On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 2:40:49 AM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 23:08:29 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > He keeps saying that he is a nurse, but it seems that he was sanctioned
> > for leaving his ward unattended, and he finally got a nursing job again
> > recently and lasted only a few days.
> He didn't get *a* new job. He got THREE new jobs and lost them all.
> I think he spent about 8 days between all three jobs and 3 of those
> days were training and orientation.
>
> -sw

There must be a great shortage of nurses in Da Loo.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:53:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 23:08:29 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> > He keeps saying that he is a nurse, but it seems that he was sanctioned
>> > for leaving his ward unattended, and he finally got a nursing job again
>> > recently and lasted only a few days.
>>
>> He didn't get *a* new job. He got THREE new jobs and lost them all.
>> I think he spent about 8 days between all three jobs and 3 of those
>> days were training and orientation.
>>
>> -sw
>
>
>And just *why* do some here celebrate that?

Alex, Jill, Joan, Cindy, Dave, Sqwertz. The RFC vultures. Apologies if
I forgot someone.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 11:56:09 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > > For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > And you accuse John of being narcissist?!?!
> >
> > "Narcissistic personality disorder ? one of several types of
> > personality disorders ? is a mental condition in which people have
> > an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive
> > attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of
> > empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies
> > a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."
> >
> > -sw
>
> WHO accuses John of being a narcissist? I have Bipolar Disorder, not
Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They ARE different, you know!

Indeed they are; but they are not mutually exclusive. You display
every above symptom of NPD in spades.

You have also displayed what a very inadequate nurse you are; as
repeated employers have confirmed by sacking you.



Janet UK

In article >, says...
>
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 23:08:29 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > He keeps saying that he is a nurse, but it seems that he was sanctioned
> > > for leaving his ward unattended, and he finally got a nursing job again
> > > recently and lasted only a few days.
> >
> > He didn't get *a* new job. He got THREE new jobs and lost them all.
> > I think he spent about 8 days between all three jobs and 3 of those
> > days were training and orientation.
> >
> > -sw
>
>
> And just *why* do some here celebrate that?

Pointing out the dismal truth is not celebration, just reality.

" Truth and Reality" are not your strong points. You have that in
common with John and Julie.

Janet UK

On 8/30/2020 5:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
>>> despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I
>>> had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese.
>>>
>> Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
>>
>> Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain loudly to
>> anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor back in the room
>> and have him/her tell them to change the order?
>>
>> Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps in the
>> presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call button and
>> asking why haven't I been fed?
>
> <sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
> I would also press the call button and demand food.
>
> However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
> the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> cshenk wrote:
> I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
> C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
> missed
> 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
> the
> one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
> was
> released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
> (which I
> didn't get).
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
<sigh> Gary... Julie wrote (right above what I wrote):

"Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I
had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese."
-------------------------------------------------------------

If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
didn't she say "Hey! This is *not* what the doctor ordered"? As for
Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she speak
up? Julie gets some latitude for being wacky. But Carol? I don't
expect military personnel to be wimpy.

I had to have emergency surgery back in 1993. I hadn't eaten in two
days so you can bet I was hungry. After checking on me around 7:00 the
next morning the doctor said she'd have them bring me some breakfast. I
waited and waited but no one brought me any food. As Noon approached
with still nothing to eat you can bet my finger was on that call button.
(Not a bad meal when it finally arrived, either. Scrambled eggs,
bacon, toast with butter, orange juice and coffee. Not "heart smart"
but hey, I wasn't there for heart problems.) I polished it off and when
the nurse came back to take the tray she said, "You really *were*
hungry!* Duh.

