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That's how they say it in some places in the south ... today I
extracted 15 frames of honey , 5 and 10 each from my two strongest hives .. The yield was 10 quarts and 10 pints , six of each have chunks of comb .. I didn't check them frequently enough and there was a *cross-comb mess in both hives . Both had tons of honey even after I robbed them - and I didn't mind cutting that comb out of the frames and jarring it , I can charge a premium for "chunk honey" . At my asking price that's nearly 400 bucks worth of product . The tourist season is on and they're coming in droves , and this is the kind of stuff they look for ... *Each box , or "super" has 10 frames for the bees to draw out their comb , and usually they draw it out straight down the frames . Sometimes they jump from frame to frame , putting the comb crosswise to the frames .. Makes harvesting difficult , because you have to cut the frames apart to extract the honey . And when you cut it , all the sweet goodness runs out all over the place . It's going to take me a month to find all the sticky and wipe it down . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum |
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On 7/7/2020 7:36 PM, Snag wrote:
> Â* That's how they say it in some places in the south ... today I > extracted 15 frames of honey , 5 and 10 each from my two strongest hives > . The yield was 10 quarts and 10 pints , six of each have chunks of comb > . I didn't check them frequently enough and there was a *cross-comb mess > in both hives . Both had tons of honey even after I robbed them - and I > didn't mind cutting that comb out of the frames and jarring it , I can > charge a premium for "chunk honey" . At my asking price that's nearly > 400 bucks worth of product . The tourist season is on and they're coming > in droves , and this is the kind of stuff they look for ... > Â* *Each box , or "super" has 10 frames for the bees to draw out their > comb , and usually they draw it out straight down the frames . Sometimes > they jump from frame to frame , putting the comb crosswise to the frames > . Makes harvesting difficult , because you have to cut the frames apart > to extract the honey . And when you cut it , all the sweet goodness runs > out all over the place . It's going to take me a month to find all the > sticky and wipe it down . Sounds wonderful, Terry! I sure do wish I had a use for honey. I've got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it. But I'm glad you're getting some money from those hives. ![]() Jill |
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On 7/7/2020 8:06 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/7/2020 7:36 PM, Snag wrote: >> Â*Â* That's how they say it in some places in the south ... today I >> extracted 15 frames of honey , 5 and 10 each from my two strongest >> hives . The yield was 10 quarts and 10 pints , six of each have chunks >> of comb . I didn't check them frequently enough and there was a >> *cross-comb mess in both hives . Both had tons of honey even after I >> robbed them - and I didn't mind cutting that comb out of the frames >> and jarring it , I can charge a premium for "chunk honey" . At my >> asking price that's nearly 400 bucks worth of product . The tourist >> season is on and they're coming in droves , and this is the kind of >> stuff they look for ... >> Â*Â* *Each box , or "super" has 10 frames for the bees to draw out their >> comb , and usually they draw it out straight down the frames . >> Sometimes they jump from frame to frame , putting the comb crosswise >> to the frames . Makes harvesting difficult , because you have to cut >> the frames apart to extract the honey . And when you cut it , all the >> sweet goodness runs out all over the place . It's going to take me a >> month to find all the sticky and wipe it down . > > Sounds wonderful, Terry!Â* I sure do wish I had a use for honey.Â* I've > got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it.Â* But I'm > glad you're getting some money from those hives. ![]() > > Jill I like honey but use little. Great on toasted rye bread and butter. If you eat plain yogurt, drizzle some in. When I was younger and less concerned with calories I'd just eat a spoonful because it tasted good. |
