On 2020-07-12 6:44 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:21:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>
>>> "graham" wrote:
>>>> No! That's a pastie!
>>>
>>> Not in Brazil, it isn't.
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> lol
>>
>> In nearby Norfolk,Va, (a Navy town) a pastie is a small item
>> of clothing that a stripper/dancer wears.
>
> If graham had spelled "pasty" correctly, the ambiguity would have been
> prevented.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
OOOPS!!!!! Senior moment there!

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 9:27:47 AM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> On 2020-07-12 6:44 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:21:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> Ophelia wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "graham" wrote:
> >>>> No! That's a pastie!
> >>>
> >>> Not in Brazil, it isn't.
> >>>
> >>> ===
> >>>
> >>> lol
> >>
> >> In nearby Norfolk,Va, (a Navy town) a pastie is a small item
> >> of clothing that a stripper/dancer wears.
> >
> > If graham had spelled "pasty" correctly, the ambiguity would have been
> > prevented.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> OOOPS!!!!! Senior moment there!

I don't ordinarily correct spelling and grammar on Usenet, but sometimes
it's just too good to let slide.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2020-07-12 7:35 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 9:27:47 AM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>> On 2020-07-12 6:44 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 8:21:55 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "graham" wrote:
>>>>>> No! That's a pastie!
>>>>>
>>>>> Not in Brazil, it isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> lol
>>>>
>>>> In nearby Norfolk,Va, (a Navy town) a pastie is a small item
>>>> of clothing that a stripper/dancer wears.
>>>
>>> If graham had spelled "pasty" correctly, the ambiguity would have been
>>> prevented.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> OOOPS!!!!! Senior moment there!
>
> I don't ordinarily correct spelling and grammar on Usenet, but sometimes
> it's just too good to let slide.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I'm usually very careful about both.

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling. I think
> I make them once before and my then husband was not impressed as they were
> not authentic. Not many places make them here. I don't recall ever getting
> any in NY. I had my first one in Reno but didn't like it as they used only
> Ricotta for the filling. Had them many times in PA where they used Ricotta
> mixed with other cheeses.
>
> One thing all had in common was there was no sauce inside. Sauce was served
> on the side to dip them in.
>
> I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find many
> recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
> cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
> triangles. rectangles, etc.
>
> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside. How do you
> make yours?

I served these at the restaurant.

https://www.hizzoners.com/index.php/...inach-calzones

"graham" > wrote:
> On 2020-07-11 8:06 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 1:15:23 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling. I
>>> think
>>> I make them once before and my then husband was not impressed as they
>>> were
>>> not authentic. Not many places make them here. I don't recall ever
>>> getting
>>> any in NY. I had my first one in Reno but didn't like it as they used
>>> only
>>> Ricotta for the filling. Had them many times in PA where they used
>>> Ricotta
>>> mixed with other cheeses.
>>>
>>> One thing all had in common was there was no sauce inside. Sauce was
>>> served
>>> on the side to dip them in.
>>>
>>> I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find
>>> many
>>> recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
>>> cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
>>> triangles. rectangles, etc.
>>>
>>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside. How do
>>> you
>>> make yours?
>>
>> You can make your calzone any way you like - unless you're cooking for
>> your spouse. You can fold it any way you like too. I don't make calzone
>> because I prefer a hand pie made with short crust rather than pizza
>> dough -
>
> No! That's a pastie!

How do you know, though? Like how do you know if Chicago deep dish is really pizza or not.

On 7/12/2020 5:32 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 7/11/2020 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside.
>>
>> To you, a Calzone is a piece of nothing baked dough.
>
> Why did you snip a relevant part of what she wrote?
>
> Julie said:
>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce
>> inside. How do you make yours?"
>
> Rather than writing as "mean Jill," you could have
> offered a recipe idea. Or you could have just not
> responded at all.
>
We could say the same thing about you. In the baked buffalo chicken
wings thread you completely snipped my method for making "buffalo wings"
in the oven under the the broiler rather than frying. You focused
instead on me saying I discard the wing tips, not worth saving even for
stock. Apparently in your mind that means I've never made chicken
stock. You'd be wrong about that. You're wrong about so many things.