Jill

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 10:14:32 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 8/30/2020 5:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> John Kuthe...
> >>>
> >>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
> >>> despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I
> >>> had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese.
> >>>
> >> Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
> >>
> >> Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain loudly to
> >> anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor back in the room
> >> and have him/her tell them to change the order?
> >>
> >> Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps in the
> >> presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call button and
> >> asking why haven't I been fed?
> >
> > <sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
> > I would also press the call button and demand food.
> >
> > However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
> > the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > cshenk wrote:
> > I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
> > C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
> > missed
> > 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
> > the
> > one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
> > was
> > released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
> > (which I
> > didn't get).
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> <sigh> Gary... Julie wrote (right above what I wrote):
> "Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
> despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I
> had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese."
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
> didn't she say "Hey! This is *not* what the doctor ordered"? As for
> Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she speak
> up? Julie gets some latitude for being wacky. But Carol? I don't
> expect military personnel to be wimpy.
>
> I had to have emergency surgery back in 1993. I hadn't eaten in two
> days so you can bet I was hungry. After checking on me around 7:00 the
> next morning the doctor said she'd have them bring me some breakfast. I
> waited and waited but no one brought me any food. As Noon approached
> with still nothing to eat you can bet my finger was on that call button.
> (Not a bad meal when it finally arrived, either. Scrambled eggs,
> bacon, toast with butter, orange juice and coffee.

My favorite hospital meal included roast beef. Ever since then, I've always wondered how they made it taste so good.

On 2020-08-29 8:50 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> Jeßus wrote:
>

>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
>>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
>>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
>>> cheese.
>>
>> When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
>> fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
>
> It's not entirely discredited. Moderation rules on it now.
>

This is a lot like the mask debate. They keep referring to "the
science" but the science keeps chanaging, and that makes it non science.

On 2020-08-29 9:01 p.m., John Kuthe wrote:
-sw
>
> WHO accuses John of being a narcissist? I have Bipolar Disorder, not Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They ARE different, you know! I do! I am a nurse, I have to know.
>

Correction. You were a nurse, but apparently you were a bad one, which
is why you didn't work as one for a long time and why you didn't last
very long at your recent jobs.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I'm not going to watch some silly youtube video about Gandhi. How about
> you go listen to your old LPs instead and give us a break? You are not
> an expert about anything.
>
> I'm watching butterflies flitting around outside which are infinitly
> more interesting.

LOL Evidently, you are easily amused.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:01:38 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-29 8:50 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > Jeßus wrote:
> >
>
> >>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
> >>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
> >>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
> >>> cheese.
> >>
> >> When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
> >> fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
> >
> > It's not entirely discredited. Moderation rules on it now.
> >
> This is a lot like the mask debate. They keep referring to "the
> science" but the science keeps chanaging, and that makes it non science.

You misunderstand the nature of science.

Data are collected, hypotheses are formulated. Then some jackwagon
journalist latches on to the hypothesis and presents it as Gospel Truth.

Additional data are received, hypotheses are re-formulated. Then
the public can't figure out why science can't get its story straight.

If science never revised its conclusions, we'd still be subscribing
to the Phlogiston Theory and the four humours.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:47:52 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > I'm not going to watch some silly youtube video about Gandhi. How about
> > you go listen to your old LPs instead and give us a break? You are not
> > an expert about anything.
> >
> > I'm watching butterflies flitting around outside which are infinitly
> > more interesting.
> LOL Evidently, you are easily amused.

Yes. Butterflies are infinitely more interesting than John Kuthe's
latest bullshit.

Cindy Hamilton

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:53:12 -0400, Gary wrote:

> Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 23:08:29 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> He keeps saying that he is a nurse, but it seems that he was sanctioned
>>> for leaving his ward unattended, and he finally got a nursing job again
>>> recently and lasted only a few days.
>>
>> He didn't get *a* new job. He got THREE new jobs and lost them all.
>> I think he spent about 8 days between all three jobs and 3 of those
>> days were training and orientation.
>
> And just *why* do some here celebrate that?

It's not to 'celebrate'. It's to point out the irony behind somebody
who's constantly putting himself at a higher intellectual and social
level than everyone else here, or just outright calling us all
assholes.

-sw

Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:47:52 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm not going to watch some silly youtube video about Gandhi. How about
> > > you go listen to your old LPs instead and give us a break? You are not
> > > an expert about anything.
> > >
> > > I'm watching butterflies flitting around outside which are infinitly
> > > more interesting.
> > LOL Evidently, you are easily amused.
>
> Yes. Butterflies are infinitely more interesting than John Kuthe's
> latest bullshit.
>


BINGO...!!!

Jill posts often about nature, pets, her Dad's military career, etc., so far more interesting, we all enjoy them. JK ONLY posts about himself...whenever I see his posts I think, "GROAN -- again...!!!???", he is an insane hampster forever spinning on a wheel in his cage...and at TOP speed, too...no self - awareness at all.

