On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 8:54:08 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 09:18:04 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 10:58:21 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >>
> >> These days most vegetable gardeners freeze their crops, far more
> >> efficient and safer than canning. Some can for fun and to see if they
> >> can do it.
> >>
> >Properly canned foods are as safe if not safer than frozen food. No worries
> >about losing power and losing frozen food if you are without electricity
> >for days or weeks. No freezer burn either if you were sloppy about your
> >method for wrapping or sealing frozen items.
>
> A lot of home canners don't carefully follow the rules and they cause
> sickness and even death. Freezing is far safer, and there is no
> freezer burn associated with produce, only with meats. And no one
> gets sick from freezer burn. Commercially frozen produce is extremely
> safe, far safer than any home canned produce.

Canning and freezing - that's so old-fashioned. The future of home food preserving is freeze drying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzoHJn1lo_w

wrote:
> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 1:54:08 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 09:18:04 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Properly canned foods are as safe if not safer than frozen food. No worries
>>> about losing power and losing frozen food if you are without electricity
>>> for days or weeks. No freezer burn either if you were sloppy about your
>>> method for wrapping or sealing frozen items.
>>
>> A lot of home canners don't carefully follow the rules and they cause
>> sickness and even death. Freezing is far safer, and there is no
>> freezer burn associated with produce, only with meats. And no one
>> gets sick from freezer burn. Commercially frozen produce is extremely
>> safe, far safer than any home canned produce.
>>
> If they're sloppy with their home canning then they deserve to get sick.
> But an experienced canner r.a.r.e.l.y. has a seal failure. When they do
> they can spot it immediately and discard that jar.
>
> True, nobody ever got sick from freezer burn, but who wants to eat leathery
> bits of meat? Most commercially processed frozen produce has a limited
> shelf time. Why do you think grocery stores have frequent sales on frozen
> vegetables? They're getting close to their expiration date.
>

Are you trying to reason with Popeye? That's a fool's errand joan.

This nautical idiot eschews any canning, unless it's canned beans,
He won't eat any other beans ... they MUST be canned, by god!

Else, its Popeye TIAD.

Can yoose say IRONY?

And ... mushrooms must be dried ... got it?

dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 8:54:08 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 09:18:04 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, August 22, 2020 at 10:58:21 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These days most vegetable gardeners freeze their crops, far more
>>>> efficient and safer than canning. Some can for fun and to see if they
>>>> can do it.
>>>>
>>> Properly canned foods are as safe if not safer than frozen food. No worries
>>> about losing power and losing frozen food if you are without electricity
>>> for days or weeks. No freezer burn either if you were sloppy about your
>>> method for wrapping or sealing frozen items.
>>
>> A lot of home canners don't carefully follow the rules and they cause
>> sickness and even death. Freezing is far safer, and there is no
>> freezer burn associated with produce, only with meats. And no one
>> gets sick from freezer burn. Commercially frozen produce is extremely
>> safe, far safer than any home canned produce.
>
> Canning and freezing - that's so old-fashioned. The future of home food preserving is freeze drying.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzoHJn1lo_w
>

Yep, in the future, my guess is we will have magic preservation
devices, and replicators, so we can scan the shit, and later
reproduce it.

First, it will come to the special asian rock people, then later,
goddamn honkeys will figure it out. They hate us chinks. Damn.

My guess is that soon, in the future, even non-asians will have
replicators implanted at birth. But they'll need an ID card in
hawaii. That's the breaks on the rock,

I'm Zooming off now in the my uncle buck's star fighter.
Sure wish he hadn't left that pile of shit in the floorboard, but
he WAS Hawaiian.

On 8/22/2020 8:18 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Here's a picture of *both* my grandparents' houses:
>>
>> https://www.trulia.com/p/oh/mc-donal...37--2046279168
>>
>> Dad lived in the house on the left. Mom in the house on the right.
>
> So your parents really did live that close. He *did* marry the
> girl next door. Cool.
>
Did you think I was was making it up? Yes, he literally married the
girl next door. They all grew up together, went to school together,
knew each other, siblings and had mutual friends.

> Old saying, "Mom, apple pie, and the girl next door."
>
Yeah, that's the old saying. I don't remember either grandmother baking
apple pies. Lots of bread baking and fruit canning, though.

> Also...amazing price there. Multiply that by about 5 to get a
> value in my area for the same house and property.
>
Those houses were part of a "company town" (Carnegie Steel - later US
Steel). On the fairly rare occasions when I went to visit I can
remember seeing the sky lit bright orange when they were smelting the steel.

IIRC, the mill shut down in the 1980's. Now it's just a very small town
with a population under 4000. With a lot of very old houses. Homes are
cheap because there is no work.

I remember both of those houses. Grandma Mac had a clawfoot tub in the
bathroom. And the laundry chutes. Grandma Brown's house had the second
kitchen in the basement where she did her canning and anything too
"messy" to be done upstairs.

Jill

On 2020 Aug 24, , jmcquown wrote
(in article >):

> Those houses were part of a "company town" (Carnegie Steel - later US
> Steel). On the fairly rare occasions when I went to visit I can
> remember seeing the sky lit bright orange when they were smelting the steel.

Hey! My wife grew up in a company town. I did a couple of summer jobs in
another. Both were associated with mining, hers copper and mine tungsten.
Both are long gone with one repurposed as retirement homes.
I owe my soul to the company store.

leo

On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 7:27:40 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Aug 24, , jmcquown wrote
> (in article >):
>
> > Those houses were part of a "company town" (Carnegie Steel - later US
> > Steel). On the fairly rare occasions when I went to visit I can
> > remember seeing the sky lit bright orange when they were smelting the steel.
>
> Hey! My wife grew up in a company town. I did a couple of summer jobs in
> another. Both were associated with mining, hers copper and mine tungsten.
> Both are long gone with one repurposed as retirement homes.
> I owe my soul to the company store.
>
> leo

On this rock, they were called "plantation village." We lived in a plantation era duplex back in the 70's. My wife found it and thought we could save 100 bucks on our rent. It was a creaky and creepy place. The Buddhists next door would be chanting sutras late at night. The funny part was that I never met our neighbors or saw anybody come out of that place. We'd get some giant cockroaches flying in at night. We'd have to stop everything to hunt that beast down when that occurred.

When we moved in we fixed up the place by putting in a more modern refrigerator, installed flooring and carpets, and panted the place. We only stayed a couple of months before we decided to move to CA. That's kids for you - we tended towards rash decisions. Ha ha.

I was certainly glad to get out of that joint. It was far too creepy. Waking up in the light of morning was a big relief. We were certainly on edge and expecting to see some ghostly crap going on but we never did. Perhaps the chanting next door kept the evil spirits away. Well alright Buddha!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA4rRoffRDs