On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:37:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>>
>> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
>>
>
>We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
>good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
>stereotypes and not move on.

Yup, you're a racist.

On 6/18/2020 10:20 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:37:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>>>
>>> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
>>>
>>
>> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
>> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
>> stereotypes and not move on.
>
> Yup, you're a racist.
>
Your sad opinion. Because of my house cleaning comment? When I was
looking to make a few extra bucks I washed windows. Slave wages? I pay
my cleaning lady 33% more per hour than a nurse we know here.

I also have Uncle Ben's rice in my pantry. He makes good stuff and
should be proud of it.

Your virtue signaling leads me to think you are more racist than my real
life record shows.

On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:37:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>> Is nothing sacred?* After 130 years an old friend is gone.* We grew up
>>>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
>>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good
>>>>>>> breakfast.* IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an
>>>>>>> Aunt like her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to be
>>>>>> offended.* Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
>>>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and simply
>>>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
>>>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their spokespeople for
>>>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they will
>>>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them. It
>>>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
>>>>
>>>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a little. In fact, that would be awesome!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
>>> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are honoring
>>> the guy, not disparaging him.
>>>
>>> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
>>> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower known
>>> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who had
>>> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name Uncle
>>> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
>>
>> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
>>
>
>We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
>good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
>stereotypes and not move on.

My mother had a youngish (20s) Italian lady who did the heavy cleaning
once a week. Gracie spoke very little English but enough to get by.
She also had pierced ear earings which amazed me... back then
immigrant girls from Europe had pierced ears... at five years old I
wondered if it hurt. Growing up in Brooklyn I was accustomed to every
ethnicity, religion, and skin color... took me into my early twenties,
in the Navy, before I realized that people could be so prejudiced and
hateful... in the Navy I encountered people from every state and small
town, many were extremely hateful and prejudiced. Skin color never
phases me, I enjoy every color bozoms equally.

On 6/18/2020 8:54 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:37:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is nothing sacred?Â* After 130 years an old friend is gone.Â* We grew up
>>>>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
>>>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good
>>>>>>>> breakfast.Â* IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an
>>>>>>>> Aunt like her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to be
>>>>>>> offended.Â* Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
>>>>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and simply
>>>>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
>>>>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their spokespeople for
>>>>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they will
>>>>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them. It
>>>>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
>>>>>
>>>>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a little. In fact, that would be awesome!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
>>>> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are honoring
>>>> the guy, not disparaging him.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
>>>> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower known
>>>> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who had
>>>> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name Uncle
>>>> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
>>>
>>> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
>>>
>>
>> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
>> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
>> stereotypes and not move on.
>
> My mother had a youngish (20s) Italian lady who did the heavy cleaning
> once a week. Gracie spoke very little English but enough to get by.
> She also had pierced ear earings which amazed me... back then
> immigrant girls from Europe had pierced ears... at five years old I
> wondered if it hurt. Growing up in Brooklyn I was accustomed to every
> ethnicity, religion, and skin color... took me into my early twenties,
> in the Navy, before I realized that people could be so prejudiced and
> hateful... in the Navy I encountered people from every state and small
> town, many were extremely hateful and prejudiced. Skin color never
> phases me, I enjoy every color bozoms equally.
>
rainbow bozoms?

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 22:37:01 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>> Is nothing sacred?* After 130 years an old friend is gone.* We grew up
>>>>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
>>>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good
>>>>>>>> breakfast.* IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an
>>>>>>>> Aunt like her.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to be
>>>>>>> offended.* Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
>>>>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and simply
>>>>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
>>>>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their spokespeople for
>>>>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they will
>>>>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them. It
>>>>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
>>>>>
>>>>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a little. In fact, that would be awesome!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
>>>> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are honoring
>>>> the guy, not disparaging him.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
>>>> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower known
>>>> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who had
>>>> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name Uncle
>>>> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
>>>
>>> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
>>>
>>
>> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
>> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
>> stereotypes and not move on.
>
> My mother had a youngish (20s) Italian lady who did the heavy cleaning
> once a week. Gracie spoke very little English but enough to get by.
> She also had pierced ear earings which amazed me... back then
> immigrant girls from Europe had pierced ears... at five years old I
> wondered if it hurt.
>

Popeye, I bet yoose humped Gracie in the broom closet, right?

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 2:58:41 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 6:23:19 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > > > We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos. Now that's some damn good eats.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
> > >
> > > Are the chips corn or wheat?
> > >
> > > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > They are wonton pi sheets so they're are flour and egg pasta. The sheets are cut in half and deep fried.
>
> Oh, good. Corn chips didn't sound like they'd go well at all with ahi
> poke. I'd eat those ahi poke nachos in a Kaneohe minute (appreciably more
> leisurely than a New York minute).
>
> I should have asked earlier:
> What are the yellow things that Bruce identified as corn? They look too
> oblong to be corn.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

There's not too much to it. Avocados, ahi, onions, tomatoes, green onion, furukaki, and a shoyu, sugar, and vinegar, sauce. It was quite a refreshing plate of "nachos." There was no corn it in.

writes:
>On 6/17/2020 6:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 6/17/2020 1:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2020-06-17 1:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Is nothing sacred?A After 130 years an old friend is gone.A We grew
>>>>> up with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
>>>>> good breakfast.A IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
>>>>> had an Aunt like her.
>>>>
>>>> The call her "aunt" but she's not really your auntie. She'd be your
>>>> mammy - a low-paid hired help that raised you from a baby. That
>>>> concept is a pretty weird one in this day and age. Perhaps they can
>>>> change her into a nice white lady. Then she'd be like a real aunt.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure. It could be a white lady. That would be the cue for people to
>>> complain that black people are under represented in public images. In
>>> Canada the low paid nanny that is making pancakes for breakfast for
>>> little kids would be more likely to be Filipino.
>>
>> Thing is, Aunt Jemima is syrup and boxed pancake mix.A A marketing
>> concept which underwent a lot of changes through the 131 year history,
>> according to the article in the New York Times:
>>
>> "In magazine advertisements throughout much of the 20th century, the
>> character was shown serving white families. Aunt Jemima went through
>> several redesigns over the decades. In 1989, Quaker Oats substantially
>> revised the charactera s look, adding pearl earrings and a lace collar."
>>
>> I do not understand why her drawn image is suddenly a horrific insult to
>> anyone.A It's *marketing*.A Same thing with Uncle Ben, who apparently
>> lent his image and his name to sell his own brand of rice.A He was a
>> real person who made money as a result.A Would he be happy to see his
>> face taken off those boxes of rice?
>>
>> Jill
>
>There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
>people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
>kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>
>Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.

The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.

<https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>

gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred?Â* After 130 years an old friend is gone.Â* We grew up
> >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
> >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good
> >> >>>>>> breakfast.Â* IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an
> >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to be
> >> >>>>> offended.Â* Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
> >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and simply
> >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
> >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their spokespeople for
> >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they will
> >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them.. It
> >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a
> little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
> >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are honoring
> >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower known
> >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who had
> >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name Uncle
> >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general public.
> >> >
> >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and
> societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a good thing.
> >> >
> >>
> >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
> >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
> >> stereotypes and not move on.
> >
> >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys on this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
>
> A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
>
> That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.

