe with Spam is I've never failed yet to
get a can that didn't have gristle in it. Shriek!! That just makes my
hair stand on end and stomach lurch.

Sheldon's brother came out too, here he is letting
Shelly know -

https://imgur.com/a/hFCN0

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 12:30:48 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:34:25 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking.
> > > > >> Just
> > > > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> > > > >>
> > > > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> > > >
> > > > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> > >
> > > Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of
> > > society.
> > > It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???).
> > > The
> > > question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
> > >
> > > ====
> > >
> > > D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot
> > > in
> > > the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about
> > > frying
> > > it
> > > and now I love it too)
> >
> > Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of
> > what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
> >
> > Here's a breakfast that came from McDonald's. It has three slices of
> > Portuguese sausage and two slices of fried Spam and a big old heap of
> > rice.
> > I think your hubby might enjoy such a breakfast.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...mk1E__pIl8ID0y
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I am very sure he would ... but .. are you sure there is sausage in
> > there?? I see egg!
>
> The sausage is in there - hidden under the egg. Portuguese sausage is even
> more popular than Spam. It's the stuff that we always used to eat during
> breakfast and practically all of them are locally made. Occasionally, we'll
> have some fried Spam for breakfast.
>
> On the mainland, Portuguese sausage AKA, "linguica" is just another sausage
> in a sea of sausages. In Hawaii, PS is king. That may change in the future
> as the younger generations try out new foods.
>
> https://tastyislandhawaii.com/2007/0...sage-shootout/
>
> ====
>
> WOW!! erm I was just saying I couldn't see any on that plate Was it
> hiding under the Spam?

McDonald's should have placed the sausage and the Spam on the top of the eggs instead of hiding them underneath like a miser hides his gold under the bed. The round disk and rectangle on a plate means breakfast to the hungry Hawaiians.

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 12:57:53 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:56:03 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 19:49:35 +1000, Bruce > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 02:37:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:05:46 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> >>> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 01:55:49 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> >>> > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:33:15 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> >>> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> >>> >> ...
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:46:11 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> >>> >> > On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:42:02 -0700 (PDT), "
> >> >>> >> > > wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > >On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 3:20:45 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >> >>> >> > >>
> >> >>> >> > >> Adding a can of industrial soup ruins the idea of home cooking. Just
> >> >>> >> > >> buy yourself a TV dinner.
> >> >>> >> > >>
> >> >>> >> > >Your true objection is the m.e.a.t.
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > Uhm no, that had nothing to do with it.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Mostly, you associate can soup with lower socioeconomic levels of society.
> >> >>> >> It's the reason you fear Spam, Aloha Shoyu, and evidently, corn (???). The
> >> >>> >> question you got to ask yourself is why do you fear these things.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> ====
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> D. loves Spam and we always have several tins in He had it a lot in
> >> >>> >> the military and learned to love it there Here, I learned about frying it
> >> >>> >> and now I love it too)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
> >> >>>
> >> >>> My main problem with it is that it's cheap meat. Cheap meat means
> >> >>> extra-tortured animals. And apart from animal welfare, isn't spam
> >> >>> pressed separator meat? I'm not sure about that.
> >> >>
> >> >>My guess is that you're completely wrong about that.
> >> >>
> >> >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP7e0tV1sYE
> >> >
> >> >If you're still guessing, that YouTube clip can't have been very
> >> >convincing
> >>
> >> And here's a user comment on that clip from someone with a rather
> >> Dutchy name:
> >>
> >> "How Spam is really made" but don't actually show the process of the
> >> boning or grinding or it going in the cans. Why not just call it "4:58
> >> long Spam advertisement"?
> >>
> >> Aha.
> >
> >Mostly, you're interested in ingredients, not processes - and that ain't no guess!
>
> I don't know if spam's separator meat, but that's the lowest of the
> lowest. Used by McDonald's and similar. But yeah, animal welfare
> concerns me more.

You're way too concerned about how people see your socioeconomic status. I doubt that Spam uses separator meat but so what if it did? What makes it the lowest of the lowest?

I just had some Portuguese sausage that had some mechanically separated chicken in it. It's just so-so to me but my wife likes that particular sausage - she ain't the lowest of the low. OTOH, a guy that divides foods into socioeconomic classes is probably the lowest of the low. The Hawaiians have never had any disdain for humble food - that's mostly the thing of the white man.

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>You're way too concerned about how people see your socioeconomic status.

I don't care about socio-economic status. Keep repeating your mantra
if it makes you feel good, though.

>I doubt that Spam uses separator meat but so what if it did? What makes it the lowest of the lowest?
>
>I just had some Portuguese sausage that had some mechanically separated chicken
>in it. It's just so-so to me but my wife likes that particular sausage - she ain't the lowest of the low.

Nobody said she was. Why do you even say that? This is called
"spontaneous denial".

>OTOH, a guy that divides foods into socioeconomic classes is probably the lowest of the low.

Ah, there's your mantra again. Does it feel good?

>The Hawaiians have never had any disdain for humble food - that's mostly the thing of the white man.

Humble food doesn't have to be crappy industrial food. A carrot is
humble food. A potato is humble food. Separator meat is crap food.

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:19:27 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>
>Regular Spam is a bit salty but I'm ok with that.
>Normally, I'll buy the low sodium Spam if available.
>It's still salty but not as much.

Makes you wonder what they're trying to hide.

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:37:55 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 7:21:42 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> dsi1 wrote:
>> >
>> > Most of the people that hate Spam think it's low class and are afraid of what other people will think of them. The rest think it's too "salty."
>>
>> Regular Spam is a bit salty but I'm ok with that.
>> Normally, I'll buy the low sodium Spam if available.
>> It's still salty but not as much.
>>
>For me, it's too salty but my gripe with Spam is I've never failed yet to
>get a can that didn't have gristle in it. Shriek!! That just makes my
>hair stand on end and stomach lurch.

Gristle is typical of the lowest quality separator meat. Bits of the
carcass come off with the remaining meat bits.

Bruce wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >You're way too concerned about how people see your socioeconomic status.
>
> I don't care about socio-economic status. Keep repeating your mantra
> if it makes you feel good, though.
>
> >I doubt that Spam uses separator meat but so what if it did? What makes it the lowest of the lowest?
> >
> >I just had some Portuguese sausage that had some mechanically separated chicken
> >in it. It's just so-so to me but my wife likes that particular sausage - she ain't the lowest of the low.
>
> Nobody said she was. Why do you even say that? This is called
> "spontaneous denial".
>
> >OTOH, a guy that divides foods into socioeconomic classes is probably the lowest of the low.
>
> Ah, there's your mantra again. Does it feel good?
>
> >The Hawaiians have never had any disdain for humble food - that's mostly the thing of the white man.
>
> Humble food doesn't have to be crappy industrial food. A carrot is
> humble food. A potato is humble food. Separator meat is crap food.


And that crap food does not pass the "sniff test".

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 2:01:18 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> Gristle is typical of the lowest quality separator meat. Bits of the
> carcass come off with the remaining meat bits.
>
Honestly, when I've bitten into a piece of gristle I imagine my hair standing
on end like I see in cartoons. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to look
in the mirror and see this phenomenon.

UGH!

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:09:27 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 2:01:18 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Gristle is typical of the lowest quality separator meat. Bits of the
>> carcass come off with the remaining meat bits.
>>
>Honestly, when I've bitten into a piece of gristle I imagine my hair standing
>on end like I see in cartoons. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to look
>in the mirror and see this phenomenon.
>
>UGH!

Hawaiians love it because they're very humble people.