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On 2020-07-07 10:02 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/7/2020 8:06 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> Sounds wonderful, Terry!Â* I sure do wish I had a use for honey.Â* I've >> got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it.Â* But I'm >> glad you're getting some money from those hives. ![]() >> >> Jill > > I like honey but use little.Â* Great on toasted rye bread and butter.Â* If > you eat plain yogurt, drizzle some in.Â* When I was younger and less > concerned with calories I'd just eat a spoonful because it tasted good. I go on honey sprees. I had a two pound jar of it that I used up over a period of a month or so. As soon as I was out I bought another two pond jar and I have not yet opened it. It is great on lightly toasted rye and even better on very well toasted white bread. I have a little problem eating straight yogurt, but a little drizzle of honey, about 1/4 tsp) makes it quite tasty. My father in law used to love honey. We would rip off a piece of toast and put a big spoonful of honey on it. We figured that he ate about 2pounds of honey per week. |
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 9:12:18 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > It is great on lightly toasted rye and even better on very well > toasted white bread. > Psst! Buttered hot biscuits. |
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On 7/7/2020 10:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/7/2020 8:06 PM, jmcquown wrote: >> On 7/7/2020 7:36 PM, Snag wrote: >>> Â*Â* That's how they say it in some places in the south ... today I >>> extracted 15 frames of honey , 5 and 10 each from my two strongest >>> hives . The yield was 10 quarts and 10 pints , six of each have >>> chunks of comb . I didn't check them frequently enough and there was >>> a *cross-comb mess in both hives . Both had tons of honey even after >>> I robbed them - and I didn't mind cutting that comb out of the frames >>> and jarring it , I can charge a premium for "chunk honey" . At my >>> asking price that's nearly 400 bucks worth of product . The tourist >>> season is on and they're coming in droves , and this is the kind of >>> stuff they look for ... >>> Â*Â* *Each box , or "super" has 10 frames for the bees to draw out >>> their comb , and usually they draw it out straight down the frames . >>> Sometimes they jump from frame to frame , putting the comb crosswise >>> to the frames . Makes harvesting difficult , because you have to cut >>> the frames apart to extract the honey . And when you cut it , all the >>> sweet goodness runs out all over the place . It's going to take me a >>> month to find all the sticky and wipe it down . >> >> Sounds wonderful, Terry!Â* I sure do wish I had a use for honey.Â* I've >> got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it.Â* But I'm >> glad you're getting some money from those hives. ![]() >> >> Jill > > I like honey but use little.Â* Great on toasted rye bread and butter.Â* If > you eat plain yogurt, drizzle some in.Â* When I was younger and less > concerned with calories I'd just eat a spoonful because it tasted good. I don't eat yogurt but I've been known to cook with plain yogurt in place of sour cream from time to time. ![]() tea, back when I drank tea, but that was more than 10 years ago. Jill |
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 7:06:29 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > I've > got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it. But I'm > glad you're getting some money from those hives. ![]() > > Jill > The wonderful thing about honey is it never goes bad. If it should get a bit grainy just put the jar in a pan of very warm to hot water. Presto! In just a little while you've got smooth honey again. |
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On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 10:14:02 PM UTC-5, graham wrote:
> > On 2020-07-07 8:20 p.m., wrote: > > > > The wonderful thing about honey is it never goes bad. If it should get a > > bit grainy just put the jar in a pan of very warm to hot water. Presto! > > In just a little while you've got smooth honey again. > > > Easier to nuke it in the MW. > Hmmmmmm, I've never thought of that! |
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On 7/7/2020 10:13 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2020-07-07 8:20 p.m., wrote: >> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 7:06:29 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: >>> >>> I've >>> got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it.Â* But I'm >>> glad you're getting some money from those hives. ![]() >>> >>> Jill >>> >> The wonderful thing about honey is it never goes bad.Â* If it should get a >> bit grainy just put the jar in a pan of very warm to hot water.Â* Presto! >> In just a little while you've got smooth honey again. >> > Easier to nuke it in the MW. SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey ! You kill all the microflora that give it it's unique properties . Many big operations heat their honey to thin it so it's easier to filter . And filtering takes out all the microfragments of pollen and the heating kills all the microflora . I process cold and the only filtration is 4 layers of cheesecloth to strain out the big stuff like wax fragments and the occasional wing or leg . But then I'm not running 1000 hives either ... I also do not treat my hives with chemicals . My bees were bred to be resistant to Varroa Destructor mites . Apparently those genetics are dominant in my immediate area because their resistance has remained unchanged for 6 years now . -- Snag Illegitimi non carborundum |
