On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:22:59 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 01:00 24 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:52:01 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 19:00 23 Aug 2020, John Kuthe said:
>>>>
>>>> Nope, I have Bipolar Disorder and my psychiatrist is cannabis too,
>>>> because she KNOWS cannabis can ease my Bipolar Symptoms better than the
>>>> Seroquel she prescribes for me!
>>>
>>>Don't bank on it.
>>>
>>>Cannabis is likely to go the way trendy meds, like Prozac, went.
>>
>> LOL. Cannabis (as we all know) has been used medicinally for thousands
>> of years. I suspect it's a 'fad' that won't go away.
>
>The use or misue of a herb is not an indicator of safety. The Chinese used
>Aristolochia Fangchi medicinally since time immemorial and it's now
>considered highly dangerous.
>
>>>After the launch hype Prozac turned out to be only partially effective for
>>>most patients and have plenty more side effects than was realised at first.
>>
>> No drug is a one size fits all deal.
>
>Prozac failed to live up to its hype by a huge amount.


I have no idea what your point is. Unless you're saying taking
anything that can be classed as a drug or medication is bad?

On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:

> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:22:59 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
>>On 01:00 24 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:52:01 +0100, Pamela >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 19:00 23 Aug 2020, John Kuthe said:
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, I have Bipolar Disorder and my psychiatrist is cannabis too,
>>>>> because she KNOWS cannabis can ease my Bipolar Symptoms better than
>>>>> the Seroquel she prescribes for me!
>>>>
>>>>Don't bank on it.
>>>>
>>>>Cannabis is likely to go the way trendy meds, like Prozac, went.
>>>
>>> LOL. Cannabis (as we all know) has been used medicinally for thousands
>>> of years. I suspect it's a 'fad' that won't go away.
>>
>>The use or misue of a herb is not an indicator of safety. The Chinese
>>used Aristolochia Fangchi medicinally since time immemorial and it's now
>>considered highly dangerous.
>>
>>>>After the launch hype Prozac turned out to be only partially effective
>>>>for most patients and have plenty more side effects than was realised
>>>>at first.
>>>
>>> No drug is a one size fits all deal.
>>
>>Prozac failed to live up to its hype by a huge amount.
>
> I have no idea what your point is. Unless you're saying taking anything
> that can be classed as a drug or medication is bad?

I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely examined
product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success amongst users
turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it. Users like John
Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems unlikely.

I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation honeymoon
phase but it won't last for ever.

"The complete effect of legalizing and commercializing marijuana on
consumers' mental health and their educational outcomes is expected to
take a longer duration prior to its achievement; unfortunately, fewer
merits are anticipated.

Most of the reports evaluated in this article proved to be marred with
inconsistencies. Many of the stated claims did not pass a methodical
evaluation. Going forward, additional data from available sources will
lead to stronger conclusions."

From "Public Health Concerns of Marijuana Legalization"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6837267/

On 22:55 27 Aug 2020, Pamela said:

> On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:22:59 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 01:00 24 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:52:01 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 19:00 23 Aug 2020, John Kuthe said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I have Bipolar Disorder and my psychiatrist is cannabis too,
>>>>>> because she KNOWS cannabis can ease my Bipolar Symptoms better than
>>>>>> the Seroquel she prescribes for me!
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't bank on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cannabis is likely to go the way trendy meds, like Prozac, went.
>>>>
>>>> LOL. Cannabis (as we all know) has been used medicinally for
>>>> thousands of years. I suspect it's a 'fad' that won't go away.
>>>
>>>The use or misue of a herb is not an indicator of safety. The Chinese
>>>used Aristolochia Fangchi medicinally since time immemorial and it's
>>>now considered highly dangerous.
>>>
>>>>>After the launch hype Prozac turned out to be only partially
>>>>>effective for most patients and have plenty more side effects than
>>>>>was realised at first.
>>>>
>>>> No drug is a one size fits all deal.
>>>
>>>Prozac failed to live up to its hype by a huge amount.
>>
>> I have no idea what your point is. Unless you're saying taking anything
>> that can be classed as a drug or medication is bad?
>
> I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely
> examined product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success
> amongst users turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it.
> Users like John Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which
> seems unlikely.
>
> I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation
> honeymoon phase but it won't last for ever.
>
> "The complete effect of legalizing and commercializing marijuana on
> consumers' mental health and their educational outcomes is expected
> to take a longer duration prior to its achievement; unfortunately,
> fewer merits are anticipated.
>
> Most of the reports evaluated in this article proved to be marred
> with inconsistencies. Many of the stated claims did not pass a
> methodical evaluation. Going forward, additional data from available
> sources will lead to stronger conclusions."
>
> From "Public Health Concerns of Marijuana Legalization"
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6837267/

