On 6/20/2020 5:02 PM, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Jun 20, , Dave Smith wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> I never did understand how a can of beer up a chicken's ass was supposed
>> to work. There may be something about steam, but ..... beer flavour? I
>> don't usually even drink beer with chicken so I don't know how it would
>> improve the flavour. I think that an empty beer can filled with water
>> would do just as well.
>
> How about a 12 ounce can of lemonade? Id hate to waste a Budweiser on a
> cooking experiment.
>
> leo
>
>
Sure, any liquid would help. Its one of those thing that started with a
can of beer and it just sounds like a fun thing to try. The idea is
just to keep the chicken from drying out. There are also racks
available to cook the bird vertically with no can of anything.
https://tinyurl.com/y8daj2dv from Amazon and others

On 2020 Jun 20, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
(in article >):

> Sure, any liquid would help. Its one of those thing that started with a
> can of beer and it just sounds like a fun thing to try. The idea is
> just to keep the chicken from drying out. There are also racks
> available to cook the bird vertically with no can of anything.
> https://tinyurl.com/y8daj2dv from Amazon and others

Full disclosure. I havent tried to cook, nor have I eaten, "beer can"
chicken. I do like lemon chicken and think that lemony steam would be
better than beer steam into the cavity. I considered getting one of the
wire racks once when €œbeer can€� chicken was all the rage, but I didn't.

leo

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 06:36:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 03:58:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:54:52 -0700, GM wrote:
>> >
>> >> HINT: do *not* use diet cola, lol...
>> >
>> >If you use Pepsi / Coke directly, you will have a lot of water to drive
>> >off before the temperature attains that required for both caramelization
>> >AND 'Maillard' reactions, or as DS1 says: 'browning'. This will also
>> >drive off a lot of the volatiles that define the 'true cola taste'.
>> >
>> >Instead, check at a bar supply place for the concentrated cola syrup. Do
>> >NOT use 'Soda-Stream' concentrated cola; even the regular (non-diet)
>> >formulation uses sucralose / acesulfame potassium instead of tried &
>> >true
>> >HFCS. The former will adversely affect the a/n chemical reactions, which
>> >require decent amounts of reducing sugars.
>> >
>> >
>> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailla...ical_mechanism
>> >
>> >
>> >NB: Try concentrated cola syrup wherever you might otherwise try
>> >chocolate syrup. This does not apply to the guy who disparaged the taste
>> >of McDonald's coffee after admitting that his taste preference for a
>> >coffee-based drink includes no less than four (4) adulterants, to wit:
>> >sugar, milk, cinnamon, and chocolate syrup.
>> >
>> >PS: Once opened, keep the cola syrup in the fridge/freezer. The same
>> >advice applies to molasses, HFCF, maple syrup, etc. (To stop a growing
>> >concern at yeast.)
>>
>> Why on earth would anyone cook with an industrial concoction that is
>> useful for loosening rusty screws?
>
>Like wine: if you'd drink it, you can cook with it.

I wouldn't drink coca cola, much less cook with it. God knows how it
reacts to heat. It might break down into liquid TNT.

===

I don't know about that, but no, I don't fancy it either!

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 11:29:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" wrote in message ...
>
>On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 06:36:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 03:58:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:54:52 -0700, GM wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> HINT: do *not* use diet cola, lol...
>>> >
>>> >If you use Pepsi / Coke directly, you will have a lot of water to drive
>>> >off before the temperature attains that required for both caramelization
>>> >AND 'Maillard' reactions, or as DS1 says: 'browning'. This will also
>>> >drive off a lot of the volatiles that define the 'true cola taste'.
>>> >
>>> >Instead, check at a bar supply place for the concentrated cola syrup. Do
>>> >NOT use 'Soda-Stream' concentrated cola; even the regular (non-diet)
>>> >formulation uses sucralose / acesulfame potassium instead of tried &
>>> >true
>>> >HFCS. The former will adversely affect the a/n chemical reactions, which
>>> >require decent amounts of reducing sugars.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailla...ical_mechanism
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >NB: Try concentrated cola syrup wherever you might otherwise try
>>> >chocolate syrup. This does not apply to the guy who disparaged the taste
>>> >of McDonald's coffee after admitting that his taste preference for a
>>> >coffee-based drink includes no less than four (4) adulterants, to wit:
>>> >sugar, milk, cinnamon, and chocolate syrup.
>>> >
>>> >PS: Once opened, keep the cola syrup in the fridge/freezer. The same
>>> >advice applies to molasses, HFCF, maple syrup, etc. (To stop a growing
>>> >concern at yeast.)
>>>
>>> Why on earth would anyone cook with an industrial concoction that is
>>> useful for loosening rusty screws?
>>
>>Like wine: if you'd drink it, you can cook with it.
>
>I wouldn't drink coca cola, much less cook with it. God knows how it
>reacts to heat. It might break down into liquid TNT.
>
>===
>
>I don't know about that, but no, I don't fancy it either!