--
Best
Greg

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 12:53:17 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 23:08:29 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > He keeps saying that he is a nurse, but it seems that he was sanctioned
> > > for leaving his ward unattended, and he finally got a nursing job again
> > > recently and lasted only a few days.
> >
> > He didn't get *a* new job. He got THREE new jobs and lost them all.
> > I think he spent about 8 days between all three jobs and 3 of those
> > days were training and orientation.
> >
> > -sw
>
>
> And just *why* do some here celebrate that?

It is because they have shitty lives for one reason or another, they just can't get no satisfaction, and it has made them angry and fearful. That's not a guess.

On 8/30/2020 11:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:47:52 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not going to watch some silly youtube video about Gandhi. How about
>>> you go listen to your old LPs instead and give us a break? You are not
>>> an expert about anything.
>>>
>>> I'm watching butterflies flitting around outside which are infinitly
>>> more interesting.
>> LOL Evidently, you are easily amused.
>
> Yes. Butterflies are infinitely more interesting than John Kuthe's
> latest bullshit.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
I've seen some lovely ones flitting around today, too. Here's a picture
of the flowering plant they're attracted to:

https://i.postimg.cc/HWwHY6Q2/pinkcreeping.jpg

I didn't plant these, they just showed up one year flanking the patio.
They bloom nearly year round. They do tend to spread a bit but they're
pretty so I don't care. The butterflies love them.

Jill

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:48:31 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:01:38 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2020-08-29 8:50 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> > > Jeßus wrote:
> > >
> >
> > >>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
> > >>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
> > >>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
> > >>> cheese.
> > >>
> > >> When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
> > >> fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
> > >
> > > It's not entirely discredited. Moderation rules on it now.
> > >
> > This is a lot like the mask debate. They keep referring to "the
> > science" but the science keeps chanaging, and that makes it non science..
>
> You misunderstand the nature of science.
>
> Data are collected, hypotheses are formulated. Then some jackwagon
> journalist latches on to the hypothesis and presents it as Gospel Truth.
>
> Additional data are received, hypotheses are re-formulated. Then
> the public can't figure out why science can't get its story straight.
>
> If science never revised its conclusions, we'd still be subscribing
> to the Phlogiston Theory and the four humours.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

The problem with believing in data is that it gives no absolute truths but instead, merely percentages of something being true. For absolute truths, you have to turn to God or someone your trust absolutely.

On 30/08/2020 17:38, jmcquown wrote:

> https://i.postimg.cc/HWwHY6Q2/pinkcreeping.jpg
>
> I didn't plant these, they just showed up one year flanking the patio.
> They bloom nearly year round.Â* They do tend to spread a bit but they're
> pretty so I don't care.Â* The butterflies love them.
>
Looks like myrtle.

Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 06:53:12 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 23:08:29 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> He keeps saying that he is a nurse, but it seems that he was sanctioned
>>>> for leaving his ward unattended, and he finally got a nursing job again
>>>> recently and lasted only a few days.
>>>
>>> He didn't get *a* new job. He got THREE new jobs and lost them all.
>>> I think he spent about 8 days between all three jobs and 3 of those
>>> days were training and orientation.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>
>>
>> And just *why* do some here celebrate that?
>
> Alex, Jill, Joan, Cindy, Dave, Sqwertz. The RFC vultures. Apologies if
> I forgot someone.
>

<*SNIFF*>

On 2020-08-30 10:39 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:48:31 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:01:38 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2020-08-29 8:50 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>>>> Jeßus wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
>>>>>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
>>>>>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
>>>>>> cheese.
>>>>>
>>>>> When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
>>>>> fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
>>>>
>>>> It's not entirely discredited. Moderation rules on it now.
>>>>
>>> This is a lot like the mask debate. They keep referring to "the
>>> science" but the science keeps chanaging, and that makes it non science.
>>
>> You misunderstand the nature of science.
>>
>> Data are collected, hypotheses are formulated. Then some jackwagon
>> journalist latches on to the hypothesis and presents it as Gospel Truth.
>>
>> Additional data are received, hypotheses are re-formulated. Then
>> the public can't figure out why science can't get its story straight.
>>
>> If science never revised its conclusions, we'd still be subscribing
>> to the Phlogiston Theory and the four humours.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> The problem with believing in data is that it gives no absolute truths

OF COURSE IT DOES!!!!!

but instead, merely percentages of something being true. For absolute
truths, you have to turn to God or someone your trust absolutely.
>
Oh! FFS!