Correction: didn't mean Prozac for John but marijuana.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:55:36 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>
>I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely examined
>product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success amongst users
>turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it. Users like John
>Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems unlikely.
>
>I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation honeymoon
>phase but it won't last for ever.

"We"? Some countries legalised it decades ago. Anglo countries are
always behind.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:55:36 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:22:59 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 01:00 24 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:52:01 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 19:00 23 Aug 2020, John Kuthe said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope, I have Bipolar Disorder and my psychiatrist is cannabis too,
>>>>>> because she KNOWS cannabis can ease my Bipolar Symptoms better than
>>>>>> the Seroquel she prescribes for me!
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't bank on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cannabis is likely to go the way trendy meds, like Prozac, went.
>>>>
>>>> LOL. Cannabis (as we all know) has been used medicinally for thousands
>>>> of years. I suspect it's a 'fad' that won't go away.
>>>
>>>The use or misue of a herb is not an indicator of safety. The Chinese
>>>used Aristolochia Fangchi medicinally since time immemorial and it's now
>>>considered highly dangerous.
>>>
>>>>>After the launch hype Prozac turned out to be only partially effective
>>>>>for most patients and have plenty more side effects than was realised
>>>>>at first.
>>>>
>>>> No drug is a one size fits all deal.
>>>
>>>Prozac failed to live up to its hype by a huge amount.
>>
>> I have no idea what your point is. Unless you're saying taking anything
>> that can be classed as a drug or medication is bad?
>
>I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely examined
>product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success amongst users
>turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it.

That's not uncommon, so I agree with that.

> Users like John
>Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems unlikely.

Cannabis? Perhaps. John has psychological issues, so hard for either
of us to claim efficacy one way or the other.

>I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation honeymoon
>phase but it won't last for ever.

Yes, but you seem to have a particular problem specifically with
cannabis? I don't understand why.

> "The complete effect of legalizing and commercializing marijuana on
> consumers' mental health and their educational outcomes is expected to
> take a longer duration prior to its achievement; unfortunately, fewer
> merits are anticipated.
>
> Most of the reports evaluated in this article proved to be marred with
> inconsistencies. Many of the stated claims did not pass a methodical
> evaluation. Going forward, additional data from available sources will
> lead to stronger conclusions."
>
>From "Public Health Concerns of Marijuana Legalization"
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6837267/

I didn't look at the link. But I'll just say again that all
drugs/pharmaceuticals can be good or bad for any particular person,
for all sorts of reasons but particularly genetics. Just in the same
way that certain diets work for some people but not others.

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:55:36 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
>> On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>>
>> I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely examined
>> product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success amongst users
>> turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it. Users like John
>> Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems unlikely.
>>
>> I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation honeymoon
>> phase but it won't last for ever.
>
> "We"? Some countries legalised it decades ago. Anglo countries are
> always behind.
>

Indeed, now you take the neither lands ... everything is legal and
available. But it's very hard to get nut cases into that magical
country.

Kuth couldn't emigrate, even with a dutch buttsniffer signing for him,

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:55:36 +0100, Pamela >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
> >>
> >> I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely examined
> >> product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success amongst users
> >> turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it. Users like John
> >> Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems unlikely.
> >>
> >> I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation honeymoon
> >> phase but it won't last for ever.
> >
> > "We"? Some countries legalised it decades ago. Anglo countries are
> > always behind.
> >
>
> Indeed, now you take the neither lands ... everything is legal and
> available. But it's very hard to get nut cases into that magical
> country.
>
> Kuth couldn't emigrate, even with a dutch buttsniffer signing for him,

OK, I answered your question, and now I'm going to ask you one. I understand why you call Sheldon, "Popeye," but what's with the "Dutch" and "butt sniffing"? I'm just curious. I swear that I'm not working on a dissertation for a doctorate in Anthropology. Heck, I dropped out of college in my junior year to start a punk rock band.

