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On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 03:24:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote: >On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:46:27 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:43:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton >> > wrote: >> >> >On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:28:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 12:39:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 2:56:35 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote: >> >> >> On 7/8/2020 9:56 AM, graham wrote: >> >> >> > On 2020-07-07 10:55 p.m., Snag wrote: >> >> >> >> On 7/7/2020 10:13 PM, graham wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 2020-07-07 8:20 p.m., wrote: >> >> >> >>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 7:06:29 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> I've >> >> >> >>>>> got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it.Â* But I'm >> >> >> >>>>> glad you're getting some money from those hives.  >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>>> Jill >> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >> >>>> The wonderful thing about honey is it never goes bad.Â* If it should >> >> >> >>>> get a >> >> >> >>>> bit grainy just put the jar in a pan of very warm to hot water. >> >> >> >>>> Presto! >> >> >> >>>> In just a little while you've got smooth honey again. >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>> Easier to nuke it in the MW. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Â*Â*Â* SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey ! You kill all the >> >> >> >> microflora that give it it's unique properties . Many big operations >> >> >> >> heat their honey to thin it so it's easier to filter . And filtering >> >> >> >> takes out all the microfragments of pollen and the heating kills all >> >> >> >> the microflora . I process cold and the only filtration is 4 layers of >> >> >> >> cheesecloth to strain out the big stuff like wax fragments and the >> >> >> >> occasional wing or leg . But then I'm not running 1000 hives either ... >> >> >> >> Â*Â* I also do not treat my hives with chemicals . My bees were bred to >> >> >> >> be resistant to Varroa Destructor mites . Apparently those genetics >> >> >> >> are dominant in my immediate area because their resistance has >> >> >> >> remained unchanged for 6 years now . >> >> >> > The way I do it, the temperature doesn't get any higher than the warm >> >> >> > water method. It just saves the bother of heating a pan of water. >> >> >> >> >> >> It's not so much the temp as it is the microwave RADIATION . >> >> > >> >> >Can you provide a citation for this? >> >> >> >> This is the first one I found: >> >> >> >> "The microwave will essentially destroy all of the beneficial enzymes >> >> and properties of the honey. Sure it will return it to a liquid state, >> >> but then you can just consider it not much more than a honey colored >> >> sweetener." >> >> <http://www.lincolnlandbeekeepers.com/uploads/1/0/6/4/10649295/how_to_decrystalize_honey.pdf> >> > >> >Here's a more detailed explanation: >> > >> ><https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28946234/> >> > >> >Since I don't like the taste of honey, it's all kind of moot for me. >> >> I never ask for more info about things that are moot to me > >It would appear I have more curiosity than you. If you were curious about it, it wouldn't be moot to you |
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> > On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: > > > > On 7/8/2020 4:26 PM, wrote: > > > > > > Make your Sunday breakfast this week hot buttered biscuits and honey. > > > > > The thing is, I don't have much of a sweet tooth. > > > > Jill > > > A once a year treat. I don't care to have honey plain (like on toast or biscuits) but I do use it as an ingredient in some asian sauces. |
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Ophelia wrote:
> > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > Bruce wrote: > > > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:42:18 -0500, Snag > wrote: > > > > >On 7/7/2020 10:05 PM, wrote: > > >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote: > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Psst! Buttered hot biscuits. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> And corn bread. Just as good as a piece of cake. > > >>> > > >> I've never eaten honey on cornbread but have molasses several times. > > >> > > > > > > You've missed a treat ... first you slather it with butter , then you > > >pour on the honey - if it doesn't dribble on your chin (or beard ...) > > >you didn't put enough on . We've got 2 kinds of honey , fall and > > >spring/early summer . The fall has a more pronounced flavor and is > > >darker . The stuff I extracted today has a very light delicate flavor > > >and is very pale in color . I have no idea what they forage on , but > > >there's only woods and grass hay fields and clearings full of > > >wildflowers in the direction they go . There is zero mono-crop farming > > >here and this is as organic as it gets but I can't label it as such . > > > > Would be cool to mount a tiny camera on a few bees to see where they > > go. > > A "bee cam" I love the idea! > > ==== > > So do I )) Will you do it, Gary?))May-BEE a ferret cam someday. That would be cool. |
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On Thursday, July 9, 2020 at 6:48:03 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 03:24:02 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > > wrote: > > >On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:46:27 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: > >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 13:43:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > >> > wrote: > >> > >> >On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:28:44 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 12:39:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> >On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 2:56:35 PM UTC-4, Snag wrote: > >> >> >> On 7/8/2020 9:56 AM, graham wrote: > >> >> >> > On 2020-07-07 10:55 p.m., Snag wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 7/7/2020 10:13 PM, graham wrote: > >> >> >> >>> On 2020-07-07 8:20 p.m., wrote: > >> >> >> >>>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 7:06:29 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> I've > >> >> >> >>>>> got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it..Â* But I'm > >> >> >> >>>>> glad you're getting some money from those hives. > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>>> Jill > >> >> >> >>>>> > >> >> >> >>>> The wonderful thing about honey is it never goes bad.Â* If it should > >> >> >> >>>> get a > >> >> >> >>>> bit grainy just put the jar in a pan of very warm to hot water. > >> >> >> >>>> Presto! > >> >> >> >>>> In just a little while you've got smooth honey again. > >> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >> >>> Easier to nuke it in the MW. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Â*Â*Â* SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey ! You kill all the > >> >> >> >> microflora that give it it's unique properties . Many big operations > >> >> >> >> heat their honey to thin it so it's easier to filter . And filtering > >> >> >> >> takes out all the microfragments of pollen and the heating kills all > >> >> >> >> the microflora . I process cold and the only filtration is 4 layers of > >> >> >> >> cheesecloth to strain out the big stuff like wax fragments and the > >> >> >> >> occasional wing or leg . But then I'm not running 1000 hives either ... > >> >> >> >> Â*Â* I also do not treat my hives with chemicals . My bees were bred to > >> >> >> >> be resistant to Varroa Destructor mites . Apparently those genetics > >> >> >> >> are dominant in my immediate area because their resistance has > >> >> >> >> remained unchanged for 6 years now . > >> >> >> > The way I do it, the temperature doesn't get any higher than the warm > >> >> >> > water method. It just saves the bother of heating a pan of water. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It's not so much the temp as it is the microwave RADIATION . > >> >> > > >> >> >Can you provide a citation for this? > >> >> > >> >> This is the first one I found: > >> >> > >> >> "The microwave will essentially destroy all of the beneficial enzymes > >> >> and properties of the honey. Sure it will return it to a liquid state, > >> >> but then you can just consider it not much more than a honey colored > >> >> sweetener." > >> >> <http://www.lincolnlandbeekeepers.com/uploads/1/0/6/4/10649295/how_to_decrystalize_honey.pdf> > >> > > >> >Here's a more detailed explanation: > >> > > >> ><https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28946234/> > >> > > >> >Since I don't like the taste of honey, it's all kind of moot for me. > >> > >> I never ask for more info about things that are moot to me > > > >It would appear I have more curiosity than you. > > If you were curious about it, it wouldn't be moot to you The practical effects of microwaving are irrelevant to me. Even if I ate honey I wouldn't care if it were antimicrobial. But it's still interesting. I read articles about child-rearing even though I have no children. Cindy Hamilton |
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2020 07:00:45 -0400, Gary > wrote:
" wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: >> > >> > On 7/8/2020 4:26 PM, wrote: >> > > >> > > Make your Sunday breakfast this week hot buttered biscuits and honey. >> > > >> > The thing is, I don't have much of a sweet tooth. >> > >> > Jill >> > >> A once a year treat. > >I don't care to have honey plain (like on toast or biscuits) >but I do use it as an ingredient in some asian sauces. Rather than sugar I like a little honey drizzled on fresh cut fruit... also on hot cereal. A little on vanilla icecream too. |
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"Gary" wrote in message ... Ophelia wrote: > > "Gary" wrote in message ... > > Bruce wrote: > > > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:42:18 -0500, Snag > wrote: > > > > >On 7/7/2020 10:05 PM, wrote: > > >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 10:00:46 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote: > > >>> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Psst! Buttered hot biscuits. > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> And corn bread. Just as good as a piece of cake. > > >>> > > >> I've never eaten honey on cornbread but have molasses several times. > > >> > > > > > > You've missed a treat ... first you slather it with butter , then > > > you > > >pour on the honey - if it doesn't dribble on your chin (or beard ...) > > >you didn't put enough on . We've got 2 kinds of honey , fall and > > >spring/early summer . The fall has a more pronounced flavor and is > > >darker . The stuff I extracted today has a very light delicate flavor > > >and is very pale in color . I have no idea what they forage on , but > > >there's only woods and grass hay fields and clearings full of > > >wildflowers in the direction they go . There is zero mono-crop farming > > >here and this is as organic as it gets but I can't label it as such . > > > > Would be cool to mount a tiny camera on a few bees to see where they > > go. > > A "bee cam" I love the idea! > > ==== > > So do I )) Will you do it, Gary?))May-BEE a ferret cam someday. That would be cool. ==== Oh yes )))) |
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On 7/8/2020 10:21 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 7:38:38 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: >>> >> The thing is, I don't have much of a sweet tooth. >> >> Jill > > Like Heath Bars? My English Toffee is way better! Made with cream,Â*butter and sugar! In fact I may just go get a piece! BRB...YUM!! Yep, better than a Heath Bar! :-) > > John Kuthe... > Don't talk to me about making candy, John. I've made different types of candy many times, starting when I was a teenager with my grandmother's recipe for date-nut coconut candy which is very labor intensive. Also my recipe for peanut brittle. And different kinds of fudge. I don't need advice from you about how to make candy. Jill |
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On 2020-07-08, Snag > wrote:
> SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey! Too often, the label has "foil" in it, making nuking all but impossible. > Many big operations heat their honey to thin it so it's easier to > filter . And..... .....add sugar!! Honey is so adulterated, now, we do not allow honey to be imported from China, any longer. China exports it to places like Vietnam, Singapore, etc, which imports it to us! Don't you think it strange, ppl are demanding more and more honey, yet bee's are dying off? Perhaps that is why you are getting suck big returns from yer obviously "real" honey. > I also do not treat my hives with chemicals . My bees were bred to be > resistant to Varroa Destructor mites . Apparently those genetics are > dominant in my immediate area because their resistance has remained > unchanged for 6 years now . Good for you. BTW, how can I determine if honey is real. I jes "un-crystallized" a half a jar of organic honey (hot water). If it "crystallizes" at all, is it "real" honey? I've had crystallization occur to "true" maple syrup (very quickly).  nb |
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On 15 Jul 2020 notbob wrote:
>On 2020-07-08, Snag wrote: > >>SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey! > >Too often, the label has "foil" in it, making nuking all but >impossible. Best to place the honey jar into a pot of pre-heated water. Do not over heat honey or its flavor will change and not for the better. Warm honey slowly and not in a pot of water still being heated or for sure you will forget about it until all the water cooks away and your smoke alarm goes off. |
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