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 7:51:38 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> On 2020-08-30 10:39 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:48:31 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 11:01:38 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>> On 2020-08-29 8:50 p.m., cshenk wrote:
> >>>> Jeßus wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
> >>>>>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
> >>>>>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
> >>>>>> cheese.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
> >>>>> fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not entirely discredited. Moderation rules on it now.
> >>>>
> >>> This is a lot like the mask debate. They keep referring to "the
> >>> science" but the science keeps chanaging, and that makes it non science.
> >>
> >> You misunderstand the nature of science.
> >>
> >> Data are collected, hypotheses are formulated. Then some jackwagon
> >> journalist latches on to the hypothesis and presents it as Gospel Truth.
> >>
> >> Additional data are received, hypotheses are re-formulated. Then
> >> the public can't figure out why science can't get its story straight.
> >>
> >> If science never revised its conclusions, we'd still be subscribing
> >> to the Phlogiston Theory and the four humours.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > The problem with believing in data is that it gives no absolute truths
>
> OF COURSE IT DOES!!!!!
>
> but instead, merely percentages of something being true. For absolute
> truths, you have to turn to God or someone your trust absolutely.
> >
> Oh! FFS!

I love it when yoose gets infuriated.

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 11:02:31 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-08-29 8:50 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Jeßus wrote:
>>
>
>>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
>>>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
>>>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
>>>> cheese.
>>>
>>> When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
>>> fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
>>
>> It's not entirely discredited. Moderation rules on it now.
>>
>
>This is a lot like the mask debate. They keep referring to "the
>science" but the science keeps chanaging, and that makes it non science.

Well, I'm not so sure that's a good analogy. Yes, the mask nonsense
changes by the hour (doesn't help when they outright lie and later
admit they lied): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MmX2U2V3c

Whereas research into 'cholesterol' has been ongoing for many decades,
which typically trickles down from research to the authorities and
finally the specialists and local doctor at a glacial speed (as in
decades).

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 09:39:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:


>The problem with believing in data is that it gives no absolute truths but instead, merely percentages of something being true.

Damn. I always knew E = mc2 was bullshit. Thanks for exposing this!

>For absolute truths, you have to turn to God or someone your trust absolutely.

LOL. Think about what you just said. Oh wait, this is you we're
talking about...

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 05:50:31 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:05:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>
> >>Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
> >>despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I had
> >>low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese.
> >
> >When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
> >fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
> It has only been discredited in the brain of kooks.

Saturated fat and an active lifestyle increases HDL levels. High HDL is good.


--Bryan

On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:49:12 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 05:50:31 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:05:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> John Kuthe...
>> >>
>> >>Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
>> >>despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I had
>> >>low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese.
>> >
>> >When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
>> >fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
>> It has only been discredited in the brain of kooks.
>
>Saturated fat and an active lifestyle increases HDL levels. High HDL is good.

The public narrative on this topic is utterly depressing. Most people
want the problem solved by taking a pill, rather than taking personal
responsibility and taking action to resolve the problem themselves
(which 95% of them could actually do if they wanted).

Plenty of valid information available out there for people who make
the effort to research the topic. Instead, they placate themselves
with information that tends to absolve themselves of responsibility.

You mentioned an active lifestyle, which indeed DOES make a massive
difference. But few want to hear about that, it would require them to
actually face reality instead of relying on corporations and others
with a vested interest in perpetuating the problem...