Jill

On 7/12/2020 9:58 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling. I think
>> I make them once before and my then husband was not impressed as they were
>> not authentic. Not many places make them here. I don't recall ever getting
>> any in NY. I had my first one in Reno but didn't like it as they used only
>> Ricotta for the filling. Had them many times in PA where they used Ricotta
>> mixed with other cheeses.
>>
>> One thing all had in common was there was no sauce inside. Sauce was served
>> on the side to dip them in.
>>
>> I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find many
>> recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
>> cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
>> triangles. rectangles, etc.
>>
>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside. How do you
>> make yours?
>
> I served these at the restaurant.
>
> https://www.hizzoners.com/index.php/...inach-calzones
>
I love that, thank you Mags! Just cheeses and spinach, no sauce on the
inside.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:
>
> On 7/12/2020 5:32 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/11/2020 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside.
> >>
> >> To you, a Calzone is a piece of nothing baked dough.
> >
> > Why did you snip a relevant part of what she wrote?
> >
> > Julie said:
> >> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce
> >> inside. How do you make yours?"
> >
> > Rather than writing as "mean Jill," you could have
> > offered a recipe idea. Or you could have just not
> > responded at all.
> >
> We could say the same thing about you. In the baked buffalo chicken
> wings thread you completely snipped my method for making "buffalo wings"
> in the oven under the the broiler rather than frying. You focused
> instead on me saying I discard the wing tips, not worth saving even for
> stock. Apparently in your mind that means I've never made chicken
> stock. You'd be wrong about that. You're wrong about so many things.

What I snipped was not relevant to my comment to you.
Who cares how you make chicken wings?

You said, and I quoted:
> Discarded the tips, they aren't worth the
> time, no not even for stock.

That's what I quoted as that was the only thing I was responding
to. That is proper snipping for Usenet.

Get real, girl. Maybe get out of the house more and not just out
on your back patio.

Better yet, when you respond emotionally, save as draft, sleep on
it then read again in the morning before deciding whether to send
or not.

As far as you making chicken stock? Maybe once years ago. You
wouldn't toss out any chicken part if you did. If so, that
would be kinda dumb to do.

BTW, your method of making buffalo wings was quite odd too.
I'm even doubting now that you've made those.
Your method is so wrong.

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 6:28:31 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Bryan Simmons" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 6:33:24 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:15:14 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> > I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling.
> >>
> >> Boring.
> >>
> >> I'm picturing one of the "As Seen On TV" kitchen gimmicks where they
> >> show some bobblehead breaking eggs all over the stove.
> >>
> >> Here it is:
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XILbEZlS0U
> >>
> >> That's Julie trying to make calzones.
> >>
> >> > I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find
> >> > many
> >> > recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
> >> > cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
> >> > triangles. rectangles, etc.
> >>
> >> Where in the **** are you looking up these recipes? Calzones are
> >> mixed Italian cheeses with ricotta and (should be) some sort of
> >> meat. Optional green pepper and onion. Marinara on the side.
> >>
> >> You'd be better of just making a grilled cheese sandwich.
> >
> > One thing I don't get about Julie is why she has that awful pic of her
> > face that appears on GoogleGroups. One thing I've noticed is that most
> > people look better wearing Covid-19 masks. Julie would benefit more than
> > most if her face were masked.
>
> I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not on Google Groups.

Oh, yes you are oh teller of tall tales...in all of your glory.
====

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 11:49:43 PM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 1:15:23 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling. I
> > think
> > I make them once before and my then husband was not impressed as they were
> > not authentic. Not many places make them here. I don't recall ever getting
> > any in NY. I had my first one in Reno but didn't like it as they used only
> > Ricotta for the filling. Had them many times in PA where they used Ricotta
> > mixed with other cheeses.
> >
> > One thing all had in common was there was no sauce inside. Sauce was
> > served
> > on the side to dip them in.
> >
> > I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find many
> > recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
> > cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
> > triangles. rectangles, etc.
> >
> > To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside. How do
> > you
> > make yours?
>
> You can make your calzone any way you like - unless you're cooking for your
> spouse. You can fold it any way you like too. I don't make calzone because I
> prefer a hand pie made with short crust rather than pizza dough - but I used
> to make them just fine. The question is got is "is it a calzone if it's made
> with short crust?"
>
> Here's a couple of calzone made with pizza dough.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...YbDE3vC3rX_kFv
>
> ===
>
> I like the look of that! Not something I have seen before though.
> Recipe please?

Those things were made so long ago that I have no idea what they were stuffed with. Mostly, they are pizza dough stuffed with pizza stuff. It might have been that I was making a pizza and decided to change course in midstream.. That could happen when making pizzas.

