On 8/16/2020 9:14 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
> On 16/08/2020 12:04, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:58:12 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> Once I had cable Internet in 2000, I downloaded video from Usenet
>>>> binary groups and IRC. Some of the IRC channels were very good back
>>>> then, people would share TV content merely minutes after it aired in
>>>> say, the U.S. I was and still am interested mostly in documentaries.
>>>> Later, bittorrent of course. And now, various other ways.
>>>
>>> I'm concerned that some of those might violate the intellectual
>>> property right
>>> of the copyright holders.Â* I wouldn't want it to happen to the
>>> software that
>>> I write, so I practice the Golden Rule.
>>
>> LOL
>>
> I share Cindy's attitude.

Ditto!

Jill

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 14:14:11 +0100, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 16/08/2020 12:04, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:58:12 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>>>> Once I had cable Internet in 2000, I downloaded video from Usenet
>>>> binary groups and IRC. Some of the IRC channels were very good back
>>>> then, people would share TV content merely minutes after it aired in
>>>> say, the U.S. I was and still am interested mostly in documentaries.
>>>> Later, bittorrent of course. And now, various other ways.
>>>
>>> I'm concerned that some of those might violate the intellectual property right
>>> of the copyright holders. I wouldn't want it to happen to the software that
>>> I write, so I practice the Golden Rule.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>I share Cindy's attitude.

It's a formal, goodie two-shoes attitude that I can only applaud you
for. In reality, companies using Cindy's software don't want to do so
illegally. They'll want to be able to get support, updates, etc. All
the software I use for work is legal and paid for.

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:21:59 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/16/2020 9:14 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 16/08/2020 12:04, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:58:12 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>> Once I had cable Internet in 2000, I downloaded video from Usenet
>>>>> binary groups and IRC. Some of the IRC channels were very good back
>>>>> then, people would share TV content merely minutes after it aired in
>>>>> say, the U.S. I was and still am interested mostly in documentaries.
>>>>> Later, bittorrent of course. And now, various other ways.
>>>>
>>>> I'm concerned that some of those might violate the intellectual
>>>> property right
>>>> of the copyright holders.Â* I wouldn't want it to happen to the
>>>> software that
>>>> I write, so I practice the Golden Rule.
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>> I share Cindy's attitude.
>
>Ditto!

Clueless, but jumping on the bandwagon nevertheless.. Kinda touching

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 09:21:59 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/16/2020 9:14 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 16/08/2020 12:04, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>>> On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:58:12 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>>>>>> Once I had cable Internet in 2000, I downloaded video from Usenet
>>>>>> binary groups and IRC. Some of the IRC channels were very good back
>>>>>> then, people would share TV content merely minutes after it aired in
>>>>>> say, the U.S. I was and still am interested mostly in documentaries.
>>>>>> Later, bittorrent of course. And now, various other ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm concerned that some of those might violate the intellectual
>>>>> property right
>>>>> of the copyright holders.ÂÂ* I wouldn't want it to happen to the
>>>>> software that
>>>>> I write, so I practice the Golden Rule.
>>>>
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>> I share Cindy's attitude.
>>
>> Ditto!
>
> Clueless, but jumping on the bandwagon nevertheless.. Kinda touching
>
>

<*SNIFF*>

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 03:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 15, 2020 at 5:58:12 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2020 03:07:47 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, August 14, 2020 at 4:39:35 PM UTC-4, Jeßus wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 08:57:00 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On 2020-08-14 7:18 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> >> >> Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> >> >>> There was no sell. Twice the channels at half the price of cable, and
>> >> >>> much better reception. DISH is fantastic.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've known 3 local people that switched from cable to Dish and
>> >> >> the same initial reaction like you have. So wonderful!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At first they raved about it.
>> >> >> Then they stopped talking about it.
>> >> >> Within 4 months or so, it sucked and they switched back
>> >> >> to cable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >That sounds a bit like Netflix. When you first get it there are all
>> >> >sorts of things to watch. After a while you have seen everything worth
>> >> >seeing. .... says me who just opened my own Netflix account.
>> >>
>> >> I find any kind of paid format such as Netflix, or TV, boring, limited
>> >> and essentially a waste of money. Some obviously get value out of
>> >> it... good for them, but I don't understand it.
>> >
>> >What's your alternative?
>> >
>> >Cindy Hamilton
>> Well, going back before I had broadband Internet, books. Strictly all
>> non-fiction titles, apart from Hunter S. Thompson. I basically lost
>> interest in TV in my late teens. And VHS/DVDs.
>>
>> Oh... one exception was I did record the Simpsons back then (when they
>> were still actually satirical and clever).
>>
>> Once I had cable Internet in 2000, I downloaded video from Usenet
>> binary groups and IRC. Some of the IRC channels were very good back
>> then, people would share TV content merely minutes after it aired in
>> say, the U.S. I was and still am interested mostly in documentaries.
>> Later, bittorrent of course. And now, various other ways.
>
>I'm concerned that some of those might violate the intellectual property right
>of the copyright holders. I wouldn't want it to happen to the software that
>I write, so I practice the Golden Rule.

I'm not concerned at all.

Firstly, there is essentially nothing of interest to me that is
accessible from Australian media, so no copyright holder is losing
anything.

Secondly, in the cases where I really like something copyrighted and
wish to see/hear it multiple times , I'll buy it (usually CDs or DVDs
or occasionally downloadable)

Thirdly, a lot of the material I'm interested in these days can be
legally streamed for free - I just download it for later viewing and
delete it.

Fourthly, in the case of major media outlets, I honestly couldn't care
about them or their 'intellectual property'

Fifthly (?) your comparison with software copyright is a different
situation, IMO. It is designed for commercial use and requires
updates/support. It is not merely for education or entertainment
purposes.


>> The idea of waiting/sitting down at a certain day/time to watch
>> something (usually with commercials) is quite simply a NO for me. I
>> can't do it.
>
>That's why I have a DVR.

And what would I do with a DVR (which does the same thing as I do,
only with less convenience anyway)?