Gary wrote:

> jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> > > "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> > > >
> > >> John Kuthe...
> > >
> > > Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
> > > diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
> > > problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
> > > cheese.
> > >
> > Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
> >
> > Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain
> > loudly to anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor
> > back in the room and have him/her tell them to change the order?
> >
> > Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps
> > in the presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call
> > button and asking why haven't I been fed?
>
> <sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
> I would also press the call button and demand food.
>
> However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
> the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> cshenk wrote:
> I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
> C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
> missed
> 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
> the
> one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
> was
> released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
> (which I
> didn't get).
> --------------------------------------------------------

I did press the call button. I didn't get fed even after that.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 8/30/2020 5:27 AM, Gary wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> >>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > John Kuthe...
> > > >
> > > > Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart
> > > > Smart" diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have
> > > > heart problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to
> > > > have any cheese.
> > > >
> > > Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
> > >
> > > Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain
> > > loudly to anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor
> > > back in the room and have him/her tell them to change the order?
> > >
> > > Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps
> > > in the presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call
> > > button and asking why haven't I been fed?
> >
> ><sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
> > I would also press the call button and demand food.
> >
> > However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
> > the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > cshenk wrote:
> > I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
> > C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
> > missed
> > 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
> > the
> > one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
> > was
> > released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
> > (which I
> > didn't get).
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> <sigh> Gary... Julie wrote (right above what I wrote):
>
> "Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems
> and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese."
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
> didn't she say "Hey! This is not what the doctor ordered"? As for
> Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she
> speak up? Julie gets some latitude for being wacky. But Carol? I
> don't expect military personnel to be wimpy.
>
> I had to have emergency surgery back in 1993. I hadn't eaten in two
> days so you can bet I was hungry. After checking on me around 7:00
> the next morning the doctor said she'd have them bring me some
> breakfast. I waited and waited but no one brought me any food. As
> Noon approached with still nothing to eat you can bet my finger was
> on that call button. (Not a bad meal when it finally arrived,
> either. Scrambled eggs, bacon, toast with butter, orange juice and
> coffee. Not "heart smart" but hey, I wasn't there for heart
> problems.) I polished it off and when the nurse came back to take
> the tray she said, "You really were hungry!* Duh.
>
> Jill

I did speack up. Why do you assume I did not?

On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 8:27:27 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 11:56:09 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
> >>
> >>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>
> >> And you accuse John of being narcissist?!?!
> >>
> >> "Narcissistic personality disorder €€� one of several types of
> >> personality disorders €€� is a mental condition in which people have
> >> an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive
> >> attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of
> >> empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies
> >> a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > WHO accuses John of being a narcissist? I have Bipolar Disorder, not Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They ARE different, you know! I do! I am a nurse, I have to know.
> >
> > John Kuthe...
> >
> Yes, and not just any old nurse, but a 100% cannabis nurse, who
> burns zero gasoline!

An LSD, pervert nurse.

--Bryan

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 06:00:03 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 12:49:12 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 2:59:30 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sun, 30 Aug 2020 05:50:31 +1000, Jeßus > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sat, 29 Aug 2020 03:05:48 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> John Kuthe...
>>> >>
>>> >>Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
>>> >>despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I had
>>> >>low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese.
>>> >
>>> >When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
>>> >fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
>>> It has only been discredited in the brain of kooks.
>>
>>Saturated fat and an active lifestyle increases HDL levels. High HDL is good.
>
>The public narrative on this topic is utterly depressing. Most people
>want the problem solved by taking a pill, rather than taking personal
>responsibility and taking action to resolve the problem themselves
>(which 95% of them could actually do if they wanted).
>
>Plenty of valid information available out there for people who make
>the effort to research the topic. Instead, they placate themselves
>with information that tends to absolve themselves of responsibility.
>
>You mentioned an active lifestyle, which indeed DOES make a massive
>difference. But few want to hear about that, it would require them to
>actually face reality instead of relying on corporations and others
>with a vested interest in perpetuating the problem...

I think people know it, but most can't do it. My previous doctor said
80% of people can't change their lifestyle, so he doesn't expect them
to and medicates accordingly. Of course, one is free to prove one can
do it without pills.

On 8/30/2020 5:48 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 8:27:27 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 11:56:09 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> And you accuse John of being narcissist?!?!
>>>>
>>>> "Narcissistic personality disorder €€� one of several types of
>>>> personality disorders €€� is a mental condition in which people have
>>>> an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive
>>>> attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of
>>>> empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies
>>>> a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> WHO accuses John of being a narcissist? I have Bipolar Disorder, not Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They ARE different, you know! I do! I am a nurse, I have to know.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>> Yes, and not just any old nurse, but a 100% cannabis nurse, who
>> burns zero gasoline!
>
> An LSD, pervert nurse.
>
> --Bryan
>
Just have to spew some filth. You must orgasm from it. It just makes
you look more pathetic than your target.