--Bryan
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/brya...-176j5weg.html

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 6:21:05 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> >
> > Kuth couldn't emigrate, even with a dutch buttsniffer signing for him,
>
> OK, I answered your question, and now I'm going to ask you one. I understand why you call Sheldon, "Popeye," but what's with the "Dutch" and "butt sniffing"? I'm just curious. I swear that I'm not working on a dissertation for a doctorate in Anthropology. Heck, I dropped out of college in my junior year to start a punk rock band.
>
> --Bryan
>
I hope Hank doesn't mind but I'm going to jump in and answer your questions..

Bruce, our resident man of ingredients lists, is Dutch. Somehow he slipped
into Australia and has taken root there. He thinks the USA is the land of
evil, gun-toting, processed food eating zombies who won't adopt a socialist government. ****es him off to no end.

He's always defending our two looney tune residents, Julie, aka Ju-Ju,
our resident attention whore, as well as John Kuthe, our resident village
idiot. Hank accused him long ago of just hanging around those two just
to get as close as possible to get a whiff of their asses. He's rather
fond of the senile, Depends wearing OhFeelMe, aka Ophelia.

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 5:17:59 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:55:36 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
> >On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
> >
> >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:22:59 +0100, Pamela >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 01:00 24 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:52:01 +0100, Pamela >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>On 19:00 23 Aug 2020, John Kuthe said:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nope, I have Bipolar Disorder and my psychiatrist is cannabis too,
> >>>>>> because she KNOWS cannabis can ease my Bipolar Symptoms better than
> >>>>>> the Seroquel she prescribes for me!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Don't bank on it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Cannabis is likely to go the way trendy meds, like Prozac, went.
> >>>>
> >>>> LOL. Cannabis (as we all know) has been used medicinally for thousands
> >>>> of years. I suspect it's a 'fad' that won't go away.
> >>>
> >>>The use or misue of a herb is not an indicator of safety. The Chinese
> >>>used Aristolochia Fangchi medicinally since time immemorial and it's now
> >>>considered highly dangerous.
> >>>
> >>>>>After the launch hype Prozac turned out to be only partially effective
> >>>>>for most patients and have plenty more side effects than was realised
> >>>>>at first.
> >>>>
> >>>> No drug is a one size fits all deal.
> >>>
> >>>Prozac failed to live up to its hype by a huge amount.
> >>
> >> I have no idea what your point is. Unless you're saying taking anything
> >> that can be classed as a drug or medication is bad?
> >
> >I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely examined
> >product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success amongst users
> >turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it.
>
> That's not uncommon, so I agree with that.
>
> > Users like John
> >Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems unlikely.
>
> Cannabis? Perhaps. John has psychological issues, so hard for either
> of us to claim efficacy one way or the other.
>
> >I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation honeymoon
> >phase but it won't last for ever.
>
> Yes, but you seem to have a particular problem specifically with
> cannabis? I don't understand why.
>
> > "The complete effect of legalizing and commercializing marijuana on
> > consumers' mental health and their educational outcomes is expected to
> > take a longer duration prior to its achievement; unfortunately, fewer
> > merits are anticipated.
> >
> > Most of the reports evaluated in this article proved to be marred with
> > inconsistencies. Many of the stated claims did not pass a methodical
> > evaluation. Going forward, additional data from available sources will
> > lead to stronger conclusions."
> >
> >From "Public Health Concerns of Marijuana Legalization"
> >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6837267/
>
> I didn't look at the link. But I'll just say again that all
> drugs/pharmaceuticals can be good or bad for any particular person,
> for all sorts of reasons but particularly genetics. Just in the same
> way that certain diets work for some people but not others.

Pot helped me when I was a teenager. Sure, it set me on the path of underachieving scholastically and career wise, but it kept me out of trouble, kept me docile. Once I got together with my first girlfriend, I no longer needed it. I was sex obsessed, but also romance obsessed, and pot took the edge off--pot, and reading through the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy every week for more than a year. From the age of 13, I wanted desperately to be in a marriage-like relationship, and there weren't any possibilities.

