dsi1 wrote:

> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:25:03 PM UTC-10, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:21:39 PM UTC-7, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> > > >> On 2020-06-17, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >>> Loin is very lean to make pulled pork. I'd use a butt or
> > > picnic and >>> roast the loin.
> > > > >
> > > >> Yes, I know, Ed. But, I following Crock-Pot's intructions to
> > > the T.
> > > > >
> > > >> Even then, I didn't remove ALL the fat cap as instructed).
> > > Left a >> little fer flavor.
> > > > >
> > > >> nb
> > > >
> > > > I'm probably late to this party. But here's my favorite recipe
> > > > to do a crock pot pork butt. I use it for a lot of different
> > > > things.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > About a 3-4 lb pork butt - bone in is fine or not
> > > > 4-5 slices of bacon
> > > > 5-6 large cloves of garlic, chopped
> > > > 1 1/2 T. Black Hawaiian Lava Salt
> > > > 2 T. Liquid Smoke
> > > >
> > > > Cut the raw bacon pieces in half and line the bottom of the
> > > > crock pot with them.
> > > >
> > > > Chop the garlic and sprinkle over the bacon.
> > > >
> > > > This is a very fatty cut of pork so you will have lots of good
> > > > fat in the finished product. Or trim off as much fat as you
> > > > prefer.
> > > >
> > > > Poke holes in the pork butt and rub it well with the Black
> > > > Hawaiian salt.
> > > >
> > > > Place the pork butt fat side down (trim as much fat as you
> > > > like, your preference) on top of the bacon and garlic.
> > > >
> > > > Sprinkle the Liquid Smoke over the pork butt.
> > > >
> > > > Do not add any other liquid to the pot. ÂÂ*You want the pork to
> > > > roast in the crock pot, not braise. ÂÂ* It puts out enough of
> > > > it's own juices.
> > > >
> > > > I cooked mine 10 hours on low because that's how long I was out
> > > > of the house at work, etc.
> > > >
> > > > You can vary your cooking time and cook in the crockpot on
> > > > either hi or low depending on how much time you have.
> > > > ÂÂ*Probably start out on hi and go to low after 4 hours. ÂÂ*You
> > > > want it to be fall apart tender.
> > > >
> > > > Pull the pork apart and stir around in the crock pot to mix all
> > > > the juices and bacon and garlic around in the pork.
> > > >
> > > > This pulled pork can be used in a myriad of ways€¦
> > > >
> > > > I like to serve it initially with cole slaw and potato salad
> > > > like a good ol pulled pork dinner. Then I use it for carnitas
> > > > or tacos or burritos etc. You can mix the pulled pork with bbq
> > > > sauce and serve as pulled pork sandwiches, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2 tablespoons of liquid smoke? I bet it tastes like an old
> > > stovepipe from a wood burning heater.
> > >
> > > I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I reckon
> > > some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
> >
> >
> >
> > actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would
> > think. The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as
> > well. The next time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
>
> The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an important
> ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it since I was in
> high school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons or less. I nearly
> shit when I read the rfc post in the link below from way back in the
> day.
>
> I'm not saying that it would be awful or anything. I do admit to
> being too timid to even imagine using 1/4 cup of the stuff. OTOH,
> Liquid Smoke is way too expensive to be spreading it all around town
> in such a promiscuous manner. OTOH, I should just pick up a gallon of
> the stuff from the restaurant supply company and go hog wild. I
> suppose I should try it at least once before I die - just so I'll
> know.
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....Xmx4/yE3tMfsoi
> PsJ

Umm. she's long gone but that's not even remotely Kailua pork....

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 16:55:58 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 10:18:24 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> > On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 12:59:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 8:58:41 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> > >> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:25:43 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >You're way too concerned about how people see your
>> > socioeconomic status. >>
>> > >> I don't care about socio-economic status. Keep repeating your
>> > mantra >> if it makes you feel good, though.
>> > >>
>> > > That's not true. You divide foods and people by classes - soups,
>> > > soy sauce, canned meats. It's so ingrained into your soul that
>> > > you can no longer have the ability to perceive it. That's the
>> > > breaks.
>> >
>> > You confuse distinguishing different qualities with distinguishing
>> > different classes of people. You're probably not even able to see
>> > that you're doing that. That's why it's good that you have me to
>> > tell you, humble man.
>>
>> The difference is that I'm aware of what I do. Don't try your lame
>> mind games on me - it won't work.
>
>Nor should they. Bruce is a lame duck and everyone knows it by now.

This message was brought to you by Cshenkie, the Klueless Killfile
Koward.