On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:35:34 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/30/2020 5:48 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Saturday, August 29, 2020 at 8:27:27 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
> >> John Kuthe wrote:
> >>> On Friday, August 28, 2020 at 11:56:09 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 20:09:55 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Kuthe...
> >>>>
> >>>> And you accuse John of being narcissist?!?!
> >>>>
> >>>> "Narcissistic personality disorder €€� one of several types of
> >>>> personality disorders €€� is a mental condition in which people have
> >>>> an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive
> >>>> attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of
> >>>> empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies
> >>>> a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."
> >>>>
> >>>> -sw
> >>>
> >>> WHO accuses John of being a narcissist? I have Bipolar Disorder, not Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They ARE different, you know! I do! I am a nurse, I have to know.
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>>
> >> Yes, and not just any old nurse, but a 100% cannabis nurse, who
> >> burns zero gasoline!
> >
> > An LSD, pervert nurse.
> >
> > --Bryan
> >
> Just have to spew some filth. You must orgasm from it. It just makes
> you look more pathetic than your target.

But both are true. Would it be spewing filth to mention Benny?

--Bryan

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/30/2020 5:27 AM, Gary wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
>>>> despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I
>>>> had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese.
>>>>
>>> Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
>>>
>>> Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain loudly to
>>> anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor back in the room
>>> and have him/her tell them to change the order?
>>>
>>> Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps in the
>>> presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call button and
>>> asking why haven't I been fed?
>>
>> <sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
>> I would also press the call button and demand food.
>>
>> However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
>> the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> cshenk wrote:
>> I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
>> C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
>> missed
>> 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
>> the
>> one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
>> was
>> released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
>> (which I
>> didn't get).
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
> <sigh> Gary... Julie wrote (right above what I wrote):
>
> "Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart" diet
> despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems and I
> had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese."
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
> didn't she say "Hey! This is *not* what the doctor ordered"? As for
> Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she speak up?
> Julie gets some latitude for being wacky. But Carol? I don't expect
> military personnel to be wimpy.

I did! But it went nowhere. Every time I've been in the hospital, the Dr,
just tells me to have someone bring me in food.

I don't know if you've been in the hospital or not but here, the right hand
doesn't seem to know what the left hand is doing. Once, they refused to give
me a diet lemon lime soda because I had a citrus allery. AFAIK there is no
such thing as a citrus allergy but somehow they put it in my chart and
refused to take it off. I wound up getting the dietiician to come to my
room. That only muddied the waters further.

Another time, I used my Ipad to diagnose Red Man's syndrome. It happens when
Vancomycin via and IV gets into your system too quickly. They didn't want to
believe at first. Finally they came in. Said I was right. Swapped it out for
Penicillin. I then went into anwphalxic shock. Again, they wouldn't belive
me. I finally laid on the buzzer, screaming for a supervisor. When she
finally came in, she was like... OMG! That's when I found out I was allergic
to penicillin.

Another time, they had no menu. A burly woman kept demanding, "Just tell me
what you want!" Everything I asked for, they didn't have. I finally tried a
hamburger patty and green beans. That, they had. I couldn't chew the green
beans though. My mom tried one and said it must have been around since the
1940's.

When you're in the hospital, it's not like being in a hotel. You're pretty
much trapped in a bed, often stuck there with an IV asnd at other people's
mercy.
>
> I had to have emergency surgery back in 1993. I hadn't eaten in two days
> so you can bet I was hungry. After checking on me around 7:00 the next
> morning the doctor said she'd have them bring me some breakfast. I waited
> and waited but no one brought me any food. As Noon approached with still
> nothing to eat you can bet my finger was on that call button. (Not a bad
> meal when it finally arrived, either. Scrambled eggs, bacon, toast with
> butter, orange juice and coffee. Not "heart smart" but hey, I wasn't
> there for heart problems.) I polished it off and when the nurse came back
> to take the tray she said, "You really *were* hungry!* Duh.

Okay, I guess you were in the hospital. You wouldn't get that in a hospital
here, these days. They serve Egg Beaters, margarine, and chicken sausage. No
bacon.

People with diabetes and other medical conditions just get put on the heart
smart diet here. I don't know why.