Yeah, I was messed up kid, and I self medicated with pot. For the past four decades, I've self medicated with alcohol, and stayed functional, productively employed, and out of trouble. I do know that the alcohol is detrimental to my physical health, but it never makes me crazy or mean. The non-medicated me is mean. I could go on with the self disclosing, but instead I'll include yet another relevant excerpt from *Winter's Present*.

WARNING. WINTER LIES AHEAD.

"Thank you Doctor Winter. So, it wasn't so much that I was sexually precocious. It was intensely sensual, all five senses, and it terrified me. Reflecting on it, it seems perfectly wholesome, but I knew it wasn't normal."
"What were you afraid of?"
"Rejection. Humiliation. And it wasn't most girls, but some, and my craving was so intense. I told myself, willed myself into latency. There was intent. I told myself that if I got spoiled on having access to a girl's body, then that was taken away, life would be Hell."
"Wow, you thought it out that much?"
"I did..."

--Bryan
https://www.lulu.com/en/us/shop/brya...-176j5weg.html

On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:39:51 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 6:21:05 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> >
>> > Kuth couldn't emigrate, even with a dutch buttsniffer signing for him,
>>
>> OK, I answered your question, and now I'm going to ask you one. I understand why you call Sheldon, "Popeye," but what's with the "Dutch" and "butt sniffing"? I'm just curious. I swear that I'm not working on a dissertation for a doctorate in Anthropology. Heck, I dropped out of college in my junior year to start a punk rock band.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>I hope Hank doesn't mind but I'm going to jump in and answer your questions.
>
>Bruce, our resident man of ingredients lists, is Dutch. Somehow he slipped
>into Australia and has taken root there. He thinks the USA is the land of
>evil, gun-toting, processed food eating zombies

Wrong, I think all western societies eat a lot of processed food. If I
focus more on the US, it's because you're all Americans. If I'd focus
on the Netherlands, half of you wouldn't even know what that is. "Uhm,
Netherlands... Is that a toothpaste brand?"

>who won't adopt a socialist government.

Wrong, I wouldn't want a socialist government either. Each time it has
been tried, anywhere in the world, it's ended up in a dictatorship.

>****es him off to no end.

Wrong.

>He's always defending our two looney tune residents, Julie, aka Ju-Ju,
>our resident attention whore, as well as John Kuthe, our resident village
>idiot.

I don't so much defend them as attack the RFC vultures who love seeing
someone they think they are superior to and then start hacking in to
them, over and over and over again. Always repeating the same thing,
boring the hell out of everybody else. It's all been said a thousand
times.

>Hank accused him long ago of just hanging around those two just
>to get as close as possible to get a whiff of their asses.

Hank suffers from arrested development. He's stuck in the **** and
poop stage. The fact that you team up with him says a lot about you.

>He's rather fond of the senile, Depends wearing OhFeelMe, aka Ophelia.

Ophelia is a much more decent person with a much better sense of
humour than the nasty, bitter hag that you are.

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 7:33:08 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> Ophelia is a bitter hag.
>
Hit a nerve, did I, Bruce?

On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:23:31 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 7:33:08 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Ophelia is a bitter hag.
>>
>Hit a nerve, did I, Bruce?

Quoting me incorrectly now? You're a nasty piece of work, Joan.

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 10:35:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> >> Ophelia is a bitter hag.
> >>
> Quoting me correctly now? Nice work, Joan.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:44:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 10:35:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> >> Ophelia is a bitter hag.
>> >>
>> Quoting me correctly now? Nice work, Joan.

LOL.

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:13:22 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 20:44:13 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 10:35:09 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> >> Ophelia is a bitter hag.
>>> >>
>>> Quoting me correctly now? Nice work, Joan.
>
>LOL.

Don't encourage the child, unless you are one too.

On 23:17 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 22:55:36 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>
>>On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:22:59 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 01:00 24 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:52:01 +0100, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After the launch hype Prozac turned out to be only partially
>>>>>>effective for most patients and have plenty more side effects than
>>>>>>was realised at first.
>>>>>
>>>>> No drug is a one size fits all deal.
>>>>
>>>>Prozac failed to live up to its hype by a huge amount.
>>>
>>> I have no idea what your point is. Unless you're saying taking
>>> anything that can be classed as a drug or medication is bad?
>>
>>I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely
>>examined product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success
>>amongst users turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it.
>
> That's not uncommon, so I agree with that.
>
>> Users like John
>>Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems unlikely.
>
> Cannabis? Perhaps. John has psychological issues, so hard for either of
> us to claim efficacy one way or the other.
>
>>I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation
>>honeymoon phase but it won't last for ever.
>
> Yes, but you seem to have a particular problem specifically with
> cannabis? I don't understand why.