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:51:34 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:25:03 PM UTC-10, ImStillMags wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:21:39 PM UTC-7, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > > > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> > > > >> On 2020-06-17, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >>> Loin is very lean to make pulled pork. I'd use a butt or
> > > > picnic and >>> roast the loin.
> > > > > >
> > > > >> Yes, I know, Ed. But, I following Crock-Pot's intructions to
> > > > the T.
> > > > > >
> > > > >> Even then, I didn't remove ALL the fat cap as instructed).
> > > > Left a >> little fer flavor.
> > > > > >
> > > > >> nb
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm probably late to this party. But here's my favorite recipe
> > > > > to do a crock pot pork butt. I use it for a lot of different
> > > > > things.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > About a 3-4 lb pork butt - bone in is fine or not
> > > > > 4-5 slices of bacon
> > > > > 5-6 large cloves of garlic, chopped
> > > > > 1 1/2 T. Black Hawaiian Lava Salt
> > > > > 2 T. Liquid Smoke
> > > > >
> > > > > Cut the raw bacon pieces in half and line the bottom of the
> > > > > crock pot with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chop the garlic and sprinkle over the bacon.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a very fatty cut of pork so you will have lots of good
> > > > > fat in the finished product. Or trim off as much fat as you
> > > > > prefer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Poke holes in the pork butt and rub it well with the Black
> > > > > Hawaiian salt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Place the pork butt fat side down (trim as much fat as you
> > > > > like, your preference) on top of the bacon and garlic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sprinkle the Liquid Smoke over the pork butt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not add any other liquid to the pot. ÂÂ*You want the pork to
> > > > > roast in the crock pot, not braise. ÂÂ* It puts out enough of
> > > > > it's own juices.
> > > > >
> > > > > I cooked mine 10 hours on low because that's how long I was out
> > > > > of the house at work, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can vary your cooking time and cook in the crockpot on
> > > > > either hi or low depending on how much time you have.
> > > > > ÂÂ*Probably start out on hi and go to low after 4 hours. ÂÂ*You
> > > > > want it to be fall apart tender.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pull the pork apart and stir around in the crock pot to mix all
> > > > > the juices and bacon and garlic around in the pork.
> > > > >
> > > > > This pulled pork can be used in a myriad of ways€¦
> > > > >
> > > > > I like to serve it initially with cole slaw and potato salad
> > > > > like a good ol pulled pork dinner. Then I use it for carnitas
> > > > > or tacos or burritos etc. You can mix the pulled pork with bbq
> > > > > sauce and serve as pulled pork sandwiches, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2 tablespoons of liquid smoke? I bet it tastes like an old
> > > > stovepipe from a wood burning heater.
> > > >
> > > > I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I reckon
> > > > some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would
> > > think. The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as
> > > well. The next time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
> >
> > The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an important
> > ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it since I was in
> > high school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons or less. I nearly
> > shit when I read the rfc post in the link below from way back in the
> > day.
> >
> > I'm not saying that it would be awful or anything. I do admit to
> > being too timid to even imagine using 1/4 cup of the stuff. OTOH,
> > Liquid Smoke is way too expensive to be spreading it all around town
> > in such a promiscuous manner. OTOH, I should just pick up a gallon of
> > the stuff from the restaurant supply company and go hog wild. I
> > suppose I should try it at least once before I die - just so I'll
> > know.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....Xmx4/yE3tMfsoi
> > PsJ
>
> Umm. she's long gone but that's not even remotely Kailua pork....

Beat's the heck out of me how that recipe would turn out. I'm not sure what Kailua pork is, even though I was raised in Kailua.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx8BuBkucho

On 2020-06-20 5:55 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:

>> The difference is that I'm aware of what I do. Don't try your lame
>> mind games on me - it won't work.
>
> Nor should they. Bruce is a lame duck and everyone knows it by now.
>

I thought a lame duck was a politician sitting out the last few weeks of
his term after being voted out. There was a more apt description back in
the 50's... lame brain.

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 20:03:16 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-06-20 5:55 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>
>>> The difference is that I'm aware of what I do. Don't try your lame
>>> mind games on me - it won't work.
>>
>> Nor should they. Bruce is a lame duck and everyone knows it by now.
>>
>
>I thought a lame duck was a politician sitting out the last few weeks of
>his term after being voted out. There was a more apt description back in
>the 50's... lame brain.

It must be a special day today. All the cowards are coming out to
play.

On 2020-06-20 6:17 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>

>> When you need a new tire, do you make your own or do you
>> just buy an industrial tire from the store?
>
> It is actually simple to make your own mushroom soup, but I don't
> recommend it when you need to get dinner on the table within 1 hour of
> start time to serve. Oh the soup would be ready, but not in time to
> add to other things.
>


I should try making it some time. I was fed a lot of Campbells' Cream
of Mushroom soup when I was a kid. I ate it, but I was never a big fan
of it. Years later I worked in a camp where the cook was pretty good at
making soups to use up leftovers. One day he made cream of mushroom soup
and it was amazing. I have since had it in a few restaurants and liked
it. Now there is just the little problem of my wife not being interested
in mushrooms.

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 20:18:00 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-06-20 6:17 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> When you need a new tire, do you make your own or do you
>>> just buy an industrial tire from the store?
>>
>> It is actually simple to make your own mushroom soup, but I don't
>> recommend it when you need to get dinner on the table within 1 hour of
>> start time to serve. Oh the soup would be ready, but not in time to
>> add to other things.
>>
>I should try making it some time. I was fed a lot of Campbells' Cream
>of Mushroom soup when I was a kid. I ate it, but I was never a big fan
>of it. Years later I worked in a camp where the cook was pretty good at
>making soups to use up leftovers. One day he made cream of mushroom soup
>and it was amazing. I have since had it in a few restaurants and liked
>it. Now there is just the little problem of my wife not being interested
>in mushrooms.

Yet she married one.

Barney Cloggenstein wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 20:03:16 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2020-06-20 5:55 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>>> The difference is that I'm aware of what I do. Don't try your lame
>>>> mind games on me - it won't work.
>>>
>>> Nor should they. Bruce is a lame duck and everyone knows it by now.
>>>
>>
>> I thought a lame duck was a politician sitting out the last few weeks of
>> his term after being voted out. There was a more apt description back in
>> the 50's... lame brain.
>
> It must be a special day today. All the cowards are coming out to
> play.
>

Clop clop clop clop clop clop clop clop clop clop clop clop clop.

Bye Barney.

On 2020 Jun 18, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your
> worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...8r7KUFHDjr_aVr
> tDik

Is that a pickled, broiled thumb at the top right? Poor Captain Cook!

leo

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 6:51:48 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Jun 18, , dsi1 wrote
> (in >):
>
> > Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch. Your
> > worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...8r7KUFHDjr_aVr
> > tDik
>
> Is that a pickled, broiled thumb at the top right? Poor Captain Cook!
>
> leo

The Hawaiians should have never done Cook like they did. After all, he was a rock star. Near as I can tell, he was Hawaii's first tourist death - with many more to follow. Let me tell you, it ain't a pretty picture.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/07/dr...ges-in-hawaii/

On 2020 Jun 20, , dsi1 wrote
(in >):

> The Hawaiians should have never done Cook like they did. After all, he was a
> rock star. Near as I can tell, he was Hawaii's first tourist death - with
> many more to follow. Let me tell you, it ain't a pretty picture.
>
> https://www.civilbeat.org/2019/07/dr...ourism-surges-
> in-hawaii/