Breaking news: My daughter bought some chocolate covered marshmallows at the Foodland supermarket. They were in the shape of turtles and are called "Honu Shaped Marshmallows." They were sold under the Maika'i house brand. She was upset to learn that they were not made on this rock. These little guys were made in France and quite tasty, by the way. I think this is a valuable lesson for her in the business of selling merchandise. Now I got to find out what she's got against France.

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 7:30:05 AM UTC-10, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
> >On 6/17/2020 6:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2020 1:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>> On 2020-06-17 1:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> >>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Is nothing sacred?A After 130 years an old friend is gone.A We grew
> >>>>> up with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
> >>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
> >>>>> good breakfast.A IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
> >>>>> had an Aunt like her.
> >>>>
> >>>> The call her "aunt" but she's not really your auntie. She'd be your
> >>>> mammy - a low-paid hired help that raised you from a baby. That
> >>>> concept is a pretty weird one in this day and age. Perhaps they can
> >>>> change her into a nice white lady. Then she'd be like a real aunt.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Sure. It could be a white lady. That would be the cue for people to
> >>> complain that black people are under represented in public images. In
> >>> Canada the low paid nanny that is making pancakes for breakfast for
> >>> little kids would be more likely to be Filipino.
> >>
> >> Thing is, Aunt Jemima is syrup and boxed pancake mix.A A marketing
> >> concept which underwent a lot of changes through the 131 year history,
> >> according to the article in the New York Times:
> >>
> >> "In magazine advertisements throughout much of the 20th century, the
> >> character was shown serving white families. Aunt Jemima went through
> >> several redesigns over the decades. In 1989, Quaker Oats substantially
> >> revised the charactera s look, adding pearl earrings and a lace collar."
> >>
> >> I do not understand why her drawn image is suddenly a horrific insult to
> >> anyone.A It's *marketing*.A Same thing with Uncle Ben, who apparently
> >> lent his image and his name to sell his own brand of rice.A He was a
> >> real person who made money as a result.A Would he be happy to see his
> >> face taken off those boxes of rice?
> >>
> >> Jill
> >
> >There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
> >people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
> >kitchen help, not so much the updated.
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
> >
> >Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
> >working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>
> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>
> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>
> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more

There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear.

tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On 6/17/2020 6:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 6/17/2020 1:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-06-17 1:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is nothing sacred?A After 130 years an old friend is gone.A We grew
>>>>>> up with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
>>>>>> good breakfast.A IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
>>>>>> had an Aunt like her.
>>>>>
>>>>> The call her "aunt" but she's not really your auntie. She'd be your
>>>>> mammy - a low-paid hired help that raised you from a baby. That
>>>>> concept is a pretty weird one in this day and age. Perhaps they can
>>>>> change her into a nice white lady. Then she'd be like a real aunt.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure. It could be a white lady. That would be the cue for people to
>>>> complain that black people are under represented in public images. In
>>>> Canada the low paid nanny that is making pancakes for breakfast for
>>>> little kids would be more likely to be Filipino.
>>>
>>> Thing is, Aunt Jemima is syrup and boxed pancake mix.A A marketing
>>> concept which underwent a lot of changes through the 131 year history,
>>> according to the article in the New York Times:
>>>
>>> "In magazine advertisements throughout much of the 20th century, the
>>> character was shown serving white families. Aunt Jemima went through
>>> several redesigns over the decades. In 1989, Quaker Oats substantially
>>> revised the charactera s look, adding pearl earrings and a lace collar."
>>>
>>> I do not understand why her drawn image is suddenly a horrific insult to
>>> anyone.A It's *marketing*.A Same thing with Uncle Ben, who apparently
>>> lent his image and his name to sell his own brand of rice.A He was a
>>> real person who made money as a result.A Would he be happy to see his
>>> face taken off those boxes of rice?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
>> people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>>
>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>
> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>
> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>
> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>
>

Thank God Colonel Sanders was white!

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:15:58 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:44:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > On 6/17/2020 1:01 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone. We grew
> > >> up
> > >> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > >>
> > >> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
> > >> just
> > >> a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a good
> > >> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone had an
> > >> Aunt like her.
> > >
> > > The call her "aunt" but she's not really your auntie. She'd be your
> > > mammy - a low-paid hired help that raised you from a baby. That
> > > concept
> > > is a pretty weird one in this day and age. Perhaps they can change her
> > > into a nice white lady. Then she'd be like a real aunt.
> > >
> >
> > No, she is not my Aunt but no different that the Hawaiian Uncle.
> >
> > Growing up, as a toddler our neighbor had a helper a few days a week,
> > Miss Beulah. She looked much like the old Aunt Jemima and sometimes she
> > made us lunch or a snack. We just thought she was a nice lady that
> > looked after a half dozen of us that played together. Color made no
> > difference.
>
> On this rock, people that are older than you are called "aunty" or
> "uncle."
> They're not usually paid to raise the kids, though. Extended families are
> common so it's usually the grandparents that help raise the grand-kids.
> The
> most famous auntie on this rock is Aunty Genoa Keawe.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb-E78ItDo4
>
> ==
>
> Awww lovely ))

Aunty Genoa Keawe's legacy lives on in the younger generation. This guy is
singing one of her signature falsetto meles. It's quite a wonderful thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvm08mtVJ0A

===

WOW )))

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone. We
> >> >>>>>> grew up
> >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she
> >> >>>>>> was
> >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
> >> >>>>>> good
> >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
> >> >>>>>> had an
> >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to
> >> >>>>> be
> >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
> >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and
> >> >>>>> simply
> >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
> >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they
> >> >>>>> will
> >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them.
> >> >>>> It
> >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
> >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is
> >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her
> >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable
> >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a
> little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
> >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> >> >> honoring
> >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
> >> >> known
> >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who
> >> >> had
> >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name
> >> >> Uncle
> >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
> >> >> public.
> >> >
> >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave
> >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's
> >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and
> societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a
> good thing.
> >> >
> >>
> >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
> >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
> >> stereotypes and not move on.
> >
> >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
> >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys on
> >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
> >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh
> >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
>
> A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
>
> That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.

My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.

We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos. Now
that's some damn good eats.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj

===

I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
good))) What did you have?

On 6/18/2020 1:28 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On 6/17/2020 6:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 6/17/2020 1:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-06-17 1:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is nothing sacred?A After 130 years an old friend is gone.A We grew
>>>>>> up with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
>>>>>> good breakfast.A IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
>>>>>> had an Aunt like her.
>>>>>
>>>>> The call her "aunt" but she's not really your auntie. She'd be your
>>>>> mammy - a low-paid hired help that raised you from a baby. That
>>>>> concept is a pretty weird one in this day and age. Perhaps they can
>>>>> change her into a nice white lady. Then she'd be like a real aunt.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure. It could be a white lady. That would be the cue for people to
>>>> complain that black people are under represented in public images. In
>>>> Canada the low paid nanny that is making pancakes for breakfast for
>>>> little kids would be more likely to be Filipino.
>>>
>>> Thing is, Aunt Jemima is syrup and boxed pancake mix.A A marketing
>>> concept which underwent a lot of changes through the 131 year history,
>>> according to the article in the New York Times:
>>>
>>> "In magazine advertisements throughout much of the 20th century, the
>>> character was shown serving white families. Aunt Jemima went through
>>> several redesigns over the decades. In 1989, Quaker Oats substantially
>>> revised the charactera s look, adding pearl earrings and a lace collar."
>>>
>>> I do not understand why her drawn image is suddenly a horrific insult to
>>> anyone.A It's *marketing*.A Same thing with Uncle Ben, who apparently
>>> lent his image and his name to sell his own brand of rice.A He was a
>>> real person who made money as a result.A Would he be happy to see his
>>> face taken off those boxes of rice?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
>> people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>>
>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>
> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>
> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>
> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>
>
That nice old lady was a comforting figure for decades. I don't see
that as racists but a plus. You can make it racists though. Is it any
worse than having Michael Jordan selling sneakers? Or Tom Sellick
selling revers mortgages? Or any other celebrity hawking of a product.