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/2020 5:27 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > jmcquown wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > >
>> >>>"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>> > > > ...
>> > > > > For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > John Kuthe...
>> > > >
>> > > > Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart
>> > > > Smart" diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have
>> > > > heart problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to
>> > > > have any cheese.
>> > > >
>> > > Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
>> > >
>> > > Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain
>> > > loudly to anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor
>> > > back in the room and have him/her tell them to change the order?
>> > >
>> > > Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps
>> > > in the presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call
>> > > button and asking why haven't I been fed?
>> >
>> ><sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
>> > I would also press the call button and demand food.
>> >
>> > However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
>> > the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------------
>> > cshenk wrote:
>> > I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
>> > C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
>> > missed
>> > 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
>> > the
>> > one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
>> > was
>> > released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
>> > (which I
>> > didn't get).
>> > --------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> <sigh> Gary... Julie wrote (right above what I wrote):
>>
>> "Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart problems
>> and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any cheese."
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
>> didn't she say "Hey! This is not what the doctor ordered"? As for
>> Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she
>> speak up? Julie gets some latitude for being wacky. But Carol? I
>> don't expect military personnel to be wimpy.
>>
>> I had to have emergency surgery back in 1993. I hadn't eaten in two
>> days so you can bet I was hungry. After checking on me around 7:00
>> the next morning the doctor said she'd have them bring me some
>> breakfast. I waited and waited but no one brought me any food. As
>> Noon approached with still nothing to eat you can bet my finger was
>> on that call button. (Not a bad meal when it finally arrived,
>> either. Scrambled eggs, bacon, toast with butter, orange juice and
>> coffee. Not "heart smart" but hey, I wasn't there for heart
>> problems.) I polished it off and when the nurse came back to take
>> the tray she said, "You really were hungry!* Duh.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I did speack up. Why do you assume I did not?

I did too. Doesn't mean it gets you anywhere though.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-08-29 8:50 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> Jeßus wrote:
>>
>
>>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
>>>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
>>>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
>>>> cheese.
>>>
>>> When was that 'last time'? It's been years since the saturated
>>> fat/cholesterol = bad thing was discredited.
>>
>> It's not entirely discredited. Moderation rules on it now.
>>
>
> This is a lot like the mask debate. They keep referring to "the science"
> but the science keeps chanaging, and that makes it non science.

Correct.

On 8/31/2020 4:48 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:

>>>>>
>>>>> WHO accuses John of being a narcissist? I have Bipolar Disorder, not Narcissistic Personality Disorder. They ARE different, you know! I do! I am a nurse, I have to know.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, and not just any old nurse, but a 100% cannabis nurse, who
>>>> burns zero gasoline!
>>>
>>> An LSD, pervert nurse.
>>>
>>> --Bryan
>>>
>> Just have to spew some filth. You must orgasm from it. It just makes
>> you look more pathetic than your target.
>
> But both are true. Would it be spewing filth to mention Benny?
>
> --Bryan
>

Depends on how much you want to denigrate yourself.

On 2020-08-31 7:43 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
-------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
>> didn't she say "Hey! This is *not* what the doctor ordered"?Â* As for
>> Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she speak
>> up? Julie gets some latitude for being wacky.Â* But Carol?Â* I don't
>> expect military personnel to be wimpy.
>
> I did! But it went nowhere. Every time I've been in the hospital, the
> Dr, just tells me to have someone bring me in food.

You had a smart doctor.

>
> I don't know if you've been in the hospital or not but here, the right
> hand doesn't seem to know what the left hand is doing. Once, they
> refused to give me a diet lemon lime soda because I had a citrus allery.
> AFAIK there is no such thing as a citrus allergy but somehow they put it
> in my chart and refused to take it off. I wound up getting the
> dietiician to come to my room. That only muddied the waters further.

The waters do get muddied when the story keeps changing.

>

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:28:19 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2020-08-31 7:43 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
>>> didn't she say "Hey! This is *not* what the doctor ordered"?* As for
>>> Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she speak
>>> up? Julie gets some latitude for being wacky.* But Carol?* I don't
>>> expect military personnel to be wimpy.
>>
>> I did! But it went nowhere. Every time I've been in the hospital, the
>> Dr, just tells me to have someone bring me in food.
>
>You had a smart doctor.