Drownings should be way, way down this year. Hmmm. I have a dry cough,
cant taste food like I used to and have mild flu symptoms. Other than
that, I feel like taking a vacation. Whats your address again?

leo

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:51:34 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:25:03 PM UTC-10, ImStillMags wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:21:39 PM UTC-7, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > > > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> > > > >> On 2020-06-17, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >>> Loin is very lean to make pulled pork. I'd use a butt or
> > > > picnic and >>> roast the loin.
> > > > > >
> > > > >> Yes, I know, Ed. But, I following Crock-Pot's intructions to
> > > > the T.
> > > > > >
> > > > >> Even then, I didn't remove ALL the fat cap as instructed).
> > > > Left a >> little fer flavor.
> > > > > >
> > > > >> nb
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm probably late to this party. But here's my favorite recipe
> > > > > to do a crock pot pork butt. I use it for a lot of different
> > > > > things.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > About a 3-4 lb pork butt - bone in is fine or not
> > > > > 4-5 slices of bacon
> > > > > 5-6 large cloves of garlic, chopped
> > > > > 1 1/2 T. Black Hawaiian Lava Salt
> > > > > 2 T. Liquid Smoke
> > > > >
> > > > > Cut the raw bacon pieces in half and line the bottom of the
> > > > > crock pot with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chop the garlic and sprinkle over the bacon.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a very fatty cut of pork so you will have lots of good
> > > > > fat in the finished product. Or trim off as much fat as you
> > > > > prefer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Poke holes in the pork butt and rub it well with the Black
> > > > > Hawaiian salt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Place the pork butt fat side down (trim as much fat as you
> > > > > like, your preference) on top of the bacon and garlic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sprinkle the Liquid Smoke over the pork butt.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do not add any other liquid to the pot. Â You want the pork to
> > > > > roast in the crock pot, not braise. Â It puts out enough of
> > > > > it's own juices.
> > > > >
> > > > > I cooked mine 10 hours on low because that's how long I was out
> > > > > of the house at work, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can vary your cooking time and cook in the crockpot on
> > > > > either hi or low depending on how much time you have.
> > > > > Â Probably start out on hi and go to low after 4 hours. Â You
> > > > > want it to be fall apart tender.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pull the pork apart and stir around in the crock pot to mix all
> > > > > the juices and bacon and garlic around in the pork.
> > > > >
> > > > > This pulled pork can be used in a myriad of ways€¦
> > > > >
> > > > > I like to serve it initially with cole slaw and potato salad
> > > > > like a good ol pulled pork dinner. Then I use it for carnitas
> > > > > or tacos or burritos etc. You can mix the pulled pork with bbq
> > > > > sauce and serve as pulled pork sandwiches, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2 tablespoons of liquid smoke? I bet it tastes like an old
> > > > stovepipe from a wood burning heater.
> > > >
> > > > I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I reckon
> > > > some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would
> > > think. The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as
> > > well. The next time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
> >
> > The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an important
> > ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it since I was in
> > high school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons or less. I nearly
> > shit when I read the rfc post in the link below from way back in the
> > day.
> >
> > I'm not saying that it would be awful or anything. I do admit to
> > being too timid to even imagine using 1/4 cup of the stuff. OTOH,
> > Liquid Smoke is way too expensive to be spreading it all around town
> > in such a promiscuous manner. OTOH, I should just pick up a gallon of
> > the stuff from the restaurant supply company and go hog wild. I
> > suppose I should try it at least once before I die - just so I'll
> > know.
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....Xmx4/yE3tMfsoi
> > PsJ
>
> Umm. she's long gone but that's not even remotely Kailua pork....

Beat's the heck out of me how that recipe would turn out. I'm not sure what
Kailua pork is, even though I was raised in Kailua.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx8BuBkucho

===

You were raised there??? Wow you were very lucky. I won't even try to
describe where I was raised))

cshenk wrote:
>
> 3. Running just flat out isn't fun. People who like it are crazy I
> think.

Hey, wait a minute!


> To me it's always been 'have to do it to keep my job'.
> Technically a run/jog first thing in the morning is best for weightloss
> but no sane people really *want* to do that *I* think. But what do I
> know?

I agree with that. When I ran long distance, my favorite time
was between 4pm-6pm, after I got home from work. I ran 6
days a week. Each run was always 7 miles and occasionally
12 miles. Approx. 55 miles per week.

I never did like running in the morning though. Unfortunately,
all the races I entered always started at 8am. That
sucked.

> I'm naturally very sedentary. She had to learn though. By the
> time she hit the MEPS (inprocessing for military then you go delayed
> entry and she was 148lbs) she was able to do 1 mile in 20 minutes. Not
> a great speed but with a run every afternoon every other day, she'd
> speed up naturally. (she eventually made her 1.5 mile run at just under
> 14 minutes BTW).

Although I've done better times on my own with stopwatch,
(Timex Trialathon watch), my best "official race" time was
my very first race. The Shamrock 8K (5 miles) race held
here every March.

I quit smoking at age 35 and started running in July then
entered that race 8 months later. As I had no idea what
was a good time, I almost didn't sign up for it, thinking
I might come in way last even racing against very old
runners.

But I did sign up and I did very well. I came in with the
top 8% of all runners. No trophy but surprisingly good.
It was 32:30 for 5 miles. That's 6:46 per minute average.

That's verifiable too for the few that think I lie.
It's on record. I can provide a scan of the race results
or tell you the year to look up.