Pandering is what it is, everyone wants to jump on the pandering
bandwagon.

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:09:22 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Your sad opinion. Because of my house cleaning comment? When I was
> looking to make a few extra bucks I washed windows. Slave wages? I pay
> my cleaning lady 33% more per hour than a nurse we know here.
>
Maybe she can't afford to hire a house cleaner but no need for her to get
bent out of shape because you can. I don't know about other places but
most of the house cleaners here are white folks. And they bring in some
big bucks for their services. It's a very lucrative business here but
I'm not sure how they've fared since the shutdown and so many folks not
working and can't afford them now.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 2:58:41 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 6:23:19 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> > They are wonton pi sheets so they're are flour and egg pasta. The sheets are cut in half and deep fried.
>>
>> Oh, good. Corn chips didn't sound like they'd go well at all with ahi
>> poke. I'd eat those ahi poke nachos in a Kaneohe minute (appreciably more
>> leisurely than a New York minute).
>>
>> I should have asked earlier:
>> What are the yellow things that Bruce identified as corn? They look too
>> oblong to be corn.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>There's not too much to it. Avocados, ahi, onions, tomatoes, green onion, furukaki, and a shoyu, sugar, and vinegar, sauce. It was quite a refreshing plate of "nachos." There was no corn it in.

That's because you're not from the mainland of course.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:31:58 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>tert in seattle wrote:
>> writes:
>>>
>>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
>>> people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
>>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>>>
>>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>>
>> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>>
>> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>>
>> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
>> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>>
>>
>
>Thank God Colonel Sanders was white!

Colonels are military. Do you know what the military have done to
people of colour over the centuries? Down with the Colonel!

I wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:31:58 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
>
> >tert in seattle wrote:
> >> writes:
> >>>
> >>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
> >>> people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
> >>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
> >>>
> >>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
> >>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
> >>
> >> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
> >>
> >> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
> >>
> >> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
> >> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Thank God Colonel Sanders was white!
>
> Colonels are military. Do you know what the military have done to
> people of colour over the centuries? Down with the Colonel!


But I do so love the "kernels" that spew out me arse after eating a big load of corn on the cob. My brown stools are studded with yellow "polka dots", very scenic!

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear.

That's B.S.

And it's Stills a good song, for what it's worth.

--
Silvar Beitel

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 11:33:07 AM UTC-10, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 2:25:00 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear.
>
> That's B.S.
>
> And it's Stills a good song, for what it's worth.
>
> --
> Silvar Beitel

Why yes, good one!

I saw Mr. Stills when he came to Honolulu. I believe he opened for Chicago. Boy, what a dinosaur I am!

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/18/2020 1:28 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> writes:
>>> On 6/17/2020 6:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/2020 1:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2020-06-17 1:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Is nothing sacred?A* After 130 years an old friend is
>>>>>>> gone.A* We grew
>>>>>>> up with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
>>>>>>> she was
>>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> good breakfast.A* IMO, the world would be a better place if
>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>> had an Aunt like her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The call her "aunt" but she's not really your auntie. She'd
>>>>>> be your
>>>>>> mammy - a low-paid hired help that raised you from a baby. That
>>>>>> concept is a pretty weird one in this day and age. Perhaps
>>>>>> they can
>>>>>> change her into a nice white lady. Then she'd be like a real
>>>>>> aunt.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure. It could be a white lady. That would be the cue for
>>>>> people to
>>>>> complain that black people are under represented in public
>>>>> images. In
>>>>> Canada the low paid nanny that is making pancakes for
>>>>> breakfast for
>>>>> little kids would be more likely to be Filipino.
>>>>
>>>> Thing is, Aunt Jemima is syrup and boxed pancake mix.A* A
>>>> marketing
>>>> concept which underwent a lot of changes through the 131 year
>>>> history,
>>>> according to the article in the New York Times:
>>>>
>>>> "In magazine advertisements throughout much of the 20th
>>>> century, the
>>>> character was shown serving white families. Aunt Jemima went
>>>> through
>>>> several redesigns over the decades. In 1989, Quaker Oats
>>>> substantially
>>>> revised the charactera* s look, adding pearl earrings and a
>>>> lace collar."
>>>>
>>>> I do not understand why her drawn image is suddenly a horrific
>>>> insult to
>>>> anyone.A* It's *marketing*.A* Same thing with Uncle Ben, who
>>>> apparently
>>>> lent his image and his name to sell his own brand of rice.A* He
>>>> was a
>>>> real person who made money as a result.A* Would he be happy to
>>>> see his
>>>> face taken off those boxes of rice?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be
>>> used by
>>> people of other countries too.* The original drawings did depict
>>> her as
>>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>>>
>>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him.* He was a hard
>>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>>
>> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>>
>> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>>
>>
>> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
>> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>>
> That nice old lady was a comforting figure for decades.* I don't
> see that as racists but a plus.* You can make it racists though.
> Is it any worse than having Michael Jordan selling sneakers?* Or
> Tom Sellick selling revers mortgages?* Or any other celebrity
> hawking of a product.
>
> Pandering is what it is, everyone wants to jump on the pandering
> bandwagon.

Some of de chilluns just want to take the opportunity to steal some
mo shit.

They'll go back home to mammy after they've burned de town down,
and run out of dope.

Lawsy ... always turns out dis way.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:31:58 -0500, Hank Rogers >
> wrote:
>
>> tert in seattle wrote:
>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
>>>> people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
>>>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>>>>
>>>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>>>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>>>
>>> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>>>
>>> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>>>
>>> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
>>> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thank God Colonel Sanders was white!
>
> Colonels are military. Do you know what the military have done to
> people of colour over the centuries? Down with the Colonel!
>

YAAAY Down with dutch cocksuckers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**** DRUCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bruce wrote:
> I wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 13:31:58 -0500, Hank Rogers >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> tert in seattle wrote:
>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
>>>>> people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
>>>>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>>>>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>>>>
>>>> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>>>>
>>>> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>>>>
>>>> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
>>>> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thank God Colonel Sanders was white!
>>
>> Colonels are military. Do you know what the military have done to
>> people of colour over the centuries? Down with the Colonel!
>
>
> But I do so love the "kernels" that spew out me arse after eating a big load of corn on the cob. My brown stools are studded with yellow "polka dots", very scenic!
>

Roll over man ... Popeye will soon be felching that stuff out of
your ass. And Druce will come to sniff the whole event. He'll whine
a lot, but nary an asshole will go unsniffed.

