Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> For those of us who are filthy pigs, the entire grill is cleaned once or
> twice a year. In between I just light the fire and let the 700 F heat
> burn the grease off the grates.

lol Please add me to your gang! I do the same.

Taxed and Spent wrote:

> On 9/18/2020 2:49 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:27:28 -0700 (PDT),
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 8:49:39 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Toaster ovens are filthy little *******s to clean, tossed mine
> > > > in the trash long ago... much simpler to brown saw-seege in a
> > > > frypan.
> > > >
> > > My toaster oven is quite clean, thank you very much. And it's not
> > > hard to clean when it does get dirty which is pretty rare.
> > > Cornbread, waffles, etc. don't make a mess.
> >
> > My Delohghi convection oven has a self-cleaning inside finish, but
> > the aluminum pan(s) have managed to get pretty grungy over the past
> > 12 years. Best toaster ever - but they don't make them any more
> > because the $40 ovens win out over the $150 toaster ovens.
> >
> > I don't sweat the polymerized oils on my grungy pans or inside the
> > oven. They have character. And unlike a used BBQ grill, I know that
> > the patina is MY grime, not somebody else's.
> >
> > -sw
> >
>
>
> "MY grime, not somebody else's": words to live by. And life suddenly
> becomes much simpler.
>
> I couldn't have said it better myself.

LOL! Thats not grime, it's patena!

Taxed and Spent wrote:

> On 9/18/2020 2:49 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:27:28 -0700 (PDT),
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, September 18, 2020 at 8:49:39 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Toaster ovens are filthy little *******s to clean, tossed mine
> > > > in the trash long ago... much simpler to brown saw-seege in a
> > > > frypan.
> > > >
> > > My toaster oven is quite clean, thank you very much. And it's not
> > > hard to clean when it does get dirty which is pretty rare.
> > > Cornbread, waffles, etc. don't make a mess.
> >
> > My Delohghi convection oven has a self-cleaning inside finish, but
> > the aluminum pan(s) have managed to get pretty grungy over the past
> > 12 years. Best toaster ever - but they don't make them any more
> > because the $40 ovens win out over the $150 toaster ovens.
> >
> > I don't sweat the polymerized oils on my grungy pans or inside the
> > oven. They have character. And unlike a used BBQ grill, I know that
> > the patina is MY grime, not somebody else's.
> >
> > -sw
> >
>
>
> "MY grime, not somebody else's": words to live by. And life suddenly
> becomes much simpler.
>
> I couldn't have said it better myself.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
> >> >>> one) and get some char on them.
> >> >>
> >> >> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
> >> >
> >> > Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
> >> >
> >> > -sw
> >> >
> >> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
> >
> >Julie,
> >Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
> >not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
>
> You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.

I knew who I was responding to. Jill was giving excuses like
Julie so I called her Julie. She really is "Julie 2." Two
princesses that don't like much of anything.

Jill's list of things she doesn't like is equal to or even
surpasses Julie's dislikes. It's funny if you take the time
to notice.

Sqwertz wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 11:42:13 -0600, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >>jmcquown wrote:
> >>
> >>> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
> >>
> >>Julie,
> >>Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
> >>not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
> >
> > You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>
> I think it may have been third-party sarcasm? I'm not sure. Gary's
> not that smart at conveying emotions.

I like "dry humor" but it seems only Ed is the one that can
pull it off.

On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 08:29:57 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> I've felt free all my life. In two countries. No matter if left or
>> right were in power.
>
>In general, it doesn't matter much which party wins. Often
>the same ol, same ol.

Trump isn't same old, same old. He's much worse. But white trailer
trash love him and apparently you have a lot of those.

Gary wrote:

> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > >jmcquown wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
> > >> >>> one) and get some char on them.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
> > >> >
> > >> > Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
> > >> >
> > >> > -sw
> > >> >
> > >> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
> > >
> > >Julie,
> > >Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
> > >not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
> >
> > You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>
> I knew who I was responding to. Jill was giving excuses like
> Julie so I called her Julie. She really is "Julie 2." Two
> princesses that don't like much of anything.
>
> Jill's list of things she doesn't like is equal to or even
> surpasses Julie's dislikes. It's funny if you take the time
> to notice.


Isn't that why she got banned from "The Club", lol...all those criticisms of their daily menu offerings...

--
Best
Greg

On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:53:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >jmcquown wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
>> >> >>> one) and get some char on them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
>> >> >
>> >> > -sw
>> >> >
>> >> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
>> >
>> >Julie,
>> >Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
>> >not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
>>
>> You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>
>I knew who I was responding to. Jill was giving excuses like
>Julie so I called her Julie. She really is "Julie 2." Two
>princesses that don't like much of anything.
>
>Jill's list of things she doesn't like is equal to or even
>surpasses Julie's dislikes. It's funny if you take the time
>to notice.