Anyway, I do like running outdoors (mainly along the
boardwalk). You get fresh air and see many people
and things. Running on a treadmill is the most boring
thing to me, even if watching tv while you do it.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 6/20/2020 3:08 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 05:05:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 7:05:05 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 03:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:27:08 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>> dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for lunch.
> >>>>>> Your worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ;-( I want more VEGGIES!
> >>>>
> >>>> Agreed. The beef is enough meat for me, the rice in the musubi
> >>>> is about 2x what I'd eat. Fill the rest of the container with
> >>>> veggies.
> >>>
> >>> Why do you always say that you're obese, but eat very little?
> >>
> >> Because I don't get any exercise. There's nothing more
> >> boring than exercise.
> >
> > True. When I want to lose weight, I don't exercise more, but eat less.
> > It seems more practical to tackle the problem at the source and it
> > works. At least, until I start eating more again.
> >
>
> While that works, as you get older it gets more difficult. I eat much
> less than I did 10 years and especially 20 years ago but weigh 20 pounds
> more. had crept to 25. Portions of the goodies have been cut too but
> still tough to get rid of more. Harder to be as active too.

No fancy degree here but I studied nutrition, etc many years ago.
On average, once you turn 40 or so, your metabolism starts
slowing down. Time to eat less and/or exercise a bit more.

And that only progresses more as you continue to live longer.
And as you get older, who wants to eat less and/or exercise
more?

This is when many middle-age to older people start to get
some extra fat on them.

I've got some extra pounds on me but...dammit...I've earned
them all so back off!

"Gary" wrote in message ...

cshenk wrote:
>
> 3. Running just flat out isn't fun. People who like it are crazy I
> think.

Hey, wait a minute!


> To me it's always been 'have to do it to keep my job'.
> Technically a run/jog first thing in the morning is best for weightloss
> but no sane people really *want* to do that *I* think. But what do I
> know?

I agree with that. When I ran long distance, my favorite time
was between 4pm-6pm, after I got home from work. I ran 6
days a week. Each run was always 7 miles and occasionally
12 miles. Approx. 55 miles per week.

I never did like running in the morning though. Unfortunately,
all the races I entered always started at 8am. That
sucked.

> I'm naturally very sedentary. She had to learn though. By the
> time she hit the MEPS (inprocessing for military then you go delayed
> entry and she was 148lbs) she was able to do 1 mile in 20 minutes. Not
> a great speed but with a run every afternoon every other day, she'd
> speed up naturally. (she eventually made her 1.5 mile run at just under
> 14 minutes BTW).

Although I've done better times on my own with stopwatch,
(Timex Trialathon watch), my best "official race" time was
my very first race. The Shamrock 8K (5 miles) race held
here every March.

I quit smoking at age 35 and started running in July then
entered that race 8 months later. As I had no idea what
was a good time, I almost didn't sign up for it, thinking
I might come in way last even racing against very old
runners.

But I did sign up and I did very well. I came in with the
top 8% of all runners. No trophy but surprisingly good.
It was 32:30 for 5 miles. That's 6:46 per minute average.

That's verifiable too for the few that think I lie.
It's on record. I can provide a scan of the race results
or tell you the year to look up.

Anyway, I do like running outdoors (mainly along the
boardwalk). You get fresh air and see many people
and things. Running on a treadmill is the most boring
thing to me, even if watching tv while you do it.

===

Applause!!! ))

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 6/20/2020 3:08 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 05:05:35 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 7:05:05 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 03:02:37 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:27:08 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>> dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile, on June 18th in the year 2020, I'm eating this for
> >>>>>> lunch.
> >>>>>> Your worst lower socioeconomic fears have been realized...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...UFHDjr_aVrtDik
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ;-( I want more VEGGIES!
> >>>>
> >>>> Agreed. The beef is enough meat for me, the rice in the musubi
> >>>> is about 2x what I'd eat. Fill the rest of the container with
> >>>> veggies.
> >>>
> >>> Why do you always say that you're obese, but eat very little?
> >>
> >> Because I don't get any exercise. There's nothing more
> >> boring than exercise.
> >
> > True. When I want to lose weight, I don't exercise more, but eat less.
> > It seems more practical to tackle the problem at the source and it
> > works. At least, until I start eating more again.
> >
>
> While that works, as you get older it gets more difficult. I eat much
> less than I did 10 years and especially 20 years ago but weigh 20 pounds
> more. had crept to 25. Portions of the goodies have been cut too but
> still tough to get rid of more. Harder to be as active too.

No fancy degree here but I studied nutrition, etc many years ago.
On average, once you turn 40 or so, your metabolism starts
slowing down. Time to eat less and/or exercise a bit more.

And that only progresses more as you continue to live longer.
And as you get older, who wants to eat less and/or exercise
more?

This is when many middle-age to older people start to get
some extra fat on them.

I've got some extra pounds on me but...dammit...I've earned
them all so back off!

===

LOL Yayyyyyyyyyy

dsi1 wrote:
>
> The Hawaiians should have never done Cook like they did. After all, he was a rock star. Near as I can tell, he was Hawaii's first tourist death

I have the good biography book of Cook.
On his first voyage and stopped in Hawaii, he was the coolest
person in the universe and Hawaiians all loved him.

On his 2nd and last voyage he stopped in Hawaii again and was
a real dick and evil to the Hawaiians. They had every right
to kill him. He really deserved to die there.

On 6/21/2020 11:08 AM, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> The Hawaiians should have never done Cook like they did. After all, he was a rock star. Near as I can tell, he was Hawaii's first tourist death
>
> I have the good biography book of Cook.
> On his first voyage and stopped in Hawaii, he was the coolest
> person in the universe and Hawaiians all loved him.
>
> On his 2nd and last voyage he stopped in Hawaii again and was
> a real dick and evil to the Hawaiians. They had every right
> to kill him. He really deserved to die there.
>
Quite coincidentally, I just saw an old episode of 'Antiques Roadshow'
taped in Honolulu that included a rare print depicting the murder of
Captain Cook.

Jill

On 2020-06-18, ImStillMags > wrote:

> 4-5 slices of bacon

I like the idea of "bacon". I'll try it, next time.

I WILL put it on low heat after 4 hrs. though.

I found another smaller bottle of Baby Ray's bbq sauce. Half full,
but added some beer (Coors Banquet) and ketchup. Also added some
pwdrd garlic, sweet ginger, and red ppr. Got some WW house brand
slider buns (not as good as King Hawaiin).

