On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:12:26 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 9/26/2020 5:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:06:25 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/26/2020 2:47 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/26/2020 12:54 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:25:49 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moussaka 9/21. Made with about half each eggplant and zucchini. Used ground turkey in place of lamb or beef. White sauce could have been thicker. Recipe from _The_Food_of_Greece_, but there are of course many similar ones findable on the 'net, e.g. <http://allrecipes.com/recipe/moussaka/>, which I also loosely followed. Comments there were useful too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/eSWduBoejXGETBTX8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Baked Pacific Cod, cheese (sharp cheddar) grits, and green chard from the garden 9/23.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TfTzsmXpxxb2UmTW6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Butternut Squash Pasties 9/24. Made 150% of this recipe:
>>>>>>> <http://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-butternut-squash-sage-a-98771>
>>>>>>> Was very popular with the family. Plus, I think I've gotten pastry down cold (note how nice and flaky it is in the photo). My crimping technique needs work though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFC1uBx7uxa61Z6W6
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finally, Baja Fish Tacos last night 9/25. I was pleased at how light and crunchy the batter turned out (used both baking powder and seltzer and barely mixed it). Cabbage drizzled with lime juice, sour cream and yogurt mixture with lime zest, pepper, and chopped scallions, chopped fresh jalepenos and cilantro and sharp cheddar as optional toppings. Choice of corn or flour tortillas (we all chose corn).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/je1FbRozcFmfWsB76
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All looks wonderful. The butternut squash ones sound like the filling
>>>>>> for tamales.
>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, that doesn't make me think of tamales at all. No cornmeal masa
>>>>> involved.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>> I've had tamales from some places in south western tamale-land that
>>>> were filled with butternut squash. They are a real thing.
>>>> Butternut Squash Tamales
>>>> https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/...recipe-1953327
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>> I don't doubt it. They're probably wonderful! I love butternut squash
>>> in many interations. It's just not something I think about when the
>>> word "tamale" comes to mind. I do think there is a difference between
>>> food on the west coast and food in other areas. That recipe link
>>> includes "3 cups masa harina"; yep if it's a tamale and not a pastie"
>>> made with shortbread crust.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> at the time they were a surprise to me too. I tend to think too
>> narrowly about "Mexican " food.
>> Janet US
>>
>I guess I do, too. I was surprised when a friend of mine came back from
>a trip to somewhere in the middle portion of Mexico and told me about
>all the fresh fish she ate while she was there.
>
>Jill

Same here! Our neighbors go every winter and when I first asked about
food, expecting to hear a lot about beans, tortillas, peppers, etc.,
they told me all about the fish dishes they had.
Janet US

On 9/26/2020 9:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:12:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/2020 5:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:06:25 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9/26/2020 2:47 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:13:29 -0400, jmcquown >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/26/2020 12:54 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:25:49 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Moussaka 9/21. Made with about half each eggplant and zucchini. Used ground turkey in place of lamb or beef. White sauce could have been thicker. Recipe from _The_Food_of_Greece_, but there are of course many similar ones findable on the 'net, e.g. <http://allrecipes.com/recipe/moussaka/>, which I also loosely followed. Comments there were useful too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/eSWduBoejXGETBTX8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Baked Pacific Cod, cheese (sharp cheddar) grits, and green chard from the garden 9/23.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/TfTzsmXpxxb2UmTW6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Butternut Squash Pasties 9/24. Made 150% of this recipe:
>>>>>>>> <http://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-butternut-squash-sage-a-98771>
>>>>>>>> Was very popular with the family. Plus, I think I've gotten pastry down cold (note how nice and flaky it is in the photo). My crimping technique needs work though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFC1uBx7uxa61Z6W6
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Finally, Baja Fish Tacos last night 9/25. I was pleased at how light and crunchy the batter turned out (used both baking powder and seltzer and barely mixed it). Cabbage drizzled with lime juice, sour cream and yogurt mixture with lime zest, pepper, and chopped scallions, chopped fresh jalepenos and cilantro and sharp cheddar as optional toppings. Choice of corn or flour tortillas (we all chose corn).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/je1FbRozcFmfWsB76
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All looks wonderful. The butternut squash ones sound like the filling
>>>>>>> for tamales.
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm, that doesn't make me think of tamales at all. No cornmeal masa
>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> I've had tamales from some places in south western tamale-land that
>>>>> were filled with butternut squash. They are a real thing.
>>>>> Butternut Squash Tamales
>>>>> https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/...recipe-1953327
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>> I don't doubt it. They're probably wonderful! I love butternut squash
>>>> in many interations. It's just not something I think about when the
>>>> word "tamale" comes to mind. I do think there is a difference between
>>>> food on the west coast and food in other areas. That recipe link
>>>> includes "3 cups masa harina"; yep if it's a tamale and not a pastie"
>>>> made with shortbread crust.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> at the time they were a surprise to me too. I tend to think too
>>> narrowly about "Mexican " food.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>> I guess I do, too. I was surprised when a friend of mine came back from
>> a trip to somewhere in the middle portion of Mexico and told me about
>> all the fresh fish she ate while she was there.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Same here! Our neighbors go every winter and when I first asked about
> food, expecting to hear a lot about beans, tortillas, peppers, etc.,
> they told me all about the fish dishes they had.
> Janet US
>
Fish and lots of fresh fruit and vegetables. I don't recall her
mentioning beans or even tortillas, not once.