Since the advent of the microwave I see no point to the toaster
oven... and fact is toaster ovens are the small appliance most
responsible for house fires.
I cook saw-seege often, at least twice a month and always in my 12"
Farberware pan. I put them up early in the day, ~11AM, and by dinner
time, 6 PM they are perfectly cooked. I use the lowest setting on my
stove's smallest burner. Every time I think about it I turn them. My
cooking philosophy is to cook with the lowest heat, time be damned.
Everything is perfectly cooked, juicy, and no burnt pans. I have no
idea why people got into cooking with the highest heat possible, all I
can think is that everyone is in a big hurry, everyone has become used
to fast food dreck, and instant gratification from drive thru take
outs. I never hear that familys sit down together for liesurely meals
any more... what a fercocktah world.

On 9/19/2020 4:05 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:53:43 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
>>>>>>>> one) and get some char on them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
>>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>> Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
>>>> not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
>>>
>>> You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>>
>> I knew who I was responding to. Jill was giving excuses like
>> Julie so I called her Julie. She really is "Julie 2." Two
>> princesses that don't like much of anything.
>>
>> Jill's list of things she doesn't like is equal to or even
>> surpasses Julie's dislikes. It's funny if you take the time
>> to notice.
>
> Since the advent of the microwave I see no point to the toaster
> oven...


Well that says a lot about you.

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 11:53:26 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> "U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> > >jmcquown wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >> > On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
> > >> >>> one) and get some char on them.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
> > >> >
> > >> > Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
> > >> >
> > >> > -sw
> > >> >
> > >> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
> > >
> > >Julie,
> > >Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
> > >not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
> >
> > You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>
> I knew who I was responding to. Jill was giving excuses like
> Julie so I called her Julie. She really is "Julie 2." Two
> princesses that don't like much of anything.
>
> Jill's list of things she doesn't like is equal to or even
> surpasses Julie's dislikes. It's funny if you take the time
> to notice.

Gary, I don't like Jill, and she doesn't like me, but to put her into a category with a nutcase like Julie just isn't accurate. I'm calling balls and strikes here. Jill tells the truth as she sees it. Julie embellishes.

--Bryan

On 9/18/2020 1:42 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
>>>>>> one) and get some char on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
>>>>
>>>> Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
>>
>> Julie,
>> Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
>> not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
>
> You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
> Anyway, Jill's comments about grilling, cooking, etc. are a lot more
> enjoyable than the constant backbiting, profane and scatological,
> comments that occur here without reason.
> Janet US
>
Thank you, JanetB. Gary seems determined to try to turn my posts
into complaints, brings up Julie and accusing me of something.

I've baked the bratwurst in the oven on foil.

Jill

On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 20:53:09 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/18/2020 1:42 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
>>>>>>> one) and get some char on them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
>>>>>
>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
>>>
>>> Julie,
>>> Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
>>> not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
>>
>> You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>> Anyway, Jill's comments about grilling, cooking, etc. are a lot more
>> enjoyable than the constant backbiting, profane and scatological,
>> comments that occur here without reason.
>> Janet US
>>
>Thank you, JanetB. Gary seems determined to try to turn my posts
>into complaints, brings up Julie and accusing me of something.
>
>I've baked the bratwurst in the oven on foil.
>
>Jill

I was going to suggest the oven.
Janet US

On 9/18/2020 4:04 PM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
>>>>>> one) and get some char on them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
>>>>
>>>> Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>>
>>> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
>>
>> Julie,
>> Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
>> not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
>
> Garish is boozing again, that's Jill, not Julie... or perhaps he's
> lusting for a chance at Julie.
> I don't like to grill outdoors in inclement weather either. Actually
> the only times I light the grill is when we have company, it's not
> worth the effort to clean a grill for two people... we much prefer pan
> fried burgers anyway.
>
There is simply no point (IMHO) in cooking on a charcoal grill when it
is either pouring down rain outside or windy. I have a kitchen for a
reason. Different types of pans and methods of cooking for a reason.

Jill

On 9/19/2020 9:02 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 20:53:09 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Julie,
>>>> Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
>>>> not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
>>>
>>> You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>>> Anyway, Jill's comments about grilling, cooking, etc. are a lot more
>>> enjoyable than the constant backbiting, profane and scatological,
>>> comments that occur here without reason.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Thank you, JanetB. Gary seems determined to try to turn my posts
>> into complaints, brings up Julie and accusing me of something.
>>
>> I've baked the bratwurst in the oven on foil.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I was going to suggest the oven.
> Janet US
>
GTMA. I'd already planned that. I did mention when I first posted
there are always other cooking options. I don't know why some folks
want to question my methods of cooking. If I don't want to cook outside
in windy or rainy conditions I don't have to. It's better that I don't.