Got NO liquid smoke but wouldn't use that much, anyway (unless it was
waaaaay better than the bottle I threw away. Like the "stove pipe" anology).

The last batch turned out, OK, but had potato salad and cole slaw to
go with it. Only got some fresh grn onions and hummus, this time.

Oh, and quinoa ain't bad, either. Better'n "rice".

nb

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 1:10:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:51:34 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:25:03 PM UTC-10, ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:21:39 PM UTC-7, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > > > > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> > > > > >> On 2020-06-17, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >>> Loin is very lean to make pulled pork. I'd use a butt or
> > > > > picnic and >>> roast the loin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> Yes, I know, Ed. But, I following Crock-Pot's intructions to
> > > > > the T.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> Even then, I didn't remove ALL the fat cap as instructed).
> > > > > Left a >> little fer flavor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> nb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm probably late to this party. But here's my favorite recipe
> > > > > > to do a crock pot pork butt. I use it for a lot of different
> > > > > > things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About a 3-4 lb pork butt - bone in is fine or not
> > > > > > 4-5 slices of bacon
> > > > > > 5-6 large cloves of garlic, chopped
> > > > > > 1 1/2 T. Black Hawaiian Lava Salt
> > > > > > 2 T. Liquid Smoke
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cut the raw bacon pieces in half and line the bottom of the
> > > > > > crock pot with them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chop the garlic and sprinkle over the bacon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a very fatty cut of pork so you will have lots of good
> > > > > > fat in the finished product. Or trim off as much fat as you
> > > > > > prefer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Poke holes in the pork butt and rub it well with the Black
> > > > > > Hawaiian salt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Place the pork butt fat side down (trim as much fat as you
> > > > > > like, your preference) on top of the bacon and garlic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sprinkle the Liquid Smoke over the pork butt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do not add any other liquid to the pot. Â You want the pork to
> > > > > > roast in the crock pot, not braise. Â It puts out enough of
> > > > > > it's own juices.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I cooked mine 10 hours on low because that's how long I was out
> > > > > > of the house at work, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can vary your cooking time and cook in the crockpot on
> > > > > > either hi or low depending on how much time you have.
> > > > > > Â Probably start out on hi and go to low after 4 hours. Â You
> > > > > > want it to be fall apart tender.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pull the pork apart and stir around in the crock pot to mix all
> > > > > > the juices and bacon and garlic around in the pork.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This pulled pork can be used in a myriad of ways€¦
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like to serve it initially with cole slaw and potato salad
> > > > > > like a good ol pulled pork dinner. Then I use it for carnitas
> > > > > > or tacos or burritos etc. You can mix the pulled pork with bbq
> > > > > > sauce and serve as pulled pork sandwiches, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 tablespoons of liquid smoke? I bet it tastes like an old
> > > > > stovepipe from a wood burning heater.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I reckon
> > > > > some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would
> > > > think. The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as
> > > > well. The next time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
> > >
> > > The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an important
> > > ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it since I was in
> > > high school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons or less. I nearly
> > > shit when I read the rfc post in the link below from way back in the
> > > day.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that it would be awful or anything. I do admit to
> > > being too timid to even imagine using 1/4 cup of the stuff. OTOH,
> > > Liquid Smoke is way too expensive to be spreading it all around town
> > > in such a promiscuous manner. OTOH, I should just pick up a gallon of
> > > the stuff from the restaurant supply company and go hog wild. I
> > > suppose I should try it at least once before I die - just so I'll
> > > know.
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....Xmx4/yE3tMfsoi
> > > PsJ
> >
> > Umm. she's long gone but that's not even remotely Kailua pork....
>
> Beat's the heck out of me how that recipe would turn out. I'm not sure what
> Kailua pork is, even though I was raised in Kailua.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx8BuBkucho
>
> ===
>
> You were raised there??? Wow you were very lucky. I won't even try to
> describe where I was raised))

It was a nice place back in the day. They did nice little town things like an annual picnic. They still do a 4th of July parade and fireworks show. OTOH, things have changed. The beach is about half as wide as it used to be in the 60's and Kailua has turned into tourist town. A lot of people are liking it because there's money to be made. As we all know, money changes everything.