No, a horrible idea!

"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 11:29:52 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" wrote in message
.. .
>
>On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 06:36:04 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 12:18:49 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 03:58:35 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 10:54:52 -0700, GM wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> HINT: do *not* use diet cola, lol...
>>> >
>>> >If you use Pepsi / Coke directly, you will have a lot of water to drive
>>> >off before the temperature attains that required for both
>>> >caramelization
>>> >AND 'Maillard' reactions, or as DS1 says: 'browning'. This will also
>>> >drive off a lot of the volatiles that define the 'true cola taste'.
>>> >
>>> >Instead, check at a bar supply place for the concentrated cola syrup.
>>> >Do
>>> >NOT use 'Soda-Stream' concentrated cola; even the regular (non-diet)
>>> >formulation uses sucralose / acesulfame potassium instead of tried &
>>> >true
>>> >HFCS. The former will adversely affect the a/n chemical reactions,
>>> >which
>>> >require decent amounts of reducing sugars.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailla...ical_mechanism
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >NB: Try concentrated cola syrup wherever you might otherwise try
>>> >chocolate syrup. This does not apply to the guy who disparaged the
>>> >taste
>>> >of McDonald's coffee after admitting that his taste preference for a
>>> >coffee-based drink includes no less than four (4) adulterants, to wit:
>>> >sugar, milk, cinnamon, and chocolate syrup.
>>> >
>>> >PS: Once opened, keep the cola syrup in the fridge/freezer. The same
>>> >advice applies to molasses, HFCF, maple syrup, etc. (To stop a growing
>>> >concern at yeast.)
>>>
>>> Why on earth would anyone cook with an industrial concoction that is
>>> useful for loosening rusty screws?
>>
>>Like wine: if you'd drink it, you can cook with it.
>
>I wouldn't drink coca cola, much less cook with it. God knows how it
>reacts to heat. It might break down into liquid TNT.
>
>===
>
>I don't know about that, but no, I don't fancy it either!

No, a horrible idea!

===

Well, for us Not for others though

On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 21:07:20 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Jun 20, , Ed Pawlowski wrote
>(in article >):
>
>> Sure, any liquid would help. Its one of those thing that started with a
>> can of beer and it just sounds like a fun thing to try. The idea is
>> just to keep the chicken from drying out. There are also racks
>> available to cook the bird vertically with no can of anything.
>> https://tinyurl.com/y8daj2dv from Amazon and others
>
>Full disclosure. I haven’t tried to cook, nor have I eaten, "beer can"
>chicken. I do like lemon chicken and think that lemony steam would be
>better than beer steam into the cavity. I considered getting one of the
>wire racks once when “beer can” chicken was all the rage, but I didn't.
>
>leo

Would've been a waste of beer. I'd rather simmer tube steak in beer.

On 6/20/2020 1:43 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 10:21:50 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, June 20, 2020 at 10:42:21 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 07:08:48 -0700 (PDT), GM
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I should have made clear that I've only used cola as part of a marinade, not to directly cook with...
>>>
>>> I use it as a braising liquid
>>>
>> Cola or just plain water is good to cook country ham slices in for about
>> 15 minutes. Either one will greatly reduce the saltiness so you won't be
>> standing at the sink all day guzzling water.
>>
>> After simmering the slices in either water or cola, dump the liquid and
>> return the slices to the frying pan to lightly brown.
>>
>> I've read some people also use cola as the liquid to bake a ham in. I've
>> not tried it myself though.
>
> Alton Brown proposed it on his TV show 10+ years ago. His preferred
> guzzle is Dr. Pepper.
> Janet US
>
Yup! I had a friend in Memphis who brought some sort of pork roast to a
party. He said he'd cooked it in Dr. Pepper. Whether he meant
marinated in or actually braised it in Dr. Pepper, I don't know.

Jill

On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>
>> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
>>
>> --
>> Silvar Beitel
>>
> I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
> to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
> matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.

Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.

On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> >>
> >> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Silvar Beitel
> >>
> > I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
> > to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
> > matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.
>
> Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.

How nice for them.