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > >> >>> wrote:
> > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone. We
> > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she
> > >> >>>>>> was
> > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
> > >> >>>>>> good
> > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
> > >> >>>>>> had an
> > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to
> > >> >>>>> be
> > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
> > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and
> > >> >>>>> simply
> > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
> > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they
> > >> >>>>> will
> > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them.
> > >> >>>> It
> > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
> > >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is
> > >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her
> > >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable
> > >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a
> > little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
> > >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> > >> >> honoring
> > >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> > >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
> > >> >> known
> > >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who
> > >> >> had
> > >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name
> > >> >> Uncle
> > >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
> > >> >> public.
> > >> >
> > >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave
> > >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's
> > >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> > >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> > >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and
> > societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a
> > good thing.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
> > >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
> > >> stereotypes and not move on.
> > >
> > >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
> > >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys on
> > >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
> > >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh
> > >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> > >
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
> >
> > A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> > elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
> >
> > That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
>
> My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
> elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
>
> We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos. Now
> that's some damn good eats.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
>
> ===
>
> I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
> good))) What did you have?

I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave me a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that the waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard. Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick. The hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big table and eat.

dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone. We
>>>>>>>>>>> grew up
>>>>>>>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
>>>>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
>>>>>>>>>>> had an
>>>>>>>>>>> Aunt like her.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
>>>>>>>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and
>>>>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
>>>>>>>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
>>>>>>>>>> spokespeople for
>>>>>>>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they
>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
>>>>>>>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is
>>>>>>>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her
>>>>>>>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable
>>>>>>>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a
>>> little. In fact, that would be awesome!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
>>>>>>> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
>>>>>>> honoring
>>>>>>> the guy, not disparaging him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
>>>>>>> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name
>>>>>>> Uncle
>>>>>>> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
>>>>>>> public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave
>>>>>> wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's
>>>>>> kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
>>>>>> picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
>>>>>> generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and
>>> societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a
>>> good thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
>>>>> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
>>>>> stereotypes and not move on.
>>>>
>>>> It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
>>>> vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys on
>>>> this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
>>>> people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh
>>>> well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
>>>
>>> A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
>>> elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
>>>
>>> That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
>>
>> My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
>> elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
>>
>> We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos. Now
>> that's some damn good eats.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
>>
>> ===
>>
>> I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
>> good))) What did you have?
>
> I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave me a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that the waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard. Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick. The hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big table and eat.
>

How exciting.

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 5:53:21 PM UTC-10, Hank Rogers wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> >> "dsi1" wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>
> >> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone. We
> >>>>>>>>>>> grew up
> >>>>>>>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she
> >>>>>>>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
> >>>>>>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
> >>>>>>>>>>> had an
> >>>>>>>>>>> Aunt like her.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need to
> >>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
> >>>>>>>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and
> >>>>>>>>>> simply
> >>>>>>>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar face.
> >>>>>>>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> >>>>>>>>>> spokespeople for
> >>>>>>>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then they
> >>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in them.
> >>>>>>>>> It
> >>>>>>>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
> >>>>>>>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is
> >>>>>>>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her
> >>>>>>>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be agreeable
> >>>>>>>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a
> >>> little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a rice
> >>>>>>> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> >>>>>>> honoring
> >>>>>>> the guy, not disparaging him.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> >>>>>>> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
> >>>>>>> known
> >>>>>>> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur who
> >>>>>>> had
> >>>>>>> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name
> >>>>>>> Uncle
> >>>>>>> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
> >>>>>>> public.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave
> >>>>>> wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's
> >>>>>> kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> >>>>>> picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> >>>>>> generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and
> >>> societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a
> >>> good thing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
> >>>>> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
> >>>>> stereotypes and not move on.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
> >>>> vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys on
> >>>> this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
> >>>> people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh
> >>>> well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
> >>>
> >>> A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> >>> elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
> >>>
> >>> That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
> >>
> >> My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
> >> elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
> >>
> >> We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos. Now
> >> that's some damn good eats.
> >>
> >> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
> >>
> >> ===
> >>
> >> I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
> >> good))) What did you have?
> >
> > I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave me a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that the waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard. Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick. The hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big table and eat.
> >
>
> How exciting.

That wasn't exciting at all - this is exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVq_QSSBB_o

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > >> >>> wrote:
> > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone. We
> > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
> > >> >>>>>> she
> > >> >>>>>> was
> > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have
> > >> >>>>>> a
> > >> >>>>>> good
> > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
> > >> >>>>>> had an
> > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need
> > >> >>>>> to
> > >> >>>>> be
> > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
> > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and
> > >> >>>>> simply
> > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
> > >> >>>>> face.
> > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
> > >> >>>>> they
> > >> >>>>> will
> > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in
> > >> >>>> them.
> > >> >>>> It
> > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
> > >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle is
> > >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway. Her
> > >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be
> > >> >>> agreeable
> > >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle a
> > little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a
> > >> >> rice
> > >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> > >> >> honoring
> > >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> > >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
> > >> >> known
> > >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur
> > >> >> who
> > >> >> had
> > >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the name
> > >> >> Uncle
> > >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
> > >> >> public.
> > >> >
> > >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for slave
> > >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other people's
> > >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> > >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> > >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic and
> > societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is a
> > good thing.
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a very
> > >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with old
> > >> stereotypes and not move on.
> > >
> > >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
> > >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys
> > >on
> > >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
> > >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh
> > >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> > >
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
> >
> > A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> > elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
> >
> > That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
>
> My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
> elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
>
> We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos. Now
> that's some damn good eats.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
>
> ===
>
> I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
> good))) What did you have?

I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave me
a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that the
waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard.
Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something
cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick. The
hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big
table and eat.

===

Ahh yes! Your restaurants and cafes have been closed too?? Ours still
are!

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:42:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > >> >>> wrote:
> > > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone. We
> > > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
> > > >> >>>>>> she
> > > >> >>>>>> was
> > > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have
> > > >> >>>>>> a
> > > >> >>>>>> good
> > > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
> > > >> >>>>>> had an
> > > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need
> > > >> >>>>> to
> > > >> >>>>> be
> > > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have that
> > > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago and
> > > >> >>>>> simply
> > > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
> > > >> >>>>> face.
> > > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
> > > >> >>>>> they
> > > >> >>>>> will
> > > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial placement.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:42:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > >> >>> wrote:
> > > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone.
> > > >> >>>>>> We
> > > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > > >> >>>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
> > > >> >>>>>> she
> > > >> >>>>>> was
> > > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to
> > > >> >>>>>> have
> > > >> >>>>>> a
> > > >> >>>>>> good
> > > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if
> > > >> >>>>>> everyone
> > > >> >>>>>> had an
> > > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need
> > > >> >>>>> to
> > > >> >>>>> be
> > > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have
> > > >> >>>>> that
> > > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago
> > > >> >>>>> and
> > > >> >>>>> simply
> > > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
> > > >> >>>>> face.
> > > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
> > > >> >>>>> they
> > > >> >>>>> will
> > > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial
> > > >> >>>>> placement.
> > > >> >>>>>
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in
> > > >> >>>> them.
> > > >> >>>> It
> > > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> > > >> >>>>
> > > >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
> > > >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle
> > > >> >>> is
> > > >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway.
> > > >> >>> Her
> > > >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be
> > > >> >>> agreeable
> > > >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle
> > > >> >>> a
> > > little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a
> > > >> >> rice
> > > >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> > > >> >> honoring
> > > >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> > > >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
> > > >> >> known
> > > >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur
> > > >> >> who
> > > >> >> had
> > > >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the
> > > >> >> name
> > > >> >> Uncle
> > > >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
> > > >> >> public.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for
> > > >> > slave
> > > >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other
> > > >> > people's
> > > >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> > > >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> > > >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic
> > > >> > and
> > > societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is
> > > a
> > > good thing.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a
> > > >> very
> > > >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with
> > > >> old
> > > >> stereotypes and not move on.
> > > >
> > > >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
> > > >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys
> > > >on
> > > >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
> > > >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view.
> > > >Oh
> > > >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> > > >
> > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
> > >
> > > A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> > > elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
> > >
> > > That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
> >
> > My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
> > elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
> >
> > We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos.
> > Now
> > that's some damn good eats.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
> >
> > ===
> >
> > I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
> > good))) What did you have?
>
> I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave
> me
> a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that
> the
> waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard.
> Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something
> cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick.
> The
> hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big
> table and eat.
>
> ===
>
> Ahh yes! Your restaurants and cafes have been closed too?? Ours still
> are!