I live in Kaneohe now. I don't much like going to Kailua anymore. Too much tourists.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 1:10:59 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:51:34 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:25:03 PM UTC-10, ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:21:39 PM UTC-7, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > > > > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, notbob wrote:
> > > > > >> On 2020-06-17, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >>> Loin is very lean to make pulled pork. I'd use a butt or
> > > > > picnic and >>> roast the loin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> Yes, I know, Ed. But, I following Crock-Pot's intructions to
> > > > > the T.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> Even then, I didn't remove ALL the fat cap as instructed).
> > > > > Left a >> little fer flavor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> nb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm probably late to this party. But here's my favorite recipe
> > > > > > to do a crock pot pork butt. I use it for a lot of different
> > > > > > things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About a 3-4 lb pork butt - bone in is fine or not
> > > > > > 4-5 slices of bacon
> > > > > > 5-6 large cloves of garlic, chopped
> > > > > > 1 1/2 T. Black Hawaiian Lava Salt
> > > > > > 2 T. Liquid Smoke
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cut the raw bacon pieces in half and line the bottom of the
> > > > > > crock pot with them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chop the garlic and sprinkle over the bacon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a very fatty cut of pork so you will have lots of good
> > > > > > fat in the finished product. Or trim off as much fat as you
> > > > > > prefer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Poke holes in the pork butt and rub it well with the Black
> > > > > > Hawaiian salt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Place the pork butt fat side down (trim as much fat as you
> > > > > > like, your preference) on top of the bacon and garlic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sprinkle the Liquid Smoke over the pork butt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do not add any other liquid to the pot. Â You want the pork to
> > > > > > roast in the crock pot, not braise. Â It puts out enough of
> > > > > > it's own juices.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I cooked mine 10 hours on low because that's how long I was out
> > > > > > of the house at work, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can vary your cooking time and cook in the crockpot on
> > > > > > either hi or low depending on how much time you have.
> > > > > > Â Probably start out on hi and go to low after 4 hours. Â You
> > > > > > want it to be fall apart tender.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pull the pork apart and stir around in the crock pot to mix all
> > > > > > the juices and bacon and garlic around in the pork.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This pulled pork can be used in a myriad of ways€¦
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like to serve it initially with cole slaw and potato salad
> > > > > > like a good ol pulled pork dinner. Then I use it for carnitas
> > > > > > or tacos or burritos etc. You can mix the pulled pork with bbq
> > > > > > sauce and serve as pulled pork sandwiches, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 tablespoons of liquid smoke? I bet it tastes like an old
> > > > > stovepipe from a wood burning heater.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I reckon
> > > > > some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would
> > > > think. The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as
> > > > well. The next time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
> > >
> > > The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an important
> > > ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it since I was in
> > > high school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons or less. I nearly
> > > shit when I read the rfc post in the link below from way back in the
> > > day.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that it would be awful or anything. I do admit to
> > > being too timid to even imagine using 1/4 cup of the stuff. OTOH,
> > > Liquid Smoke is way too expensive to be spreading it all around town
> > > in such a promiscuous manner. OTOH, I should just pick up a gallon of
> > > the stuff from the restaurant supply company and go hog wild. I
> > > suppose I should try it at least once before I die - just so I'll
> > > know.
> > >
> > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....Xmx4/yE3tMfsoi
> > > PsJ
> >
> > Umm. she's long gone but that's not even remotely Kailua pork....
>
> Beat's the heck out of me how that recipe would turn out. I'm not sure
> what
> Kailua pork is, even though I was raised in Kailua.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx8BuBkucho
>
> ===
>
> You were raised there??? Wow you were very lucky. I won't even try to
> describe where I was raised))

It was a nice place back in the day. They did nice little town things like
an annual picnic. They still do a 4th of July parade and fireworks show.
OTOH, things have changed. The beach is about half as wide as it used to be
in the 60's and Kailua has turned into tourist town. A lot of people are
liking it because there's money to be made. As we all know, money changes
everything.

I live in Kaneohe now. I don't much like going to Kailua anymore. Too much
tourists.

==

I hope you are happy where you all are now

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 08:58:20 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Anyway, I do like running outdoors (mainly along the
>boardwalk). You get fresh air and see many people
>and things. Running on a treadmill is the most boring
>thing to me, even if watching tv while you do it.

I don't run on a treadmill. I can see myself be catapulted through the
room if we have a power failure. Watching TV while I walk makes it
more interesting. Of course, that's assuming you watch interesting TV.

Dsl1said:

It was a nice place back in the day. They did nice little town things like an annual picnic. They still do a 4th of July parade and fireworks show. OTOH, things have changed. The beach is about half as wide as it used to be in the 60's and Kailua has turned into tourist town. A lot of people are liking it because there's money to be made. As we all know, money changes everything.

I live in Kaneohe now. I don't much like going to Kailua anymore. Too much tourists.

€”€”€”€”€”€”€”€”
Funny, we were in Kailua in August 2016. I
enjoyed it so much Sure there were tourists there but not so bad. I can understand, though, that
it may have looked different back in the day.

We had a great time there, drinking that Kona coffee, going to the lava beaches. I guess we
are what you dont like about it now.
Thats the breaks. J/k of course.

Nellie

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 12:39:25 PM UTC-10, Nellie wrote:
> Dsl1said:
>
> It was a nice place back in the day. They did nice little town things like an annual picnic. They still do a 4th of July parade and fireworks show. OTOH, things have changed. The beach is about half as wide as it used to be in the 60's and Kailua has turned into tourist town. A lot of people are liking it because there's money to be made. As we all know, money changes everything.
>
> I live in Kaneohe now. I don't much like going to Kailua anymore. Too much tourists.
>
> €”€”€”€”€”€”€”€”
> Funny, we were in Kailua in August 2016. I
> enjoyed it so much Sure there were tourists there but not so bad. I can understand, though, that
> it may have looked different back in the day.
>
> We had a great time there, drinking that Kona coffee, going to the lava beaches. I guess we
> are what you dont like about it now.
> Thats the breaks. J/k of course.
>
> Nellie

My guess is that you were in the wrong Kailua since we don't have any black sand beaches on my particular rock. You were probably there in the wrong time too because the tourists haven't been coming to Kailua for very long. Are you a really pale Japanese type person? My understanding is that Japan rock stars visit the restaurants and blog about it and their fans go to these restaurants. It's an interesting thing.

I try to avoid going to Waikiki because it's a tourist spot. These days I like to avoid going to Kailua. My guess is that the locals avoiding tourists spots is a fairly common and natural thing around the world. It's nothing personal.

As it goes, tourism has dropped to zero these days and it'll take years for this rock to get back on its feet so rest assured that we're gonna get whats coming to us.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...o-stay-afloat/

dsi1
- hide quoted text -
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 12:39:25 PM UTC-10, Nellie wrote:
> Dsl1said:
>
> It was a nice place back in the day. They did nice little town things like an annual picnic. They still do a 4th of July parade and fireworks show. OTOH, things have changed. The beach is about half as wide as it used to be in the 60's and Kailua has turned into tourist town. A lot of people are liking it because there's money to be made. As we all know, money changes everything.
>
> I live in Kaneohe now. I don't much like going to Kailua anymore. Too much tourists.
>
> €”€”€”€”€”€”€”€”
> Funny, we were in Kailua in August 2016. I
> enjoyed it so much Sure there were tourists there but not so bad. I can understand, though, that
> it may have looked different back in the day.
>
> We had a great time there, drinking that Kona coffee, going to the lava beaches. I guess we
> are what you dont like about it now.
> Thats the breaks. J/k of course.
>
> Nellie

My guess is that you were in the wrong Kailua since we don't have any black sand beaches on my particular rock. You were probably there in the wrong time too because the tourists haven't been coming to Kailua for very long. Are you a really pale Japanese type person? My understanding is that Japan rock stars visit the restaurants and blog about it and their fans go to these restaurants. It's an interesting thing.