I don't put pickles on sandwiches, except for my decennial Big Mac.

On the side is fine.

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 02:45:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Silvar Beitel
>> >>
>> > I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
>> > to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
>> > matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.
>>
>> Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.
>
>How nice for them.
>
>I don't put pickles on sandwiches, except for my decennial Big Mac.
>
>On the side is fine.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

I put sweet pickle relish on sandwiches, good on a ham n' swiss, with
mayo on one side, mustard on the other side. Yesterday's lunch was a
leftover cold sauted skinless boneless chicken breast on a hard roll
with mayo and sweet pickle relish. Sometimes I'll have sweet pickle
relish on a hot dog with mustard. I buy the pickle relish ready made.
However my real fermented garlic dills I make my own and I prefer to
eat them whole. When my kirbys come in this year I'm ready for
putting up a boat load.

On 2020-06-23 5:45 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Silvar Beitel
>>>>
>>> I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
>>> to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
>>> matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.
>>
>> Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.
>
> How nice for them.
>
> I don't put pickles on sandwiches, except for my decennial Big Mac.
>
> On the side is fine.


One of my childhood favourites was to open up a gooey hot grilled cheese
sandwich and insert think slices of sweet pickle.

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:55:10 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-06-23 5:45 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Silvar Beitel
> >>>>
> >>> I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
> >>> to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
> >>> matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.
> >>
> >> Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.
> >
> > How nice for them.
> >
> > I don't put pickles on sandwiches, except for my decennial Big Mac.
> >
> > On the side is fine.
>
>
> One of my childhood favourites was to open up a gooey hot grilled cheese
> sandwich and insert think slices of sweet pickle.

That might have been appealing when I was a child. I now open up a
grilled cheeses sandwich and insert thin slices of onion, tomato, and
fresh jalapeno.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 8:55:10 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-06-23 5:45 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > >> On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
> > >>> On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Silvar Beitel
> > >>>>
> > >>> I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
> > >>> to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
> > >>> matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.
> > >>
> > >> Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.
> > >
> > > How nice for them.
> > >
> > > I don't put pickles on sandwiches, except for my decennial Big Mac.
> > >
> > > On the side is fine.
> >
> >
> > One of my childhood favourites was to open up a gooey hot grilled cheese
> > sandwich and insert think slices of sweet pickle.
>
> That might have been appealing when I was a child. I now open up a
> grilled cheeses sandwich and insert thin slices of onion, tomato, and
> fresh jalapeno.

I like grilled cheese with a tomato slice inside.

On Tue, June 23, 2020 02:45:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
>> >>
>> >> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Silvar Beitel
>> >>
>> > I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
>> > to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
>> > matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.
>>
>> Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.
>
>How nice for them.
>
>I don't put pickles on sandwiches, except for my decennial Big Mac.
>
>On the side is fine.

My BLT sandwiches wouldn't go well with pickles, just the mayo and I'd never add anything at all to a grilled cheese sandwich that's been cooked through and through with plenty of butter.

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 6:34:39 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> My BLT sandwiches wouldn't go well with pickles, just the mayo and I'd never add anything at all to a grilled cheese sandwich that's been cooked through and through with plenty of butter.
>
Sliced pepperoni is good shingled on the cheese before adding the slice of
bread.

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 7:34:39 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Tue, June 23, 2020 02:45:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 4:48:25 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >> On 6/17/2020 4:39PM, wrote:
> >> > On Wednesday, June 17, 2020 at 3:34:06 PM UTC-5, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> <https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2015/08/five-ingredient-fried-chicken-sandwich-recipe.html>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Silvar Beitel
> >> >>
> >> > I'm glad you found that for her but when I read it I was not impressed enough
> >> > to save the site. I don't care for thighs nor pickles on any sandwich no
> >> > matter what meat it is and the thought of using the juice, uh-uh.
> >>
> >> Chik-Fil-A puts pickles in their sandwiches and so does KFC with that Nashville hot chicken.
> >
> >How nice for them.
> >
> >I don't put pickles on sandwiches, except for my decennial Big Mac.
> >
> >On the side is fine.
>
> My BLT sandwiches wouldn't go well with pickles, just the mayo and I'd never add anything at all to a grilled cheese sandwich that's been cooked through and through with plenty of butter.

Everybody's different. I always used to eat grilled cheese sandwiches
plain and I occasionally still do. It doesn't have to be the
same all the time.

There are other sandwiches besides BLT and grilled cheese, although
I agree with you about BLT and pickles.

Cindy Hamilton