Jill

jmcquown wrote:

> On 9/26/2020 9:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:12:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 9/26/2020 5:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:06:25 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 9/26/2020 2:47 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:13:29 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/26/2020 12:54 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:25:49 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Moussaka 9/21. Made with about half each eggplant
> > > > > > > > > and zucchini. Used ground turkey in place of lamb or
> > > > > > > > > beef. White sauce could have been thicker. Recipe
> > > > > > > > > from _The_Food_of_Greece_, but there are of course
> > > > > > > > > many similar ones findable on the 'net, e.g.
> > > > > > > > > <http://allrecipes.com/recipe/moussaka/>, which I
> > > > > > > > > also loosely followed. Comments there were useful
> > > > > > > > > too.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/eSWduBoejXGETBTX8
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Baked Pacific Cod, cheese (sharp cheddar) grits, and
> > > > > > > > > green chard from the garden 9/23.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/TfTzsmXpxxb2UmTW6
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Butternut Squash Pasties 9/24. Made 150% of this
> > > > > > > > > recipe:
> > > > > > > > > <http://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-butternut-squash-sage
> > > > > > > > > -a-98771> Was very popular with the family. Plus, I
> > > > > > > > > think I've gotten pastry down cold (note how nice and
> > > > > > > > > flaky it is in the photo). My crimping technique
> > > > > > > > > needs work though.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFC1uBx7uxa61Z6W6
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Finally, Baja Fish Tacos last night 9/25. I was
> > > > > > > > > pleased at how light and crunchy the batter turned
> > > > > > > > > out (used both baking powder and seltzer and barely
> > > > > > > > > mixed it). Cabbage drizzled with lime juice, sour
> > > > > > > > > cream and yogurt mixture with lime zest, pepper, and
> > > > > > > > > chopped scallions, chopped fresh jalepenos and
> > > > > > > > > cilantro and sharp cheddar as optional toppings.
> > > > > > > > > Choice of corn or flour tortillas (we all chose corn).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/je1FbRozcFmfWsB76
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All looks wonderful. The butternut squash ones sound
> > > > > > > > like the filling for tamales.
> > > > > > > > Janet US
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmmm, that doesn't make me think of tamales at all. No
> > > > > > > cornmeal masa involved.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've had tamales from some places in south western
> > > > > > tamale-land that were filled with butternut squash. They
> > > > > > are a real thing. Butternut Squash Tamales
> > > > > >
https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/...recipe-1953327
> > > > > > Janet US
> > > > > >
> > > > > I don't doubt it. They're probably wonderful! I love
> > > > > butternut squash in many interations. It's just not
> > > > > something I think about when the word "tamale" comes to mind.
> > > > > I do think there is a difference between food on the west
> > > > > coast and food in other areas. That recipe link includes "3
> > > > > cups masa harina"; yep if it's a tamale and not a pastie"
> > > > > made with shortbread crust.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > at the time they were a surprise to me too. I tend to think too
> > > > narrowly about "Mexican " food.
> > > > Janet US
> > > >
> > > I guess I do, too. I was surprised when a friend of mine came
> > > back from a trip to somewhere in the middle portion of Mexico and
> > > told me about all the fresh fish she ate while she was there.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Same here! Our neighbors go every winter and when I first asked
> > about food, expecting to hear a lot about beans, tortillas,
> > peppers, etc., they told me all about the fish dishes they had.
> > Janet US
> >
> Fish and lots of fresh fruit and vegetables. I don't recall her
> mentioning beans or even tortillas, not once.
>
> Jill

Mexico has several distinct cuisines. I was told once they see Chili
as American food (at least in some parts of Mexico).