I try to avoid going to Waikiki because it's a tourist spot. These days I like to avoid going to Kailua. My guess is that the locals avoiding tourists spots is a fairly common and natural thing around the world. It's nothing personal.

As it goes, tourism has dropped to zero these days and it'll take years for this rock to get back on its feet so rest assured that we're gonna get whats coming to us.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...o-stay-afloat/

€”€”€”€”€”€”€”€”

I wondered if there might be more than one.
We were at Kailua-Kona on the big island

I have been to your island and plan to go
again. Will check in on your Kailua.

Nellie

On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 4:14:15 PM UTC-10, Nellie wrote:
> dsi1
> - hide quoted text -
> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 12:39:25 PM UTC-10, Nellie wrote:
> > Dsl1said:
> >
> > It was a nice place back in the day. They did nice little town things like an annual picnic. They still do a 4th of July parade and fireworks show.. OTOH, things have changed. The beach is about half as wide as it used to be in the 60's and Kailua has turned into tourist town. A lot of people are liking it because there's money to be made. As we all know, money changes everything.
> >
> > I live in Kaneohe now. I don't much like going to Kailua anymore. Too much tourists.
> >
> > €”€”€”€”€”€”€”€”
> > Funny, we were in Kailua in August 2016. I
> > enjoyed it so much Sure there were tourists there but not so bad. I can understand, though, that
> > it may have looked different back in the day.
> >
> > We had a great time there, drinking that Kona coffee, going to the lava beaches. I guess we
> > are what you dont like about it now.
> > Thats the breaks. J/k of course.
> >
> > Nellie
>
> My guess is that you were in the wrong Kailua since we don't have any black sand beaches on my particular rock. You were probably there in the wrong time too because the tourists haven't been coming to Kailua for very long. Are you a really pale Japanese type person? My understanding is that Japan rock stars visit the restaurants and blog about it and their fans go to these restaurants. It's an interesting thing.
>
> I try to avoid going to Waikiki because it's a tourist spot. These days I like to avoid going to Kailua. My guess is that the locals avoiding tourists spots is a fairly common and natural thing around the world. It's nothing personal.
>
> As it goes, tourism has dropped to zero these days and it'll take years for this rock to get back on its feet so rest assured that we're gonna get whats coming to us.
>
> https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/...o-stay-afloat/
>
> €”€”€”€”€”€”€”€”
>
> I wondered if there might be more than one.
> We were at Kailua-Kona on the big island
>
> I have been to your island and plan to go
> again. Will check in on your Kailua.
>
> Nellie

Kailua is a different kind of place than Kailua-Kona. There's a lot of haoles living there and it's a younger, hipper, laid-back, population. There's also a lot of dogs. The place is ideal for raising dogs and kids. My guess is that my town, Kaneohe is a cat town.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...XNMF9LqnbtONlU

Gary wrote:

> cshenk wrote:
> >
> > 3. Running just flat out isn't fun. People who like it are crazy I
> > think.
>
> Hey, wait a minute!
>
>
> > To me it's always been 'have to do it to keep my job'.
> > Technically a run/jog first thing in the morning is best for
> > weightloss but no sane people really want to do that I think. But
> > what do I know?
>
> I agree with that. When I ran long distance, my favorite time
> was between 4pm-6pm, after I got home from work. I ran 6
> days a week. Each run was always 7 miles and occasionally
> 12 miles. Approx. 55 miles per week.

Charlotte's as well for the time. Not as far. It wasn't until my
outprocessing from the Navy at 26 years, they found why I'm a poor
runner. The condition would not have stopped me from a slow jog.

One part of my nose only allows 40% air intake and the other is at 60%.
Kinda messes you up for any real running.

> I never did like running in the morning though. Unfortunately,
> all the races I entered always started at 8am. That
> sucked.
>
> > I'm naturally very sedentary. She had to learn though. By the
> > time she hit the MEPS (inprocessing for military then you go delayed
> > entry and she was 148lbs) she was able to do 1 mile in 20 minutes.
> > Not a great speed but with a run every afternoon every other day,
> > she'd speed up naturally. (she eventually made her 1.5 mile run at
> > just under 14 minutes BTW).
>
> Although I've done better times on my own with stopwatch,
> (Timex Trialathon watch), my best "official race" time was
> my very first race. The Shamrock 8K (5 miles) race held
> here every March.

Well, at her leg length, it was a pretty good time for 1.5 miles.

> I quit smoking at age 35 and started running in July then
> entered that race 8 months later. As I had no idea what
> was a good time, I almost didn't sign up for it, thinking
> I might come in way last even racing against very old
> runners.
>
> But I did sign up and I did very well. I came in with the
> top 8% of all runners. No trophy but surprisingly good.
> It was 32:30 for 5 miles. That's 6:46 per minute average.

Outstanding!

> That's verifiable too for the few that think I lie.
> It's on record. I can provide a scan of the race results
> or tell you the year to look up.
>
> Anyway, I do like running outdoors (mainly along the
> boardwalk). You get fresh air and see many people
> and things. Running on a treadmill is the most boring
> thing to me, even if watching tv while you do it.

I kinda like stationary bikes.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2020-06-20 6:17 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
>
> > > When you need a new tire, do you make your own or do you
> > > just buy an industrial tire from the store?
> >
> > It is actually simple to make your own mushroom soup, but I don't
> > recommend it when you need to get dinner on the table within 1 hour
> > of start time to serve. Oh the soup would be ready, but not in
> > time to add to other things.
> >
>
>
> I should try making it some time. I was fed a lot of Campbells'
> Cream of Mushroom soup when I was a kid. I ate it, but I was never a
> big fan of it. Years later I worked in a camp where the cook was
> pretty good at making soups to use up leftovers. One day he made
> cream of mushroom soup and it was amazing. I have since had it in a
> few restaurants and liked it. Now there is just the little problem of
> my wife not being interested in mushrooms.