My concern extends to all illegal drugs. Their users are often too
impaired to assess the adverse effects properly. Some indulge in such an
unrestrained way as to become a social problem.

I suspect most drug users have psycholigical problems at the outset
(impulsivity, criminal tendancy, irresponsibility, etc) and will be worse
for drugs than normal people.

Just imagine the ensuing mass of health problems and socially deviant
behaviour if all illegal drugs were de-criminalised and made much cheaper.

On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 7:56:37 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
....
> Mostly it's a recreational drug. As such, there should be no expectation of health, dietary, or mental health, benefits. Hopefully, the weed won't kill people. OTOH, most people are willing to partake in recreational activities even if there is some risk involved.

Correct: Cannabis is relatively non-toxic and has been used by humans for thousands of years, industrally, recreationally, spiritually etc. And it was not known until the 1990's that humans have an endocannabinoid biological system involved heavily in homoeostasis! Due mostly to the egregiously ILLEGALITY of hemp, etc. in the 1930's in the U.S. due to one Harry J. Anslinger (nephew of a U.S Treasury person) and malevolent company of William T. Hearst and DuPont Chemical!

John Kuthe...

On 01:56 28 Aug 2020, dsi1 said:

> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 11:55:44 AM UTC-10, Pamela wrote:
>> On 21:51 27 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>>
>> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:22:59 +0100, Pamela >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On 01:00 24 Aug 2020, Jeßus said:
>> >>
>> >>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 23:52:01 +0100, Pamela
>> >>> >
>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>On 19:00 23 Aug 2020, John Kuthe said:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Nope, I have Bipolar Disorder and my psychiatrist is cannabis
>> >>>>> too,
>
>> >>>>> because she KNOWS cannabis can ease my Bipolar Symptoms better
>> >>>>> than
>
>> >>>>> the Seroquel she prescribes for me!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Don't bank on it.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Cannabis is likely to go the way trendy meds, like Prozac, went.
>> >>>
>> >>> LOL. Cannabis (as we all know) has been used medicinally for
>> >>> thousand
> s
>> >>> of years. I suspect it's a 'fad' that won't go away.
>> >>
>> >>The use or misue of a herb is not an indicator of safety. The
>> >>Chinese
>
>> >>used Aristolochia Fangchi medicinally since time immemorial and it's
>> >>no
> w
>> >>considered highly dangerous.
>> >>
>> >>>>After the launch hype Prozac turned out to be only partially
>> >>>>effectiv
> e
>> >>>>for most patients and have plenty more side effects than was
>> >>>>realised
>
>> >>>>at first.
>> >>>
>> >>> No drug is a one size fits all deal.
>> >>
>> >>Prozac failed to live up to its hype by a huge amount.
>> >
>> > I have no idea what your point is. Unless you're saying taking
>> > anything
>
>> > that can be classed as a drug or medication is bad?
>>
>> I was saying even the most scientifically researched and minutely
>> examine
> d
>> product, such as Prozac, which was a great inital success amongst users
>
>> turned out unable to meet many of the claims made for it. Users like
>> John Kuthe genuinely believe it replaces antipsychotics which seems
>> unlikely.
>
>>
>> I expect the same for marijuana. We're in the post-legalisation
>> honeymoon phase but it won't last for ever.
>>
>> "The complete effect of legalizing and commercializing marijuana on
>> consumers' mental health and their educational outcomes is expected
>> to
>
>> take a longer duration prior to its achievement; unfortunately,
>> fewer
>
>> merits are anticipated.
>>
>> Most of the reports evaluated in this article proved to be marred
>> with inconsistencies. Many of the stated claims did not pass a
>> methodical evaluation. Going forward, additional data from available
>> sources will lead to stronger conclusions."
>>
>> From "Public Health Concerns of Marijuana Legalization"
>> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6837267/
>
> Mostly it's a recreational drug. As such, there should be no expectation
> of health, dietary, or mental health, benefits. Hopefully, the weed
> won't kill people.