It's probably not a good idea to go dining out at this time - you're taking
a risk. OTOH, Hawaii is not a hotbed of covid-19 activity. OTOH, I don't
want no stinking tourists flying over bringing their diseases. The first
visitors in the 1800's brought bugs over here that killed off 90% of the
natives. OTOH, I suppose pandemics like this will be common in the future so
we probably can't run and hide.

What the world needs now is a good, comfortable, face mask that can be worn
for extended periods. I suppose we're going to need one with a remote air
intake i.e., a "snoko."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MljH_D0eMIo

====

LOL I don't think that would help very much))

I suspect you get a lot of visitors too Can you isolate yourselves
from them? Do you have the 2 metre rule?

We stay 2 metres away from anyone we are near and we wear (real) masks
We also wear gloves with sanitizer.

It's not too bad for us I think. The nearest shop is a good distance and
we don't really meet up with anyone unless we are in one.

D. takes very good care of us for which I am always grateful! When we
are shopping he disinfects the trolley and all packaging. He leaves nothing
to chance!

We need to be careful at our age and I hope you all will too. I am sure
your wife will advise you well.

On 2020-06-19 3:41 a.m., Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 12:27:03 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>

> That's actually pretty ironic. It was considered a derogatory icon
> to Southern blacks (Not really "racist" - that's an abused word).
> But they didn't really give a shit and still bought it. It took a
> bunch of White snowflakes to complain loud enough that they finally
> got rid of it.
>
> Just like all the confederate statues, school names, public
> buildings, roads, etc... named after confederates. You'd be pretty
> hard pressed to find 1 out of 50 American=born blacks that were
> actually offended by any of that 10 years ago.
>
> Thank god we have white people to inform these other races how to be
> offended. Next they're gonna have to do soemhgin about all this
> Racists programming on TV. Whole channels dedicated to Black.
> Movies and TV shows where 95% of the actors/characters are black
> (with maybe a token Asian or some oddly eccentric/insignificant
> White person). And the new fad is to only shop and eat at
> businesses owned by blacks. But why aren't those same people going
> to their churches?
>
> That's racism at its finest.
>


It's like I said recently about there being two types of racists, those
who think all black people like watermelon and fried chicken, and those
who would never serve watermelon or fried chicken to black guests. I am
getting really fed up with this virtue sharing bullshit.

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 11:15:05 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"dsi1" wrote in message
...
>
>On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:42:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> "dsi1" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
>> > "dsi1" wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>> > > >> > wrote:
>> > > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>> > > >> >>> wrote:
>> > > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> > > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> > > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone.
>> > > >> >>>>>> We
>> > > >> >>>>>> grew up
>> > > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>> > > >> >>>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
>> > > >> >>>>>> she
>> > > >> >>>>>> was
>> > > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to
>> > > >> >>>>>> have
>> > > >> >>>>>> a
>> > > >> >>>>>> good
>> > > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if
>> > > >> >>>>>> everyone
>> > > >> >>>>>> had an
>> > > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need
>> > > >> >>>>> to
>> > > >> >>>>> be
>> > > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have
>> > > >> >>>>> that
>> > > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago
>> > > >> >>>>> and
>> > > >> >>>>> simply
>> > > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
>> > > >> >>>>> face.
>> > > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
>> > > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
>> > > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
>> > > >> >>>>> they
>> > > >> >>>>> will
>> > > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial
>> > > >> >>>>> placement.
>> > > >> >>>>>
>> > > >> >>>>
>> > > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in
>> > > >> >>>> them.
>> > > >> >>>> It
>> > > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
>> > > >> >>>>
>> > > >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
>> > > >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle
>> > > >> >>> is
>> > > >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway.
>> > > >> >>> Her
>> > > >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be
>> > > >> >>> agreeable
>> > > >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle
>> > > >> >>> a
>> > > little. In fact, that would be awesome!
>> > > >> >>>
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a
>> > > >> >> rice
>> > > >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
>> > > >> >> honoring
>> > > >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
>> > > >> >>
>> > > >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
>> > > >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
>> > > >> >> known
>> > > >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur
>> > > >> >> who
>> > > >> >> had
>> > > >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the
>> > > >> >> name
>> > > >> >> Uncle
>> > > >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
>> > > >> >> public.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for
>> > > >> > slave
>> > > >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other
>> > > >> > people's
>> > > >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
>> > > >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
>> > > >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic
>> > > >> > and
>> > > societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is
>> > > a
>> > > good thing.
>> > > >> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a
>> > > >> very
>> > > >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with
>> > > >> old
>> > > >> stereotypes and not move on.
>> > > >
>> > > >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
>> > > >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys
>> > > >on
>> > > >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
>> > > >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view.
>> > > >Oh
>> > > >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
>> > > >
>> > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
>> > >
>> > > A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
>> > > elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
>> > >
>> > > That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
>> >
>> > My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
>> > elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
>> >
>> > We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos.
>> > Now
>> > that's some damn good eats.
>> >
>> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
>> >
>> > ===
>> >
>> > I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
>> > good))) What did you have?
>>
>> I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave
>> me
>> a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that
>> the
>> waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard.
>> Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something
>> cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick.
>> The
>> hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big
>> table and eat.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Ahh yes! Your restaurants and cafes have been closed too?? Ours still
>> are!
>
>It's probably not a good idea to go dining out at this time - you're taking
>a risk. OTOH, Hawaii is not a hotbed of covid-19 activity. OTOH, I don't
>want no stinking tourists flying over bringing their diseases. The first
>visitors in the 1800's brought bugs over here that killed off 90% of the
>natives. OTOH, I suppose pandemics like this will be common in the future so
>we probably can't run and hide.
>
>What the world needs now is a good, comfortable, face mask that can be worn
>for extended periods. I suppose we're going to need one with a remote air
>intake i.e., a "snoko."
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MljH_D0eMIo
>
>====
>
> LOL I don't think that would help very much))
>
> I suspect you get a lot of visitors too Can you isolate yourselves
>from them? Do you have the 2 metre rule?
>
> We stay 2 metres away from anyone we are near and we wear (real) masks
>We also wear gloves with sanitizer.
>
> It's not too bad for us I think. The nearest shop is a good distance and
>we don't really meet up with anyone unless we are in one.
>
> D. takes very good care of us for which I am always grateful! When we
>are shopping he disinfects the trolley and all packaging. He leaves nothing
>to chance!
>
> We need to be careful at our age and I hope you all will too. I am sure
>your wife will advise you well.