I figured it out from a she-crab recipe.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:51:34 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:25:03 PM UTC-10, ImStillMags
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:21:39 PM UTC-7, Hank Rogers
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > ImStillMags wrote:
> > > > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, notbob
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> On 2020-06-17, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >>> Loin is very lean to make pulled pork. I'd use a butt or
> > > > > picnic and >>> roast the loin.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> Yes, I know, Ed. But, I following Crock-Pot's intructions
> > > > > to the T.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> Even then, I didn't remove ALL the fat cap as instructed).
> > > > > Left a >> little fer flavor.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >> nb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm probably late to this party. But here's my favorite
> > > > > > recipe to do a crock pot pork butt. I use it for a lot of
> > > > > > different things.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > About a 3-4 lb pork butt - bone in is fine or not
> > > > > > 4-5 slices of bacon
> > > > > > 5-6 large cloves of garlic, chopped
> > > > > > 1 1/2 T. Black Hawaiian Lava Salt
> > > > > > 2 T. Liquid Smoke
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cut the raw bacon pieces in half and line the bottom of the
> > > > > > crock pot with them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chop the garlic and sprinkle over the bacon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a very fatty cut of pork so you will have lots of
> > > > > > good fat in the finished product. Or trim off as much fat
> > > > > > as you prefer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Poke holes in the pork butt and rub it well with the Black
> > > > > > Hawaiian salt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Place the pork butt fat side down (trim as much fat as you
> > > > > > like, your preference) on top of the bacon and garlic.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sprinkle the Liquid Smoke over the pork butt.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do not add any other liquid to the pot. ÂÂ*You want the pork
> > > > > > to roast in the crock pot, not braise. ÂÂ* It puts out
> > > > > > enough of it's own juices.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I cooked mine 10 hours on low because that's how long I was
> > > > > > out of the house at work, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can vary your cooking time and cook in the crockpot on
> > > > > > either hi or low depending on how much time you have.
> > > > > > ÂÂ*Probably start out on hi and go to low after 4 hours.
> > > > > > ÂÂ*You want it to be fall apart tender.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pull the pork apart and stir around in the crock pot to mix
> > > > > > all the juices and bacon and garlic around in the pork.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This pulled pork can be used in a myriad of ways€¦
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I like to serve it initially with cole slaw and potato salad
> > > > > > like a good ol pulled pork dinner. Then I use it for
> > > > > > carnitas or tacos or burritos etc. You can mix the pulled
> > > > > > pork with bbq sauce and serve as pulled pork sandwiches,
> > > > > > etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 tablespoons of liquid smoke? I bet it tastes like an old
> > > > > stovepipe from a wood burning heater.
> > > > >
> > > > > I like just enough smoke flavor to taste it's there, but I
> > > > > reckon some folks do like a stronger smoke flavor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > actually, it doesn't take on as much smoke flavor as you would
> > > > think. The first time I made it I thought 2 T was too much as
> > > > well. The next time I used the 2 T and it was just right.
> > >
> > > The people on this rock need Liquid Smoke because it's an
> > > important ingredient of oven kalua pork. I've been making it
> > > since I was in high school. Mostly, I use a couple of teaspoons
> > > or less. I nearly shit when I read the rfc post in the link below
> > > from way back in the day.
> > >
> > > I'm not saying that it would be awful or anything. I do admit to
> > > being too timid to even imagine using 1/4 cup of the stuff. OTOH,
> > > Liquid Smoke is way too expensive to be spreading it all around
> > > town in such a promiscuous manner. OTOH, I should just pick up a
> > > gallon of the stuff from the restaurant supply company and go hog
> > > wild. I suppose I should try it at least once before I die - just
> > > so I'll know.
> > >
> > >
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....Xmx4/yE3tMfsoi
> > > PsJ
> >
> > Umm. she's long gone but that's not even remotely Kailua pork....
>
> Beat's the heck out of me how that recipe would turn out. I'm not
> sure what Kailua pork is, even though I was raised in Kailua.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx8BuBkucho

https://www.pineappleandcoconut.com/...er-kalua-pork/

On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:13:51 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>
>> cshenk wrote:
>> >
>> > 3. Running just flat out isn't fun. People who like it are crazy I
>> > think.
>>
>> Hey, wait a minute!
>>
>> > To me it's always been 'have to do it to keep my job'.
>> > Technically a run/jog first thing in the morning is best for
>> > weightloss but no sane people really want to do that I think. But
>> > what do I know?
>>
>> I agree with that. When I ran long distance, my favorite time
>> was between 4pm-6pm, after I got home from work. I ran 6
>> days a week. Each run was always 7 miles and occasionally
>> 12 miles. Approx. 55 miles per week.
>
>Charlotte's as well for the time. Not as far. It wasn't until my
>outprocessing from the Navy at 26 years, they found why I'm a poor
>runner. The condition would not have stopped me from a slow jog.

dsi1's Hawaii is cshenk's Navy.

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 17:13:51 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> Gary wrote:
>>
>>> cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 3. Running just flat out isn't fun. People who like it are crazy I
>>>> think.
>>>
>>> Hey, wait a minute!
>>>
>>>> To me it's always been 'have to do it to keep my job'.
>>>> Technically a run/jog first thing in the morning is best for
>>>> weightloss but no sane people really want to do that I think. But
>>>> what do I know?
>>>
>>> I agree with that. When I ran long distance, my favorite time
>>> was between 4pm-6pm, after I got home from work. I ran 6
>>> days a week. Each run was always 7 miles and occasionally
>>> 12 miles. Approx. 55 miles per week.
>>
>> Charlotte's as well for the time. Not as far. It wasn't until my
>> outprocessing from the Navy at 26 years, they found why I'm a poor
>> runner. The condition would not have stopped me from a slow jog.
>
> dsi1's Hawaii is cshenk's Navy.
>

Yoose forgot to <SNIFF> Gary!