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 1:11:13 AM UTC-10, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 8:53:21 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 3:37:32 PM UTC-10, CookinYeti wrote:
> > > I think food should be enjoyed how you want to, so if you like it, keep eating it.
> > > But that being said, I prefer my calzones to be like a heavy loaded pizza folded in half. You have more structure to cram more tasty food in there.
> > > I think having sauce helps prevent dryness and adds more flavor. But beware, a soggy calzone is a sad calzone to me.
> > >
> > > Have you ever tried a pastel? Its a Brazilian food like a calzone, in that it is dough stuffed with meats and cheese, in any combination you like. Although it is fried, not baked. Not very healthy but it sure is tasty!
> >
> > Why yes, everybody knows that a fried pie is better than a baked pie on any day of the week.
> >
> > http://www.honolulumagazine.com/Hono.../#.XwpsGHXYqto
>
> My son suggested that we buy a third fryer, dedicated to donuts and such. The big fryer is for meat and potatoes, and the little one is for fish. We really don't have room for it. The house is huge, but the kitchen is small.
>
> --Bryan

Fryers are good - but a little scary. We once checked out a house that had a built-in fryer. It was a Chinese style house with a galley kitchen that was open on both ends. I would have enjoyed cooking and frying in such a kitchen.

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 7:33:00 AM UTC-7, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/12/2020 9:58 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling. I think
> >> I make them once before and my then husband was not impressed as they were
> >> not authentic. Not many places make them here. I don't recall ever getting
> >> any in NY. I had my first one in Reno but didn't like it as they used only
> >> Ricotta for the filling. Had them many times in PA where they used Ricotta
> >> mixed with other cheeses.
> >>
> >> One thing all had in common was there was no sauce inside. Sauce was served
> >> on the side to dip them in.
> >>
> >> I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find many
> >> recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
> >> cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
> >> triangles. rectangles, etc.
> >>
> >> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside. How do you
> >> make yours?
> >
> > I served these at the restaurant.
> >
> > https://www.hizzoners.com/index.php/...inach-calzones
> >
> I love that, thank you Mags! Just cheeses and spinach, no sauce on the
> inside.
>
> Jill

you're welcome. They were always a sell out, people loved them.

On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 08:21:50 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>> "graham" wrote:
>> > No! That's a pastie!
>>
>> Not in Brazil, it isn't.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> lol
>
>In nearby Norfolk,Va, (a Navy town) a pastie is a small item
>of clothing that a stripper/dancer wears.

Yeah:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpv7v-HDgaM>

On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:05:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

>"graham" > wrote:
>> On 2020-07-11 8:06 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>
>>> You can make your calzone any way you like - unless you're cooking for
>>> your spouse. You can fold it any way you like too. I don't make calzone
>>> because I prefer a hand pie made with short crust rather than pizza
>>> dough -
>>
>> No! That's a pastie!
>
>How do you know, though? Like how do you know if Chicago deep dish is really pizza or not.

Easy. Pizzas are Italian. Chicago isn't in Italy.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:28:22 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Bryan Simmons" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 6:33:24 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:15:14 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling.
>>>>
>>>> Boring.
>>>>
>>>> I'm picturing one of the "As Seen On TV" kitchen gimmicks where they
>>>> show some bobblehead breaking eggs all over the stove.
>>>>
>>>> Here it is:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XILbEZlS0U
>>>>
>>>> That's Julie trying to make calzones.
>>>>
>>>> > I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find
>>>> > many
>>>> > recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
>>>> > cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
>>>> > triangles. rectangles, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Where in the **** are you looking up these recipes? Calzones are
>>>> mixed Italian cheeses with ricotta and (should be) some sort of
>>>> meat. Optional green pepper and onion. Marinara on the side.
>>>>
>>>> You'd be better of just making a grilled cheese sandwich.
>>>
>>> One thing I don't get about Julie is why she has that awful pic of her
>>> face that appears on GoogleGroups. One thing I've noticed is that most
>>> people look better wearing Covid-19 masks. Julie would benefit more
>>> than
>>> most if her face were masked.
>>
>> I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not on Google Groups.
>
> You have a picture attached to your google account. It shows it on
> your postings on Google Groups even though they're not posted Google
> Groups. Before you object and lie, maybe you should look at Google
> Groups first...
>
> It's the same hideous picture on your Facebook page, too. And on
> your Frontier.net website (here we go again...I think that was
> courtesy of Bryan IIRC).

That pic was never on my Frontier website. And no, it's not there. I did
check when I transferred my files to my new computer and that link came up.

If you find it hideous? Oh well. I don't care.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Julie Bove" wrote:
>>
>> "graham" wrote:
>> > No! That's a pastie!
>>
>> Not in Brazil, it isn't.
>>
>> ===
>>
>> lol
>
> In nearby Norfolk,Va, (a Navy town) a pastie is a small item
> of clothing that a stripper/dancer wears.

Here too!