Silly suggestions that I should do some grilling in bad weather and keep
bringing up Julie. That would be GARY.

Jill

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 7:05:33 PM UTC-4, Sheldon wrote:

> Since the advent of the microwave I see no point to the toaster
> oven...

Microwaves are incapable of browning.

> and fact is toaster ovens are the small appliance most
> responsible for house fires.

I use my vintage 1989 toaster oven mainly for nachos, toasted
cheese sandwiches, and a couple other (mainly cheese melting)
tasks.

> I cook saw-seege often, at least twice a month and always in my 12"
> Farberware pan. I put them up early in the day, ~11AM, and by dinner
> time, 6 PM they are perfectly cooked. I use the lowest setting on my
> stove's smallest burner. Every time I think about it I turn them. My
> cooking philosophy is to cook with the lowest heat, time be damned.
> Everything is perfectly cooked, juicy, and no burnt pans.

Are they browned at all?

> I have no
> idea why people got into cooking with the highest heat possible, all I
> can think is that everyone is in a big hurry,

I have this place I go every weekday between 8 am and 5 pm. When I
get home I want to get dinner on the table in less than 7 hours.

I rarely cook on the highest heat possible, but when I want to brown
something I crank that mother up.

Cindy Hamilton

jmcquown wrote:
>
> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
> > Anyway, Jill's comments about grilling, cooking, etc. are a lot more
> > enjoyable than the constant backbiting, profane and scatological,
> > comments that occur here without reason.
> > Janet US
> >
> Thank you, JanetB.

LOL!

> Gary seems determined to try to turn my posts
> into complaints, brings up Julie and accusing me of something.

Again I'll say... I only pick on you because you bully
a couple of others here constantly. Just giving you back
a dose of your own medicine.

We can both turn nice. You first.

GM wrote:
>
> Isn't that why she got banned from "The Club", lol...
> all those criticisms of their daily menu offerings...

OK...let's speculate and gossip like she does.

I suspect she still has to buy the 1K worth of food
from the club each year. That was a neighborhood
requirement. Is she special to get out of that?

I suspect she still has to do it but said she got
out of that so people here would quit talking
about it.

Oh...hi Jill!

On 9/20/2020 10:12 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
>>> Anyway, Jill's comments about grilling, cooking, etc. are a lot more
>>> enjoyable than the constant backbiting, profane and scatological,
>>> comments that occur here without reason.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> Thank you, JanetB.
>
> LOL!
>
>> Gary seems determined to try to turn my posts
>> into complaints, brings up Julie and accusing me of something.
>
> Again I'll say... I only pick on you because you bully
> a couple of others here constantly. Just giving you back
> a dose of your own medicine.
>
> We can both turn nice. You first.
>
As if you're such a saint, Gary. I don't bully anybody. Usenet isn't
kindergarten. I post my opinions in replies to what other people post.
RFC is the Chaotic Kitchen, Gary. No one needs you to be their
champion/defender. You seem to see yourself as some sort of
self-appointed moderator. You replied to my post as if you thought
that's what Julie would say just to stir up shit. You're an Instigator.

Jill

On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 7:53:18 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On 9/18/2020 1:42 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:03:02 -0400, Gary > wrote:
> >
> >> jmcquown wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 9/17/2020 10:56 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 15:09:26 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 9/17/2020 1:17 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You can toast them hot as possible in your toaster oven (if you have
> >>>>>> one) and get some char on them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nice. But no, I don't have a toaster oven.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, haul your little butt up to Costco and get one!
> >>>>
> >>>> -sw
> >>>>
> >>> You want me to drive to Savannah to buy a toaster oven?
> >>
> >> Julie,
> >> Yoose could use your grill but you always find an excuse
> >> not to. All year long... too hot, too windy, too wet...
> >
> > You are addressing Julie but it is Jill that wrote that comment.
> > Anyway, Jill's comments about grilling, cooking, etc. are a lot more
> > enjoyable than the constant backbiting, profane and scatological,
> > comments that occur here without reason.
> > Janet US
> >
> Thank you, JanetB. Gary seems determined to try to turn my posts
> into complaints, brings up Julie and accusing me of something.
>
> I've baked the bratwurst in the oven on foil.

They're fine in the oven. The thing about a toaster oven is that you don't heat up your house as much.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Silly suggestions that I should do some grilling in bad weather and keep
> bringing up Julie. That would be GARY.

Yep. That damn annoying GARY
Consider yourself lucky though, Jill.
I've got to live with the guy every day.

jmcquown wrote:
>
> I don't bully anybody.