Someone should tell offenders high on drugs when they engage in criminal
behaviour that recreational drugs can alter behaviour for the worse.

> OTOH, most people are willing to partake in
> recreational activities even if there is some risk involved.
>
> My mother-in-law took THC pills to increase her appetite. They worked
> great but it made her loopy. In the end, it was deemed preferable to
> have a mom slowly wasting away from lack of appetite than to have a
> psychotic mom.

We can't legislate only for those who will use drugs responsibly and
ignore the majority of irresponsible use. Purdue's promoted Oxycontin as
safe when used responsibly and look where that ended up.

Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> reading through the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy every
> week for more than a year.

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"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:39:51 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 6:21:05 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> >
>> > Kuth couldn't emigrate, even with a dutch buttsniffer signing for him,
>>
>> OK, I answered your question, and now I'm going to ask you one. I
>> understand why you call Sheldon, "Popeye," but what's with the "Dutch"
>> and "butt sniffing"? I'm just curious. I swear that I'm not working on
>> a dissertation for a doctorate in Anthropology. Heck, I dropped out of
>> college in my junior year to start a punk rock band.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
>I hope Hank doesn't mind but I'm going to jump in and answer your
>questions.
>
>Bruce, our resident man of ingredients lists, is Dutch. Somehow he slipped
>into Australia and has taken root there. He thinks the USA is the land of
>evil, gun-toting, processed food eating zombies

Wrong, I think all western societies eat a lot of processed food. If I
focus more on the US, it's because you're all Americans. If I'd focus
on the Netherlands, half of you wouldn't even know what that is. "Uhm,
Netherlands... Is that a toothpaste brand?"

>who won't adopt a socialist government.

Wrong, I wouldn't want a socialist government either. Each time it has
been tried, anywhere in the world, it's ended up in a dictatorship.

>****es him off to no end.

Wrong.

>He's always defending our two looney tune residents, Julie, aka Ju-Ju,
>our resident attention whore, as well as John Kuthe, our resident village
>idiot.

I don't so much defend them as attack the RFC vultures who love seeing
someone they think they are superior to and then start hacking in to
them, over and over and over again. Always repeating the same thing,
boring the hell out of everybody else. It's all been said a thousand
times.

>Hank accused him long ago of just hanging around those two just
>to get as close as possible to get a whiff of their asses.

Hank suffers from arrested development. He's stuck in the **** and
poop stage. The fact that you team up with him says a lot about you.

>He's rather fond of the senile, Depends wearing OhFeelMe, aka Ophelia.

Ophelia is a much more decent person with a much better sense of
humour than the nasty, bitter hag that you are.

====

Thank you! Yes, she is a very nasty bitter old hag. In fact there are
several here.

I have no interest in them. They spout contemptible, worthless,
excrement none stop and they strut around thinking they are well loved LOL

There are a few decent, kind people here for whom I am very grateful.
Without them, this place would be shit!!

On 00:39 28 Aug 2020, said:
> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 6:21:05 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 5:21:43 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Kuth couldn't emigrate, even with a dutch buttsniffer signing for
>> > him,
>>
>> OK, I answered your question, and now I'm going to ask you one. I
>> unders tand why you call Sheldon, "Popeye," but what's with the "Dutch"
>> and "butt sniffing"? I'm just curious. I swear that I'm not working
>> on a dissertation for a doctorate in Anthropology. Heck, I dropped out
>> of college in my junior year to start a punk rock band.
>>
>> --Bryan
>>
> I hope Hank doesn't mind but I'm going to jump in and answer your
> questions.
>
> Bruce, our resident man of ingredients lists, is Dutch. Somehow he
> slipped into Australia and has taken root there. He thinks the USA is
> the land of evil, gun-toting, processed food eating zombies who won't
> adopt a socialist government. ****es him off to no end.
>
> He's always defending our two looney tune residents, Julie, aka Ju-Ju,
> our resident attention whore, as well as John Kuthe, our resident
> village idiot. Hank accused him long ago of just hanging around those
> two just to get as close as possible to get a whiff of their asses. He's
> rather fond of the senile, Depends wearing OhFeelMe, aka Ophelia.