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:55:12 -0500, Snag > wrote:
>On 7/7/2020 10:13 PM, graham wrote: >>> >> Easier to nuke it in the MW. > > SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey ! You kill all the microflora >that give it it's unique properties . Many big operations heat their >honey to thin it so it's easier to filter . And filtering takes out all >the microfragments of pollen and the heating kills all the microflora . >I process cold and the only filtration is 4 layers of cheesecloth to >strain out the big stuff like wax fragments and the occasional wing or >leg . But then I'm not running 1000 hives either ... > I also do not treat my hives with chemicals . My bees were bred to be >resistant to Varroa Destructor mites . Apparently those genetics are >dominant in my immediate area because their resistance has remained >unchanged for 6 years now . There's an unexpected laudable hippie element in you. |
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On 2020-07-07 10:55 p.m., Snag wrote:
> On 7/7/2020 10:13 PM, graham wrote: >> On 2020-07-07 8:20 p.m., wrote: >>> On Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 7:06:29 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote: >>>> >>>> I've >>>> got a jar in the pantry dated 2006 and have yet to open it.Â* But I'm >>>> glad you're getting some money from those hives. ![]() >>>> >>>> Jill >>>> >>> The wonderful thing about honey is it never goes bad.Â* If it should >>> get a >>> bit grainy just put the jar in a pan of very warm to hot water.Â* Presto! >>> In just a little while you've got smooth honey again. >>> >> Easier to nuke it in the MW. > > Â*Â* SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey ! You kill all the microflora > that give it it's unique properties . Many big operations heat their > honey to thin it so it's easier to filter . And filtering takes out all > the microfragments of pollen and the heating kills all the microflora . > I process cold and the only filtration is 4 layers of cheesecloth to > strain out the big stuff like wax fragments and the occasional wing or > leg . But then I'm not running 1000 hives either ... > Â* I also do not treat my hives with chemicals . My bees were bred to be > resistant to Varroa Destructor mites . Apparently those genetics are > dominant in my immediate area because their resistance has remained > unchanged for 6 years now . The way I do it, the temperature doesn't get any higher than the warm water method. It just saves the bother of heating a pan of water. |
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On 2020-07-08, Snag > wrote:
> SHRIEK !! Never never never nuke honey! Too often, the label has "foil" in it, making nuking all but impossible. > Many big operations heat their honey to thin it so it's easier to > filter . And..... .....add sugar!! Honey is so adulterated, now, we do not allow honey to be imported from China, any longer. China exports it to places like Vietnam, Singapore, etc, which imports it to us! Don't you think it strange, ppl are demanding more and more honey, yet bee's are dying off? Perhaps that is why you are getting suck big returns from yer obviously "real" honey. > I also do not treat my hives with chemicals . My bees were bred to be > resistant to Varroa Destructor mites . Apparently those genetics are > dominant in my immediate area because their resistance has remained > unchanged for 6 years now . Good for you. BTW, how can I determine if honey is real. I jes "un-crystallized" a half a jar of organic honey (hot water). If it "crystallizes" at all, is it "real" honey? I've had crystallization occur to "true" maple syrup (very quickly). ![]() nb |
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On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 2:56:58 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 7/7/2020 10:20 PM, wrote: > > > > The wonderful thing about honey is it never goes bad. If it should get a > > bit grainy just put the jar in a pan of very warm to hot water. Presto! > > In just a little while you've got smooth honey again. > > > Yep, I've heard that. You mentioned honey on biscuits elsewhere in this > thread. I just never think about that jar of honey. <shrug> > > Jill > Make your Sunday breakfast this week hot buttered biscuits and honey. |
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