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:05:53 -0700 (PDT),
> wrote:
>
>>"graham" > wrote:
>>> On 2020-07-11 8:06 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> You can make your calzone any way you like - unless you're cooking for
>>>> your spouse. You can fold it any way you like too. I don't make calzone
>>>> because I prefer a hand pie made with short crust rather than pizza
>>>> dough -
>>>
>>> No! That's a pastie!
>>
>>How do you know, though? Like how do you know if Chicago deep dish is
>>really pizza or not.
>
> Easy. Pizzas are Italian. Chicago isn't in Italy.

We have a local FB food group. A woman recently posted a pic of a pizza with
a rather thick crust and asked,"Where can I get a real, Italian pizza like
this, here?" We all laughed. That pizza didn't resemble any pizza made in
Italy and clearly it was something made here as it had the red and white
checkered tablecloth underneath it as well as a shaker of Kraft Parmesan
cheese.

"CookinYeti" > wrote in message
...
Just to clarify my comment about pastels of Brazil. They are thin dough
folded around fillings. Normally not filled with sauce. Can be made with
what ever you like. I knew a guy who always got mozzarella and cheddar for
some reason. Not my thing but hey to each there own.

Brazilian fast-food:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastel_(food)

And they ae fried. Calzones are not.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 7/11/2020 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside.
>>
>> To you, a Calzone is a piece of nothing baked dough.
>
> Why did you snip a relevant part of what she wrote?
>
> Julie said:
>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce
>> inside. How do you make yours?"
>
> Rather than writing as "mean Jill," you could have
> offered a recipe idea. Or you could have just not
> responded at all.

I asked my Canadian/Italian friend last night. He said a cheese calzone
should never have sauce inside but he does put sauce in his eggplant ones.

"ImStillMags" > wrote in message
...
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 4:15:23 PM UTC-7, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I'm going to make Calzones for dinner. Just cheese for the filling. I
>> think
>> I make them once before and my then husband was not impressed as they
>> were
>> not authentic. Not many places make them here. I don't recall ever
>> getting
>> any in NY. I had my first one in Reno but didn't like it as they used
>> only
>> Ricotta for the filling. Had them many times in PA where they used
>> Ricotta
>> mixed with other cheeses.
>>
>> One thing all had in common was there was no sauce inside. Sauce was
>> served
>> on the side to dip them in.
>>
>> I was looking at recipes to get a bake time/temp. It was hard to find
>> many
>> recipes for just cheese. Most were broccoli and cheese or spinach and
>> cheese. And most had sauce inside. Also, many were made into squares,
>> triangles. rectangles, etc.
>>
>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside. How do
>> you
>> make yours?
>
> I served these at the restaurant.
>
> https://www.hizzoners.com/index.php/...inach-calzones

Thanks!

On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:32:20 -0400, Gary wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 7/11/2020 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside.
>>
>> To you, a Calzone is a piece of nothing baked dough.
>
> Why did you snip a relevant part of what she wrote?
>
> Julie said:
>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce
>> inside. How do you make yours?"
>
> Rather than writing as "mean Jill," you could have
> offered a recipe idea. Or you could have just not
> responded at all.

Sound like Gary didn't get laid again last night.

-sw

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 7:21:24 PM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 07:05:53 -0700 (PDT),
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"graham" > wrote:
> >>> On 2020-07-11 8:06 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> >>>>
> >>>> You can make your calzone any way you like - unless you're cooking for
> >>>> your spouse. You can fold it any way you like too. I don't make calzone
> >>>> because I prefer a hand pie made with short crust rather than pizza
> >>>> dough -
> >>>
> >>> No! That's a pastie!
> >>
> >>How do you know, though? Like how do you know if Chicago deep dish is
> >>really pizza or not.
> >
> > Easy. Pizzas are Italian. Chicago isn't in Italy.
>
> We have a local FB food group. A woman recently posted a pic of a pizza with
> a rather thick crust and asked,"Where can I get a real, Italian pizza like
> this, here?" We all laughed. That pizza didn't resemble any pizza made in
> Italy and clearly it was something made here as it had the red and white
> checkered tablecloth underneath it as well as a shaker of Kraft Parmesan
> cheese.

If you think all Italian pizzas have thin crust, you don't know jack.
Check out Sicilian pizza.

Cindy Hamilton

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 05:32:20 -0400, Gary wrote:
>
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> On 7/11/2020 7:15 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce inside.
> >>
> >> To you, a Calzone is a piece of nothing baked dough.
> >
> > Why did you snip a relevant part of what she wrote?
> >
> > Julie said:
> >> To me, a Calzone is a folded over circle and has no sauce
> >> inside. How do you make yours?"
> >
> > Rather than writing as "mean Jill," you could have
> > offered a recipe idea. Or you could have just not
> > responded at all.
>
> Sound like Gary didn't get laid again last night.
>
> -sw

So what else is new? Ask me if I care.