Where I live it's been a 1/2 mile rule for as long as we've lived
here. The only time we know other people are closeby is when when we
hear tractors and chainsaws. Otherwise we hear critters...
woodpeckers were busy this morning. we don't need to hire a stump
grinder, Woody does a better job.

on 6/19/2020, Sheldon Martin supposed :
> we don't need to hire a stump
> grinder, Woody does a better job.
>
A woodpecker must have drilled a hole
in that stupid skull of yours, Shelly.

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 12:15:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:42:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > >> >>> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone..
> > > > >> >>>>>> We
> > > > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > > > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > > > >> >>>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
> > > > >> >>>>>> she
> > > > >> >>>>>> was
> > > > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to
> > > > >> >>>>>> have
> > > > >> >>>>>> a
> > > > >> >>>>>> good
> > > > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if
> > > > >> >>>>>> everyone
> > > > >> >>>>>> had an
> > > > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need
> > > > >> >>>>> to
> > > > >> >>>>> be
> > > > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have
> > > > >> >>>>> that
> > > > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago
> > > > >> >>>>> and
> > > > >> >>>>> simply
> > > > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
> > > > >> >>>>> face.
> > > > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > > > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > > > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
> > > > >> >>>>> they
> > > > >> >>>>> will
> > > > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial
> > > > >> >>>>> placement.
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in
> > > > >> >>>> them.
> > > > >> >>>> It
> > > > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
> > > > >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle
> > > > >> >>> is
> > > > >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway.
> > > > >> >>> Her
> > > > >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be
> > > > >> >>> agreeable
> > > > >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle
> > > > >> >>> a
> > > > little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a
> > > > >> >> rice
> > > > >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> > > > >> >> honoring
> > > > >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> > > > >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
> > > > >> >> known
> > > > >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur
> > > > >> >> who
> > > > >> >> had
> > > > >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the
> > > > >> >> name
> > > > >> >> Uncle
> > > > >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
> > > > >> >> public.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for
> > > > >> > slave
> > > > >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other
> > > > >> > people's
> > > > >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> > > > >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> > > > >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic
> > > > >> > and
> > > > societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is
> > > > a
> > > > good thing.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a
> > > > >> very
> > > > >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with
> > > > >> old
> > > > >> stereotypes and not move on.
> > > > >
> > > > >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
> > > > >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys
> > > > >on
> > > > >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
> > > > >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view.
> > > > >Oh
> > > > >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> > > > >
> > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
> > > >
> > > > A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> > > > elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
> > > >
> > > > That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
> > >
> > > My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
> > > elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
> > >
> > > We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos..
> > > Now
> > > that's some damn good eats.
> > >
> > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
> > > good))) What did you have?
> >
> > I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave
> > me
> > a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that
> > the
> > waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard.
> > Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something
> > cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick.
> > The
> > hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big
> > table and eat.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Ahh yes! Your restaurants and cafes have been closed too?? Ours still
> > are!
>
> It's probably not a good idea to go dining out at this time - you're taking
> a risk. OTOH, Hawaii is not a hotbed of covid-19 activity. OTOH, I don't
> want no stinking tourists flying over bringing their diseases. The first
> visitors in the 1800's brought bugs over here that killed off 90% of the
> natives. OTOH, I suppose pandemics like this will be common in the future so
> we probably can't run and hide.
>
> What the world needs now is a good, comfortable, face mask that can be worn
> for extended periods. I suppose we're going to need one with a remote air
> intake i.e., a "snoko."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MljH_D0eMIo
>
> ====
>
> LOL I don't think that would help very much))
>
> I suspect you get a lot of visitors too Can you isolate yourselves
> from them? Do you have the 2 metre rule?
>
> We stay 2 metres away from anyone we are near and we wear (real) masks
> We also wear gloves with sanitizer.
>
> It's not too bad for us I think. The nearest shop is a good distance and
> we don't really meet up with anyone unless we are in one.
>
> D. takes very good care of us for which I am always grateful! When we
> are shopping he disinfects the trolley and all packaging. He leaves nothing
> to chance!
>
> We need to be careful at our age and I hope you all will too. I am sure
> your wife will advise you well.

You husband is doing a great job! On this rock everybody wears a mask and when we go shopping, the cart gets wiped down by a store employee before/after it's used. We try to stay 6 feet apart but yesterday I had a client that insisted on doing fist bumps. I had to clean my hands after that one.

What would be cool would be to run our household like a germ lab where everybody the comes in gets decontaminated first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vw7E7uE3E

dsi1 wrote:

> On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 12:15:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:42:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > > >> >>> wrote:
> > > > > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone.
> > > > > >> >>>>>> We
> > > > > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > > > > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > > > > >> >>>>>>
> > > > > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
> > > > > >> >>>>>> she
> > > > > >> >>>>>> was
> > > > > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to
> > > > > >> >>>>>> have
> > > > > >> >>>>>> a
> > > > > >> >>>>>> good
> > > > > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if
> > > > > >> >>>>>> everyone
> > > > > >> >>>>>> had an
> > > > > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need
> > > > > >> >>>>> to
> > > > > >> >>>>> be
> > > > > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have
> > > > > >> >>>>> that
> > > > > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago
> > > > > >> >>>>> and
> > > > > >> >>>>> simply
> > > > > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
> > > > > >> >>>>> face.
> > > > > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > > > > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > > > > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
> > > > > >> >>>>> they
> > > > > >> >>>>> will
> > > > > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial
> > > > > >> >>>>> placement.
> > > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > > >> >>>>
> > > > > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in
> > > > > >> >>>> them.
> > > > > >> >>>> It
> > > > > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.

"dsi1" wrote in message
...