Bruce is a bit of soft sometimes but he's not entirely wrong to identify the
worst of American eating habits. There's a lot of excellent food too in
America but sadly it's the junk food which gets attention.

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:02:44 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 00:39 28 Aug 2020, said:
>>>
>> I hope Hank doesn't mind but I'm going to jump in and answer your
>> questions.
>>
>> Bruce, our resident man of ingredients lists, is Dutch. Somehow he
>> slipped into Australia and has taken root there. He thinks the USA is
>> the land of evil, gun-toting, processed food eating zombies who won't
>> adopt a socialist government. ****es him off to no end.
>>
>> He's always defending our two looney tune residents, Julie, aka Ju-Ju,
>> our resident attention whore, as well as John Kuthe, our resident
>> village idiot. Hank accused him long ago of just hanging around those
>> two just to get as close as possible to get a whiff of their asses. He's
>> rather fond of the senile, Depends wearing OhFeelMe, aka Ophelia.
>
>Bruce is a bit of soft sometimes

That must be your way of saying I'm a nice person. That's ok. We all
have our quirks.

On 19:10 28 Aug 2020, Bruce said:

> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:02:44 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
>>On 00:39 28 Aug 2020, said:
>>>>
>>> I hope Hank doesn't mind but I'm going to jump in and answer your
>>> questions.
>>>
>>> Bruce, our resident man of ingredients lists, is Dutch. Somehow he
>>> slipped into Australia and has taken root there. He thinks the USA is
>>> the land of evil, gun-toting, processed food eating zombies who won't
>>> adopt a socialist government. ****es him off to no end.
>>>
>>> He's always defending our two looney tune residents, Julie, aka Ju-Ju,
>>> our resident attention whore, as well as John Kuthe, our resident
>>> village idiot. Hank accused him long ago of just hanging around those
>>> two just to get as close as possible to get a whiff of their asses. He's
>>> rather fond of the senile, Depends wearing OhFeelMe, aka Ophelia.
>>
>>Bruce is a bit of soft sometimes
>
> That must be your way of saying I'm a nice person. That's ok. We all
> have our quirks.

I mean soft in a gentle sort of way, not soft in the head.

On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 1:02:56 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
>
> Bruce is a bit of soft sometimes but he's not entirely wrong to identify the
> worst of American eating habits. There's a lot of excellent food too in
> America but sadly it's the junk food which gets attention.
>
Yes, there are terrible eating habits here just as there are terrible eating
habits in Australia, Scotland, France, Turkey, etc. But that doesn't mean
every single person in those countries all have terrible eating habits. He's
fixated on some and get past those few.

Bad eating habits are a side effect of being a rich and developed country.

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:48:32 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 19:10 28 Aug 2020, Bruce said:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 19:02:44 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 00:39 28 Aug 2020, said:
>>>>>
>>>> I hope Hank doesn't mind but I'm going to jump in and answer your
>>>> questions.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce, our resident man of ingredients lists, is Dutch. Somehow he
>>>> slipped into Australia and has taken root there. He thinks the USA is
>>>> the land of evil, gun-toting, processed food eating zombies who won't
>>>> adopt a socialist government. ****es him off to no end.
>>>>
>>>> He's always defending our two looney tune residents, Julie, aka Ju-Ju,
>>>> our resident attention whore, as well as John Kuthe, our resident
>>>> village idiot. Hank accused him long ago of just hanging around those
>>>> two just to get as close as possible to get a whiff of their asses. He's
>>>> rather fond of the senile, Depends wearing OhFeelMe, aka Ophelia.
>>>
>>>Bruce is a bit of soft sometimes
>>
>> That must be your way of saying I'm a nice person. That's ok. We all
>> have our quirks.
>
>I mean soft in a gentle sort of way, not soft in the head.

Well, thank you.

On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 1:02:56 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
>>
>> Bruce is a bit of soft sometimes but he's not entirely wrong to identify the
>> worst of American eating habits. There's a lot of excellent food too in
>> America but sadly it's the junk food which gets attention.
>>
>Yes, there are terrible eating habits here just as there are terrible eating
>habits in Australia, Scotland, France, Turkey, etc. But that doesn't mean
>every single person in those countries all have terrible eating habits. He's
>fixated on some and get past those few.
>
>Bad eating habits are a side effect of being a rich and developed country.

Developed?