She had an idiot for a doctor or is lying. Hospitals prepare meals
according to the doctor's orders for a particular health issue and
don't want visitors sneaking in food. You're in the hospital for
eating all sorts of crap on a regular basis.

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:28:19 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2020-08-31 7:43 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> If Julie wasn't supposed to be on the "Heart Smart" diet why the heck
>>>> didn't she say "Hey! This is *not* what the doctor ordered"?* As for
>>>> Carol, yes, if they forgot to feed her four times why didn't she speak
>>>> up? Julie gets some latitude for being wacky.* But Carol?* I don't
>>>> expect military personnel to be wimpy.
>>>
>>> I did! But it went nowhere. Every time I've been in the hospital, the
>>> Dr, just tells me to have someone bring me in food.
>>
>> You had a smart doctor.
>
> She had an idiot for a doctor or is lying. Hospitals prepare meals
> according to the doctor's orders for a particular health issue and
> don't want visitors sneaking in food. You're in the hospital for
> eating all sorts of crap on a regular basis.
>

Thar she blows Popeye!

If yoose on a regular diet, they could care less what is brought to
yoose. If yoose on some restricted diet, they have a fit if people
bring yoose something NOT on yoose diet.

Yoose pretty damn dumb.

On Mon, 31 Aug 2020 01:48:59 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> On Sunday, August 30, 2020 at 5:35:34 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> Just have to spew some filth. You must orgasm from it. It just makes
>> you look more pathetic than your target.
>
> But both are true. Would it be spewing filth to mention Benny?

Benny Sanders? No wonder John's at all the rallys.

On 8/30/2020 5:34 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Gary wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
>>>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
>>>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
>>>> cheese.
>>>>
>>> Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
>>>
>>> Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain
>>> loudly to anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor
>>> back in the room and have him/her tell them to change the order?
>>>
>>> Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps
>>> in the presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call
>>> button and asking why haven't I been fed?
>>
>> <sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
>> I would also press the call button and demand food.
>>
>> However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
>> the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> cshenk wrote:
>> I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
>> C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
>> missed
>> 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
>> the
>> one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
>> was
>> released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
>> (which I
>> didn't get).
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> I did press the call button. I didn't get fed even after that.
>
I would expect better of a military hospital serving military personnel.

Jill

On Friday, September 4, 2020 at 3:46:02 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 8/30/2020 5:34 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Gary wrote:
> >
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 8/29/2020 6:05 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> "John Kuthe" > wrote in message
> >>>> ...
> >>>>> For I am a Vegetarian! :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> John Kuthe...
> >>>>
> >>>> Last time I was in the hospital, they put me on the "Heart Smart"
> >>>> diet despite my Dr. telling them not to. I don't have heart
> >>>> problems and I had low sodium. They wouldn't allow me to have any
> >>>> cheese.
> >>>>
> >>> Oh goody! It's the clash of the "heart smart" diets.
> >>>
> >>> Okay, if your doctor told them not to why did you not complain
> >>> loudly to anyone who would listen? How about the get the doctor
> >>> back in the room and have him/her tell them to change the order?
> >>>
> >>> Honest to god, I don't understand why people turn into such wimps
> >>> in the presence of medical personnel. I'd be pressing the call
> >>> button and asking why haven't I been fed?
> >>
> >> <sigh> I agree with you, Jill. If the hospital skipped my meals,
> >> I would also press the call button and demand food.
> >>
> >> However, Julie didn't say that. It was cshenk when she was in
> >> the Navy hospital for a c-section. Different thread
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------------
> >> cshenk wrote:
> >> I remember when I was in the hospital after Charlotte was born by
> >> C-section. They forgot to feed me. No tests involved, just got
> >> missed
> >> 4 times. Twice on the first day then breakfast next day and lunch
> >> the
> >> one after that. Military (taxpayers) got billed for all 4 and
> >> was
> >> released day 5 and they billed tax payers for lunch and dinner
> >> (which I
> >> didn't get).
> >> --------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I did press the call button. I didn't get fed even after that.
> >
> I would expect better of a military hospital serving military personnel.
>
> Jill

If you paid more attention, you'd know better:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Health_Administration_scandal_of_2014>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Army_Medical_Center_neglect_scandal>

Cindy Hamilton