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 12:15:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:42:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed
> > > > >> >>> Pawlowski
> > > > >> >>> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone.
> > > > >> >>>>>> We
> > > > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > > > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > > > >> >>>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to
> > > > >> >>>>>> me,
> > > > >> >>>>>> she
> > > > >> >>>>>> was
> > > > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to
> > > > >> >>>>>> have
> > > > >> >>>>>> a
> > > > >> >>>>>> good
> > > > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if
> > > > >> >>>>>> everyone
> > > > >> >>>>>> had an
> > > > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the
> > > > >> >>>>> need
> > > > >> >>>>> to
> > > > >> >>>>> be
> > > > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have
> > > > >> >>>>> that
> > > > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago
> > > > >> >>>>> and
> > > > >> >>>>> simply
> > > > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
> > > > >> >>>>> face.
> > > > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > > > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > > > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
> > > > >> >>>>> they
> > > > >> >>>>> will
> > > > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial
> > > > >> >>>>> placement.
> > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in
> > > > >> >>>> them.
> > > > >> >>>> It
> > > > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> > > > >> >>>>
> > > > >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs.
> > > > >> >>> Butterworth
> > > > >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle
> > > > >> >>> is
> > > > >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway.
> > > > >> >>> Her
> > > > >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be
> > > > >> >>> agreeable
> > > > >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the
> > > > >> >>> bottle
> > > > >> >>> a
> > > > little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a
> > > > >> >> rice
> > > > >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> > > > >> >> honoring
> > > > >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> > > > >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice
> > > > >> >> grower
> > > > >> >> known
> > > > >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an
> > > > >> >> entrepreneur
> > > > >> >> who
> > > > >> >> had
> > > > >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the
> > > > >> >> name
> > > > >> >> Uncle
> > > > >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the
> > > > >> >> general
> > > > >> >> public.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for
> > > > >> > slave
> > > > >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other
> > > > >> > people's
> > > > >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> > > > >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> > > > >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic
> > > > >> > and
> > > > societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you
> > > > is
> > > > a
> > > > good thing.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a
> > > > >> very
> > > > >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with
> > > > >> old
> > > > >> stereotypes and not move on.
> > > > >
> > > > >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep
> > > > >your
> > > > >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us
> > > > >guys
> > > > >on
> > > > >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to
> > > > >get
> > > > >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of
> > > > >view.
> > > > >Oh
> > > > >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> > > > >
> > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
> > > >
> > > > A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> > > > elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
> > > >
> > > > That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
> > >
> > > My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge
> > > with
> > > elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
> > >
> > > We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos.
> > > Now
> > > that's some damn good eats.
> > >
> > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
> > >
> > > ===
> > >
> > > I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
> > > good))) What did you have?
> >
> > I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She
> > gave
> > me
> > a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that
> > the
> > waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard.
> > Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted
> > something
> > cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick.
> > The
> > hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a
> > big
> > table and eat.
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Ahh yes! Your restaurants and cafes have been closed too?? Ours
> > still
> > are!
>
> It's probably not a good idea to go dining out at this time - you're
> taking
> a risk. OTOH, Hawaii is not a hotbed of covid-19 activity. OTOH, I don't
> want no stinking tourists flying over bringing their diseases. The first
> visitors in the 1800's brought bugs over here that killed off 90% of the
> natives. OTOH, I suppose pandemics like this will be common in the future
> so
> we probably can't run and hide.
>
> What the world needs now is a good, comfortable, face mask that can be
> worn
> for extended periods. I suppose we're going to need one with a remote air
> intake i.e., a "snoko."
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MljH_D0eMIo
>
> ====
>
> LOL I don't think that would help very much))
>
> I suspect you get a lot of visitors too Can you isolate yourselves
> from them? Do you have the 2 metre rule?
>
> We stay 2 metres away from anyone we are near and we wear (real) masks
> We also wear gloves with sanitizer.
>
> It's not too bad for us I think. The nearest shop is a good distance
> and
> we don't really meet up with anyone unless we are in one.
>
> D. takes very good care of us for which I am always grateful! When we
> are shopping he disinfects the trolley and all packaging. He leaves
> nothing
> to chance!
>
> We need to be careful at our age and I hope you all will too. I am
> sure
> your wife will advise you well.

You husband is doing a great job! On this rock everybody wears a mask and
when we go shopping, the cart gets wiped down by a store employee
before/after it's used. We try to stay 6 feet apart but yesterday I had a
client that insisted on doing fist bumps. I had to clean my hands after that
one.

It makes you wonder how some people think!!

What would be cool would be to run our household like a germ lab where
everybody the comes in gets decontaminated first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vw7E7uE3E

LOL D. is going to love that one)))

On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 9:04:42 AM UTC-10, GM wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>
> > On Friday, June 19, 2020 at 12:15:07 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >
> > > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 10:42:23 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 9:21:06 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> > > > > "dsi1" wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 8:36:10 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> > > > > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 23:03:02 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > > >> On 6/17/2020 9:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 10:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> On 6/17/2020 3:29 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 7:31:48 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
> > > > > > >> >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>>> On 6/17/2020 12:54 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>>>> On 2020-06-17 12:27 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> Is nothing sacred? After 130 years an old friend is gone.
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> We
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> grew up
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
> > > > > > >> >>>>>>
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me,
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> she
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> was
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> have
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> a
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> good
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> breakfast. IMO, the world would be a better place if
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> everyone
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> had an
> > > > > > >> >>>>>> Aunt like her.
> > > > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > > > >> >>>>> Never underestimate the need for some people to feel the need
> > > > > > >> >>>>> to
> > > > > > >> >>>>> be
> > > > > > >> >>>>> offended. Granted, the old image of Aunt Jemima did have
> > > > > > >> >>>>> that
> > > > > > >> >>>>> antebellum air about it, but it had been updated years ago
> > > > > > >> >>>>> and
> > > > > > >> >>>>> simply
> > > > > > >> >>>>> showed a black woman. I agree that she was just a familiar
> > > > > > >> >>>>> face.
> > > > > > >> >>>>> Companies will be afraid to use black people as their
> > > > > > >> >>>>> spokespeople for
> > > > > > >> >>>>> fear that someone will feel a need to whine about, and then
> > > > > > >> >>>>> they
> > > > > > >> >>>>> will
> > > > > > >> >>>>> complain that the are not represented in commercial
> > > > > > >> >>>>> placement.
> > > > > > >> >>>>>
> > > > > > >> >>>>
> > > > > > >> >>>> I see commercials all the time that have token minorities in
> > > > > > >> >>>> them.
> > > > > > >> >>>> It
> > > > > > >> >>>> will be more racist if they replace her with a white woman.
> > > > > > >> >>>>
> > > > > > >> >>>> Is Uncle Ben next?
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>> You better believe it! They want to get rid of Mrs. Butterworth
> > > > > > >> >>> too. I'm thinking that might not be possible since the bottle
> > > > > > >> >>> is
> > > > > > >> >>> the product. I never thought Mrs. B was a black lady anyway.
> > > > > > >> >>> Her
> > > > > > >> >>> name should be your first clue about that matter. I'd be
> > > > > > >> >>> agreeable
> > > > > > >> >>> to changing the name to Mrs. Doubtfire and altering the bottle
> > > > > > >> >>> a
> > > > > > little. In fact, that would be awesome!
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Looks like Uncle Ben is going away too. The name comes from a
> > > > > > >> >> rice
> > > > > > >> >> farmer known as Uncle Ben, back in 1943. Seems like they are
> > > > > > >> >> honoring
> > > > > > >> >> the guy, not disparaging him.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Is there a real Uncle Ben?
> > > > > > >> >> According to Mars, Uncle Ben was an African-American rice grower
> > > > > > >> >> known
> > > > > > >> >> for the quality of his rice. Gordon L. Harwell, an entrepreneur
> > > > > > >> >> who
> > > > > > >> >> had
> > > > > > >> >> supplied rice to the armed forces in World War II, chose the
> > > > > > >> >> name
> > > > > > >> >> Uncle
> > > > > > >> >> Ben's as a means to expand his marketing efforts to the general
> > > > > > >> >> public.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > That's fine, if the idea of your mom being forced to work for
> > > > > > >> > slave
> > > > > > >> > wages cleaning up other people's houses and raising other
> > > > > > >> > people's
> > > > > > >> > kids appeals to you. It's great if you think putting a grinning
> > > > > > >> > picture of your mom or aunt on a box of product to sell to
> > > > > > >> > generations of people that called her "mammy" because economic
> > > > > > >> > and
> > > > > > societal conditions forced her to raise them instead of raising you is
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > good thing.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> We evolved away from that years ago. I know people that make a
> > > > > > >> very
> > > > > > >> good wage cleaning houses. You problem if you want to live with
> > > > > > >> old
> > > > > > >> stereotypes and not move on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your
> > > > > > >vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to. Us guys
> > > > > > >on
> > > > > > >this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get
> > > > > > >people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view.
> > > > > > >Oh
> > > > > > >well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A mouse and an elephant are crossing a bridge. The mouse says to the
> > > > > > elephant: "We're making the whole bridge shake."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's dsi1's rock versus the mainland.
> > > > >
> > > > > My uncle Charlie used to say "Mouse should never cross shaky bridge with
> > > > > elephant." Now that's some damn good advice.
> > > > >
> > > > > We ate in a real restaurant this evening. My wife had ahi poke nachos.
> > > > > Now
> > > > > that's some damn good eats.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...B6RtSVcPGrOSLj
> > > > >
> > > > > ===
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't want to know about any spicy stuff, but that looks really
> > > > > good))) What did you have?
> > > >
> > > > I had a hamburger steak. I told the lady to give me extra gravy. She gave
> > > > me
> > > > a bowl of gravy. I thought that was going overboard but my guess is that
> > > > the
> > > > waitress was happy to be serving people again so they go overboard.
> > > > Hamburger steak is kind of boring but I wasn't hungry and wanted something
> > > > cheap. I did ask for some Tobasco sauce to give it a little ki-ki-kick.
> > > > The
> > > > hamburger steak was so-so but it was nice to sit with the family at a big
> > > > table and eat.
> > > >
> > > > ===
> > > >
> > > > Ahh yes! Your restaurants and cafes have been closed too?? Ours still
> > > > are!
> > >
> > > It's probably not a good idea to go dining out at this time - you're taking
> > > a risk. OTOH, Hawaii is not a hotbed of covid-19 activity. OTOH, I don't
> > > want no stinking tourists flying over bringing their diseases. The first
> > > visitors in the 1800's brought bugs over here that killed off 90% of the
> > > natives. OTOH, I suppose pandemics like this will be common in the future so
> > > we probably can't run and hide.
> > >
> > > What the world needs now is a good, comfortable, face mask that can be worn
> > > for extended periods. I suppose we're going to need one with a remote air
> > > intake i.e., a "snoko."
> > >
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MljH_D0eMIo
> > >
> > > ====
> > >
> > > LOL I don't think that would help very much))
> > >
> > > I suspect you get a lot of visitors too Can you isolate yourselves
> > > from them? Do you have the 2 metre rule?
> > >
> > > We stay 2 metres away from anyone we are near and we wear (real) masks
> > > We also wear gloves with sanitizer.
> > >
> > > It's not too bad for us I think. The nearest shop is a good distance and
> > > we don't really meet up with anyone unless we are in one.
> > >
> > > D. takes very good care of us for which I am always grateful! When we
> > > are shopping he disinfects the trolley and all packaging. He leaves nothing
> > > to chance!
> > >
> > > We need to be careful at our age and I hope you all will too. I am sure
> > > your wife will advise you well.
> >
> > You husband is doing a great job! On this rock everybody wears a mask and when we go shopping, the cart gets wiped down by a store employee before/after it's used. We try to stay 6 feet apart but yesterday I had a client that insisted on doing fist bumps. I had to clean my hands after that one.
> >
> > What would be cool would be to run our household like a germ lab where everybody the comes in gets decontaminated first.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1vw7E7uE3E
>
>
> Oy that would smell really great.