I did a bit of googling and seems they have 7 main ones.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 9/26/2020 9:24 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 18:12:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 9/26/2020 5:56 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 15:06:25 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 9/26/2020 2:47 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:13:29 -0400, jmcquown
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9/26/2020 12:54 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:25:49 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Moussaka 9/21. Made with about half each eggplant
> > > > > > > > > and zucchini. Used ground turkey in place of lamb or
> > > > > > > > > beef. White sauce could have been thicker. Recipe
> > > > > > > > > from _The_Food_of_Greece_, but there are of course
> > > > > > > > > many similar ones findable on the 'net, e.g.
> > > > > > > > > <http://allrecipes.com/recipe/moussaka/>, which I
> > > > > > > > > also loosely followed. Comments there were useful
> > > > > > > > > too.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/eSWduBoejXGETBTX8
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Baked Pacific Cod, cheese (sharp cheddar) grits, and
> > > > > > > > > green chard from the garden 9/23.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/TfTzsmXpxxb2UmTW6
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Butternut Squash Pasties 9/24. Made 150% of this
> > > > > > > > > recipe:
> > > > > > > > > <http://www.thekitchn.com/recipe-butternut-squash-sage
> > > > > > > > > -a-98771> Was very popular with the family. Plus, I
> > > > > > > > > think I've gotten pastry down cold (note how nice and
> > > > > > > > > flaky it is in the photo). My crimping technique
> > > > > > > > > needs work though.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFC1uBx7uxa61Z6W6
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Finally, Baja Fish Tacos last night 9/25. I was
> > > > > > > > > pleased at how light and crunchy the batter turned
> > > > > > > > > out (used both baking powder and seltzer and barely
> > > > > > > > > mixed it). Cabbage drizzled with lime juice, sour
> > > > > > > > > cream and yogurt mixture with lime zest, pepper, and
> > > > > > > > > chopped scallions, chopped fresh jalepenos and
> > > > > > > > > cilantro and sharp cheddar as optional toppings.
> > > > > > > > > Choice of corn or flour tortillas (we all chose corn).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/je1FbRozcFmfWsB76
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > All looks wonderful. The butternut squash ones sound
> > > > > > > > like the filling for tamales.
> > > > > > > > Janet US
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hmmm, that doesn't make me think of tamales at all. No
> > > > > > > cornmeal masa involved.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jill
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've had tamales from some places in south western
> > > > > > tamale-land that were filled with butternut squash. They
> > > > > > are a real thing. Butternut Squash Tamales
> > > > > >
https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/...recipe-1953327
> > > > > > Janet US
> > > > > >
> > > > > I don't doubt it. They're probably wonderful! I love
> > > > > butternut squash in many interations. It's just not
> > > > > something I think about when the word "tamale" comes to mind.
> > > > > I do think there is a difference between food on the west
> > > > > coast and food in other areas. That recipe link includes "3
> > > > > cups masa harina"; yep if it's a tamale and not a pastie"
> > > > > made with shortbread crust.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jill
> > > >
> > > > at the time they were a surprise to me too. I tend to think too
> > > > narrowly about "Mexican " food.
> > > > Janet US
> > > >
> > > I guess I do, too. I was surprised when a friend of mine came
> > > back from a trip to somewhere in the middle portion of Mexico and
> > > told me about all the fresh fish she ate while she was there.
> > >
> > > Jill
> >
> > Same here! Our neighbors go every winter and when I first asked
> > about food, expecting to hear a lot about beans, tortillas,
> > peppers, etc., they told me all about the fish dishes they had.
> > Janet US
> >
> Fish and lots of fresh fruit and vegetables. I don't recall her
> mentioning beans or even tortillas, not once.
>
> Jill