As it goes, humans are the filthiest of animals - with the exception of Mexican masked professional wrestlers, of course.

On 6/18/2020 1:28 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>> On 6/17/2020 6:59 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 6/17/2020 1:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2020-06-17 1:01 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 6:27:07 AM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Is nothing sacred?A After 130 years an old friend is gone.A We grew
>>>>>> up with Aunt Jemima for breakfast but she is going away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some have considered the familiar figure racists but to me, she was
>>>>>> just a familiar face, a nice lady that just wanted you to have a
>>>>>> good breakfast.A IMO, the world would be a better place if everyone
>>>>>> had an Aunt like her.
>>>>>
>>>>> The call her "aunt" but she's not really your auntie. She'd be your
>>>>> mammy - a low-paid hired help that raised you from a baby. That
>>>>> concept is a pretty weird one in this day and age. Perhaps they can
>>>>> change her into a nice white lady. Then she'd be like a real aunt.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure. It could be a white lady. That would be the cue for people to
>>>> complain that black people are under represented in public images. In
>>>> Canada the low paid nanny that is making pancakes for breakfast for
>>>> little kids would be more likely to be Filipino.
>>>
>>> Thing is, Aunt Jemima is syrup and boxed pancake mix.A A marketing
>>> concept which underwent a lot of changes through the 131 year history,
>>> according to the article in the New York Times:
>>>
>>> "In magazine advertisements throughout much of the 20th century, the
>>> character was shown serving white families. Aunt Jemima went through
>>> several redesigns over the decades. In 1989, Quaker Oats substantially
>>> revised the charactera s look, adding pearl earrings and a lace collar."
>>>
>>> I do not understand why her drawn image is suddenly a horrific insult to
>>> anyone.A It's *marketing*.A Same thing with Uncle Ben, who apparently
>>> lent his image and his name to sell his own brand of rice.A He was a
>>> real person who made money as a result.A Would he be happy to see his
>>> face taken off those boxes of rice?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> There is nothing derogatory with the name Jemima and seems to be used by
>> people of other countries too. The original drawings did depict her as
>> kitchen help, not so much the updated.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima
>>
>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>
> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>
> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>
> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>
>
Well I'll just have to ask my black friends (yes, I have a few) if
they've ever really given much thought about the images on a box of
pancake mix or rice before. I'll let you know what they say.

Jill

On 6/18/2020 5:58 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 2:03:05 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 4:37:05 PM UTC-10, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> It's not really my problem. Yoose folks on the mainland can keep your vestiges of the old South that yoose so desperately cling to.
>
> You're right. Here we sit, plaintively singing Dixie, wishing that
> brown people still knew their place.
>
>> Us guys on this rock have our own problems to tend to. I was just trying to get people to see what it looks like from the other guy's point of view. Oh well, we can't all be Gregory Peck.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b05CMl4hwcc
>
> David, Gregory Peck was an actor. He spoke other people's words in
> a convincing manner.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Since dsi1 loves youtube videos, here's one: Aunt Jemima was a "model"
named Lillian Richards [Williams] who made a career out of portraying
Aunt Jemima starting in 1925:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WeXkHyBhKo

Jill

On 6/18/2020 11:09 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I also have Uncle Ben's rice in my pantry.Â* He makes good stuff and
> should be proud of it.
>
I have a box of Uncle Ben's rice in my pantry, too. Wonder if I should
set it aside in case it becomes a museum piece one day?

Jill

On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 18:38:29 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 6/18/2020 1:28 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>> writes:

>>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>>
>> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>>
>> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>>
>> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
>> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>>
>>
>Well I'll just have to ask my black friends (yes, I have a few)

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 18:38:29 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/18/2020 1:28 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
>>> writes:
>
>>>> Taking Uncle Ben off the rice is an insult to him. He was a hard
>>>> working farmer and achieved a bit of recognition for his skills.
>>>
>>> The use of "Aunt Jemima" as a derogatory slur is very much alive.
>>>
>>> <https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-reassigned-allegedly-calling-black-woman-juror-aunt/story?id=68824246>
>>>
>>> gotta say it's entertaining seeing a bunch of old white people
>>> outraged about a black lady not being used to sell syrup any more
>>>
>>>
>> Well I'll just have to ask my black friends (yes, I have a few)
>
> Pictures or it didn't happen.
>

Yoose becoming our new Popeye?